Project Update Thursday - 2013/02/21 – Conversation in Home Improvement

BMitch

Feb 21, 2013 19:59

Welcome to Project Update Thursday

My work here is done. drops the mike, walks off stage

lsiunsuex

i learned that one of my doors has a kerf yesterday and the proper rubber molding i needed to insult it

Chris Cudmore

I hope you insulted it badly.

Making fun of its mother usually works.

lsiunsuex

crap - i get it now

oops

wax eagle

@lsiunsuex I can fix if you'd like

lsiunsuex

if it appeases the grammer nazi's - so be it

Chris Cudmore

Feb 21, 2013 20:06

Don't fix it. Then it makes me look stupid.

wax eagle

fairy nuff, I will not abuse my modship today

Chris Cudmore

That's not a grammar error.

Looks to me to be an autocorrect error

lsiunsuex

grammer, spelling - whats the difference - at the end of the day, their all descriptors for man made characters that when combined convey a message or meaning

Chris Cudmore

And your meaning was "I'm angry at my door. I shall mock it relentlessly."

Generally, I prefer cursing until the kids run and hide.

lsiunsuex

but the first 3/4 of the sentence implied that i was using rubber molding so in the context, it could be assumed that i ment insulating, not insulting - why would you want to insult a door with a kerf? what did it ever do to you? huh? HUH ?

The Evil Greebo

Feb 21, 2013 20:10

@lsiunsuex Oh kerf you

Chris Cudmore

Actually, I thought you mean "install"

lsiunsuex

:(

next thing you know, people will complain about why programmers don't use proper sentences as variable names because using concocted words is improper

The Evil Greebo

bool myLifeIsTotallyPointless = false;

myLifeIsTotallyPointless = testValueOfMyLife();

Chris Cudmore

Nah... There's something to be said for terseness.

But Perl and their "$_" is just carrying it too far.

The Evil Greebo

if(myLifeIsTotallyPointless){iShouldCommitSuicideBecauseNobodyHasAnyValueForMe()‌}else{yayI'mSignificant();}

yeah reading that would be pretty tedious

and depressing

@ChrisCudmore same for jquery, the bastards and their capitalist dollar signs

lsiunsuex

Feb 21, 2013 20:15

@TheEvilGreebo + nightmare for the code completion algorithm

Chris Cudmore

Frankly, I can manage +=- () and basic punctuation. After that, I have to peak.

And don't get me started on hand coding html type languages. Don't put your main symbol on a shifted key.

lsiunsuex

same could be said of most c based languages = { }

The Evil Greebo

It's a bit backwards, when you think about it

if C/C++/C#/Java used [] instead of {} then their decorators could use {} instead of []

and decorators are used so much less it would make typing easier...

Chris Cudmore

Or, I could just learn to type.

lsiunsuex

or *sql using ' for field encapsulation - because no one writes text with ' s in it - got it!

Chris Cudmore

Feb 21, 2013 20:22

@lsiunsuex Yeah, that's a nasty one.

Or sql in general.

lsiunsuex

ment to imply all sql with the preceding * - like people write *nix to assume all types of unix / linux

Chris Cudmore

Rule #1 in technology design: Make the common easy.

BMitch

Anyone see the humorous comments post that was closed on SO (or was it programmers.SE)?

// Dear maintainer:
//
// Once you are done trying to 'optimize' this routine,
// and have realized what a terrible mistake that was,
// please increment the following counter as a warning
// to the next guy:
//
// total_hours_wasted_here = 42

The Evil Greebo

funny

BMitch

#define TRUE FALSE //Happy debugging suckers

The Evil Greebo

Feb 21, 2013 20:24

@lsiunsuex I don't understand your complaint. It's totally natural to write three single apostrophes in a row ;)

BMitch

/////////////////////////////////////// this is a well commented line

The Evil Greebo

@BMitch /* this line is better */

Chris Cudmore

I love microsofts @"Stuff you'd normally escape goes here"

The Evil Greebo

/***********************************\
| This is the best format for comments, ever. |
\***********************************/

Chris Cudmore

Means you can avoid escaping anything but the " character.

BMitch

Feb 21, 2013 20:26

Found it:

362

Q: What is the best comment in source code you have ever encountered?

What is the best comment in source code you have ever encountered?

Tester101

Dang! Am I in the wrong place? This is PUT, right?

Chris Cudmore

I'm a
/***********
*
*
***********/
man myself

The Evil Greebo

Ewww, that's all lopsided!

("That's what she said")

BMitch

@Tester101 Did you do anything PUT related this week?

lsiunsuex

i like @ChrisCudmore 's format - i usually put a blank line above and below the comment though

Chris Cudmore

Feb 21, 2013 20:29

It's 2013. Doing ascii art was so 1987

BMitch

// <- blank line here
/** function name
* bla bla bla
*/
function ...

