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12:05 AM
Is a mod around?
I think @jrg left.
@detly You don't need to delete your question.
If you're still around for an answer it obviously isn't abandoned ;)
 
12:20 AM
@GeorgeEdison that's clean looking. does it have to maintain focus and does it prevent sleep for large transfers
 
Transfers...? It's a remote control for a media player.
 
Say.. Did you write this in Java?
 
woops. i thought we were talking an android nitroshare
 
Heavens, no!
It's written in Python.
 
Oh yeah.. I saw that. Duh!
 
12:22 AM
@AbrahamVanHelpsing That's in the works too, don't worry. But it's a loooong ways off :P
 
How does it work with Android then?
 
@Seth sl4a is my guess
 
It's just a simple HTTP server that you access with your phone browser.
 
Oh, from the browser
OK got it.
 
@GE yup, i toyed with making an app like that. did i mention that bottle.py is skeksi.
 
12:26 AM
Once further along, this will work with other media players, like VLC and Rhythmbox.
(And if I'm feeling particularly good that day, maybe Banshee.)
 
Did I tell you my new weekender project? Trying to take apart the kindle reader app apk and changing the platform dependent parts to work with desktop. I may finish it.
@GeorgeEdison don't all the media players support multimedia control over a generic dbus interface? one ring to rule them all type of thing
REST DBus api for the win
 
Are you sure you didn't see a post I made on facebook yesterday or the day before?
 
Nope.
 
any of you play team fortress 2 on steam, I got into it recently
 
12:29 AM
nope
 
had to try out my new computer(friends old computer) with graphics and such
 
Neat. Linux needs a standard DBUS rest bridge. You can use just about any wrapper, but it needs to be like:
dbusbridge_instance = DBUSREST()
dbusbridge_instance.allow_add(provider.api)
dbusbridge_instance.run()
was the post i thought you saw, but genericising media player interfaces is also a worthy effort
 
@mateo_salta One of these days, we'll all have a massive multiplayer 0 A.D. game.
 
that would be cool
 
you know what else might be cool? a project to remake all the old abandonware as html/browser games (flash strictly disallowed)
 
12:36 AM
Still looking for a mod.
 
Museum Madness was one of my favorites.
 
@Seth I can flag your message. Mods will show up ;) that would be less than helpful since they would be other site mods
 
lol
yeah, that wouldn't help at the moment :P
 
@mateo_salta my current retro flavor is masters of magic and the crusader no regret/no remorse pair
i saw somewhere that people wanted a civ mod for masters of magic, but it got tabled because microprose or the other co that was part of building it said no
 
1:04 AM
hm, thats the problem with some abondnware
 
my stance is build a new one or walk away. nobody bought your game for a decade. stop being a pita
 
Do we need a tag?
Maybe synonymize it to ?
 
kill.them.with.fire. neither needs to exist
 
I think the freeze tags has its place.
But certainly not crash.
 
crash is awesome ..... to find things to add to the close queue!
6
 
1:09 AM
nice
 
lol
 
crash certainly doesn't. become more speific. freeze, dumps text to screen, artifacts on screen different kinds of oops happening
@JorgeCastro yes.i.starred.that.
 
I know sometimes I think about having a tag just to attract the bad questions...
How about --> or vice versa?
 
a diff is a specific thing
differences makes no sense though
 
Oh, OK.
I'll add to the list.
 
1:11 AM
the opposite of differences is not patches while the opposite of diff is patch
 
What about and ?
 
don't change meaning in edits
 
I still need a mod!
@AbrahamVanHelpsing sorry, messed that one up.
Still the same?
 
@Seth Try pinging Oli. He was active just a minute ago.
 
@Oli I need some help.
 
1:16 AM
Now, why did you need a mod, out of curiosity?
 
That's your post?
 
OP got confused and thought he needed to delete it when he didn't.
@ObsessiveSSOℲ No.
 
ok so who has votes to clean up ?
 
1:17 AM
I've got all my votes, I can start back to front
 
@JorgeCastro You man delvotes?
 
@JorgeCastro Close votes?
 
close votes
 
I got 12
Lets go!
 
1:18 AM
ok
Starting now!
 
OH YEAH
user image
2
XD
 
I've got to go, sorry.
 
@Seth double supervote for the win
 
wait
@Seth
don't change the tag
just close and vote to delete
 
@JorgeCastro Okay. Why?
 
1:25 AM
there's no reason to flood the front page with a bunch of junk
let's just close them all and then we can ask for a mod to kill the tag
 
Okay. By all do you mean the good ones too?
 
of course not...don't be silly. that's like saying layer 2 devices can't route then countering with "but some switches let you static route vlans". so we should delete all references to layer 2 devices not doing routing? no. we should leave out static routing vlans in beginner classes because it's a SRT
 
@Seth what do you mean the good ones?
 
