Conversation started Oct 6, 2011 at 18:55.
Oct 6, 2011 18:55
Welcome to Project Update Thursday #06!
woooo
well in that case, I'll go real quick
(I'm worried i'm going to get called away to a meeting, so I figured it was best to do this now. :D)
my home improvement this week consisted of landscaping, cutting back bushes, fixing grading issues
and showing my neighbor the awesomeness of a sawzall
that's it, turning the mike over to whoever wants to go next
Oct 6, 2011 18:57
i demand photos!
lol, no pics, the sawzall lasted an entire 10 seconds
took more time to find the blades than anything else
awww
but i wanna see your lawnnnn
you mean my weeds?
My only update this week is that we updated our project budget last week and concluded that the temporary counter replacement ended up costing us $800 , 1/4 of which was replacing the dang stupid disposal, so we're set that much back in preparing for the electrical panel upgrade muttermutter
Oct 6, 2011 19:01
on an unrelated note, my construction neighbors seem to be installing a retaining wall on their side of the fence they are building... I'm not sure I count it as an 8' fence if they put it in a 4' deep ditch
Almost electrocuted myself last night. I was adding a new receptacle in the garage. Started to open up the junction box I was going to tap, and thought hmmm maybe I should test for voltage just in case. Good thing I did, the receptacle I was going to tap was on a different circuit and still LIVE!
Hey it's a new face!
Hi there, @billoreid :D
whoever wired up the garage put that one receptacle on the light circuit, while all the rest are on their own.
@Tester101 "Well I've already got this wire here...."
Found a different receptacle to tap. I hadn't cut the wire to length yet, so I just rerouted it.
Oct 6, 2011 19:10
:O
Hey, saw the link on the diy page and figured I'd check out the chat. Seems to be...sparse.
What we lack in numbers we make up for in spunk!
Oh geez did I just actually say "spunk"?
Yes, yes you did.
edit fast! moxie's a better word anyway
hey there @Doresoom sorry you came in at the worst possible moment ;)
haha, i'll survive
@BMitch I did some similar yard work this past week as well
Transplanted some rose bushes and tilled a flower garden/planted bulbs
and planted a maple in the front yard last weekend
Oct 6, 2011 19:16
I resent the implication that me saying "spunk" is the WORST possible moment.
@Doresoom photooooos
There's the tree. No pics of the flowerbed - I'll wait til it has flowers
@Doresoom shiny.
@TheEvilGreebo true. but that that is our lowest moment doesn't suck.
has anybody else ever used these?
I found out yesterday, they SUCK!
@Tester101 the non adjustable kind? Yeah, once.
@AarthiDevanathanΨ :P
Oct 6, 2011 19:24
@Tester101 I haven't. Sounds like an easy blog post :)
they don't sit flush against the framing, so when you plug things in the whole box moves.
That's what I did this weekend. Also sucks.
Did it get all over?
Thanks to @Tester101 and @TheEvilGreebo I went in fully armed
Oh yes
Oct 6, 2011 19:26
haha. did you have a popcorned head?
I had plastic, canvas, and plastic curtains. I then tried to hold a cardboard box up and work inside that. Gave that up quickly.
@Tester101 What do you mean they don't sit flush? My problem was no control over the depth of the box
i hate dealing with popcorn
i always manage to get it in my eyes
@Tester101 gave me the protip. I wore goggles until I couldn't see out of them anymore.
@TheEvilGreebo it's slightly tapered along the side from the front to the back, so right next to the tab it's against the framing but the back is ~1/4" away.
So it pivots on the tab.
@SteveJackson Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, have multiple pairs of goggles!
Oct 6, 2011 19:31
I started out pretty terrible at it (using that can spray). Here's my first can:
Just kind of glopped it up there and tried to do something with it. It ain't popcorn exactly.
Can says to hold it 12" away. 20" worked a lot better for me.
:D
Oh hey!
@JohnFx welcome!
@SteveJackson get some goggles for when you paint it too. little bits will probably flake off while you roll it.
@Tester101 Yeah not sure how the painting will go. We're pretty sure that it was originally white (you can see where the light was and we didn't patch) and accumulated that lovely color over 30 years.
@Tester101 hadn't noticed that - double ugh then
big! soft! brush!
Oct 6, 2011 19:44
I prefer the kind that adjust forward and back - more solid structure too I think
They probably don't move once you put drywall up, but this is a garage so no chance of that happening. I'll probably just go pick up a metal box, and replace it.
I guess I'm confused then - why not use a normal work box?
Meanwhile: heeeeey @auujay
Thats the kind I like
I used the pvc box because it was ~$1.00, while the metal box was ~$2.00.
Sometimes being cheap, costs more!
Oct 6, 2011 19:59
This is $2.20 but it adjusts!
