Project Update Thursday - 2012/12/06 – Conversation in Home Improvement

BMitch

Dec 6, 2012 19:59

Welcome to Project Update Thursday

My own projects this week included snaking out a slow drain and the realization that I have no idea of how to measure bolt/nut sizes.

lsiunsuex

@BMitch drain clogged or ?

BMitch

@lsiunsuex Just slow, but after hitting it was a snake it flies like new

lsiunsuex

cool

BMitch

I debated disassembling the trap, but that had two downsides:

1. I would have needed to clean out under my sink and dealt with some messy junk directly

2. I wouldn't have gotten a new tool in the process

New tools almost always win a decision making process

lsiunsuex

true

BMitch

Dec 6, 2012 20:04

And for anyone keeping score, it's Chain saw: 1, Tree: 0, BMitch: no permanent injuries.

I'm also the proud new owner of a leaf blower, I can suck and blow!

lsiunsuex

nice

BMitch

The neighbor's cat was less impressed. :)

That's all I've got, take it away @lsiunsuex

// drops mic, walks off stage

lsiunsuex

tonight, gonna finish up the network in the new office - just need to put an end on the line to the room in the basement - i probably should insulate the room's ceiling in the attic now that its nice and cold outside - i'm sure i'm loosing a lot of heat

wax eagle

I bought a compressor...but it's for an auto repair

lsiunsuex

thats about it for me - just need to sand the plaster on the outlet i retro'd in and paint the the repaired wall - no biggy

getting close to christmas == tie up loose ends before the new year so i can start fresh and clean

BMitch

Dec 6, 2012 20:09

I've got to rerun my network wires at some point to fix various issues and let me get up to gigabit

@waxeagle How big of a compressor?

wax eagle

@BMitch just a 3 gallon one.

basically needed something to get me 30 psi to pop the cylinder out of a caliper

BMitch

That's enough to run most nail guns

wax eagle

@BMitch cool, I was hoping so :)

I've got a couple of jobs on my long term list that a nailer would be helpful with

The Evil Greebo

why do I always end up super busy on thurs afternoons during PUT?

lsiunsuex

@TheEvilGreebo you suck at time management ? :)

BMitch

Dec 6, 2012 20:12

@TheEvilGreebo Quit doing real work and start slacking off like the rest of us!

The Evil Greebo

Probably

lsiunsuex

and... you just killed the chat. good job!

The Evil Greebo

YAY! I'M POWERFUL

lsiunsuex

i'm trying to crash the UPS website now by refreshing it every 2 minutes to see if the status of my package has changed (it hasn't )

The Evil Greebo

@lsiunsuex If you keep clicking that you'll go blind.

lsiunsuex

Dec 6, 2012 20:20

can we ask questions during PUT or just share projects?

the grout in the kitchen floor which is / was a nice beige has gotten quite dirty - almost a nice shade of grey now in some spots :( - recommendations ?

i have a steamer, dont mind using chemicals

The Evil Greebo

@lsiunsuex clean it

lsiunsuex

well, yeah

with what? vinegar? windex ? alcohol (bacardi or strait vodka ) ?

The Evil Greebo

have you tried cleaning it yet?

lsiunsuex

obsessively compulsively i scrub the floor by hand once every 4 months with hot water / some floor cleaner she has - not cutting it anymore

its my quarterly cleaning of the house i do - trim, doors, everything gets wiped down - if trim needs to be repainted / touched up...

BMitch

@lsiunsuex I'd suggest cleaning it. :)

The Evil Greebo

Dec 6, 2012 20:26

sounds like its stained

you could remove it and regrout

lsiunsuex

@TheEvilGreebo passing my mind

BMitch

Or tear the house down, build a new one.

The Evil Greebo

@BMitch Thats probably best

lsiunsuex

the tile is porcelain so it should stand up to the dremel grout remover

but i just remodeled the kitchen 3 years ago :(

The Evil Greebo

use epoxy grout when you redo it

BMitch

Dec 6, 2012 20:27

@lsiunsuex Did you remember to seal the grout?

The Evil Greebo

and be careful with the grout remover - it can easily chip tile edges (ask me how I know :( )

lsiunsuex

ummm..... i left that up to the wife ?