I guess we can VTR this: askubuntu.com/a/191800/44179
@JorgeCastro never mind.
 
ok, all my votes are gone
 
1:29 AM
Anyone want to answer this:
2
Q: Restart application after crash?

wegsehendocky crashes from time to time for me. How can I make it restart automatically after it crashed?

OK out of votes.
I wish we could get more of them.
 
@Seth the best way to answer that is with inotify. if docky is not an open file, then it's not executing. libnotify lets you schedule callbacks on close, so as long as it's actually running when you start your watchdog: schedule a launch on close. problem solved without sleep or spinning a process constantly like that awful while loop
 
jrg
2:12 AM
@Seth sup
 
0
Q: lxc networking quesion

RaymundI have a similar requirement to the OP of this thread. I want the following configuration: -Physical host (PhyHost) reachable from the network at IP 10.1.101.89 -LXC container (LxcHost) reachable from the network at IP 10.1.101.95 Each contactable from the other. OS = Ubuntu Server 12....

 
@jrg I need a question undeleted please
 
jrg
ok, so how do you guys feel about the rolling release thing?
@Seth linky?
 
1 hour ago, by Seth
This should be undeleted: http://askubuntu.com/questions/114992/how-do-i-refresh-disk-utility
OP got confused and deleted it before I could comment
I tried pinging him, but I don't think he's ever visited chat.
 
jrg
2:38 AM
ok, done
sorry
 
Thank you @jrg.
dinner time. I'll ping the user afterward.
 
jrg
nobody has anything about the rolling release? No opinions at all? :(
 
Haven't read the whole thing yet :P
 
Oli
@jrg Yeah I have a massive blog post that I'm about to set on fire and push out into the silence.
I suspect a few others are doing the same.
 
jrg
my basic opinion is "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
but i'm too lazy to blog about it
 
Oli
2:44 AM
Note it's almost 3am here so it's certain to be full of language errors. Just poke me if you see any.
 
jrg
> and angry users when things just stop working.
oh man, totally agreed.
if i had $5 for every time at work we do a software update and our BYOD env breaks hard, i'd be rich.
we're at the point where when we see a CUPS update, we go cower in fear
and cast lots as to who will be responsible for the breaking change. :P
claps
well done sir, my thoughts exactly.
 
Oli
I think we (at AU) see a very different side to Ubuntu from Rick. We see all the users with problems and Rick sees all the developers with problems. They're often not the same problems.
 
jrg
right
 
Oli
Time for some sleep before waking up to the smell of the blog on fire.
 
jrg
hope you get some love from them. :)
 
Oli
2:59 AM
@jrg Ta! Yeah reddit comments always tend to be pretty tempestuous. Looking forward to spending another night arguing :)
 
jrg
@Oli oh, yes.
should have seen the hate i got on my "IAmAITGuy, and my nexus 7 could replace my laptop for 90% of my work"
"oh, dude, i should get a blog and write stuff like this, i'd be famous."
@Flabricorn: We have dates for our April event. April 26th (Friday) from 3-5, and April 27th (Saturday) from 9-4. Welcome to camp out at work if you want.
I'm praying you're available for at least friday. :P
@Seth: if you can look into resubmitting, that'd be great. github.com/AskUbuntu/ProFormaComments/pull/14
 
Humans. Are. A. Funny. Species.
In more ways than 1.
Hi @jrg.
 
jrg
3:15 AM
hi
 
Sup?
 
jrg
not much
moody about this rolling release thing.
think they are going to do it?
 
I actually think they will. In some ways, I think they should.
It will give Ubuntu a competitive edge in the mobile space, and free OEMs of having to offer a system that will be stuck without official support for newer versions of Ubuntu.
 
jrg
yeah, i can see it being nice, but at the same time, it's like "ew"
 
It could get messy, that's for sure.
 
jrg
3:20 AM
in other news, this would be a perfect time to move to a git-based OS.
 
Hmm, that's an interesting concept.
 
jrg
then you have two tracks.
'master'
and 'stable'
'stable' kernel
'master' gnome stack
'stable' chrome
'master' python stack
 
Nice
Couldn't that be done with bzr though?
 
jrg
it'd do a poor job of it though
 
Oh I see.
Any reason why though?
 
jrg
3:38 AM
lack of documentation and support
and bzr doesn't fit the full model of distributed version control systems.
 
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Hello @RolandiXor @jrg
 
@jrg I would have to look into this.
@AmithKK hi :)
 
@Oli BTW, I finally figured out how to get into the cleanup site, but I'm getting already closed questions in my queue..
 
jrg
branches is the killer feature of DVCS.
 
