@MoriDoweedhYaAgob So can you answer the question there , with evidences

@MoriDoweedhYaAgob

really?

now why do you say that?

(I'm talking about the last point)

@Daniel can you explain what is the answer to the above question as I did not expect this question to belittle judaism

And I cant understand what is wrong with the question

You say you want "the truth"

but the truth about what?

There is a big block of text that makes a large number of claims

You need to be specific about what you are asking about

The article that you quoted says a bunch of things that are true

and uncontroversial among jews

But is written in a way that seems to have misled you

The fact that Ezra wrote the Torah using Assyrian letters does not mean that he changed the content of it

and the fact that he introduced fences around the laws does not mean that he invented totally new laws

O I saw this now

I guess the article clearly gives states he did add new laws to judaism not just changing the letters,

need to go now

@Ali We have explained the differences between decrees and Torah laws to you many times

Ezra did not create any Torah laws

@Daniel Ya I understand that , the said decrees are I guess analogous to the Islamic fatwa which is different from Quran and Hadith

@Ali Exactly

The distinction is that we dont consider fatwas as Quran hadith , whereas the rabbis saying are considered to be torah

(Rabbinic))Torah=Torah+Talmud(sanhedrin+rambam+rashi+....)

@Ali Ok, but that is a much subtler difference than you seem to think it is

Either way, they are totally binding

And either way, the consequences for violating decrees are less severe than for violating the original law

Torah, in addition to it's meaning as the book of law, is also a word with a much broader meaning

Unlike Quran which (AFAIK) is only the specific book

Infact I also stumbled upon a tag in mi.yodeya where it literally said something like rabbi framing laws

The word "Torah" is sort of a word that means Jewish learning

@Ali Yes, the rabbis created laws. Those are "rabbinic laws"

They don't have the same authority as the written Torah

but we still follow them

The thing is that you don't seem to understand the distinction between rabbinic laws and Torah laws

Like separating meat and milk, as we have discussed in the past

@Daniel I do understand framing decrees or judgements but laws?

That is a Torah law, not a rabbinic one

@Ali What don't you understand about it?

We give the rabbis the authority to create laws

Maybe you don't like it

But that's just how it is

That's Judaism

Thats just Rabbinic Judaism

@Ali Yes, that's what we follow today

Karaites , samaritans and many others have a different take on this and are aligned with the Islamic standpoint

@Ali So?

They don't really exist today

except in very small numbers

@Daniel You gave the rabbis power to create laws , which is akin to adding laws

@Ali I didn't give them that power. The Torah gives them that power

@Ali - Are you trying to debate a foundation of rabbinic Judaism, then?

In Islam we have fatwas, they are based on Quran hadith they dont make new laws totally unrelated or to do "fencing"

Karaites and samaritans disagree with that interpretation

That's fine

They don't follow normative Judaism

That's a fine thing to do, but mi.yodeya is the wrong forum for debating it

@Ali Ok. We don't follow Islam, though. Our rules are different

But there is a prohibition to add new laws and some rabbis have done it under the garb of "fencing"

so the core law is being violated

@Ali That's your interpretation

Those rabbis know more about it than you do, though

Trust me, they know that you're not allowed to add to the Torah

There is no prohibition on making decrees and calling them decrees

@Daniel I find no problem in giving decrees\fatwas which are important

But they should be derived from the revelation book

@Ali Frankly, we don't care what you have a problem with and what you don't

You are making up rules of Judaism that don't exist

We don't follow Islam's rules about these things

We follow our own

So who makes up the rules?

@Ali Nobody makes them up

They are found in the Torah

and who is authorized to make the rules

@Ali Which rules?

the one you are refereing to

rules of Judaism

@Ali The groundwork comes from the Written Torah

That's where we find the authority of the rabbis to make decrees

decrees is fine as I said its the fencing which violates the commandment to not add laws

@Ali I say it doesn't violate that commandment

So there

you can't argue with me

because I didn't give a reason

That's the way you are arguing

@daniel Mikwoh is custom now a days. Also the decree for a Baal Keri to not recite torah or anything like that by 3zra is a "fatwa" in his time as seen in the gamoro which says it was his time. Mikwoh is not needed to Daven just minhag

@MoriDoweedhYaAgob You are talking about men, then?

Yea

Ok

Then I agree

I was confused becaues the part of the paragraph that I thought you were referencing said that Mikveh for women was added by Ezra

@ali jewish fatwas of the talmud are based on torah n scripture. These fatwas can not be changed without Sanhadreen. Some fatwas are not for today's times but are still kept because of no Sanhadreen. These fatwas don't change or add to the torah back then and they don't change or add anything to the torah now. It is just fatwas which are helping keep the sharia of the torah be properly done. For example we have sharia to recite sham3 at night and day.

Fatwa was made to recite it in first quarter or night as to not forget to recite it because you will be tired and will go to sleep without saying it. Sharia is to say it anytime in th night. So if you have missed the fatwa time to are liable only to punishment on rabbinic grounds because you are not breaking sharia. And we as Jews as stringent to keep fatwas of rabbis because they only help keep torah and not desecrate it astagfurallah.

@daniel no problem, I want to join that blog and confront that jewish Muslim girl. She seems the same like that yamani jew who converted to islam in RaMbaMs time and tried to twist jewish writing n law in order to have sufficient evidence for his conversion to islam although he and certainly this girl has lack of common knowledge of judaism.

Only back then the Yamani Jews were uneducated and were in distress because they were being forced to convert that is why they asked helped from RaMbaM. In today's times no one(I hope) is dumb enough to listen to false claims like his and hers.

InshaAllah I will get in contact with her