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6:00 PM
@RonanForman Are these clips you gave me in widescreen?
They are, right?
 
@GnomeSlice I think so.
 
Alright.
Ergh, I haven't used Premiere in like two years...
 
Yeah, I switched to widescreen before we started the channel.
 
@RonanForman Well, I took a Dungeon Defenders video from the old channel too, but I just wanted to make sure it's the same aspect as the other clips.
 
@badp No, not quite like that
 
6:03 PM
@GraceNote I just quoted their trailer on Youtube
Sounded pretty odd.
 
mk2
 
@badp Neptunia is a not-so-subtle play on "Piracy is bad, m'kay?"
 
@fbueckert uh
 
I mean, really. The end boss is "Arfoire", for crying out loud.
 
Godammit Premiere...
y u no let me change frame size...
There we go.
Wrong preset
 
6:07 PM
Okay, the trailer failed spectacularly to convey this much about the game
Shows me about checking youtube before wikipedia!
 
@RonanForman Buh, wish you'd recorded this with your HUD hidden.
 
@GnomeSlice Why would I have done that?
 
@RonanForman You wouldn't have, that's the thing.
It's fine.
Maybe I'll just record some more later. Or I can just use this.
I don't feel like finishing the project any more x_x
 
Anti-piracy is more of a setting for the game than a message from the game.
 
@badp They're fun games, though.
 
6:12 PM
wtf. Does FTL actually have a demo? I'm fairly certain I've played something precisely like that in the past but their website shows nothing
I say 'wtf' because I remember not having much fun with the game either.
 
@GnomeSlice No, not at all.
 
@badp There was an Onlive beta demo way back when.
 
@fbueckert That's probably that then.
lol, how much time is Apple wasting on iTunes now. I can guess the audience must be snoozing now
 
Oh, is there a livestream of an Apple show or something going on?
 
6:20 PM
Yeah.
They announced the iPhone 5, the new and still bloated iTunes and now the iPod nano
...with widescreen video
 
@badp Eh. It's apple.
 
@badp They really need to start coming up with new names.
 
@GnomeSlice I'm just surprised that after "the new iPad" you still have "iPhone 5"
why wasn't "the new iPad" worthy of getting a number?
 
I wonder when all the Mac fanboys will wake up and realize that buying a new device every year can't be sustained forever.
 
@fbueckert I'm just sad that of all the companies it's Apple that it's in the lead in pretty much all ways at least when it comes to mobile devices
 
6:24 PM
@badp Android is getting pretty popular.
 
Android is only the core of the phone
 
@GnomeSlice I read a neat article on the class divide between Apple users and Android users.
 
It took Google to make a great Android tablet. And after the Windows Phone 7 disaster, Microsoft trusts their OEMs so much they did the flagship Windows 8 tablet in house
 
@fbueckert So did I, although I suspect it's not the same one you read
 
@fbueckert Oh, it certainly sustains Apple
 
6:26 PM
@GraceNote That's what I mean; it sustains the company, but buying a new device each and every year is stupid. It's overkill of the "Keeping up with the Joneses" principle.
 
And yet it works
 
@GraceNote for now.
People have it right when they call it the Apple Tax.
 
user2334
@fbueckert Your first problem is that you believe the only people buying new Apple devices every year are the people who bought them the last year
 
just, what I find sad is that they only talk about the prices with contract. No one says the actual price of the top-tier device is like $999
 
@MarkTrapp That's going to be the predominant market, I would expect.
 
user2334
6:28 PM
Boggles my mind that people seriously believe a company with the largest market cap by a couple of hundred billion dollars hasn't grown its audience in at least 5 years
 
@fbueckert I think enough of humanity is stupid enough that this will continue to work for the same reason that people will blow thousands of real-world dollars for the chance to possibly get a digital good in a game.
 
