Conversation started Apr 11, 2013 at 19:12.
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Apr 11, 2013 19:12
WELCOME TO PROJECT UPDATE THURSDAY
Hah!
OK. I re-sided a house in last two months!
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there its pinned and everything
I have pictures. :D
@Aaron I think you need special equipment to take care of the coolant. I wouldn't attempt it myself.
Quick brief: I live in a 1980-built 1600 square foot ranch style house with brick veneer in front and what used to be T-111 siding on the back and gables of the house.
When the house was built, the exterior cladding was tar paper over the framing and then T-111. In the past thirty-three years, the T-111 rotted and so did the tar paper.
So you get issues with water and bug intrusion and a lot of issues with air sealing, because tar paper doesn't do much to stop air from exiting the structure.
On top of that, we replaced a lot of the windows because the wind would blow and curtains inside would move.
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Apr 11, 2013 19:15
@KarlKatzke this is sounding unfortunately familiar to me
We selected James Hardi siding and some simple low-cost vinyl window units for the windows.
@JNK Heh. Well, the fix is relatively simple and cheap, if a bit labor intensive.
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@KarlKatzke how much did just the siding run you (ballpark)?
I have cedar shingles
@JNK Sheathing at $7 per 4x8 sheet, Siding at $25 per 4x8 sheet. Labor: 24 bottles of Shiner.
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oh that's not terrible
Ballpark, about $2000, or $2500 accounting for the material my fiancee mis-cut :-P
My wastage factor was kind of high. But the help was attractive.
Apr 11, 2013 19:17
@KarlKatzke pic? (of the help, not the siding)
Here's a picture of the help AND the siding! dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/204826/Siding/…
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how long did it take?
Note that to help us keep everything lined up, we used 2x4s along the bottom, screwed into the brick with TapCons.
a woman not afraid of getting on the ladder. can she write code to? (ok, i'm done)
@JNK The gables took a weekend each, but it should be noted that I fell on my head a few months ago and can only work for about four hours at a time.
@lsiunsuex She's a civil engineer, and no, you can't have her. But she's scared to death of the ladder.
Apr 11, 2013 19:19
:(
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I think siding is in my mid-future for next 3 or 4 years
Getting the old siding off was actually the hardest part. Since it was so rotten, we had to actually pry the nails out, and then it just fell off.
That's on top of the carport, which is the surface I'm standing on.
The only really difficult side of the house was this one, where the gable is almost 8 feet tall at the peak, and it's 10-12 feet off the ground.
That's where the beer came in; we had to get a lot of help from friends.
Cause Beer and Ladders go so well together.
Beer comes after ladders.
Celebratory "we survived" beer
Side note: I would NOT use the Hardi trim again, and actually, stopped using it halfway through the project.
I would stick with natural cedar trim.
Another thing that's worth noting is that if you select a contractor grade paint, note that it's meant for spray application; if you roll it on, you will need something to cut it a little bit so that it flows without bubbling, like flowtrol.
Here's the garage all painted:
That looks pretty good!
Apr 11, 2013 19:24
looks good dude
Thanks!
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yeah nice
I've got the drip cap up on it now and hope to paint the gutters this weekend, Dad'll help me rehang them next weekend when he's in town.
Here's the triple gable over the kitchen:
And that really big gable...
pella thermastar windows ?
(think thats the logo)
There's three Pella thermastar windows ... the rest are Burris Tectview
I didn't like how the Pellas installed and they made them the wrong way a few times because the people at Lowe's are retards.
Apr 11, 2013 19:26
we've been using those also - double hung new construction - their nice - we like them alot - < $170 each @ lowes
Yeah, I found a better deal through a local vendor.
And got better construction out of the deal.
(better window frame construction... the vinyl channel is more durable.)
Ok, so I'm pretty much done talking ... I have a floor guy coming in a few minutes so I might have to run away.
the ones at lowes were fine for us because we've been gutting the rooms anyways so we were able to reframe them in
my only project is helping dad redo the tile backsplash in the kitchen - (pictures i posted this morning) new countertops should be in by now so just need to repair the walls and start fresh tonight
I went into Lowe's and gave them a rough opening measurement, and they were three inches smaller than the rough opening and had the weep holes on the wrong orientation. I was NOT happy.
Turns out that at two or three places in the production process, they "shrink" the measurement that the customer gives them to "make sure" they'll fit.
hmm - ours have worked out fine so far - but we took them off the shelf, not custom (off the shelf fit our openings to with-in 1 inch)
I guess they assumed "rough" meant "approximate"
Apr 11, 2013 19:29
Yeah, mine were custom windows.
@ChrisCudmore I'm not sure that they would understand if you told them "approximate" -- that word has too many letters, and ain't nobody got time for that.
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I'm digging my wife a bigass garden by hand but don't know if it qualifies for PUT
Connecticut backyards have an ungodly number of rocks
Rules are more lax during PUT.
While I wait for the flooring guy... there's another friend I've been helping because his attic hatch fell out of the ceiling. It was only held in by 16 gauge finish nails.
