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2:03 PM
3 days!
 
@fbueckert He's mostly just ranting.
I'm editing out the rant now.
 
You sir, are an idiot. You've unfortunately missed the whole point. It uses the same account for the forums as it does for my account, thus forum compromised == account compromised, unless I suppose, you use an authenticator - which atm I do not. Thanks for being patronising and putting the security reasons bit in quotes though. Nice touch. — kindascrewedbyblizzard 5 mins ago
So polite!
 
@Sterno I feel like flagging that. He really just wants someone to agree with his whole, "Blizzard sucks!" ranting.
 
@fbueckert Oh, hey, thanks. I forgot you can flag comments. Now I just did!
 
2:12 PM
@Wipqozn I don't understand what I'm looking at!
 
@Sterno what was that a reply to? Some wonderful mod has already removed it.
@Sterno I'm sure someone will get it.
 
@Sterno A real life demostration of QWOP
 
@YiJiang BOOM! HEADSHOT!
 
It's... astoundingly accurate
 
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A: Do you need to have a diablo 3 account and character to post on Blizzard forums?

KovikoThere is no such thing as anonymous posting on the Battle.net forums. They are not public forums. They are a deep-rooted part of the Battle.net system which requires you to have an active, paid Battle.net account in order to participate. As for your "security reasons," the Battle.net forums cann...

 
2:17 PM
I think this fellows knowledge of 'hacking' is from CSI.
 
@Wipqozn Touché, tortoise. You may have your space.
 
@NiQAlasT Pretty much this.
@fbueckert Damn straight.
 
@Wipqozn Maybe we can make a GUI app in Visual Basic for him so he can track the serial killer's IP
 
@Sterno Great idea!
 
2:21 PM
@Sterno A while ago, I saw someone post a video to youtube titled, "How to hack anyone's computer." It was a video tutorial of using tracert.
 
FAE
@Sterno Did you know hackers talking on IRC is like shipping channels in the ocean?
 
@FAE TIL
 
@FAE I love that clip.
 
2:23 PM
@FAE I did! For those who haven't read it, this entire article is gold
 
0
Q: How does Furion's ult bounce?

khraveIt seems like whenever I will be farming and minding my own business, an enemy Furion's ult will come out of nowhere and hit me on the last bounce, taking a large chunk of my health. When I play Furion, I know that I can cast it globally on any creap that I have vision of. Does it use this same...

0
Q: Does block chance on other items require shield?

BoraSome items have the magical attribute "block chance x%". Now, I haven't seen this attribute in any other item than in shields. How does this work on other items? With or without shield? I can imagine that it adds to the shield's block chance, but, what happens if I don't have a shield?

 
@Lazers Dupity dupe dupe.
 
FAE
@Sterno Hahaha yeeeeeah
 
The NCIS one of them sharing a keyboard to hack faster is probably my favorite
 
2:27 PM
Sidenote: Every question that the dupe poster above has asked about has turned out to be a dupe. Should I ask him to put some effort into searching before posting a new question?
 
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@fbueckert Might not hurt.
 
@fbueckert I wouldn't.
 
@Sterno Eh? Why not?
 
Because it amounts to saying "You suck. Try to suck less."
Dupes aren't that big a deal.
 
user15026
That's true, I suppose.
 
2:30 PM
@Sterno I actually watched this episode at some point lastnight
 
@Sterno I look at dupes that show no effort as basically, "I'm lazy. I'll just ask and don't care if it's a dupe." As an example, his above question was easily found by searching " block"
I understand dupes that use drastically different wording; I had a dupe question that did exactly that. But a question that uses basically the same wording shows zero research effort.
 
@Sterno "Is that a 12-core?"
 
I have the high score in every major online MMO.
 
FAE
@murgatroid99 lol
 
2:41 PM
TIL the olympics start before the opening ceremony:
> The Olympic Games begin with a round of football matches on Wednesday 25 July, including Team GB's women taking on New Zealand in Cardiff, two days before the opening ceremony in Olympic Park.
 
@QAdley Woo! Unofficial scrimmages.
 
@Sterno only the major ones? I have the highest score in every MMO ever made. Oh and when I watch people playing games I mimic their controller movements. Oh and consoles are just like computers right? Boxes full of games...
 
@Sterno Brb. Creating a GUI interface to track your high score.
 
@murgatroid99 SPOILERS!!!111ONEONE!!!!
 
2:56 PM
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Q: What are the 2 star level requirements in Empire Defense 2?

DustinDavisWhat are the requirements to achieve 2 or more stars on a level in Empire Defense 2? I've been looking but can't find anything. I've tried all sorts of things, but I get nothing more than 1 star as a result.

 
so... um... er...
how am was I supposed to do this?
 
@badp That may be the first time I've seen BoI give a room that is impossible to complete.
 
I'm quite upset now actually since this wasn't a terrible run
@fbueckert There were two rooms like this actually but for the first one I had a bomb.
 
@badp Can you jam your pet into the rocks in an attempt to kill those things?
 
