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steelersquirrel

Mar 3, 2017 16:55

@Catija OMG. Guess what? My friend is pregnant again after just having a baby like 5 months ago!

Catija

Some one needs to teach her where babies come from...

:P

steelersquirrel

I know, right? I told her to be careful because she's breast feeding...which I was always told makes you get pregnant easier.

Pro tip: Do NOT drink the kool-aid at her house ;)

Catija

HA HA HA

steelersquirrel

:P

@NapoleonWilson Oh, God. You're using big words again and confusing me ;)

Catija

Actually, the problem with breastfeeding is that it actually does often make you less able to get pregnant... if not completely so (assuming you've not had your period start)... it's just that it depends on the person, so you can't trust it, really... so I think that "easier to get pregnant while breastfeeding" is true to an extent because people assume that it's not possible to get pregnant while breastfeeding, which isn't true.

... so they have sex without taking precautions and then get pregnant....

steelersquirrel

Mar 3, 2017 17:01

Aha! Well, that makes sense.

Can you even take birth control while you're breast feeding?

@MovieReel OMFG! A Henry VIII movie!!! No way!!

A J

@steelersquirrel ok. I take 'em a lot. My father used to sell them.

steelersquirrel

Oh, cool!

A J

Mar 3, 2017 17:17

@Catija There is always an advertisement from government on TV that asks to maintain 3 years gap between two children.

Catija

@steelersquirrel Not sure. Condoms are fine, though.

steelersquirrel

@AJ Really? Why? What does a 3 year gap do?

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Q: Identify a Horror movie

A saw this movie long long ago... A ghost from small wooden box enters into the body of small girl. Her father comes to know there is ghost into his child. Then he go to church to ask help from the priest, but they refused to help him because they afraid about that ghost. But one priest accept...

Catija

@steelersquirrel Reduces the number of babies you have.

If you have to wait three years, you have only two babies instead of four. :P

user132126

Statistically speaking, that is.

steelersquirrel

Mar 3, 2017 17:19

@Catija Yeah. The one perk about being married and/or in a plotonic relationship is that you don't have to use condoms anymore ;)

user132126

As far as extended breastfeeding goes, though, I was actually reading literature last semester that was counter to what you'd expect, and that extended breastfeeding didn't actually lead to reduced fertility rates.

user132126

But possibly the opposite.

steelersquirrel

Some women are just more fertile than others, I guess. I don't know.

user132126

Wait, no, I'm remembering that wrong.

user132126

It was related to education levels.

steelersquirrel

Mar 3, 2017 17:24

Women who are more or less educated are more prone to becoming pregnant?

user132126

Higher educational attainment was leading to X results, decreasing fertility, but leading to decreasing breastfeeding duration leading to increased fertility, so measuring the true effect was difficult

Riker

@steelersquirrel wot

user132126

@steelersquirrel Definitely.

steelersquirrel

@CreationEdge How so?

user132126

Studying social aspects related to fertility is an entire field/discipline

user132126

Mar 3, 2017 17:26

Best I've done is a couple B-grade undergrad research papers on the topic ;)

steelersquirrel

Hmmmm...interesting.

user132126

It's not about your biological capability.

A J

@steelersquirrel I don't know. Maybe this is an initiative for controlling population.

user132126

It's about the socioeconomic tradeoff.

user132126

Educated household members are more economically valuable in the traditional monetary sense.

user132126

Mar 3, 2017 17:28

So, to have them be unable to earn traditional income for a period of time due to pregnancy, labor, child-care, etc., because an economic cost.

A J

Many people here now only have one or two child/children

user132126

The higher the level of educational attainment, the higher that economic cost.

user132126

@AJ Where's "here" for you?

steelersquirrel

So, how do you explain all of the people who get pregnant that aren't able to support their own child and they continue to keep getting pregnant? Maybe I am not understanding what you're saying.

user132126

Are you talking developing countries or US or what?

steelersquirrel

Mar 3, 2017 17:31

I guess that I am just talking about the U.S.

user132126

In the US it's a different set of influences that I haven't really studied that much, but the average household size in the USA is 2.53 so you're talking pretty unusual cases.

A J

Economy and time are main reasons why have one or two children

steelersquirrel

I thought that we had a huge problem here with teen pregnancies and lower economic classes of people who get pregnant and keep getting pregnant. People who are on food stamps and/or welfare.

user132126

Teen pregnancies have been on the decline for a number of years, IIRC.

Catija

My understanding was that teen pregnancies are on the decline... well, until recently.

user132126

Mar 3, 2017 17:35

cdc.gov/teenpregnancy/about

steelersquirrel

Well, the U.S. glamorizes teen pregnancy with horrible reality shows and such.

user132126

@steelersquirrel The average household size of welfare recipients is on par with the average household size of the entire US.