BMitch

and then reseal it every year after

The Evil Greebo

@lsiunsuex YOU FOOL YOU!

@BMitch Something not necessary w/ epoxy grout :D

Jeremy Stein

This chat needs more pics. :)

I procrastinated too long on building a new 8-foot table. Now I'm trying to stain it in the garage in 40°(F) weather.

I'm hoping it still dries OK.

lsiunsuex

Dec 6, 2012 20:31

@JeremyStein nice

do you have a space heater you can turn on ?

Jeremy Stein

@lsiunsuex Yeah, but I'm loathe to heat the outdoors.

The Evil Greebo

can it come indoors?

lsiunsuex

or stain it in the house - the fumes aren't that bad - i slept through hard wood floors drying for 5 days and didnt die

BMitch

It's a garage, close the door.

The Evil Greebo

@lsiunsuex Don't do the same for polyeurothane tho

wax eagle

Dec 6, 2012 20:33

@lsiunsuex I didn't die is the top qualifier for safety on DIY right?

3

lsiunsuex

@TheEvilGreebo i did

Jeremy Stein

Thanks for the suggestions. I only want to move it once, so maybe

I'll close the door and adda space heater.

lsiunsuex

@waxeagle i didn't die is the slogan right next to the darwin award

wax eagle

@lsiunsuex yes.

BMitch

@JeremyStein don't take our punchy nature too seriously, we're a tough crowd.

The Evil Greebo

Dec 6, 2012 20:34

@BMitch Speak for yourself. I'm a soft cuddly teddybear.

Jeremy Stein

@BMitch It's more fun that way.

BMitch

@TheEvilGreebo YOU LIE!!!

wax eagle

@JeremyStein looks gorgeous. Dining room table?

The Evil Greebo

@BMitch YOU THINK?!?!?!

lsiunsuex

everyones nice and friendly till someone holds a nail gun to your temple

wax eagle

Dec 6, 2012 20:35

I consider hanging out in here tantamount to setting foot on a construction site, you're going to get screwed around with here...

BMitch

everyone's nice and friendly after you hold a nail gun to their temple

Jeremy Stein

@waxeagle Yes, thanks.

wax eagle

@JeremyStein might have to build my own whenever my folks decide to move back to the states permanently and take their table back...

BMitch

Although the sawzall is my favorite for mass carnage and the ramset is my favorite for using a 22 cal gunpowder cartridge.

Jeremy Stein

@waxeagle It's this plan: ana-white.com/2009/12/plans-farmhouse-table-knock-off-of.html

Supre-cheap 2x wood

wax eagle

Dec 6, 2012 20:37

@JeremyStein we've looked at several of the plans on that site (the fold up sandbox is on our list of to-do projects)

Jeremy Stein

Yeah, my wife has a long list of her plans for me to do. :)

lsiunsuex

that table looks like something i've seen at Pottery Barn

The Evil Greebo

spike.com/video-clips/gaxcss/…

speaking of nail guns

lsiunsuex

potterybarn.com/products/…-NoFacet---_-

not to far off

Jeremy Stein

I love it when my mis-aligned boards and knotty wood can be considered "rustic" features. :)

@TheEvilGreebo Dang it, Greebo. NSFW, dude! I should have checked the URL before I clicked.

The Evil Greebo

Dec 6, 2012 20:47

@JeremyStein um

it's PG

Jeremy Stein

I know, but still not something you want overseen.

The Evil Greebo

you sure about that? ;)

Jeremy Stein

Unless they overlooking body notices it's Nathan Fillion. That might counteract the rest. :)

The Evil Greebo

you didn't finish it I take it

Jeremy Stein

I did.

I mean NSFW in the literal sense.

The Evil Greebo

Dec 6, 2012 20:49

I suppose nsfw is work dependent

Jeremy Stein

True enough.

Pray continue! The last time I joined a PUT, I killed it. Looks like I've done it again.

The Evil Greebo

I haven't done much this week - we're kinda resting after the major renovation period

Aaron

Dec 6, 2012 21:11

so exhaust fan is in progress

on a tangent, that ceiling strap and junction box are the stupid

The joists were put in, then this strap and box were put in, and THEN they put up the ceiling

I don't have the foggiest notion how to get it out of the way

I ended up using the dremel to get a good portion of it out of the way, but there are a some nubs left and I have no idea how to remove it without making a gigantic mess of things

shirlock homes

Hi there boys and girls

Jeremy Stein

@shirlockhomes He's back!

shirlock homes

what am I looking at in your pic?

