Conversation started Feb 16, 2018 at 19:40.
Feb 16, 2018 19:40
Anyone who voted on this, review your vote please: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/155938/… @AdmBorkBork @EriktheOutgolfer @Arnauld
Not... not sure I can triple tag.
Well, I got the ping at least. Let's see here.
@MagicOctopusUrn no, Ton Hospel made a wrong edit tbf
@EriktheOutgolfer How so? I like the question tbh O_O
Lol I always thought it was Tom :s
@MagicOctopusUrn Yeah but the poster asked a general programming question, which is off-topic. Ton changed it so that it's a challenge, but I think we should not edit programming questions to make them on-topic.
the OP hasn't decided on a winning criterion yet, and Ton edited one in himself, so he changed the meaning of the post, something which is not allowed
unfortunately I see people make such edits way too often
Feb 16, 2018 19:44
It somewhat conflicts with the author's intent
I un-downvoted, but I'm not going to retract my close vote
@AdmBorkBork For input length I, my incorrect approach was computing output size n,p as n=floor(sqrt(I)), p=I/n. That accidentally works when the true size satisfies p=n+1 or p=n. The new test case detects that
I didn't downvote at all to start with
@Mr.Xcoder Oh is that a meta-post discussion?
Feb 16, 2018 19:45
(well I didn't downvote)
Ninja'd
@Mr.Xcoder I'll keep that in my list of rules from now on.
throws flags around
no, I think this is just SE-wide policy for edits
@EriktheOutgolfer Fair enough, same difference.
@MagicOctopusUrn It's not a rule, it's my opinion.
Feb 16, 2018 19:46
@LuisMendo Ah, I see. Yeah, good catch. Thanks!
@Mr.Xcoder Fair enough. I felt like we'd be killing 3 birds with one stone. Helping OP with his problem. Helping OP understand the site. Getting a new fun challenge. But I see the counterpoints too tbh.
Well I like so I'll answer in Jelly / Pyth :P
Woaahhh... if you hover over the bottom black bar of a tag in chat your cursor freaks out.
yep
the SE rule I'm referring to is described as one of the reasons to reject a suggested edit during a review
> This edit deviates from the original intent of the post. Even edits that must make drastic changes should strive to preserve the goals of the post's owner.
@EriktheOutgolfer Agreed, fair enough.
Feb 16, 2018 19:48
@MagicOctopusUrn lol, that's an awesome CSS bug
hm, I won't roll the edit back though
@Doorknob I summon thee for the above ^
looks like there may be someone breaking the rules about a post?
thought I'd poke one of you mods :p
@EriktheOutgolfer I mean, is an edit which makes a post valid worse than an invalid post? Is stealing a challenge from a new user who mistook this for stackoverflow not damaging? How should we handle good challenges posted wrong?
@ThomasWard I do have the power to roll back too, but the reason is that there's already an answer in there and the usual thing we do when that happens is to leave it as-is, no need to make more mess and answer deletions and other stuff ;)
@EriktheOutgolfer see that I can't see your posts didn't show up - see the chaotic evil of laggy chat
Feb 16, 2018 19:52
slow internet huh?
@EriktheOutgolfer more like crappy corporate web gateway
that doesn't always relay traffic backwards ;)
I mean I've even seen newer users type 4 paragraphs for a challenge, and even though the challenge was pretty awesome, it was closed because: "no tags", "unreadable".
and the ping remains...
:P
i'mma just go hide in the corner of the over-heated server room over here...
also, I usually don't roll such edits back, although yes looks like we do need a clear consensus
Feb 16, 2018 19:54
@ThomasWard it looks like the only substantive change is making it , and as far as I know there's no definitive rule about whether that's allowed
@Doorknob was responding to this part:
10 mins ago, by Erik the Outgolfer
the OP hasn't decided on a winning criterion yet, and Ton edited one in himself, so he changed the meaning of the post, something which is not allowed
which Erik so kindly pointed out.
:)
but also
3 mins ago, by Erik the Outgolfer
@ThomasWard I do have the power to roll back too, but the reason is that there's already an answer in there and the usual thing we do when that happens is to leave it as-is, no need to make more mess and answer deletions and other stuff ;)
so, ping can be disregarded for the most part.
as i said, i'mma go curl up in the corner and be silent for a while.
@Mr.Xcoder i am concerned that editing clear programming questions to on-topic golf challenges still gets the OP a somewhat useful answer that incentivizes posting off-topic help questions
@Doorknob so unless you are stating that Erik needs to change how he operates, I'll accept the above of what he stated as the rules :) (Adding a winning condition, though, to what would otherwise be an offtopic question and making something offtopic as not code-golf on topic , sounds like a major breach in the rules somehow... but I'm also exhausted tired so I may be under/over analyzing)
@xnor Yeah that's what I am saying too. I concur.
@xnor one more reason I don't like that, although, contrary to what Thomas said, I don't usually "operate" upon it (yet)
Feb 16, 2018 19:58
@xnor In short: Stop being useful here, people!
@xnor I agree, but there is some humor in giving the OP an obfuscated answer in a language they'll most likely never be able to even install properly.
darn python for being so readable even when golfed!
yeah we need a meta post confirmed
@ThomasWard there's no proper bed at job huh? that's a pretty awful situation
separately, i don't think the question is that interesting, and even if it's not an exact dupe, expressing numbers as sums from a fixed set is pretty well-trodden
so i wouldn't be that excited to "salvage" it from a help question
@EriktheOutgolfer i'm exhausted from 2 hrs sleep
Feb 16, 2018 20:00
@ThomasWard drink your coffee then :)
It probably didn't need to be done, but I made a meta-post on the previous argument discussion: codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/14838/…
 
Conversation ended Feb 16, 2018 at 20:00.