5:51 AM
ta!
 
Hi!
 
hello ha!
 
Hello.
 
So, where are you from @NortonnS?
 
5:57 AM
am i really free here?
 
Thanks, @Mahnax.
 
Yes, let's start this civilly. We should all introduce ourselves.
 
@NortonnS Your suspension was temporary. Not a ban.
So yes, you are free to speak here.
To an extent.
 
I am a quasi mod on Ask Ubuntu. I just came across that weird question in EL and got curious.
 
Are there any hidden user-agreement here?
 
5:59 AM
@NortonnS Same rules apply: be nice.
 
Yeah, be nice. That's about it, for chat.
 
my socratic reasoning changed you all?
 
@NortonnS None of us have changed.
 
Naw. We got better things to do and thought we could settle matters at once.
 
Personally, I'm just trying to take this from a more calm point of view.
 
6:00 AM
As am I.
 
@NortonnS- We are here to help you.
 
@Mahnax @simchona i'm disappointed. the politically-correct brainwashing will continue i guess.
 
@NortonnS We are all disappointed in you.
 
@NortonnS If you're going to be like that, then I'm sorry we wasted our time
 
Do you mind elaborating?
 
6:01 AM
@NortonnS- It's not about politics.
 
So @NortonnS, where are you from?
Let's be civil.
 
Yes, let's.
Just give us a little more information about yourself.
Perhaps it will help us understand you better.
 
I'm from the US.
 
I'm a Canadian, personally.
Although I am half Finnish.
 
All of you will persevere in brainwashing me, just as I will persevere in resisting. @simchona I am from a communist country.
 
6:03 AM
@NortonnS We're not trying to brainwash you. Let's keep away from politics.
Russia?
 
We have quite a long list of communist countries.
 
china
 
That's cool
 
I have family visiting there. :)
 
My significant other is from there
which province?
 
6:05 AM
@simchona No, China is not cool by any means.
hong kong
 
And so you speak Mandarin, right?
 
well anyway, I am an Indian currently based in Singapore.
 
@simchona mandarin and cantonese
 
@NortonnS Most people only speak one
 
@simchona Actually some people do learn a couple other dialects.
But not very well enough.
 
6:09 AM
@jokerdino That was the impression I got. Mostly one, maybe a bit of another
 
@simchona Most hong kongers only naturally speak cantonese, until the commies arrived.
 
And so what made you want to post porn on ELU?
 
@simchona why not porn?
 
@NortonnS Because this site is meant to be open to people 13 and up. I'm not sure porn fits.
 
@NortonnS My innocent eyes were burning.
 
6:12 AM
It is porn only in the eyes of the beholder; you see whatever you want to see.
 
Philosophical stuff. huh?
Anyway, @NortonnS you are a student or employed currently?
 
employed, just barely.
 
Aww. What do you do for the living then?
 
Hey, what time is it in Hong Kong?
 
government
 
6:18 AM
@NortonnS Do you like it?
 
I have no choice.
 
That's too bad
What time is it there?
You must be enjoying your evening
 
I'm currently in the united states.
 
On business?
 
I live in the united states, as a citizen of the united states.
 
6:22 AM
How can that be, if you work for the Chinese government?
Or did you mean you work for the US government?
 
Well, he never specified that it was the Chinese gov't.
 
I worked for the pre-communist hk government in the early 90's. Now I work the US government.
 
You are not being consistent.
 
I'm not gonna lie you sound like a spy :P at least it sounds like you've had an interesting round of events in your life.
 
A very interest life indeed!
 
6:26 AM
well, never mind that.
 
@NortonnS Do you mind if I give you a little advice about ELU?
 
Since you work for the governments, I think it won't be appropriate for me to ask for your exact designation.
 
@simchona what would that be?
 
@NortonnS I know you want answers to your questions, but you don't need to post them again and again. Just improve the first one using edits
 
i have to leave to meet up someone. I be back later.
 
6:28 AM
@jokerdino I'm in the pacific time zone. That's all I will tell you.
 
If something is wrong with your question and it gets downvotes, you can work on improving it and people often change their mind
 
@simchona If a question is perfectly phrased (according to some unknown criteria), the question would never have been asked in the first place.
 
user19161
@nortonn Why do you use funny symbols in your questions? It really pisses me off.
 
It's a secret (a remnant from my previous line of work)
 
user19161
@NortonnS Do you know you sound delusional to me now?
 
user19161
6:33 AM
Whatever your previous line of work is, those symbols have no business here.
 
