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12:00 AM
2011
 
"4.2 Restrictions. You may not and you agree not to:" -> lots of text, most of it causing the whole stuff to be considered invalid under dutch law
 
Skype runs off XMPP as well
Well, if the software gets developed by somebody who is is dutch, or in the Netherlands, it would still work
 
lol
@user88311: if you could get the skpe server info, and they use standard xmpp it might end up being pretty easy
 
Yes it states xmpp is not native to either of them, but both run off it
I feel like this sort of thing would slightly counteract what is mentioned in 4.2 as well, and this might help developer.skype.com/account/tools
So hennes, happen to know and dutch devs who would like to make a quick 200, mind you after conversion that would come to more about 150, but still
 
12:41 AM
Dutch dev or dutch devs with time. Ponders how busy Ariane is (not the S.U./S.O one)
 
Devs with spare time would probably be the best option
 
Bob
12:58 AM
@JourneymanGeek I while ago, but it's not as fast as the native protocol
But I recall hearing that they're closing that?
 
First I heard of it
 
 
3 hours later…
4:18 AM
Am I right to assume that when using an SSH tunnel the traffic for the server you're tunneling through is actually doubled? It would have to download then upload the data to send it through the tunnel, correct?
 
 
1 hour later…
5:33 AM
@ekaj: + ssh overhead
so slightly more
 
Meh okay, I don't know why that didn't occur to me earlier
 
@ekaj: any method of tunneling would likely end up doing that
 
Thanks for the answer =p
I have some really weird music on my puter..
 
lol
I have finnish girlpop
and scottish PIRATE METAL
 
5:49 AM
I am honestly not sure what all I have, but scottish pirate metal sounds kinda cool =p
 
Alestorm is a folk metal band from Perth, Scotland. Their music is characterized by a pirate theme, and as a result they have been dubbed a "pirate metal" band on a popular heavy metal related website. They refer to their genre as "True Scottish Pirate Metal". The band formed under the name Battleheart in 2004. After releasing two demos, they were signed by Napalm Records in 2007 and renamed themselves Alestorm. Their debut album was released on 25 January 2008. The band's third album, Back Through Time, was released in June 2011. Biography Battleheart Originally a two-member band...
 
No nuclear misslie yet. yay.
 
Hahaha I really like that =p
 
@Bibhas: that would be about as smart as sticking your arm in a lion's den... and you arn't a honey badger
 
I wonder how deep Anonymous is into their systems
 
5:52 AM
@JourneymanGeek Doesn't matter if you're insane. That kid doesn't look like sane to me.
 
@Bibhas: his dad was an EXPERT at acting insane, but being dangerously sane.
 
hmm. Let's just hope he inherited some of that sanity.
 
@ekaj: assuming they are even networked
 
I don't think the memes about him are helping his sanity, either
 
5:54 AM
Just saw one.
wait.
xD
 
granted we know that they use logitech trackballs in their military
and the current Kim is a mac user ;p
 
:D True
 
(just from this channel!)
 
I never get tired of those =p
 
hmm
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Q: What should I be looking at in order to speed up a program that needs a lot of processor power and cores?

RodneyI want to build a system in order to run one particular specialised program as fast as possible (currently it can take up to 50 hours to do a run on my laptop with an I5-processor). The program is written in VB6, does a lot of data/number crunching, and uses only one core. However, there is a ba...

I can haz reopen vote? ;p
 
6:00 AM
vb6!
 
@Bibhas: the rest of the advice is sound. I DID mention that porting it to modern multithreaded code is a good idea ;p
 
hmm
How do you reopen question?
 
You need 2000 rep iirc, anyway, it's open now
 
>.> I'll get there eventually
 
Yay :)
 
6:21 AM
I think I am one of the few people who actually organizes their iTunes library (and uses itunes..)
 
dude with 34k rep on Stack Overflow asks
> Could you please recommend me some routers that will work with OS X Mountain Lion, Windows, AND Linux machines
 
XD
 
wut.
 
Psh, he's a programmer, not a hardware expert
 
6:30 AM
can't see, screeny please
 
Can't view =p
Yay google instacache
 
@ekaj everyone is supposed to know about it
 
Amazing how fast that page was cached.
 
