Conversation started Oct 18, 2015 at 11:20.
Oct 18, 2015 11:20
Hi guys, does anyone have a canonical example of a Hausdorff (topological) space that is non-metrizable?
No
Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE EQUIVALENT
Typing in capital letters is considered rude
@AlecTeal That's the other response that I was secretly hoping for :D
(not in the way you typed it, of course, but the mathematical content)
@Danu I would never ever give you misleading information.
@Danu I believe what he has said is false
Oct 18, 2015 11:23
I think so too.
@AlecTeal Please don't intentionally mislead...
Okay
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What does that mean?
It means I started a timer
Chronometer.
@Danu would it help at all if I was like .... I dunno
"I read that in a book by Spivak" or something?
@Danu why did you delete that?
It was essentially spam, so why not?
Oct 18, 2015 11:33
@GaloisintheField howso?
I'm done talking, you are trolling.
@GaloisintheField but I totally read that in a book by Spivak.
Oct 18, 2015 11:49
Aug 4 '12 at 0:49, by Peter Tamaroff
@HenryT.Horton Is there a non-metrizable Hausdorff space?
Aug 4 '12 at 0:55, by Henry T. Horton
@PeterTamaroff Yes, some examples are $\Bbb R$ with basis open sets $[a, b)$, the long line, and $\Bbb R$ with basis open sets of the form $U - \text{countable set}$, where $U$ is open in the standard topology
Aug 4 '12 at 0:57, by Henry T. Horton
@PeterTamaroff The Nagata-Smirnov metrization theorem gives necessary and sufficient conditions for a topology to be metrizable
@Danu Relevant discussion can be found in the transcript
There's like 5 minutes left on the timer.
I'll wait
Why are you timing 30 minutes?
Gives you time to think about the question.
I am working on a different problem...
The "you" wasn't singular @GaloisintheField
2 minutes or so left.
@Danu I didn't lie
@GaloisintheField I didn't lie.
Oct 18, 2015 11:56
If you prove that metric spaces are Hausdorff I will facepalm
In Spivak's Different Geometry volume 1 in the appendix we see that requiring a manifold be Hausdorff and metrisisable are equivalent conditions, There are other such conditions.
So yeah screw you @GaloisintheField - as you can see I didn't lie. Don't accuse me of doing that again.
I wouldn't mislead when it comes to something serious @GaloisintheField - you were really offensive.
I own this textbook and I have it open, it says here that a manifold will be defined to be Hausdorff
@AlecTeal You are 100% trolling and I have you on ignore now
Can I ask a very very noob question ? related to volume
@GaloisintheField I'm not, I can take a picture of the page in the book if you like.
@GaloisintheField no it doesn't, it says the "manifolds we'll deal with" satisfy that, notice it uses metric ones too, not topologies. If you look in the appendix at the back ....
@AngelusMortis you can yes.
Hi everyone!
Does someone have the time to help me at the exercise in differential geometry math.stackexchange.com/questions/1485639/… ?
Oct 18, 2015 12:11
See my comment @user159870
I haven't got the book to hand, and I don't recall the exact definition of closed (other than it returns to where it starts) so if that isn't it. I'll need the definition and 3 minutes.
Oct 18, 2015 12:35
I vaguely recall existence of something like "ExerciseWiki", where goal was to collect various mathematical exercises (and solutions). Do I remember it wrong? Or does anybody remembers seeing such thing (and, ideally, has the link)?
@MartinSleziak I'm working on something like that (I'd put this on the page for closed curve as a caveat) there's proof wikit oo?
Yes I know about proofwiki.
What is link to your wiki? (I am sure I saw it before.)
Thanks! That's not the one I saw before. But still it might be worth looking into.
maths.kisogo.com/index.php?title=D-system I try and do stuff like this. I found 2 definitions, they're listed, with references and proved equiv. The search is now at the point where it is actually worth using though. Which I am quite proud of.
Oct 18, 2015 12:48
@Danu I would either go with some space derived from $\omega_1$ or with some weak or weak* topology. Whatever you feel more comfortable working with. You can find some posts on the main with some examples. I listed a few of them here.
 
Conversation ended Oct 18, 2015 at 12:48.