@RolandiXor Hi
 
jrg
3:41 AM
and bzr has a poorly documented version of branches.
 
@jrg K. What's the actual problem? Too many commits, or was it because @ObsessiveSSOℲ 's was merged?
 
I see.
@Seth it is you.
 
Ah, I see Obsessive's wasn't merged.
 
jrg
@Seth no clue, i haven't looked into it
just saw that it can't merge cleanly.
 
hmm OK.
Hard to resubmit when I don't know what the problem is...
I'll try.
@jrg There I tried again.
If it gives you the same problem I might re-fork the repo.
 
jrg
3:49 AM
re-fork please
same problem
 
okay.
 
So, anyone mind telling me the topic?
 
My PR
 
Personal Resume?
 
Pull Request ;)
@jrg ping.
This better work.
 
jrg
3:56 AM
it worked
 
weird.
Thanks :)
@AmithKK The other topic is this new rolling release idea.
 
Which I think is awesome. ;p, but only in addition to the twice yearly updates
 
Hi @JourneymanGeek
 
jrg
replaces.
 
@jrg Git does have some merge issues :P
 
4:04 AM
Then they risk losing the enterprise crowd
 
jrg
i don't know any enterprise-types who aren't using the LTS
 
@jrg I do :P
 
jrg
i mean, we have a single box at work that is 12.10
 
The ones I set up runs 12.10 now
 
Ya. Lts does have a major version freeze,yes?
 
jrg
4:05 AM
but we need specific versions of stuff and i didn't want to backport it.
 
@jrg like?
 
jrg
would rather just go through the updating pain until it lands in precise, and then rebuild that VM from scratch on a weekend.
@AmithKK printer drivers.
 
@jrg Brother, Epson?
 
jrg
@AmithKK brother, canon, HP.
 
canon!
which one of them doesn't have drivers for 12.04?
 
jrg
4:07 AM
all 3.
we're just lazy, don't ask.
 
Odd
Well how's the rails course going?
 
jrg
excellent
 
How many peeps now?
And, mind sending me some like "short trailer-review footage" thingies?
 
in Let's get philosophical on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 2 days ago, by Sandwelbog
That's a pretty deep question. You'll fit in well here.
LOL
 
jrg
@AmithKK gtalk?
 
4:11 AM
I feel like saying "Deep subjects eh? A well is a deep subject.
 
jrg
Ah, on the other hand, well, that is a deep subject.
 
lol
 
@jrg I'm there
 
When you have more rep on MSO than any other site and you're not a moderator.. that's scary.
We better elect this guy.
 
jrg
that's scary
but the way it should be
 
4:26 AM
Aww, not working anymore.
 
Any flags up?
 
flags message
 
(I am rendering, so system is moving like molasses)
(but I can still handle flags if you did any flagging recently)
 
oooh molasses... yum.
It's a good thing molasses is slow otherwise I'd never be able to catch it... and that would be the end of the world.
 
lol
Man, I need a render farm... badly.
Like yestercentury.
 
4:35 AM
@RolandiXor Make one :P
 
Money? :)
 
:P
 
That took me roughly half an hour!
-_-
Could you imagine even a 10 second animation?
 
Odd
Is Blender a bit inefficient?
 
No, it's my system specs.
I think something changed in the latest Blender build though, because this used to be much faster.
Plus, this model has fewer faces than some of the others I've done.
 
5:15 AM
My head is spinning - working with cryptographic libraries is bad enough. It's even worse when you're doing it from multiple threads and trying to synchronize the whole mess.
 
 
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6:46 AM
Wait
A fridge running android
WHAT.THE.HECK?
now google will know our eating habits
 
6:59 AM
Good night :)
@GeorgeEdison get some sleep too!
 
Good morning. :)
 
Hey @Takkat
How are the absorbers :?
 
Absorbers are lurking around everywhere... but ... not for long. Friday \o/
 
@RolandiXor Will do.
 
@GeorgeEdison NitroShare for android :P
 
7:13 AM
It's coming... some time.
If anyone wants to learn Java and write the Android app for me, that would be awesome :P
I wonder how easy it is to generate a self-signed x509 certificate in Java...
 
7:30 AM
BBL
Wish me luck
dualbooting windows
 
@AmithKK: Windows 8?
 
Looks like this user wagner-tiff may be spamming in answers. Can someone else check the links and see if they are not just windows demos or I am going a bit crazy.
well, crazier, I guess.
 
It's just spam or irrelevant!
 
7:46 AM
Cool. Thanks. I just happened to catch both go through the review queue at once and thought I was having a bit of deja vu for a sec. ;-)
 
spam cleaned up.
 