@ekaj was asked 2 days ago..
 
Great another Indian, @Sathya has a knack for finding stupid indians
 
6:32 AM
blame our sheer population for that ;p
 
Oh >.> Well, it was a cached page I shouldn't have trusted the date on it =p
 
@ekaj ;p
moar for you, @hack
-1
Q: Mobile view mail's auto delete past 1 week

user214321I am using ipad and blackburry mobile to configure my mails.But, Every month mail box full. I want to auto delete past 1 week messages.

 
> I am using ipad and blackburry mobile
facepalm
 
Hey, any recommendations on a tiny web server for static content and almost no traffic?
 
nginx
 
6:37 AM
nginx or lighttpd will do the trick ...
 
>.> just opened a web page on both of those
 
What is the idle memory footprint?
 
Prolly the amount of memory it uses when it's not doing any work (just listening)
Idle usage is really low for nginx and lighty
 
How tiny is this web server?
 
lighty uses 14 mb
nginx prolly uses less, donno
 
6:43 AM
I dunno if I'm doing it right, but I did ps -aux on a box running nginx and saw there were various nginx: worker processes, and they all add up to 1.5% mem
 
Satyha what is that program again, ftop?
 
htop
 
Or something similar in name =/
Thanks =p
 
nginx runs two instances o0
 
6:44 AM
@HackToHell no, I've confgiured it to run 2 processes
 
@Sathya for performance reasons ?
my vps has a pathetic uptime of 16 days :(
 
ooh it's free \o/
 
here's a screenshot from newrelic
 
I meant this newrelic.com
was wondering what that was ;p
 
6:47 AM
@HackToHell yeah, the free one has some limitations, but good enough for me
 
You get a T shirt for free for signing up :D :D
 
@HackToHell wordpress reasons
 
@HackToHell no, you get tshirt for deploying their application monitor
 
Just saw that :/
 
6:49 AM
server monitor != application monitor
I should create a VM and deploy it there
 
@Portablejim: wgat OS?
 
@JourneymanGeek Ubuntu.
I just installed nginx.
 
@Sathya newrelic is awesome ! Thanks for the screeny :O
 
Heyyy I just met you, and this is crazy..
 
:P
@HackToHell welcome
 
6:56 AM
@ekaj Give me your ip and i will dos you
 
lol
192.101.80.14
 
newrelic is probably the only fruitful thing I've found from twitter's promoted tweets
 
@ekaj not gonna fall for that ;p
 
What =p that's the IP I'm behind
The servers here only have 64GB of RAM and 60 are being used.. would it be hard to hog up that last 4GB with a DOS?
If that's how it even works.. I just know it hogs resources, or thought it did
Meh, what I get when I download music - i.imgur.com/ZBHd0Oe.png
 
lol
@ekaj: there's a reason ANYTHING new I get gets retagged and checked with mp3tag ;)
Its an annoying extra step, but only badly tagged stuff I got is old
 
7:10 AM
It would be absolutely amazing if I could use this on my current library.. it's kinda big =/
 
@ekaj You can use MusicBrainZ Picard then
 
no it isn't ;p
and picard works best when you have albums already clumped together
@HackToHell: musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainz_Picard you mean? ;p
headesks
got past the most painful part of that assignment
 
The artists that I know I have a complete album of are in the <artists>/<album> folder.. all the random songs are in the <random songs> folder =p
 
lol
sounds like mine
mine's artists/albums/codecs
for some wierd reason
 
i.imgur.com/JenyGf9.png and i.imgur.com/fxRp8nX.jpg .. second one cracked me up =p
 
7:20 AM
@JourneymanGeek yes
 
Picard works well for me... also set it to rename & embed cover art
 
-1
Q: How Can I Send Mother's Day Cookies To Austria?

Himali PatelMother's day is coming in next month and i want to send chocolate cookies to my mom in austria. so can you tell me how can i send it to Austria.

o0
 
7:42 AM
@JourneymanGeek Really tough question, we should call the Expert
 
:D :D :D
who is this guy?
Stock photo or someone from SE?
lol. the image url - http://sstatic.net/superuser/img/it-kama-sutra.jpg
 
hmm, TIL there's a SO IRC channel on freenode ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek sent a mod message:
don't spam. Cookies will be crumbled.