Is there a light under that jbox?

where is everybody this afternoon?

Aaron

@shirlockhomes it was, but it was covered over with a round blank face plate in the bathroom

(and painted over, but that's another discussion)

shirlock homes

ok.... surprized you don't incorporate it in the new fan install

maybe I'm late and don't know what you are really doing

Aaron

Dec 6, 2012 21:23

Well, define 'incorporate'

shirlock homes

what are those chrome rods?

Aaron

I needed to get that box out of the way because that's where I wanted to put the fan, and I just put the cables into a bigger box right next to it, but accessible from the attic side

what chrome rods?

BMitch

@Aaron That's the normal order for any new work install.

shirlock homes

i see what look like small diameter chrome wires/rods??????

never mind, i just emlarged it it s the foil lolololol

Aaron

@BMitch and how in the world is someone supposed to remove the strap and box later?

Shouldn't it go between the joists instead of on the bottom of the joists?

BMitch

Dec 6, 2012 21:28

@Aaron you aren't, without sawing or removing a chunk of your ceiling. Just like a new work electrical box in a wall, they don't expect you'll try to remove it from the other side of the wall.

Aaron

They haven't met me yet!

I do unexpected stuff all the time!

shirlock homes

I think I smell a sawzall job coming up lol

BMitch

Very few objects inside the ceiling or wall are designed to be easy to renovate without opening up the drywall first.

Sawzall would be fun, but it would probably destroy the ceiling under it. Something like a dremel might be better.

shirlock homes

hell no. drill holes at the corners of the hole for the fan, then cut out the ceiling from the bottom. Connect the dots

Aaron

I ended using the dremel to cut the straps right up against the joist

shirlock homes

Dec 6, 2012 21:32

use a finer tooth blade

OK drive the nubs into the wood with a hammer

Aaron

the fan fits nicely between the joists and the strap is as out of the way as I can get it without making any additional holes besides the one for the fan opening itself

shirlock homes

sounds good so far

Aaron

to cut the hole for the fan itself, jigsaw, multitool, .... ?

shirlock homes

I guess I really don't know what the question is or if there is a question. lololololol

Multitool is good. I loike a sawszall from the bottom

but a multitool will do a good job

Aaron

so drill holes at the corners of the box, then draw lines on the bottom connecting the holes, then cut that?

shirlock homes

Dec 6, 2012 21:36

is it simple sheetrock?

Aaron

@shirlockhomes I don't know if I really had a question or not either, I was just participating in PUT

@shirlockhomes plaster

shirlock homes

yep. quick and easy

drill small holes, connect the dots, cut

a sabre saw works well too

if you use a fine blade, it won't make as much of a mess

Aaron

although it shows the duct exiting right away from the fan, and I need to have an elbow to bring it over the joists:

deltabreez.com/Products/InstallationGuide/…

page 3 on the install sheet

shirlock homes

oh ya, the not included plumbing. lol

Aaron

should I get a solid elbow and then flex tubing for the rest of the run, or just go flex tubing right away (the insulated kind)

shirlock homes

Dec 6, 2012 21:42

how far of a run?

Aaron

probably 20 feet

shirlock homes

if you don't kink it, you can go flex. if you want to clear the insulation or be able to get insulation close to fan, put in a simple elbow first... either way is safe and works

be sure to strech out the fles for max airflow, cut off excess

Aaron

why do these morons not provide a cut sheet either

shirlock homes

welcome to chinese made products

the instructions on all kinds of products today are so lacking

I absolutely hate the ones with pics only, no words. usually by a bad artist to boot

Let's talk vacations in Florida.... Sick of work and it's getting cold here

lsiunsuex

Dec 6, 2012 21:59

Vegas!

BMitch

Vacations in Florida sound like a good idea

Taking the Black Pearl (did I remember her name) down there or leaving her in dry dock?

Actually, vacations are a great cutoff point for put, so I'll close this up...

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