The Bridge

6:00 PM

@kalina I can see that, honestly, but there's no review queue or equivalent for questions that have been closed for too long and should be deleted.

Anna Lear

@kalina yeah, that's my only objection too. Since askers can't even see their own deleted questions (which we should really fix one of these days...).

badp

The problem here is that we haven't been deleting those questions - even past the point of the speculation issue not being an issue anymore, at which point we haven't been reopening the questions either.

kalina

@badp well then the solution is to make a mso post asking for one, rather than performing actions like deleting stuff without the user realising why

badp

@kalina The user realizes why because comments from moderators stick out in their inbox if the moderator also deletes the post.

(Non mods may want to flag)

kalina

they get a moderator post to their inbox?

user15026

6:01 PM

@AnnaLear Yeah, that would be a nice thing to have fixed.

Anna Lear

@badp The length of what's visible in the inbox is very limited and they can't click through to read the whole comment because the question link will 404.

badp

@AnnaLear I thought the inbox link would go to their responses tab when they can see the comment in full length.

kalina

@AshleyNunn yeah this would be an alternative

Anna Lear

@badp no, it goes to the post.

badp

@AnnaLear Well that's a bug.

Anna Lear

6:02 PM

@badp That's debatable.

kalina

well if users can't see the full reason something has been deleted, we shouldn't immediately delete anything ever

it's not a good user experience

badp

@AnnaLear It's a bug that you have moderator comments remain on the inbox because posts 404 for them and then you send them to the 404 post anyway.

Anna Lear

@badp I think the real bug there is that people's own questions 404.

badp

I think it's time for science, because I'm fairly certain about the inbox thing.

SaintWacko

@badp Is @badp'ssockpuppet going to write a bad question?

kalina

6:04 PM

@AnnaLear I agree that deleted questions should be visible to the person whose question it was

kinda like how it works with answers

badp

@SaintWacko yeah.

SaintWacko

@kalina That would certainly make sense

badp

If I can find the tablet

user15026

user15026

I have no idea why that amuses me so much

Anna Lear

6:07 PM

I wonder if that's actually in Canada. I'm pretty sure the last "meanwhile in Canada" image I saw was actually a photo of Japan :P

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Jeez, that would be cold.

kalina

very cold

user15026

@AnnaLear Yeah I have no idea.

badp

@AnnaLear You are correct - and the comment doesn't even show up in the responses tab

I'll set sail to MSO then

GnomeSlice

QUESTION INCOMING

Anna Lear

6:09 PM

@badp Godspeed. :)

user15026

@badp If you don't return, can I have your rep? XD

2

badp

@AshleyNunn Are you sure you want to... uhhhh... merge with me??

5

GnomeSlice

@AshleyNunn Where have I seen this today.

user15026

@badp ooh baby

GnomeSlice

...Somewhere

badp

6:12 PM

At any rate 97 characters isn't "very limited"

it's "limited" but better than I'd have expected

MBraedley

@SaintWacko What do you mean? Are they still slightly under powered? yes

Anna Lear

It's still pretty limited. it's not impossible, but it's hard to fit a reasonable explanation in 97 chars. Depends on how terse you want to be, I suppose.

badp

"Sorry, we don't do speculation about future console releases. Please ask again when both are avai..."

OrigamiRobot

@Fluttershy Why are you taking targets away from @GnomeSlice?

SaintWacko

@MBraedley There was a bug where they had a tendency to veer off the runway

GnomeSlice

6:14 PM

@OrigamiRobot What?

badp

it's not terribly helpful, I agree

MBraedley

@SaintWacko Oh that. Yeah, they can still do that

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice He killed the skeleton I set up for you.

kalina

@badp glad we agree

badp

It's still a broken window that needs fixing somehow

GnomeSlice

6:15 PM

@OrigamiRobot Oh. Conclave

Anna Lear

@badp If we destroy the user right away, there's nothing to worry about... ;)

SaintWacko

@AnnaLear If you're going to look on it as a limited length comment, the problem is it doesn't say there's a limit

@AnnaLear Destroying users solves all the problems

2

badp

Also I'm having trouble looking for the meta question where the feature was announced

Anna Lear

@SaintWacko That's really just a side-effect of how the global inbox displays stuff. There isn't a good way to display that in the specific scenario where you are a moderator leaving a comment on the question that you will delete later.

We'd need a crystal ball for that.

badp

I guess meta.stackoverflow.com/q/133729/13992 is close enough

Anna Lear

6:17 PM

@badp which one, that comments made by mods will stick around in the inbox?

badp

@AnnaLear yeah

Anna Lear

@badp that one's a pain. it's in an answer somewhere... hold on.

