Conversation started Feb 18, 2020 at 8:47.
Feb 18, 2020 08:47
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Question:
A capacitor of capacitance $C$ is given a charge $Q$. At $t=0$, it is connected to an ideal battery of emf $\epsilon$ through a resistance $R$. Find the charge on the capacitor at time $t$
Answer:
I found it to be
$$C\epsilon (1-e^{-t/RC})+Qe^{-t/RC}$$
and it is correct. I want to discuss some interesting inferences I obtained from the above expression, sir.
The first term represents the charge on a capacitor when it's charging and the second term represents the charge when it's discharging. In this question, we're adding both charging and discharging terms when there's already some charge on a capacitor to be charged completely.
From some question and answers on Physics and Electrical Engineering StackExchange, I learnt that a capacitor cannot be charged and discharged at the same time. But here it seems, both charging and discharging can take place in much the same way forward and backward reactions proceed in a chemical dynamic equilibrium.
It isn't really a combination of discharging and charging.
Can a glass of water be filled when you are drinking out of it and pouring more water into the glass simultaneously? — Harry Svensson May 23 '18 at 23:11
It's a result of choosing the time origin.
Feb 18, 2020 08:55
@JohnRennie Yes sir. We're shifting the time scale towards right. That's how I derived the above formula.
But it seems, it's safe to assume given two independent capacitors, one charged with $Q$ amount of charge and the other one completely discharged to discharge and charge simultaneously. And adding both or in other words superimposing the both cases, it seems the net result comes out to be the same.
I don't know whether I made the point clear. But I'm sure this is something similar to dynamic chemical equilibrium where both forward and reverse reactions take place.
I'm not sure these are comparable.
In a reaction we reach an equilibrium state where the equilibrium is dynamic i.e. the rates of the forward and back reactions are the same.
And this really is a case where the reaction goes both ways.
In this problem the charge only ever flows in one direction.
Ok sir. Now I understand why this case is different.
Did you see the graph? It's strikingly similar to the one I see in Chemistry.
Yes, but the similarity is superficial.
Feb 18, 2020 09:04
Ok sir. Is there any additional inferences you could gather from this sir?
Nothing seems obvious to me ...
Ok sir. Thank you.
 
Conversation ended Feb 18, 2020 at 9:12.