Regards,
Sathya
Super User moderator
 
7:55 AM
Sathya the Cookie Monster!
 
Win! ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek that.. was known to be infamous
 
Aha! Long time since I last saw this. Stock it is then.
 
each site has it's own.. um, "quirk"
 
That is Not the droid they're looking for!
@sathya seen the url of superuser "quirk"?
16 mins ago, by Bibhas
lol. the image url - http://sstatic.net/superuser/img/it-kama-sutra.jpg
:P
 
Bob
8:02 AM
@JourneymanGeek what.
 
8:23 AM
@Sathya in what way?
 
@JourneymanGeek certain person impersonating to be Jeff, etc
 
8:40 AM
Hey guys, I have a question that I'm scared of asking in main site, so I ask here...
I want to access twitter
it is filtered in my area ...
I can ping it, and I can see the ip
But I can not access it with a proxy, like "tor" nor "toonel"
using tor I can access blogger which is filtered too
How can I solve this?
 
You do know chat is google indexed right? ;p
what area?
 
@JourneymanGeek Yes. Iran
 
It is indexed, but hardly anyone will check chats ...
:)
 
I wonder if one of the VPNs people use to get around the chinese firewall will work
 
8:53 AM
Nope :) All VPNs are blocked
 
@OliverSalzburg Are you serious now?
@JourneymanGeek @MostafaShahverdy How about this one?
http://www.vpnbook.com/
 
9:11 AM
@Boris_yo oops, the website is filtered! plus we can not use vpn at all! all famous vpn ports are filtered ...
 
lol
I don't use VPN at all
I've never actually come across any site my government blocks
 
 
1 hour later…
10:24 AM
@Boris_yo The image did not appear on my side is what I was trying to say. And when I clicked the (broken) image, I got a message from the host that hotlinking is not allowed.
@Bibhas Searching stock images for "it kama sutra" is interesting...
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg well, the latter two words do tend to turn up interesting results
 
@Bob Not what I mean though ;D
 
Bob
o.O
 
11:20 AM
xD
So, this guy did Firefox cosplay, try to guess how it might look.
 
The globes I bought just arrived and one of the packages is completely wrapped in duct tape
Every side is fully covered
Why?
What the... O___o
That is the most crazy packaging I have ever received
 
12:10 PM
What the.........
That doesn't even look like packing foam, it looks like minced up popcorn from a theater mixed with week old minced fries from some fast food place
 
12:23 PM
hmm
 
Is there a stack exchange laundry site? I got some nonsense from salesdroids for them.
1) Dry spinning (?) at high speed is only useful if you wash at high temperature. (heck no)
2) centrifugesnelheid (dry spinning speed) is not the speed of the spinning but the speed of the engine (heck no!)
3) For a few 'tens' (euros) more you can buy insurance. (250 euro is not 'a few tens')
4) The LAW requires you to pay installation costs (Heck no!)
5) You need to buy this today because next week I will recommend an other washing machine (whut?)
Hmm, click here to see more text is off by one line
 
Wow, all I can say
Hey hen, isn't there a chat or stackexchange site for people who talk just programming, relating to last nights question
Nevermind, found it
 
Bob
@Hennes speed of spinning vs speed of engine? what?
Law? Where do you live? o.O
 
Vs the drum containing the laundy.
IS drum the right word? Not sure
 
Bob
250 is a few 'tens': 25 of them! :P
 
12:30 PM
But mainly: I do not care how fast the engine spins. I do care how fast the laundry spins during a dry cycle
Which is usually 1:1
 
Bob
lol
depends. Isn't it normally belt transfer?
 
Electric engine ---- drum
speed                   same speed
Many are directly connected
 
Bob
again, not necessarily
 
But even if they use a belt transfer and different sized connections and I am not interested in the engine
 
Bob
I can see it being cheaper to have a faster engine, and a simple belt transfer could translate that to higher torque
 
12:32 PM
Or "this laundry machine can run on green power" ( economically friendly produced electricity)
Ehm... yeah. it is electrical power. No difference at the power socket
 
Bob
lol
what the heck kind of salespeople do you have there?
 