OrigamiRobot

Maaaaaaaannnnn I have to pay taxes this year? Lame.

Anna Lear

wait, no. I'm thinking of "this answer was converted to a comment". Different feature entirely.

48

Q: I'm a moderator dealing with a user asking a question in an answer, what do I do?

In the moderator queue I see a lot of not an answer flags. Mostly, these are users (mostly new ones) writing questions as answers. How can I best handle this when it's a good question? I want to leave a comment, but deleting the answer also removes the comment and item from their inbox. The w...

Behold my MSO searching skills.

badp

@AnnaLear I am amazed. I also notice how the feature request is conveniently about answers

Fluttershy

6:21 PM

@AshleyNunn ThinkGeek has a replica of the iron throne for $30k.

Anna Lear

That is the more common use case. (Or at least it was at the time.)

SaintWacko

@AnnaLear There could be something where when you delete it, it has a screen asking you to leave a comment for the user, and limits it to 97 characters

kalina

@SaintWacko the better solution is to just let the user bypass the 10k requirement on their own questions

Anna Lear

@SaintWacko Probably not gonna happen like that - in the vast majority of cases you don't want to leave a comment (or you left it already cause that workflow makes a lot more sense).

kalina

you can't be anything other than straight to the point in 97 chars

SaintWacko

6:22 PM

@kalina Yeah, that would be best

I'm just going off the idea of limiting delete comments to 97 chars, but just letting them see their own question would work far better

kalina

you can't explain why the action is being taken in 97 chars, it's not helpful

Lazers

0

Q: Civilization 5 keeps crashing - invalid reference

Looking in the logs files specifically Database.log, I keep seeing this error: [417084.850] constraint failed [417084.850] While executing - 'INSERT INTO ArtDefine_StrategicView(StrategicViewType, TileType, Asset) VALUES(?,?,?)' [417094.444] no such table: ContentPackage.LocalizedText [417097.47...

civilization-5

0

Q: Does storm hit under dark swarm?

I just wonder what effects does a storm from Templar has under a spell cast by a dark swarm cast by defiler. Does it deal any damage at all? is the damage reduced. I wanted to test it myself but its hard to control 2 races at once with both of the abilities researched.

starcraft

0

Q: how can i recalibrate my wiimote sword position while fighting?

In skyward sword when I'm trying to strike my sword in the desired directions often it seems that the calibration has gone out of whack, so when I'm trying to strike left-to-right I end up just flailing around randomly. With other weapons you point the Wiimote towards the screen and press the d...

zelda-skyward-sword

0

Q: What Does the 'Chrono Gear' do?

I just came across a part I haven't seen before: the Chrono Gear I stuck it on the back of my ship so I could bring it back to base, but I have no idea what it does. Anybody know?

captain-jameson captain-successor

0

Q: Can't find Tomlin in Dragon's Dogma

I'm running around Cassardis looking for Tomlin for the An Innocent Man quest. However, Tomlin just can't be found - anywhere! I've run around for about an hour and checked every single building, slept twice to see if he's around at night, but the little bugger just doesn't want to be found! ...

dragons-dogma

user15026

@Fluttershy Yeah, but I suspect I can afford Oathbreaker a little easier

MBraedley

How often does @Lazers post about new questions?

kalina

@MBraedley when it wants to

fbueckert

6:29 PM

@MBraedley About once an hour or so.

kalina

@fbueckert it's more frequent than that I think

Fluttershy

@AshleyNunn Perhaps.

kalina

probably on a 30 minute timer or so

badp

@AnnaLear Go forth and downvote

You could close and delete immediately but I have 10k rep

so the irony would be kind of lost

Anna Lear

I could suspend you first.

badp

6:32 PM

(yay precious meta reps!)

@AnnaLear That would work... temporarily.

Anna Lear

@badp On MSO? You're diamondless there. So it'd work for up to 5000 days or until I got fired. ;)

badp

@AnnaLear Yeah, well, that's still temporarily

Anna Lear

True enough.

badp

If you wanted something more definitive I suggest deleting the account outright.

From orbit.

With a nuke.

Anna Lear

Although surprisingly most folks don't tend to see year+ suspensions as "temporary". I'm not sure what that's about.

@badp nah, you could recreate it right away.

badp

6:34 PM

@AnnaLear hm, good point.

kalina

@AnnaLear they aren't really temporary, I mean they're technically temporary but a year is a long time

badp

@AnnaLear That's silly, everybody knows year+ suspensions are actually sockpuppet creation requests

Anna Lear

@kalina I'm being at least somewhat sarcastic. :)

badp

It's like you activated HARD MODE.