Chris Cudmore

ASCII ART: How we downloaded porn in the 80s

Tester101

Welcome to Project Update Thursday: Where programmers discuss comments.

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Chris Cudmore

I bought some cutlery sorters for my tool drawer at the dollar store.

lsiunsuex

we bought bad breath treats for our black cat

Chris Cudmore

Feb 21, 2013 20:31

They help me keep my Robertsons away from the Phillips.

BMitch

Anyone have opinions on the smartkey rekeyable locks? amazon.com/Kwikset-992J-15-SMT-CP/dp/B004EPYSH8/…

Chris Cudmore

I'm a luddite. I don't trust technology to work reliably.

I'm still on POTS because I don't trust VOIP to actually work when I need it to.

lsiunsuex

call dell support located in India with telephony services provided by VoIP = fail

BMitch

I've got an external battery pack for my cell phone now, when the battery backup for my cable modem/router/voip dies, my cell will last for days and I can drive somewhere to recharge for another few days if there's an extended outage.

lsiunsuex

@BMitch or just get a car 12volt charger?

BMitch

Feb 21, 2013 20:37

@lsiunsuex I've got several car chargers, but I don't want to run my car or drain my car battery in an emergency if I can avoid it. But I've done it in the past.

lsiunsuex

lsiunsuex

Feb 21, 2013 20:53

should get rep for killing a chatroom

The Evil Greebo

thats very funny actually :)

BMitch

Similar theme:

Tester101

What's the cheapest most secure way to share photos and videos?

The Evil Greebo

@BMitch like

BMitch

@Tester101 usps?

Tester101

Feb 21, 2013 20:57

@BMitch Stamps are expensive.

lsiunsuex

@Tester101 dropbox.com

BMitch

but you get amazing bandwidth, as long as latency isn't an issue.

Tester101

Is dropbox safe?

Niall C.

@BMitch I have that style on my back door. I installed it about a year ago and have no complaints so far. I've got these on my front door and I'm not so happy; the mechanism tends to stick making me think it'll break soon

lsiunsuex

dropbox is secure and as long as you keep the folder private and share it with select people it is

or a private account on youtube.com - but it only does video obviously

found this yesterday - its new i think - copy.com/home - 5gb of free storage as apposed to dropbox.com's 2gb of free storage - same deal - encrypted, can share and has os x and windows apps

BMitch

Feb 21, 2013 21:02

@NiallC. my neighbor complained that his only works with a spare key now, so I'm guessing it doesn't hurt to rekey it from time to time. But if you have to do that on a lock, then you may just want a standard lock unless you need the ability to easily rekey it.

Tester101

@lsiunsuex Why not just use Drive

Since I already have a gmail account?

lsiunsuex

that too - but same as anything else - i've been on dropbox for so long why move

Tester101

When I share a link, can anybody with the link see the file?

lsiunsuex

sure

Tester101

So if somebody intercepts, or guesses the link address, they can view my files?

lsiunsuex

Feb 21, 2013 21:05

well, i should say, i dont use gdrive

Niall C.

It's actually the lever on my front door that sticks, not the lock. Haven't had to re-key mine yet.

lsiunsuex

with dropbox - only people's email address you grant access to can see it

can u share photos on gdrive?

Niall C.

I heard that the Schlage rekeyable locks are less reliable than Kwikset.

Tester101

@lsiunsuex I think

lsiunsuex

o o, gdrive has 5gb space also

hmm

Tester101

Feb 21, 2013 21:09

gdrive gives you share options.

lsiunsuex

so the same as dropbox

i'd think they'd all be the same by now - permission wise

BMitch

@NiallC. ok, that helps since my doors are both the deadbolt and door knob style, no levers.

Aaron

does gdrive make a pseudo folder on your windows pc?

or rather, can it?

Chris Cudmore

YEs.

Tester101

@Aaron yes

Chris Cudmore

Feb 21, 2013 21:12

And then there's Microsoft's SkyDrive.

I depends on who you want to trust.

Tester101

gdrive seems to default to "Private" while DropBox does not.

Dropbox doesn't seem to give you a way to make links private. You share a link, and anybody with the link can see the file.

lsiunsuex

on dropbox you invite people via email

or you can anyways - had that happen the other night - shared a folder with my boss but i sent it to the wrong email address

so he accepted the invite but logged in with a different acct

Tester101

You can invite people via email.

I just shared a dropbox link, and can view it with no problem from anywhere as long as I have the link.

When sharing a link from gdrive, it defaults to private, and lets me change it easily.

lsiunsuex

danielodio.com/im-betting-on-elon?

Aaron

Feb 21, 2013 21:29

It should spell out for those of us that aren't familiar with every detail of Tesla, who Elon is

BMitch

Feb 21, 2013 22:00

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