And it comes in a stylish blue!
and you don't need those special gromets like you do with the metal box (to stop the wires from getting cut)
Maybe I'll get one of those and give it a try.
though if you have old style 2x4s they dont work as well
I actually avoid the metal boxes not so much because they cost more, but becuse I hate having to ground the box.
they grip the front of the 2x4 but it needs to be a "new" 2x4
Oct 6, 2011 20:01
It's not often that I use new work boxes, most of my work is retrofitting so I use old work boxes a lot.
they are "newer" 2x4's so it should work.
I don't like metal boxes, because I thinks it's sort of silly to have an electrical connection in a conductive box.
never really made sense to me.
I spent the weekend painting and installing the ditra on the floor
no new pics yet though
I have yet to find a pvc box that has good wire clamps though, I usually end up snapping the little tabs accidentally.
@Tester101: my local lowe's has some boxes that look sturdier than usual.
and even when I don't snap the tabs, I never feel like it's really holding the wire.
@NiallC I know which ones you're talking about, but even those lack when it comes to clamps.
@Tester101, I don't think they are supposed to. That is why the NEC requires wire staples closer to plastic boxes then it does to metal boxes.
i think
I don't know were it says that but I seem to recall that is the case
Oct 6, 2011 20:08
I think they are supposed to, but NEC noticed they don't and changed the code.
Just today I went to the tile store to try and find some accent/mosaic tiles to run in a strip around the tub. But I was turned off by how crazy expensive they are. I am also worried about putting in a glass tile (which 90% of the accent tiles at the store are) as I think it is really trendy right now but I can see it dating the bathroom in 5-10 years.
I may just go with a simple 2x2 tile "grid mosaic" in a contrasting color instead
way cheaper too
@auujay good choice, tile is too much of a pain to change to go "trendy".
yeah, glass tile could very quickly go outta style. kinda like, umm, the glass-flecked tile I'll see sometimes. that tends to date a space fast, imho.
wow I killed the convo! :O
It's also a bad idea to "over personalize" a space. Everybody loved neon colors in the 80's, but try selling a house with a chartreuse tile floor!
@Tester101 or orange shag carpeting that's browned since 1975
Oct 6, 2011 20:22
@AarthiDevanathan who doesn't love orange shag carpeting?
@Tester101 only if it's from ikea. ;)
It's even better on the walls.
hey it's @ChrisF :D
The tile colors we picked are very neutral (for that very reason). The granite vanity top and shower shelves is a little trickier because it has a variety of colors in it that some people just may not like.
oh well
Hi - sorry not been around - food and stuff called.
Oct 6, 2011 20:23
@ChrisF Did you finish half your windows?
@SteveJackson Not really - it started raining, so there we couldn't do much. Hopefully better weather tomorrow
@ChrisF sounds like you did a "half sash" job!
@Tester101 Ha ha
Oct 6, 2011 20:37
So what is everyone planning on accomplishing this weekend? I'm going to do boring stuff like mow the grass and clean the oven.
We've got to make significant progress on the windows. It's a big bay with three sash windows - one large, two small. We have one small one completely stripped, but managed to break the glass in both panes - so that's another job. The other small window is half stripped and the big one about 1/4.
We need to get the small window reglazed tomorrow (which involved an out of town trip to get restoration glass) as well as the other windows fully stripped.
As it's a Victorian house we need to get the ripply effect of old glass but with new glass. Unfortunately it's 4x the price of regular float glass
I'm not familiar with restoration glass - the pic looks nice, but what is it?
@ChrisF holy crap, the glass adds a building!!!
Ahh - gotcha
Oct 6, 2011 20:43
When I had some old leaded glass replaced after a hail storm they were able to reuse salvaged glass to match that "old glass look"
I don't know if it cost 4x as it was covered by insurance but I bet that is what they are charging to recreate that old effect in a new product.
If we can do that and get the windows primed by the end of the weekend I'll be happy. My wife's not working at the moment so she'll be able to finish off the painting next week and then we can re-hang the windows on new sash cords. Then we'll have fully working windows again. Just in time to close up for winter
We've got secondary glazing (well perspex sheets with magnetic strips) that keep us a bit warmer and less draughty in the winter
@ChrisF that sounds like a much better idea than that shrink wrap crap.
The plastic window wrap never seems to last the whole winter.
It works reasonably well. The only downside is that our windows are quite large - 5' - 6' high and they're a little too big for the gauge of perspex we got so they can flex and bow leaving gaps. We've had to resort to using cleats to keep them flat.
I'll have to try building something like that for my windows.
We got our kits from 365plastics.com
They now do edging profiles - see the bottom of this page - 365plastics.com/Secondary-Glazing-FAQ.html - which weren't available when we bought. I think they'd help stiffen the perspex.
Though looking at the pics we might be able to retrofit. Hmm, will have to think about this
Oct 6, 2011 20:58
Do you just leave the magnetic tape up all the time?
@Tester101 Yes. It's white so it's not too noticeable. Less so if you're window frames are white and possibly even paintable - though we've not tried that.
Thanks for joining us for Project Update Thursday! We'll see you all here next week, same time and place!
 
Conversation ended Oct 6, 2011 at 21:00.