With Stack Exchange STEALTH MECHANICS.

kalina

@AnnaLear understood

badp

6:36 PM

And when the suspension is over and you made it to the end of the period without being detected, then you get merged and resuspended.

for maximum sadism.

It's like I'm DIGGING my own GRAVE.

fbueckert

Wee! It's still snowing outside!

And it's getting colder!

fredley

There's a new close reason?

badp

@fredley You're confusing me

fredley

@badp I'm consfuesed

badp

@fredley ARE YOU TRYING TO CONFUSE ME?

fredley

6:50 PM

@badp No

badp

Oh okay.

Wait no, now I'm more confused.

@fredley CLOSED as "Confuses badp"

5

Oliver Salzburg

1

Q: Make a permanent exception for Steam's BuildBot in Windows 7 UAC

I'm using Windows 7 64-bit. I am the only user of the computer, although I do have a password-protected backup account. I have not disabled UAC, nor do I wish to. I also use Steam (unfortunately). The first time I run any newly-installed Steam game, I'm asked whether I wish to give the Steam Bui...

windows-7 security uac steam

MBraedley

mmm grilled cheeeeese

Oliver Salzburg

Did a question like that ever come up on Arqade?

fredley

@MBraedley Well jel

badp

6:53 PM

@OliverSalzburg It hasn't. We'd probably shove it your way anyway

Oliver Salzburg

@badp Heheh, okay thanks :)

Lazers

0

Q: How can I upgrade the L1 resonators on my faction's portal to L2?

Today I found a portal owned by my faction that had a full house of 8 L1 resonators. I have a couple L2 resonators in my item inventory and wanted to deploy one. From the portal's main actions screen I selected Upgrade. From there I was shown a close up of the existing resonators that I could cyc...

ingress

GnomeSlice

IE Market Share vs US Murder Rate http://i.imgur.com/47D7zGq.png

Tweeted by bcardarella on January 19, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Ullallulloo

Is this NaA?

GnomeSlice

11

Ronan Forman

7:00 PM

@fredley Do you want to help my friend with a Mc video?

fredley

@RonanForman Yeah, what's required?

Can't play now, but can in 30 mins or so

@GnomeSlice I just starred something GnomeSlice posted. Non-passive-aggresively

badp

@fredley SHOCK and HORROR.

fredley

@badp Quite

@RonanForman What's the verdict?

OrigamiRobot

So much horrible ASCII

Please just use screenshots people.

SaintWacko

Damnit, Steam

Ronan Forman

7:07 PM

@fredley We're hopefully going to be done before then, but I'll ask again at 7:20 if we're still not done.

fredley

@RonanForman Ok, probably not ready then but I'll let you know

SaintWacko

Why do you insist on pausing my downloads when I'm playing a game?

And why is there no option to disable that?!

Raven Dreamer

@badp Tell your sockpuppet to stop spaming my inbox with lorem ipsums!

CruelCow

@SaintWacko You can't disable it. But if you launch a game and then manually pause & resume it'll keep downloading

Ullallulloo

Is this "Not an Answer"?

badp

7:08 PM

@RavenDreamer Did I mention I hate my sockpuppet?

I'm fairly certain I did

SaintWacko

@CruelCow Yeah, I know, but I never remember to do that

It's such a stupid "feature"

badp

(seriously thuogh - meta.stackoverflow.com/q/164295/13992 is the reason of that Lorem Ipsum)

Raven Dreamer

I need to make "DravenReamer" or something. All the cool kids are doing it.

badp

@RavenDreamer uh, I wasn't aware Gnomeslice was cool, or a kid.

Raven Dreamer

@badp You have a scok puppet, Agent86 has one (I think?) Juan was talking about making one...

badp

7:11 PM

uh, I didn't know about Agent's. I use mine exclusively for SCIENCE.

It's also rather obvious that it's mine.

Unlike other sockpuppets.

My sockpuppet is so successful, I recently had to make a sockpuppet sockpuppet to try what happens in an edge editing case with 1 rep users.

The difference is I can merge my sockpuppet with my sockpuppet sockpuppet, but I can't merge my sockpuppet with me.

I'm sure that's approximately 500% more information than you needed and 490% more information than you cared about

fredley

7:37 PM

@RonanForman Available now

Ronan Forman

@fredley Do you have skype?

fredley

@RonanForman Yes, I think...

Installing

Slowness...