I guess the correct reply would have been to ask if that would result in green tinted laundry
 
Bob
(they normally try to promote saving water here, 'eco' modes and all)
 
I guess we have bloody idiots without any clue
in four different shops
 
Bob
xD
 
12:34 PM
So to put short, you're shopping for a new washing machine hen
 
Water saving is sensible.
Using so called green power (which may be less environmentally friendly than regular power) can be a good thing. But the bloody machine does not care.
 
Bob
But the law requiring you pay installation costs? does that mean you have to pay, but you can install it yourself anyway?
though I can see some places regulating installation of things like this
 
Um, hen, you got a statement backwards there
 
Bob
probably not for your standard plug-it-into-the-wall-and-water-pipe one, though
 
Which one ?
 
12:35 PM
The point of green power is to be more environmentally friendly, not less
 
The green power LESS eco friendly? That one turned out to be true in some cases
 
Bob
lol
nuclear power is actually relatively environmentally friendly, but isn't considered too green
 
A few years ago that was true for about a quarter of green power. More expensive. Less eco friendly
 
Bob
the main pollution from that would be use/heating of water
 
Partially because the power not sold as eco friendly came from plants which also switched to more ecological friendly production, but did not label their power that way
 
Bob
12:37 PM
not much fuel, and the actual quantity of waste produced is miniscule (barring accidents)
in contrast, wind/solar farms take up a lot of space
 
Uranium mining is polluting stuff (same as coal mining)
 
Bob
and hydro dams can have pretty big impacts
@Hennes oh yea, the mining. forgot about that
 
The actual nuke plants are clean. Once you have the fuel and once you have purified it.
 
Bob
I was focusing on pollution from the actual power production
but, arguably, the manufacturing of solar panels/wind turbines is pretty polluting too. same with nuclear/coal plants.
 
Aye
Old style solar panel used to cost more energy to manufacture (sum of energy needed to dig up resources, purify, manufacture) then they yielded in production.
Used to, past sense
And they still made sense in some places (e.g. on sattelites)
These days the efficiency of solar power is much better
 
Bob
12:41 PM
still needs far more area for the same amount of power, though
which is great if you have a large deserty place nearby. otherwise, not so much
 
Mwah. Deserts are not needed
IIRC efficiency drops off with light intensity
A theoretical desert with 10x as intense light will not produce 10x the electricity
And producing electricity in a desert and then transporting it incurs losses
A local desert will win compared to the northpole, but the difference is not always that clear cut
 
Bob
@Hennes Fairly minimal at higher voltages.
I'm more concerned with the infrastructure (wiring, etc.) required.
 
Germany has quite a lot of solar and win power.
 
Bob
The main reason I mentioned a desert is, you can't just create a massive solar farm in the middle of a city. Or forest.
Though you do have the advantage of being able to chuck panels on rooftops.
 
And they are not all that fanatic about it
So it probably makes sense even at those places
 
1:10 PM
@user88311 eheh.. not really. We do have Stackoverflow... I guess, but their main purpose seems to be throwing crappy questions to other sites ;p
As of monday almost all our lighting will be LEDs ;)
 
On the topic of wind power
 
its pretty neat since we keep our circular lighting fixtures (which drops a ton of the cost we were expecting), and they're a lot brighter than what we have now
also, pretty easy to swap, just replace the ballast with an LED driver, and plug it in the same way you plug in a regular LED
 
Well aware, where I live, my entire street is lit by solar LEDs and we have them for inside the house to, just have to bring the solar panels/batteries in if we put them out and not be windows and plug them in
 
@user88311: we replaced our screw type bulbs with em last year, and they work great, we mostly have those round tubes, and were putting it off cause we were expecting to need to change the fittings for LED lamps
these just replace what we have now
 
Bob
1:46 PM
@user88311 I don't see that being too efficient
At least, not yet.
 