@JNK They do; where in CT?
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I'm in Sandy Hook, near Danbury
What kind of flooring?
Apr 11, 2013 19:35
@ChrisCudmore Thinking of putting tile in most of the house. There's... issues. I'm seeing if it'd be more cost effective to let someone solve those issues for me.
@JNK I'm sorry. I'm glad you home school. :( I went to high school in Avon.
Aaah.... "ISSUES"... I like to leave "ISSUES" to professionals.
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@KarlKatzke Gotcha. Kids are too young for school yet (1 and 3 yo)
@JNK Sorry, I crossed the streams with conversations between you and a friend who lives near you and homeschools instead of sending kids to school.
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That's a portion of the largest of my rock pile
@JNK And you wonder why there's so many fieldstone rock fences and chimneys...
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Apr 11, 2013 19:37
The bigass one on the right is about 4 feet long and weighs probably 300 lbs
@KarlKatzke no it makes sense now
I had to build a fulcrum and lever and wedge it up since my 3 yo wasn't a ton of help lifting it
he did hit it with plastic shovel a lot which made a difference
Hah. My parents told me I was a big help that way too. I mean, if hitting it repeatedly with a shovel works in Minecraft...
Apr 11, 2013 19:51
Ok, floor guy isn't here yet, it was my mechanic coming to take a look at the truck's clutch. Here's the pictures of the shower I was working on ...
whoops.
Well, tilt your heads to the left, or click on it; I'm uploading a fixed copy.
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nice!
It's honed travertine with a glass and marble accent and a marble dot floor
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you've been busy
Those 2.5x5 tiles are a PAIN IN THE ARSE
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you doing that all yourself too?
Apr 11, 2013 19:53
Yeah, we did the whole project our selves. I've talked about it in here.
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<--- newish to PUT
how long has the shower taken you?
Project has been ongoing a year but that's only because we keep traveling for work at incompatible times.
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If I could do something like that my wife would love it. We have a small master bath with a shower stall
Here's the whole thread: texags.com/main/…
Oh, I guess he did pay someone to do the plumbing.
And the drywall
I did the electrical.
The fascinating thing that we found with the floor though is that he has moisture issues through the concrete. That's why self-leveling cement didn't work.
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that is my exact master bath
just different style
layout looks identical
Apr 11, 2013 19:58
Well, keep scrolling... it gets good about 90% of the way down the first page.
There's lots of pictures because he didn't really know what he was doing and needed opinions on everything. It was his first renovation project.
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gotcha
So you'll note that he destroyed the bathroom in like march of 2011... we tiled the shower starting march of 2012 ... and then the project got put on hold again and we didn't work on it again until march of 2013.
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yikes
knowing my wife and how I have done some other projects, this would become my life until I finished it
esp. since its "her" bathroom
hehehehe. Yep.
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I share the guest bath in the hallway with the two kids (I call it the Man Bathroom)
Apr 11, 2013 20:01
I have another friend who thought he could do the same thing ... their master bath has been empty for that long after I ran into Serious Electrical Issues. At least we've made progress with THIS project.
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that's a really thorough reno it looks like though
It's a down to the studs and beyond into the plumbing.
@KarlKatzke Sorry, was afk for lunch. Anyone can do the bookmarks for PUT. I'll write a howto in a meta post later.
@NiallC. Thanks!
btw, you see where I physically got involved with this shower reno halfway down the second page on 8/11. I'm "superspeck"
@JNK I forgot to post this. This is what the installation of the siding looked like along the ground; but we did this part last year.
That's the new insulation (replacing R-9 with R-13), sheathing, and new construction windows.
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@KarlKatzke nice. You're in TX right?
Apr 11, 2013 20:12
@JNK Yes sir. This house is in College Station.
Here's it almost finished...
Dogs wondering what the !@#$ is going on out there...
$2300 for a new 2-ton compressor
le yipes
Yuck. That's one thing I haven't replaced... serviced yes, replaced no
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how much for a whole new AC unit?
I have an Amana system that was installed new in 1996 and it has been rock solid.
@JNK well, what do you mean by 'unit' ?
I mean the box outside
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Apr 11, 2013 20:25
nvm that is what I'm referring to :P
AC is kind of a necessity in DC too
well, that was one quote from a place, but now the place I used to have a service contract on the HVAC with is coming out for a repair call
so I may get lucky
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fingers crossed
coolant is crazy expensive now too
I just had to have mine recharged last year and it was over $100
and so what's the deal with the ozone-destroying freon?
Off topic: Look at the front sight on the M-16/AR-15
I F'ing KNEW IT! Cops don't aim!!!
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R22
Apr 11, 2013 20:32
so does it make sense to buy a new R-22 compressor if R-22 is going away?
@ChrisCudmore um, yeah, sorry, got side tracked, a retroactive welcome to PUT to all! :)
 
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Apr 11, 2013 21:44
Thanks for joining us for this week's Project Update Thursday
 
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