A J

We used to have only teen pregnancies cases when someone gets married earlier than legal age.

user132126

Lower, generally.

user132126

Food stamps, 2013:

A J

Mar 3, 2017 17:37

But it's now on decline last few years.

user132126

> Most SNAP households (75 percent) included a child (under age 18), an elderly individual (age 60 and over), or a disabled nonelderly individual. The average SNAP household received a monthly benefit of $271, had gross monthly income of $758, net monthly income of $344, and was entitled to a total deduction of $522 per month. 17,18 The average household size was 2.1 people.

steelersquirrel

@CreationEdge Oh, okay. I don't really know.

user132126

The government publishes highly detailed information on welfare and food stamp breakdowns, by amounts and demographics, just FYI.

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A J

I never really read these statistics except when published in newspaper.

user132126

Mar 3, 2017 17:40

Primary recipients have always traditionally been households with kids and elderly, but there's not a trend of households with part-time, college-educated parents that can't find better employment in this economy being on there.

steelersquirrel

@CreationEdge Ahhh...okay. I honestly never really had any desire or interest in any of that information, so I have never paid any attention to it.

user132126

Well, unfortunately comments like your earlier one easily cast aspersions on a class of people. I just wanted to blast out some facts in case any passerby saw it.

user132126

I know it wasn't your intent, but it's easy for transcript reads to get taken out of context.

user132126

blaaaaaaaaaah, didn't mean to be boring... it's just that they present the info in tables and spreadsheets and I can't help myself.

A J

@CreationEdge India

steelersquirrel

Mar 3, 2017 17:49

@CreationEdge I wasn't casting aspersions on any class of people. My comment came from experience in seeing several pregnant women with 1-2 kids running around them every few weeks when I go to the DHS office. They are all there awaiting their food stamps and/or welfare. It's something that I see with my own eyes every few weeks. I don't understand how that casts an aspersion on a class of people. I'm sorry if it looked that way to anyone.

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user132126

They way that you just described them now cast aspersions.

user132126

Kids running around, all have to be waiting for their food stamps or welfare, no other purpose but hand outs.

user132126

Even though those benefits are distributed electronically and so in-person appointments are for applications or interviews to apply for such benefits or any number of reasons.

Riker

> steelersquirrel: top 0.40% this quarter

congrats @steelersquirrel, that's pretty darn good

user132126

Also notice that the blame there is being placed on the women, who happen to be present and pregnant, and not the fathers of the children.

user132126

Mar 3, 2017 17:55

Intentional or not, there's a lot of very typical judgment wrapped up in that small space and it's the type of stuff I've had to deal with on a very regular basis in my life. I don't mean it to sound like an accusation, but to maybe show you another point of view.

steelersquirrel

How is that? I'm not saying anything negative about them. It's a simple fact. They are there for their food stamps and welfare. They have to go into DHS to update their information and to have interviews with their case managers. That's why they are there. I know that's why they are there because they are all in the office that is specifically for food stamps and welfare. I am always there because I am friends with several of the case managers who always say "sorry, we are swamped with

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Case loads today"

user132126

So they're their for interviews and to update their information, not to get their benefits.

steelersquirrel

OMG. I'm not judging anyone. I devote 98% of my free time to those who cannot care for themselves and I just got done being up for over 24 hours doing so. So, I am going to sleep.

Riker

night!

steelersquirrel

@CreationEdge Yeah...for their benefits! It's required to do so.

A J

Mar 3, 2017 17:58

@Riker night

Riker

not me

> So, I am going to sleep.

night @steelersquirrel!

user132126

Saying it one way is a loaded statement reflecting the verbiage used by anti-welfare pundits in their accusations against "lazy" welfare recipients, and the other is an accurate statement regarding how the people are actually using their time, without the subtext.

steelersquirrel

@CreationEdge I never called anyone lazy nor did I bash anyone about being on benefits. I stated a fact that I see with my own eyes. Yes...there are pregnant women who are on foodstamps and welfare. It's a fact. I don't understand how I made a "loaded" statement when I stated a fact. Not once did I cast any judgments on any of them, so I would really appreciate you not putting words in my mouth and assuming that I am judging anyone.

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A group of teenagers arrives to an old mansion and one of them takes a shower (why not?). After, we only see the shower full of blood and when it goes through the drain, only the boy's eyes are on the floor. Do you remember this horror movie? I think is from the 80's but I saw this a long ago whe...

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Napoleon Wilson

Mar 3, 2017 18:17

@steelersquirrel I think he's saying that more educated means less children, not the other way around. At least that's what makes sense and correlates with my personal experience.

steelersquirrel

I have no idea what he was saying anymore. I'm over this conversation after being accused of judging those who are less fortunate. I'm going to sleep.

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