Bob
2:21 PM
7}{47 1$ $0 |\|1(3 1 \/\/1$}{ 1 (4|\/|3 |_||* \/\/17}{ 7}{47! — Ярослав Рахматуллин 9 mins ago
That comment gave me a headache :\
(hi @ЯрославРахматуллин, are you in here?)
 
@Bob Translation: "That is so nice I wish I came up with that!"
 
#include<stdio.h> /******** SpigotQuine -- usage: ./spigot [pi or e] ********/
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"*z=k%%10,k/=10)k+=j/2**z;;for(;k=k%%j*"     "10+*++z,z<d;)*z=k/" "j;;\0@2,z="
"d=a+n*2,*z=1,j=0;++j<n;){for(;k=k%%"           "j*10+*z,a-z;*z"   "--=k/j)a+"
that's a headache
                          #define  \
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                      #define  q(s)p(#s)
                     #define S " endobj "
                    #define Y "endstream"S
                    #include     <stdio.h>
                    #define  o(s) b[s]=_;\
                     p("%u    0  obj",s);
#define E for         (c=d;c  < 123;c++)
  #define DANCE         "trailer   "D\
    (/Root 3 0            R /Size %d)            "\nstartxref %u %%%%EOF\n*/"
      #define              p(s, ...)             _+=printf(s,  ##__VA_ARGS__)
define E for
wow
 
                                                                               using System;
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                                                                     Collections             .Generic;
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                                                                Text;                             namespace
 
@allquixotic wth? lol
 
@Krazer curses won't help you with that, really...
@Tanner ioccc.org
3
 
2:33 PM
@allquixotic holy #$%$@%@#@#
 
@Bob I don't get it >_<
@allquixotic That's crazy haha
 
@Tanner what's your point?
 
@allquixotic No point =D
 
There we go.
 
2:44 PM
@ruda.almeida area51.stackexchange.com :P
 
@Tanner Oh, there's already a Moodle proposition
 
@ruda.almeida While you're there... area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/52519/… ;)
 
@allquixotic I actually have a book about that ;D
 
@Tanner ?referrer=... why you greedy, selfish, ...
 
hahahaha
 
Gotta get that area51 rep :P
 
@Tanner Hm, if I say I will commit to it only to make @Tanner happy and then never actually visit the site will I ever be punished?
 
@ruda.almeida pfft don't do that :P
 
@OliverSalzburg sweet! a CD? ... no? you mean an unconventionally large hard drive then? NO? You mean... like.... one of those thin, wafer-like 720Kb floppies from when I was 6 years old?! :D
2
 
@allquixotic Yeah, the latter :D
It's still in the original packaging (the disk that is)
 
2:50 PM
in DOS, A: was my 3.5" floppy drive (1.44 MB) -- the heavy hitting, extra-super-valuable floppy drive because it could store an entire game on one floppy most of the time -- and B: was my 5.25" floppy drive (720Kb) -- the medium that Apogee often used for early games because those floppies were cheaper to make
that is actually the historical reason why the system volume drive letter defaults to C:
 
and I was alive when that operating system was modern, and I distinctly remember having A: floppy, B: floppy, and C:
I was in 1st grade
 
This is how people shared crazy stuff before they had internet :P
They made books with 5.25s in it
 
@OliverSalzburg which became books with CDs in them
which became books with DVDs in them
which became books with URLs in them
which became PDFs with URLs in them
which became online websites where you "rent" your book then lose access to it when you're done
 
2:53 PM
I'm waiting for micropayment modem to hit textbook licensing
"pay only for the hours that you study"
10 cents per hour
"I couldn't afford to pass the test because I ran out of money"
 
Hmm... I need to get work done, but I need coffee first, but I didn't use my thermos yesterday and need to clean it out, but I'm too lazy. ~_~ I've been wrestling with that for 15 minutes.
 
@B0|3 `/ |_| |\|0 |234|> 1337$|*34|<2?3(}{0 7}{47 1$ $0 |\|1(3 1 \/\/1$}{ 1 (4|\/|3 |_||* \/\/17}{ 7}{47\!
 
@ЯрославРахматуллин what the hell
@Tanner JFDI!
 
fiiiiine :P
 

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