@nortonn asking is fine; asking four or five times isnt
 
@JasperLoy Secrecy necessarily illusion, and incidental delusion.
@simchona Interrogation involves repetitious questioning.
 
user19161
@NortonnS I still get the feeling that you are just playing with us.
 
If you "interrogate" then you might get suspended again
 
Down-voting should be used sparingly; suspension is cruel and unusual punishment.
 
user19161
6:37 AM
@nortonn If you are suspended, stop posting. If your question has been asked but closed, edit it if you think it should be reopened and raise the issue on meta if necessary. Stop using those symbols, and stop playing with us. This is the last time I will say it.
 
@JasperLoy As long as my questions are not summarily closed, I won't repost them.
 
My downvote count disagrees with you.
 
user19161
@NortonnS These are the rules of the site and rules may be broken if they are unreasonable. In this case I think they are reasonable. If you want to use the site familiarize yourself with how it works first.
 
@nortonn if it gets closed, fix it and it can be reopened
 
6:40 AM
@Mahnax Disagreement should not suppress free expression
 
user19161
@NortonnS This is not about free expression dude. This is a site with a specific purpose. Rules are there to keep the site to its purpose, not for you to use as a vandalism board by using those symbols.
 
@NortonnS Why not?
 
@simchona Instead of closing questions, how about some friend-of-court advice for such "bad" questions?
 
This site has rules, can you accept that? You break them, you get punished. It's simple. Really, really simple. Someone who "works for the government" should understand what rules are.
 
@NortonnS: protection of free speech is for governments, not for websites. If you get banned from a website, and you keep bypassing the bans, at minimum you're infringing on their right of expression. Besides, closing and downvoting questions are freedom of expression too.
 
6:43 AM
@JasperLoy The symbols helps fool the duplicate-detector.
The bad rules should be changed.
 
What bad rules?
@NortonnS Give me one rule that is bad. Tell me why, and what should be changed.
 
The bad rules that ban innocent average users without due process/
 
That is not a rule.
You were banned for breaking rules.
You are not innocent.
 
user19161
@jokerdino Are you here?
 
i'm a trailblazer.
 
6:45 AM
You're nothing of the sort.
You're a loonie.
 
i'm progressive
 
Then please, progress yourself right out of our website.
 
progress is just getting started here.
 
Your so-called progress is being crushed by the will of the many.
We don't want your progress.
 
progress is being crushed by the will of evil
 
6:52 AM
Oh, so we're evil now?
 
@Mahnax i never said that
 
user19161
@NortonnS We are not evil people here. I have met many evil people in my life. I have been severely abused and I know what it feels.
 
@NortonnS Yes you did. Since whatever you are doing is being thwarted by the community, and you claim that evil is thwarting you, you have labelled the community evil.
 
@JasperLoy Does communism count as evil
 
user19161
@NortonnS I don't know enough about communism to comment. There are also different definitions of communism, but this is not the point here.
 
6:57 AM
@JasperLoy Communism is widespread
 
@NortonnS looks for communism
finds none nearby
 
user19161
@NortonnS We are not discussing communism now. We are just saying that this is a site for a group of people to do something specific, and your behaviour is not making this site function properly.
 
user19161
@NortonnS We are not evil people here and we are not authoritarian. We just want this site to be a certain way for it to serve its purpose and we have explained things to you.
 
The abuse I have been subjected to over the past month was consistent with communism
 
@NortonnS You have abused our website.
You, in my opinion, deserve every punishment you've received, and more.
 
user19161
7:01 AM
@NortonnS No, I don't think it is abuse. In fact, I think you are abusing the website. And trust me, I hate abuse too because I have been a victim of that.
 
I merely resisted the collective abuse
 
room topic changed to Discussion: Productivity levels dropping. (no tags)
 
user19161
@nortonn I am guessing things a bit, but I think you have been the victim of other kinds of abuse and you are now feeling sensitive about things.
 
user19161
@nortonn I want you to know that we are not evil or authoritarian. We just have certain simple guidelines here for the smooth functioning of the site. So please try to accommodate us. And also I pray that you will be able to overcome your personal problems and feel whole again some day.
 
@JasperLoy- I think he is just trying to draw attention to himself. We are trying to help him, but he doesn't even see that.
 
7:06 AM
The effects of communism continue to felt long after its last application
 
@NortonnS- Nobody abused you here...
 
@Noah Well, I did call him a loonie.
 
@NortonnS- I think you are trying to use communism as an excuse.
 
@Noah He doesn't like the rules or the way we operate here, and communism is his label for it.
 
This room has served its purpose. Accordingly, I am freezing it.
 
7:08 AM
waiwai933 has frozen this room.