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Redwolf Programs

May 21, 2021 04:40

For some reason there's a shotgun round next to the printer downstairs. Never bothered to ask why.

bobble

there's a number sequence golf for "shotgun numbers" because of course there is

Unrelated String

more like why not

Razetime

martin ender has the best sequence challenges

hyper-neutrino

@RedwolfPrograms what if the printer starts sending your data to the government

gotta always keep yourself protected

A username

@hyper-neutrino Fortunately it can only send as fast as it can print

Right now it's trying to understand your Javascript.

bobble

May 21, 2021 04:45

is such a feat possible?

hyper-neutrino

"understanding Javascript" is a bit of an oxymoron

A username

Probably not.

Redwolf Programs

I can read JS about as fluently as English when it's written by someone reasonable

bobble

how many reasonable people exist?

Redwolf Programs

hyper-neutrino

May 21, 2021 04:47

it's me, obviously

A username

@RedwolfPrograms You call this reasonable?

You know, there's a whole site for making your code more readable.

Redwolf Programs

That is bad JS

I wrote it in a hurry

Both from a golfing standpoint and a readability standpoint

Very well golfed JS is actually more readable than half-golfed JS

A username

Really?

Bubbler

[citation needed]

Redwolf Programs

Ever seen an Arnauld/xnor/Neil/tsh/... answer, compared to one from like four years prior?

The recursion and stuff is much easier to follow than all the weird for loop tricks

A username

May 21, 2021 04:51

Not for me...

Redwolf Programs

Sounds like you need more practice at getting outgolfed and trying to figure out how on earth it's 20% shorter

A username

I try, but recursion is a pain.

hyper-neutrino

recursive solutions actually intuitively make more sense

Redwolf Programs

Recursion is fun

hyper-neutrino

for me, most of the time

i mean, you define fib as "sum of last two", not "take 1 and 1 and keep replacing the first with the second and the second with the sum N times"

Redwolf Programs

May 21, 2021 04:53

For loops suck when you use them in any way other than i = 0; i < x; i++ or similar

hyper-neutrino

just one is more efficient without TCO, and one is more intuitive

for loops are just compacted while loops tho

so they're alright. i still like recursion better

Bubbler

Recursion is about identifying and exploiting subproblems

A username

I just use recursion as a shorter alternative to loops/

hyper-neutrino

i have a bit of practice finding the appropriate recursive relation a) from doing DP problems and b) because i still don't know how to loop in racket/scheme if there is even a way, so i had to learn how to recurse with accumulators to use TCO properly instead (for my CS courses)

A username

@RedwolfPrograms Btw, if you can show me how this takes input, I have some ideas on how to golf it.

Redwolf Programs

May 21, 2021 04:57

I...I honestly have no clue

A username

When you don't understand your own code

Bubbler

May 21, 2021 05:19

So there was a golf question on Mathematica SE, which would have been closed as unclear here :P

hyper-neutrino

lol, mathematica has a code-golf tag with 8 questions? nice :P

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and of course, the built-in, because mathematica

Razetime

May 21, 2021 05:37

@bobble this has too few answers for a question with a defined recursive formula

we need to get on this quick

A username

May 21, 2021 05:51

What should I do about this?

Bubbler

@Ausername Just wait until enough opinions are gathered (via votes or answers)

A username

It's just being ignored though, aside from several upvotes.

No one has an opinion really, but no one disagrees...

Bubbler

If it accumulates more upvotes then some high-rep user (power user?) will hopefully address it

A username

Ok.

Bubbler

(Properly using CGCC.SE requires patience in multiple places. And you can always ask for more feedback by regularly bringing it to chat)

hyper-neutrino

May 21, 2021 05:59

I keep forgetting about it. I've upvoted it but I typically will wait for more feedback on non-urgent stuff like this

(it hasn't been a week yet; getting stuff done within 2 weeks on SE is already quite impressive, lol)

Razetime

Honestly i think it's about as useful as an xkcd tag

A username

May 21, 2021 06:37

True, but xkcd isn't a language.

hyper-neutrino

I don't think minecraft is either

Adám

A username

Ugh.

hyper-neutrino

makes more sense than JS /s

A username

@hyper-neutrino There are about fifty answers that disagree with you

@hyper-neutrino Hey!

Adám

May 21, 2021 06:40

We should have an "implement the XKCD programming language" challenge.

lyxal

@Adám I mean [1, 2, 3] + 2 => False and [1, 2, 3] + 4 => True kind of make sense. + would be acting as a "does not contain" operator

A username

@Adám Really no.

2+2 = Done?

lyxal

@Ausername [1]

A username

[1]?

hyper-neutrino

oh I thought it'd be called Minecraft Command / Command Block or something like that

lyxal

May 21, 2021 06:41

@Ausername 2 + "2"

hyper-neutrino

then again idk if there have been like schematic submissions

lyxal

@Ausername 2 + 2 has already been calculated, so why do it again?

A username

@hyper-neutrino There are pure redstone as well.

@lyxal Ummm....

hyper-neutrino

in that case, the other point is then that questions to be tagged minecraft aren't about the minecraft language but rather some aspect of the game

Adám

It is all explained.

hyper-neutrino

May 21, 2021 06:42

idk though. gonna wait for more feedback before offering more specific feedback myself if any

Adám

@lyxal No, it basically means 2+=2

Razetime

@Adám isn't that just deadfish

A username

Sure whatever

Adám

@Razetime How so?

Razetime

it uses the commands xkcd right

or is this another language which was specified in an xkcd comic

Adám

May 21, 2021 06:45

That.

pxeger

6 mins ago, by Adám

Razetime

oh well

this is just javascript

hyper-neutrino

i think the tag makes more sense than xkcd. i definitely think xkcd shouldn't be a tag but i'm unsure (leaning towards yes) for minecraft tag

Adám

@Razetime No, but clearly related.

A username

@Razetime How dare you!

Javascript's not that bad.

Bubbler

May 21, 2021 06:46

@Razetime It's more like aviascrjpt

Razetime

@Bubbler js for birds?

I dig it

lyxal

@Ausername yes it actually is

@Razetime what about js for bees? Apioscript?

A username

@lyxal Python's indent sensitive

lyxal

@Ausername javascript destroys the souls of many.

A username

And is useless for expressions

hyper-neutrino

May 21, 2021 06:47

oh no, i have to format my code reasonably

Razetime

@Ausername what?

A username

@lyxal How

lyxal

@Ausername I mean, look at redwolf. Observe the impacts JS has had on him and tell me JS isn't bad. ;p

A username

@Razetime Ok, how do you filter items out of an array (Rarr list) in Python?

lyxal

filter

Razetime

May 21, 2021 06:48

not a fan of python's indentation thing but it's probably the most flexible language ever

A username

@lyxal Redwolf is fine.

lyxal

@Ausername you're just as inflicted by the curse of JS then

Razetime

no fine person likes chromebooks

lyxal

A username

I give up, I'm losing this conversation.

lyxal

May 21, 2021 06:49

you're not losing this conversation, you're A username

A username

Ugh

lyxal

if you're gonna surrender, at least get your facts right

A username

I'm not gonna surrender, I'm A username

I will strategically retreat from TNB.

Bye

lyxal

We did it fam we won.

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