@MarkTrapp It boggles my mind that such a company still needs to boast about its growth rate too
"OH WOW WE WENT FROM 0 TO ELEVENTY THAT'S A BAJILLION PERCENT INCREASE TAKE THAT PC"
 
@GraceNote Sounds like you've got a story behind that.
One I'd like to read.
 
user2334
@badp Really? You seriously think only Apple talks about its growth figures? And no other public company? Do you live under a rock?
 
@fbueckert I think she's talking about uncrating unusual hats in TF2
@MarkTrapp Apple's the only one I care about to read about these boring liveblogs (because streaming video is like too tinkery or sumthin'). They should feel honored
 
6:31 PM
@fbueckert Not like it's a major story, but simply put - some games use a chance-based system for acquiring in-game goods (slot machine, capsule machine, etc.). Some times these cost real world money. And some people will dump hundreds or thousands of dollars to get something in it.
 
@GraceNote Those are the games I avoid like the plague. If real money is required to get stuff, I don't play it at all.
I'm not a fan of the microtransaction gaming model.
 
user2334
@badp Talking about growth is a cornerstone of a company's fiduciary disclosure to its shareholders. Every public company talks about how it's attempting to make more money
 
user2334
Welcome to capitalism
 
@fbueckert Well, you could save up in-game money to buy the real-world-money. But my point was more, "There exist people who will dump this much for a digital good in a game with an unstable fate. That people will continue to buy Apple products yearly or more frequently does not surprise me"
 
@MarkTrapp which is why they said "significantly faster" without quoting numbers, then, I guess. (live.arstechnica.com/apple-september-2012-event-its-almost-here/…)
@GraceNote oh, so it's even worse than TF2 crates? oh wow.
 
6:34 PM
@badp Oh, oh yeah, even worse
 
@GraceNote Sounds like I need to make a video game that offers digital goods for scads of cash.
 
@fbueckert You are too late. DragonVale FTW!
 
Problem is, I hate, absolutely loathe, even, games that prey on basic psychological mechanics to addict users.
 
Problem is, I hate the idea of spending $60 on a game
 
Random sidenote: I need a game that combines resource logistics with city building. Or other management stuff.
 
6:37 PM
If there are enough nutters to make a game free for those who don't care about hats, then I'll take microtransactions all day
 
user2334
@badp And that has to do with financial growth, how? Might as well just stop dressing it up and say "LOL I H8 APPLE! :)"
 
@MarkTrapp I thought I had made that clear from the get-go. :P
 
@MarkTrapp What has financial growth have to do with anything anyway, that's not a financial report, it's a keynote to wow the world with the shiny magic
 
@badp Wait until you see these people who burn $200 every two weeks
 
user2334
@badp Because the media will report the numbers which in turn sates the markets. I'm not saying it's manipulatory, because it totally is; I'm just disputing your claim that this is somehow something only Apple does. Every company jumps at a chance to talk about its positive growth metrics.
 
user2334
6:41 PM
Just look at Amazon's event from last week. "Blah blah blah Kindle best-selling item in the Amazon store blah blah blah more books sold than Gutenberg"
 
@MarkTrapp Oh, sure, absolutely. It's just I'm sure Apple has got better metrics on their side than that
as a market leader and whatnot
 
user2334
@badp Maybe I missed something: there's a difference between saying a device is significantly faster without providing benchmarks and providing growth metrics like "there are N apps in the App Store". The former is to sell devices to users, the latter is to sell the company to the financial markets.
 
user2334
But I didn't see them not mention at least basic benchmarks for the devices ("up to 2 times faster", "up to 4 times faster", etc.)
 
user2334
@badp Those links don't work. Can you just quote it?
 