For historical reasons, my username is bangalore.tom

Fuck this is a slow installer

kalina

8:04 PM

woo I am home

snow can't stop me from going out having fun!

kalina

8:19 PM

I have bought myself a new toy

Anna Lear

oh?

kalina

Anna Lear

those are nice :) or so I hear.

kalina

now I can drink all of the hot chocolate in the world

without leaving my desk

Anna Lear

it's sort of amazing how much innovation is driven by our desire to not get up :P

3

kalina

8:21 PM

lol

badp

https://soundcloud.com/alacrion/joco-v-glee

Fluttershy

@kalina I have something like that. It's not called Tossimo though. <_<

badp

@Fluttershy I think that's an "a"

Also, nothing beats this:

(I'll admit loading the coffee powder in that thing isn't exactly my favourite part)

kalina

@badp mine uses capsules

I just put one inside and press a button

badp

@kalina That and the speed are definitely bonuses.

(we have a machine very much like that one.)

(Still... we exhausted the supply of capsules the machine came with and pretty much never touched it again.)

Fluttershy

8:35 PM

That's what I use.

kalina

now I just need one of these and my life is complete:

Anna Lear

I use... a $12 drip coffee maker. but I grind my own beans. Does that count for anything?

OrigamiRobot

I don't even have a coffee maker.

badp

@AnnaLear Probably. It's just not what we Italians call coffee. :)

Anna Lear

@badp "Hot caffeinated water" still does the job ;)

badp

8:39 PM

I'm not saying we're right and you're wrong, although I might be implying it somehow :P

I mean, I guess it's kind of like the way Russians prefer their superalcoholics? :P

Anna Lear

>.>

Actually, I'm doing that wrong too. I prefer beer.

Ben Brocka

@Fluttershy got one of those too, I like it. I need more decaff stuff for it though, since I mostly use it at home, after work

badp

Beer is definitely agreeable.

I hated it at first because I was used to wine and beer was... unbearably sparkly, and then I got used to it.

Fluttershy

@BenBrocka I can't drink decaf... <_< It defeats the purpose of drinking coffee.

badp

@BenBrocka I'm not sure I understand what's the point of this

OrigamiRobot

8:43 PM

@Fluttershy Which is?

Fluttershy

@OrigamiRobot Caffeine.

OrigamiRobot

@Fluttershy Caffeine does nothing to me.

I drink coffee because I like the taste and it's hot.

At night, it makes me sleepy.

badp

@OrigamiRobot You're a robot, at best it slightly rots your circuits

I only drink coffee before a long drive or "ritually" on Sunday lunches

(...or when I'm desperately fighting sleep, but it's not super effective)

Ben Brocka

@Fluttershy I drink decaff, especially decaff tea, at night. And I'm usually up too late to brew anything before work. And work coffee is an abomination

@badp generating guns, it would seem. Looks like you pick the parts which compose the gun to see the stats

OrigamiRobot

@badp This would be counterproductive for me.

badp

8:45 PM

@BenBrocka Yeah, but it's not like the game lets you actually build guns.

OrigamiRobot

MOD ABUSE

Ben Brocka

@badp save editors do, plus you can recognize certain parts to see how well what does what

badp

@BenBrocka uhhh...

I guess that's slightly more useful than knowing what a level 1 Hellfire looks like.

Ben Brocka

It also lets you see which parts are required on legendaries (meaning how much the parts can vary)

Lazers

9:01 PM

0

Q: How do I replay current chapter from beginning?

So there was an unfortunate checkpoint placement in the chapter about chasing down Lilly (after seeing her through the glass disembarking from the dropship) where a you jump onto a big rotating metal platform and I missed the jump. The game saved mid-jump and reloading results in me dying continu...

syndicate

kalina

ooOOOoo

you can get twinnings fruit tea things for this

Ullallulloo

We Decide to transfer $500,000 us dollars as personal donation to you. Do email Mr Allen Large for more details via this email { [redacted] }.

wut?

I just got that email from a upenn.edu address.

And it got through gmail's spam filter.

kalina

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326473/…

somehow doubt they're associated with the University of Pennsylvania

Ullallulloo

@kalina How likely is it that their email address is at a Chinese domain name consisting of random numbers?

kalina

@Ullallulloo even more unlikely lol

fredley

9:19 PM

0

Q: What's so special about bread?

Why is bread highlighted? It's not lit any differently to the other barrels.

minecraft minecraft-redpower

Lazers

9:31 PM

0

Q: How far can a unit upgrade itself through finding ruins?

