Conversation started Feb 13, 2014 at 8:10.
gnat
gnat
Feb 13, 2014 08:10
@GlenH7 I doubt that demoing anything to Shog would have an effect, his mind seems to be fully locked on a dream of totally removing hot list (to avoid misunderstanding, I wouldn't mind joining this dream, but have zero evidence to justify it)...
as far as I can tell performance cost of suggested feature is acceptable, is it? Also you mentioned that simulations show that impact is small and so are associated risks, correct? (btw minor impact is intentional; for a bit more impact/risk you can consider cut at something like TopAnswerScore/5-2 instead) Wonder why you don't just give it a try, are you afraid of something? Are you afraid that it will succeed and break your dream of completely dropping hot list? Or that it'll fail and I will push for hot list removal myself? — gnat 2 hours ago
...as of now, I think educating wider audience about the issue has better chances to eventually improve things
 
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user41796
Feb 13, 2014 12:20
@gnat Your logic presupposes that there was a valid reason to have the hot questions list to begin with. If you label that as a flawed assumption, it becomes much easier to support getting rid of the list. For example, what would happen to site traffic if we simply did away with it for a period of time?
gnat
gnat
Feb 13, 2014 13:11
@GlenH7 well, entertainment, as suggested by Shog, makes a pretty valid reason to me, especially taking into account that between 2008 and 2011 this feature apparently did no harm. Maybe, I dunno, maybe it was better to not introduce it back then, but we can't rollback the history. Also note that recent attempt to silently remove it during collider rework led to negative reaction from users...
...So, yes, I believe one needs some justification to remove it now. Add that one can argue that issues we observe are caused by bug in the algorithm (that can be fixed instead of removing the list), that's what I mean saying there's zero evidence to justify removal - even though I personally wouldn't cry to see it happen
 
Conversation ended Feb 13, 2014 at 13:11.