Conversation started Oct 16, 2015 at 22:43.
Oct 16, 2015 22:43
@terdon lets say we were to model the population density as nodes, wouldnt the viruses spread like a solution of the shortes path problem?
@TanMath Why would they find the shortest path?
@terdon Viruses cant think
@TanMath Precisely.
but let me give you an example of something so small, yet it acts like it thinks...
heard about quantum bio? @terdon
Yes
Oct 16, 2015 22:46
What about quantum bio in photosynthesis?
How is any of this relevant to how a virus is spread? Remember that viruses are spread by hosts so it will depend on how people move about. There is no probability wavefunction to collapse here.
What I am saying is that the excitons move in the shortest path possible.. This is interesting, because they certainly dont think!
@TanMath Yes, but there are different factors at play here. Water running downhill will also take the shortest path. My point is that none of this is relevant when thinking of how hosts spread viruses. Why would the host take the shortest path?
@terdon Well, why would it matter where the host is? the virus could infect other hosts as well...
Consider 5 cities in a circle. The shortest path will be the circle itself but if the virus is carried by John, the salesman, he could visit city4, then 3, then 1, then 5, then 2. That would be how the virus spread.
Oct 16, 2015 22:50
Sometimes randomness can do amazing things...
@TanMath My point is that when modelling the movement of humans, we can't assume they will take the most efficient path. It will depend on a host of other factors.
@TanMath Absolutely.
But Let us think about it on a more grander scale...
From one site of high population density to another
even then it wouldnt work?
you with me @terdon ?
Not really.
You are suggesting that the virus will spread along the shortest path. It might, no argument there. It might also not.
You'll have to take into account the host density rather than the general population density. How many are infected? How many move? Where do they go?
@terdon Ok... how should I go about researching about this? I am very interested in applying the shortest path problem to science in general, especially biology...
Also.
would the same be applicable for bacteria?
@TanMath Just go to PubMed and search for "shortest path". There are loads of applications. It's just a tool like any other.
Just one that is a pain to compute :)
I gave you the link in my answer:
It sounds like you are interested in Systems Biology. Give that a try.
I'd be happy to chat more but it'll have to be tomorrow. It's 2am here and I just got home. Not really the best time for a detailed scientific discussion.
Good night!
Oct 16, 2015 23:00
@terdon Good night!
 
Conversation ended Oct 16, 2015 at 23:00.