Conversation started Mar 12, 2014 at 22:44.
hasherr
hasherr
Mar 12, 2014 22:44
Command line offers more flexibility
Alex M.
Alex M.
lol
which part of that flexibility are you using now?
hasherr
hasherr
Your mom
Dean Knight
Dean Knight
It actually does. I think the biggest benefit though from CLI version is truly understand how things are happening
Alex M.
Alex M.
right now you're praising Git for a feature that's not useful for you
Dean Knight
Dean Knight
understanding*
Alex M.
Alex M.
Mar 12, 2014 22:45
and one you're likely not going to use for some time
hasherr
hasherr
It's important to learn how things work
Instead of just looking at some copy-paste clipboard of buttons
Dean Knight
Dean Knight
You know though, trying out the GitGui may be a good way to troubleshoot
See if it works
hasherr
hasherr
I try to immerse myself in different techs allt he time.
Alex M.
Alex M.
it's important to have your projects under version control and minimize the effects bugs and changes make
Dean Knight
Dean Knight
If it doesnt, you definitely know it is an account config issue
hasherr
hasherr
Mar 12, 2014 22:47
I try new IDEs and VCS and all these different things and you do nothing but ridicule me for it because I'm not exactly like you.
Alex M.
Alex M.
@hasherr I know the importance of knowing how git acts internally
and I agree with it
what I don't agree with is your drive
right now you're doing learning for the sake of learning
hasherr
hasherr
@AlexM. Okay, cool. Go talk about it somewhere else.
Alex M.
Alex M.
and you're also hypocritical
hasherr
hasherr
@AlexM. Is that a bad thing?
Christian Careaga
Christian Careaga
shots fired
Alex M.
Alex M.
Mar 12, 2014 22:48
why should I talk about it somewhere else?
if you don't like to hear what I say, cover your ears
truth hurts kid
hasherr
hasherr
Because no one is listening to you.
Alex M.
Alex M.
except for you, because you know
you're replying
hasherr
hasherr
Dean is helping me and you're just the white noise that keeps distracting me.
Alex M.
Alex M.
troublesome
Dean Knight
Dean Knight
Boys, boys, boys. There is something to be said for learning for the sake of learning, and learning efficiently on the job.
Alex M.
Alex M.
Mar 12, 2014 22:49
you have the means to stop me but instead you're trying to talk me out of it
perhaps you know what I say is true and inconvenient
hasherr
hasherr
@DeanKnight Where were we?
Alex M.
Alex M.
and want to shut me up personally?
that won't happen
Lasse
Lasse
There's an ignore button
Alex M.
Alex M.
always remember: it's not the editor that makes the programmer
no matter what hardcore shit you're forcing yourself to learn
you'll remain inefficient
hasherr
hasherr
@DeanKnight So I made a new file in the repo and then committed it
NOw, is there anything else I need to do before I push?
Alex M.
Alex M.
Mar 12, 2014 22:51
@DeanKnight learning for the sake of learning can be beneficial from some POVs and detrimental for others
let me drop a quote
Dean Knight
Dean Knight
agreed man.
Alex M.
Alex M.
found it! I think it's a very nice quote
> “Learn thoroughly what you learn;
let your conduct be worthy of what is learnt.”
Verse 391 from Thirukural, Collection of 1330 noble couplets
Thiruvalluvar, poet and philosopher, 31 B.C.
learning for the sake of learning rarely gets you to that 2nd part
knowledge you just know and don't use is knowledge wasted
Dean Knight
Dean Knight
The thing is, you cannot predict when you will use it. So if its on your own time, I dont see the problem with it
Christian Careaga
Christian Careaga
Shouldn't you learn what you need to know, when you need to know it?
Dean Knight
Dean Knight
On company time? No, it isnt useful at that point
Alex M.
Alex M.
Mar 12, 2014 22:55
sure, and what hasherr is learning now isn't even remotely useless
however, the reason he learns it is pointless
Lasse
Lasse
What do you think he is learning now?
Alex M.
Alex M.
his aim is not to learn how to do VC properly, his aim is to "learn how to use Git the hard way"
Dean Knight
Dean Knight
Perhaps. Never know though, may save him time at some point. I converted the place I work at to git all because I randomly took time to learn it in my off time, a year or so before
within a month they had their central server crash, and git made it very easy to restore. So I mean, money was saved there
Was it intentional? Not really. But it proved to be useful
hasherr
hasherr
You don't even know why I'm learning it
Alex M.
Alex M.
I'm just connecting the dots
hasherr
hasherr
Mar 12, 2014 22:57
You're speculating.
Alex M.
Alex M.
days ago you were like "OKAY LINK ME TO VIM. I'M GOING TO LEARN THIS."
hasherr
hasherr
You're connecting imaginary dots.
Alex M.
Alex M.
... why?
hasherr
hasherr
Because I wanted to learn it. Have I given up?
Lasse
Lasse
@AlexM. I am one of those guys who learn by doing, not by reading some philosopher's writings. Which is why I installed Arch Linux as my first desktop linux, I am forced to learn it, because I wanted to learn it. As a hobby.
Dean Knight
Dean Knight
Mar 12, 2014 22:58
^ I cant speak for the past. Have not been in chat for a while haha
Alex M.
Alex M.
@hasherr "I wanted to learn it" <--- seems like learning for the sake of learning to me
Dean Knight
Dean Knight
@Lasse I think this has merit as well. I only got into computers as a hobby. Its that "learning for the sake of learning" that got me into software dev
hasherr
hasherr
What the hell is wrong with learning for the sake of learning
Alex M.
Alex M.
@Lasse okay, cool
Lasse
Lasse
Learning for the sake of learning is not bad thing at all
Dean Knight
Dean Knight
Mar 12, 2014 22:59
So I dont think its completely baseless. As well as I dont think it is a pillar to learn on as a way of doing things
its just part of the process
Alex M.
Alex M.
I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying it's just not exactly... optimal
Christian Careaga
Christian Careaga
I learned how to program because I wanted to program, not because I needed to program
hasherr
hasherr
Optimal? For a 16 year old with a little too much time about optimal?
Alex M.
Alex M.
the time spent to learn things that you're not going to use is time wasted after all
hasherr
hasherr
You think I care about what is optimal?
 
Conversation ended Mar 12, 2014 at 22:59.