8:03 AM
yay
 
 
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9:04 AM
@IgnitE XP
gotta get 8 from my friends
 
9:18 AM
@AmithKK we get it for free :P
I mean the legal one!
 
9:32 AM
How comes Windows 8 is illegal?
 
> YOU SHALL NOT PISS!
XD
 
:D
 
Thou shalt not use 8 when thou has Ubuntu!
 
Yes, why would you @AmithKK? :P
 
@IgnitE Just to check it out
It's good to keep eyes on competition
 
9:36 AM
o.O
 
Keeping eyes on is not using it - its probably ok then.
 
22 hours ago, by mojo706
:) Nice thinking now to get them interested. Know anyone with clout?
I reask this to you guys
 
Nope! I'm not much into gaming!
 
9:57 AM
BBL
 
10:09 AM
need help, unity launcher, top panel, window borders missing
 
7
Q: Window-borders disappears in Unity

adityavpratapRecently I found that window borders keep disappearing intermittently in Unity! Especially when either Google Chrome or Mozilla Thunderbird are running. Is there a way out?

 
thanks, but its not only the borders but the top panel and launcher as well
unity --reset doesn't work
 
what version of ubuntu?
 
12.10
hi foss
 
hi - you need the 12.10 version of unity --reset ... askubuntu.com/questions/17610/…
 
10:18 AM
problem is i can't connect to the internet cos i dont see the network applet on the to panel/notification area
 
go to tty1 - do via command line
connect via wired
 
i am connecting via broadband and i don't know how to connect via text console or terminal
 
is this some-sort of mobile broadband connection that you need to login to start? Connecting direct via a wired connection is sufficient.
 
yes
i dont have wire connection
 
you have another account on your computer to login to?
 
10:21 AM
i booted into windows now since i cannot use my ubuntu
yes but same problem on all accounts even guest
the top panel appears on the login screen though
only thing I can do is Ctrl+Alt+F1
yes but same problem on all accounts even guest
 
unity --reset will not help for all accounts - you've got a more fundamental issue :(
 
it only happened today, i've been on quantal since it was released
:((
 
have you recently done any updates?
 
yes the software updater prompted me to install updates
 
try booting with an older kernel.
 
10:27 AM
okay will do, thank you
 
10:41 AM
booted with 3.5.0-17 same problem
 
yuk - then either graphics or another package that you have recently installed. What graphics card are you using?
 
i don't know...:) how do i check?
 
did you install any drivers via the "additional drivers" window or is this a vanilla install?
 
no i didnt
what's vanilla?
i have not launched the additional drivers window
 
run lspci -nn | grep VGA on TTY1
 
10:47 AM
will have to do that later, i'm on windows now
 
vanilla means a simple install with no real changes - no PPAs, no special drivers etc.
 
:((
 
... or its time to dig out that recent backup I am sure you have been regularly doing...
 
i might have to try another desktop environment
no this isn't a vanilla install
 
what other DEs have you got installed - yes - this is a good bet as well.
 
10:49 AM
none
lol, i might have to reinstall then
 
if you cannot connect to the internet via TTY1 - then - yes, it will be quicker - hopefully you dont have much data - just command line copy onto a USB drive.
 
i hate reinstalling, i have like 200GB of data to transfer and I'd have to reinstall my fave programs...:(((
 
backups!
 
I can copy data to my external HD but the programs how do I back them up?
 
this should get you there: askubuntu.com/questions/9135/…
 
10:57 AM
great, thanks a lot
will do that
bbl
 
11:16 AM
I was skimming the thread regarding Python 3.3 as default for 13.04. What is the final decision?
 
11:39 AM
Does anyone have any experience with Kubuntu vs. Mint KDE? Any major differences worth knowing about?
 
yeah - they changed the wallpaper
on the wrong forum for that question.
 
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Q: Should a question not have at least as many upvotes as answers?

PrivateThe hover-over message of the upvote button on a question is: This question shows research effort; it is useful and clear. For me that is sort of the same as saying this question can be answered. Based solely on this sentence, I am often surprised to see questions without upvotes but with...

 
11:54 AM
Ah, because Mint isn't an official derivative? My bad.
 
12:18 PM
@skunkfrukt yep - best ask on Unix & Linux.
 
I guess it's silly, but what does OP refer to?
 
@IgnitE Original post(er)?
 
oh! mystery solved :)
 
@fossfreedom Will do. I still tend to lump the two together (for obvious reasons), which is useful on Google, but less so on a forum specifically about official derivatives. :-P
 
 
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1:54 PM
OK did unity-tweak-tool went in the repos
 
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