6:48 PM
ars technica fail
> compared to A5, it's 2x faster CPU, 2x faster graphics, 22% smaller, Launch pages 2.1x faster, save images from photo app 1.7x faster, load music app with songs 1.9x faster
 
user2334
16 mins ago, by badp
@MarkTrapp which is why they said "significantly faster" without quoting numbers, then, I guess. (http://live.arstechnica.com/apple-september-2012-event-its-almost-here/#post-144686)
 
user2334
What is that in reference to? ---^
 
@MarkTrapp oh, that's in reference to market growth rate
not speed increase of the CPU. I thought it was clear in context, I'm sorry I failed you.
 
user2334
wat, but I'm fairly certain they did quote specific market growth numbers (live blog endless scrolling is failing me). That's why I interpreted it to be a non sequitur about device metrics
 
@MarkTrapp They gave specific numbers about market share.
At least, that's what Ars Technica quoted
 
user2334
6:55 PM
That still doesn't make any sense. What is significantly faster without quoting numbers?
 
market growth
 
user2334
Of what?
 
Mac
specifically
I think also iPhone, but I've now watching something else now
 
...wow, Market Share talk, too. This gets weirder and weirder in perspective.
Speaking of which, @fbueckert, are you looking forward to Neptunia V?
 
user2334
@badp So you're claiming Ars Technica reported that Apple said "Mac market growth was significantly faster". That sentence doesn't make any sense
 
6:57 PM
@GraceNote There's yet another Neptunia coming out? Since when?
Also, Neptunia V? Where's III and IV?
 
@fbueckert Since a long time ago? It's already out in Japan, came out less than two weeks ago
V is the third game. No, I have no idea why.
 
@MarkTrapp now it's moved off the bottom of the page
 
@GraceNote Huh. Must've missed the press for that.
 
Hasn't been any news of a US release but I have my hopes
 
Personally, I want more Gust games.
 
6:59 PM
@MarkTrapp Pringles are bursting with more flavour!
 
@fbueckert Those don't seem to be slowing in release
 
@GraceNote I'd prefer one that doesn't have a hard time limit on it; I like spending time exploring and farming the crap out of high-quality ingredients.
 
@fbueckert We all would
 
And perhaps a slightly less rigid alchemy system. I want to be able to blow up my lab, dammit!
 
Hehe
 
user2334
7:04 PM
@badp According to the Verge, the only two things said about Macs were that notebooks were #1 in market share for the last 3 months at 27% market share in July and 7M copies of Mountain Lion were downloaded. Perhaps Ars Technica was trying to synthesize a factoid and pressed enter prematurely
 
@MarkTrapp Perhaps.
Although they did mention that figure
 
7:31 PM
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Q: CIV V modding Lua API?

SaysmasterI want to create some simple mods for CIV V. I have already created one that tweaks some values through XML and SQL. What I would like is to make some calculations on each round and apply some modifiers to different values, for instance apply a modifier to a city's production output according to...

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Q: Is it really possible to "catch 'em all"?

C-dizzleSince there are now 649 Pokemon, is it really possible to legitimately catch every single Pokemon from all the generations on one game? Black/White are only limited to 8 boxes on the PC and I don't know if that changes in Black 2/White 2 to hold more. Since you can't trade B/W pokemon back to oth...

 
user2334
7:58 PM
@Lazers Boxes = number of Pokemon game flavors you can link to your copy of Pokemon?
 
@MarkTrapp Boxes as in virtual storage boxes available in game to offload your brood to.
 
user2334
oh, they hold multiple pokemi?
 
...pokemi?
 
@MarkTrapp 30 each
 
user2334
I see
 
8:01 PM
I'm so happy Italian regards all foreign words are invariable (singular and plural are the same)
 
user2334
@badp pokemae? pokemata?
 
@MarkTrapp pokemon[ster]s?
 
user2334
Feh to the normal pluralization I say!
 
Indeed the Italian approach is not pluralizing at all.
 
user2334
by the by all the non-standard pluralizations I used are actually Latin
 
user2334
8:03 PM
I think: pretty sure -ae is Latin. Maybe it's Greek.
 
I don't see how Pokemon would a 2nd declension word
Pokemonum Pokemoni?
 