Units can be upgraded through finding advanced weaponry in ruins. How far ahead of the current technology level can they be upgraded? If I found enough ruins, could I theoretically have a mechanized infantry in the first age?

civilization-5

0

Q: What's so special about bread?

Why is bread highlighted? It's not lit any differently to the other barrels.

minecraft minecraft-factorization

0

Q: Help completing Asphalt duel races

I'm just 3 points away from completing Career mode in Asphalt 6 on the iPhone, but am having trouble with 2 races. Chamonix duel in Pro Nitro Series Moscow duel in Asphalt Final Cup I believe I have to win by at least 12 seconds to come first (getting 3 stars), which is exceedingly difficult,...

ios

Gaming Topics From Outside

9:43 PM

0

Q: What MAME UI frontends are available for Ubuntu 12.10?

I have installed Mame via SDLmame but have so far failed to successfully install any decent GUI that enables categorisation of games, favouriting, or preview screenshots. I have many hundreds of ROMs. Gnome Video Arcade will not read my ROMs from an external hard drive, even when they have been...

12.10 games gui lightning

badp

hrm

Anybody that has basic understanding of Javascript should be able to tell me why this isn't working.

damageMultipliers = {
  none: {
    pt1: {
      flesh: 1,
      hull: 0.8,
      shield: 1
    },
    pt2: this.pt1
  },
  slag: this.none
};

fredley

@RonanForman youtube.com/watch?v=X9eVAnMGrC4

badp

both damageMultipliers["none"]["pt2"] and damageMultipliers["slag"] give undefined.

yes it would be faster to copy paste but this is so basic, I refuse to go any further without understanding what's going on

StrixVaria

I think you might not be able to reference things this way. Since "none" and "slag" are being defined at the same time, "this.none" doesn't exist when it's first evaluated.

I'm not 100% on that, but it's my guess.

badp

@StrixVaria ...eergh

kalina

9:52 PM

@StrixVaria makes sense to me, I was about to say "because they're not defined until after the last };"

badp

I mean, yeah, moving the assignment outside the object definition works

it still really scares me that I can't use parts of an object as I build it?!

wtf?

StrixVaria

That whole line is one assignment, so it's all evaluated at once.

There's no semicolon for it to pause and remember things.

badp

(I'm actually writing this in Coffeescript so I don't control where semicolons go or don't go in the converted Javascript)

Ronan Forman

@fredley Your barrels seem okay to me.

fredley

@RonanForman You on?

Ronan Forman

10:01 PM

@fredley Yeah.

Lazers

0

Q: Can I re-battle the other Mega Men in any way?

I can easily refight all the Pseudoroids like Bifrost, Chronoforce and Buckfire by going back to where they spawned as bosses, but is there any way to fight the other Megamen like Aeolus and Atlas? Going back to where they were doesn't work, and they're not part of the Boss Rush in the final area...

megaman-zx-advent

fredley

@RonanForman V disappointed no rotary macerator

Ronan Forman

@fredley Do we not have advanced machines?

fredley

@RonanForman Apparently not

Induction furnace, but no others

Ronan Forman

@fredley Induction furnace is vanilla IC2.

Also DW is adding extra bees!

fredley

10:03 PM

wat

don't get bees

what do they even do?

Ronan Forman

10:17 PM

@fredley You should really build a mass fabricator.

fredley

@RonanForman Yeah, that's next on the list

@RonanForman How much power do they eat?

Ronan Forman

@fredley Quite a bit.

Luke

insert coin

fredley

@RonanForman How many geos should I hook up?

MBraedley

@fredley @RonanForman I want to try out Marked Man. Any chance we can do that tomorrow?

fredley

10:26 PM

@MBraedley Yup

Wait, when?

Probz can't do until late evening

Ronan Forman

@MBraedley I'm making a brand new version for 1.5 atm, I could probably get a version ready for tomorrow.

MBraedley

As in around 1800UTC? That's fine by me

@RonanForman I can run a snapshot if necessary.

Ronan Forman

@MBraedley You'd have to.

badp

uhhh

  hits: (accuracy_adjusting = (x) -> 1, #error: unexpected ','
         recoil_malus = 0) ->
    Math.random() < accuracy_adjusting(@accuracy/100) + recoil_malus

  dps: (playthrough = "pt2",
        referencetime = 60,
        accuracy_adjusting = (x) -> 1, #just fine
        recoil_adjust = false) ->
    time = 0 #etc.

wat

  hits: (
         accuracy_adjusting = (x) -> 1, #also just fine
         recoil_malus = 0) ->
    Math.random() < accuracy_adjusting(@accuracy/100) + recoil_malus

OrigamiRobot

10:43 PM