Conversation started Apr 17, 2013 at 18:28.
gnat
gnat
Apr 17, 2013 18:28
@JimmyHoffa well I used to think like you, closing crappy questions with "deserved" NC/NARQ, not bothering about dupes (dupe of crap = crap, why worry). I changed my mind...
...when I noticed that at MSO, they get and close a lot of crap, but there's much less tension around closures compared to Programmers. Upon digging into their practices closer I noticed that they mostly close crap as dupes. the more I thought about it, the more sense it made....
...I mean, yeah one can close NC/NARQ with minimal effort, but that has an implicit overhead of much whining - as opposed to dupes, which work exactly as Karl descibes,
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A: What does it take for a question to be a duplicate?

Karl BielefeldtThat particular question fit multiple close reasons at once, but people can't select multiple reasons. I personally think it wasn't adequately similar to the dup, but duplicate is the most helpful close reason, because it points you to a question where you might get at least part of your questio...

...that's sort of a compromize. One doesn't insist on the question being crapp NC / NARQ, invests some effort into finding a dupe, and in return one gets a "civil peace" - much less whining...
...Of course this works only on simple, low effort questions - finding a dupe for these is typically a low effort as well. Try it yourself
user55340
@gnat I would love to be able to go back and adjust a close vote reason... sometimes I cast a vote (the second one), and then the third one is a dup vote that I agree with but didn't find.
CodeJack
CodeJack
Sir , i can give different cases , have a look
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@gnat yeah, I can see it would get less whining, but would it have as strong of a mitigating effect on the future as a NC/NARQ closure? NC/NARQ amortizes the effort the way I see it
CodeJack
CodeJack
odd : 38147
34187 , 38947 , 38947 , 34987 , 39987 , 38997 , 39999 , 99999
even :497653 , 496753 , 497753 , 499953
gnat
gnat
@JimmyHoffa all reviews have fixed links. The trick is how to find these. One can for example, go to stats page (programmers.stackexchange.com/review/low-quality-posts/stats), then proceed to profile of reviewers, and look through their activity -> Reviews tab. It is public (by design), your tab for example is programmers.stackexchange.com/users/35276/…
user55340
Apr 17, 2013 18:33
@CodeJack When I look at that code, I see a wall of code with two comments (aside from the banner) in the entire nearly 200 lines. The variable names are 't', 'i', 'l', 'x', 'y', and 'mid'. There are 6 levels of indents and no functions other than main(). Why should I look at it more deeply than that?
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@CodeJack we gave you some good advice earlier. I can appreciate that you just want it to work, but until you apply some of the advice we gave you earlier there's nothing further anyone's likely to do for you around here.
Anna Lear
Anna Lear
@Scootaloo @MichaelT Lazers is just an RSS feed pumped into the Bridge. ProgSE here has a question feed, but it's configured to show up as a ticker in the top left rather than in the chatroom itself.
user55340
@AnnaLear that makes sense. Such a feed pump could spam this chat during the "last message 7 hours ago" periods of time.
Anna Lear
Anna Lear
@JimmyHoffa For the purposes of flags and chat access, chat looks at your rep network-wide (so a sum of all your rep on every site) rather than just a specific site. The exceptions to this are chat.SO and chat.meta.SO because those are separate chat servers and they only take into account Stack Overflow and MSO rep, respectively.
gnat
gnat
@JimmyHoffa well just hang for a while at MSO, learn how they close crappy stuff and see how less whining about closures is there. As far as I can tell, this stuff works
 
Conversation ended Apr 17, 2013 at 18:36.