Pokemodes
Like Octopus
 
-ae is for 1st declension words, guaranteed to be feminine.
(TIL "declension" is a word)
 
Are we really debating pluralization of a video game noun?
 
What are we supposed to do?
 
user2334
8:05 PM
videos game
 
Well I'm happy we're cutting off here because I didn't feel like opening my Latin dictionary to find out what's the latin word for Monster.
...or accepting the fact that I don't remember jack shit about the 3rd declension.
 
user2334
It's monstrum, which is where the English words monstrous and monster come from
 
user2334
Plural is monstri
 
user2334
I WAS CLOSE
 
user2334
Pokemonstri
 
user2334
8:11 PM
Or not: there's a bunch of five-buck words that decide what it should be: en.wiktionary.org/wiki/monstrum#Inflection
 
oh, yeah, obviously
it's neuter
so it ends in -a
pokemonstra.
Maybe regular pluralization isn't that bad after all :P
 
user2334
As long as nobody's trying to pass off the plural of virus as virii I'm good
 
8:32 PM
@MarkTrapp But radius -> radii.
 
user2334
Yes.
 
Did Arqade just bork?
 
whoops, guess I shouldn't have pressed that button.
 
@agent86 What button? That button?
 
@badp yeah, yeah, it's cool though. it got better.
sweeps fragments of glass under the rug
 
8:42 PM
@agent86 Are you sure this won't cause that light to start blinking?
Do you remember the last time that happened? I do. It wasn't fun.
 
@badp no! no, no. of course not! WHAT IS THAT OVER THERE? throws blanket over status panel
 
Why did you do this to us, agent?
 
@agent86 Uh, funny, this blinkenlight lit up. "WARNING LED COVERED BY BLANKET"
 
@GraceNote Uh, what? I cough didn't do anything. No idea what you're talking about :)
@badp probably just one of those "check engine" lights on your car that goes off every 30,000 miles or whatever. no biggie.
I... just remembered, very important meeting. very. I'm very late for it. agent zoom
 
Agent zoom? Since when is that a thing?
 
8:47 PM
@badp since I got my stackexchange-branded jetpack.
the t-shirt was nice, but the jetpack was sweeeeet
 
You do know we have an override switch on those, right?
It doesn't stop the functionality of it, though. It just activates a tracer beacon that attracts air sharks.
 
@GraceNote air... sharks... this sounds bad.
my air-shark insurance is lapsed, too :(
it was a choice between paying that bill and paying for my land-piranha insurance, and well, I hate piranhas.
 
hands agent a bat It's dangerous. Here, take this.
 
@fbueckert COMBO BREAKER
Seriously, though, look how many blue posts in a row.
 
9:07 PM
Where's @RonanForman when you need him.
Why are there so many mods here? Did I do something?
 
9:27 PM
@StrixVaria I killed chat there for a bit.
 
@Gnome I don't know, he was around here earlier
 
@RonanForman I need your drawing skills.
Can you draw the front of an arcade cabinet to match that shape?
 
I wont be able to upload anything for a while.
 
Just like... the black bit around the screen, and the face of the unit
@RonanForman Oh?
 
@Gnome It's late so I can't do anything today and I'm in school tomorrow.
 
@RonanForman No problem, I'll see what I can come up with. It's probably not a whole lot of work, given how little of the frame you can see outside the screen
 
I can do it, just I'll take a while.
 
@fbueckert Lol.
 
Yet one more reason that buying Blizzard games is less likely.
 
9:41 PM
8 plays, 1 download, and 0 ratings.
Nice.
@RonanForman It's just going to be like this
except you won't get to see like... anything.
 
I've still got that model I think.
 
@RonanForman I don't want 3D
...Or maybe I do.
Because I still have the model too.
...No, I don't want 3D
 
Okay.
Do you basically want that black area filled in?
 
I can probably do it myself, I'm just mentally exhausted right now.
From working on this.
@RonanForman Yeah.
 
Should it overlap at all?
 
9:46 PM
@RonanForman Over the grey part? No.
But around the screen is going to be black anyway, no?
...Is this link dead for anyone else?
 
I'll get it done for you tomorrow then.
 
I noticed my installed version wasn't working any more, and when I tried to re-download it... the link doesn't work.
Can someone confirm that that link is dead?
 
Seems to be.
 
Wow.
I was using Orbit YESTERDAY
 
9:58 PM
Heh. Defender's Quest devs have a sense of humor.
 
Ah man, the summoner is going to be impossible to play with a gamepad, isn't he...
 
Last Endless challenge map is a Cactuar.
 
Tonberry > Cactuar
 
Bah, you can't do some things in DD with a gamepad
Man, the summoner sucks.
Shouldn'ta bought it
 
10:16 PM
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Q: What are the negative effects of using a weapon type that you don't have a skill in?

user31982I've found weapons that I'm not specced into that seem to be significant upgrades to what I have. What kind of negative effects are associated with wielding a weapon you aren't skilled with?

 
10:28 PM
LOL
I just had an hilarious fight vs ???
Bold of my 1 up I went to face him with ½ a heart and a blue heart from Scrapular
The chest held Mom's Knife and Chocolate Milk
Additionally I have the Polaroid, so each hit I take at ½ heart shields me for a few seconds, and the Wafer, so I only take ½ heart per hit
I just walked to him and started stabbing, the polaroid kicked in
I get hit, polaroid and scrapular, new blue heart
I get hit again, polaroid
I get hit again and after polaroid fades I go down to my last half heart with ??? in Stage 3
which is when I activate my trap card use the Chariot tarot.
By the time the effect fades I'm just done mopping up the remaining angels.
And that's ??? defeated with ½ heart + 1 blue heart.
(I also had damage at five notches though. Whatever item plus the sign.)
So yeah :D
Just wish I didn't have to leave the d6 behind so early
 
10:44 PM
 
crashes through apple
Only a few hours left to chip in to awesome! kickstarter.com/projects/fangamer/fangamer-retrowear
 
Oh man, the Monk is awesome.
He has both melee and ranged attacks.
 
ahhh it's so hard to play Dungeon Defenders when you have like four heroes.
 
Also, BUCKLE UP.
 
11:17 PM
@badp how did you have part of a heart and a soul heart with ????
 
11:40 PM
@StrixVaria What are you talking about, the Monk is awesome.
 
Warehouse 13 is turning into a who's who of former Star Trek actors in new roles
First Janeway, and now Lt .Data.
 
WTF
I just found a portal gun, and a bunch of TF2 people in Dungeon Defenders...
Holy shit the portal gun is overpowered.
 
@GnomeSlice constant drain so it doesnt last forever
 
Ah... that makes sense, I guess.
 
@RavenDreamer o.O
Brent Spiner is on Warehouse 13!?
 
11:53 PM
Are the TF2 guys pets?
 
@GnomeSlice Yeah, Familiars.
 
@James Do they drain too?
 
@James Latest season, yup
 
@GnomeSlice Familiars work in a completely different manner and depend on the familiar.. Most of them do not take any of your stuff though
 
@James Do the TF2 ones run out?
 
11:55 PM
@GnomeSlice Run out?
 
@James You said the portal gun didn't last forever
Do the TF2 familiars do the same thing?
Also, anybody want to play?
 
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KenI've been playing the Japanese release of Gran Turismo 3 on my PS2. What happens if I take my PS2 memory card, and use it with the American release of GT3? The GT games use an arbitrary "Credits" as money, but they are clearly intended to mimic the local currency, e.g., a car that costs 20,000 ...

 
@GnomeSlice You keep all the items forever.. But like the other guns the portal gun has 'ammo' which is a charge for how long they can keep the portals open.
 
@James ...It actually makes portals? I thought it was just a weapon.
 
It just makes portals
 
11:59 PM
...lol
So... it's useless then
 

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