Pets wouldn't go through chasms
 
3:08 PM
@badp turn on belial and shove yourself up against the spike thing to try to kill the blobs before you die
 
@murgatroid99 That's what I tried and it didn't work.
I'd need like 6 hearts to do that
 
@badp then I'm out of ideas. That is also the first unbeatable room I've ever seen
well, unbeatable in principle given normal shots and stuff
 
just in case you wondered what the 'platinum god' image was
 
I am facepalming so hard right now
 
@YiJiang You and me both.
The user still does not understand that this is not a forum.
 
3:13 PM
Sacred heart + chocolate milk + mutant spider + book of belial =
oh Reddit.
 
@badp That looks like a single hit kill to me! :P
 
Does BoI have a cap on damage?
 
@YiJiang Some say there is one, but I have no idea.
 
...I ask for Active Directory credentials from a client, so I can integrate Sharepoint into it for permissions.
I get a list of AD groups created for Sharepoint, with no specifications on permissions at all, and no credentials so I can actually attach Sharepoint to their Active Directory.
facepalm
 
Okay, wait, the current community choice sale item isn't available in my region?
 
> Batman: Arkham City 66% off ($10.19 from $29.99)
Arkham City isn't available in Asia? Weird...
 
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Q: How can you counter tankwick?

ponsfonzeTankwick (Warwick), could either start top or jungle. It seems like when he is built properly, he takes very little damage, while his Q does decent damage and heals him a bunch. Then he gets decent damage from his auto attacks as well. Playing as a tank, he will out heal me. Laning top he wil...

 
@Lazers Another one. Close!
 
Ooh! Super Motherload has been announced!
 
3:38 PM
@badp you sure that doesn't have tech 2 and polymepheus? That's what it looks like
no, wait, just technology
 
@murgatroid99 that's what the guy on Reddit who posted the pic said.
 
@badp well, that's definitely technology 2. It has to be some beam weapon
 
@badp I just booted BoI and recieved like 12 achievements. Have there been some added?
 
FAE
@GnomeSlicE There were some added with WotL DLC, but there was also a problem with some of the achievements hooking properly, so that may have been fixed and that's why you got the popups.
 
3:50 PM
I really wish the steam version of Hammerfight would update.
 
@GnomeSlicE How's your internet today?
 
@Fluttershy Slow. As usual.
 
@GnomeSlicE Well... if you find time to go to my Twitch.tv channel, can you give me your opinion on the quality?
It's a broadcast from last night.
 
@Fluttershy Not bad, better than mine.
 
Weew!
 
3:56 PM
@Fluttershy Text in your web browser is sort of barely readable, but for a game it's fine.
 
@GnomeSlicE That's fine. I'd rather people not be able to read what I type. =P
 
god I'm glad that day is over
 
For everyone interested, The Legend of Korra is getting another 2 seasons bringing the total to 4
 
Apparently Steam has crashed. >_>
 
@Fluttershy Too many sales?
@pixel Go to sleep! :)
Oh! @Fluttershy I got a Ruby incubating :)
 
3:59 PM
Does this link not work for anyone else? store.steampowered.com/app/22610
 
too early to go to sleep :( I don't want to wake up in the middle of the night
 
@Fluttershy The website? Yeah, happened a few days ago too. Look at the activity chart and see the huge dip in the numbers for when Steam crashes
 
@James I have an egg on display already. >_>
 
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Q: How can I report a cheater?

dayzI was watching the a live stream of someone playing DayZ while he was going back to his tent and it showed a bunch of forbidden item such as the M24 Desert and AS50 TWS. I could not see the server or his nick name since he hid it on the stream. However, I do know the location of his stash: 10...

 
@pixel That is the best time to wake up because you know you can just sleep some more :)
 
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4:00 PM
@GnomeSlicE Steam in general's not loading for me atm
 
@YiJiang Even Steam itself crashed.
 
@James If I wake up in the middle of the night its usually wide awake
@James the sort of awake state that I would love when I wake up for work but never get
 
@pixel Ahh... that sucks.
@Fluttershy I can log into steam just fine it seems more of the store has crashed.. I see 11 people online too :)
 
@James Oh yeah. I guess I do still have access to friends. >_> But the store is the important part.
 
4:03 PM
@Fluttershy True :)
 
wat
 
@GnomeSlicE Been there Done that :)
 
@GnomeSlicE Old news, man. >_>
 
@Fluttershy ...So?
 
Come on, if I want to see reposts I'll go to reddit
 
4:04 PM
@GnomeSlicE Just saying. <_< I saw it for the first time when it was at $300k of its goal. =P
 
@Fluttershy What's it at now? Couldn't load the page.
 
@GnomeSlicE Close to $5m.
 
@Fluttershy Wow. What happens to all of the extra?
 
@GnomeSlicE More production? Not really sure.
 
@GnomeSlicE making it better? publicizing it more?
 
4:17 PM
@FAE how much is Skydrift on Steam these days?
I've been contemplating buying it again so I can play online.
 
FAE
@GnomeSlicE Uuuuuuh, I had someone gift it to me so I'm not sure how much it was and I'm also not sure how much it is in dollars.
I think it's $3 something in dollars?
 
@FAE ...Is that all?
 
FAE
@GnomeSlicE I think?
 
@FAE Oh it's on sale! Argh... no money...
23 July that's in....
uh
6 days.
Shit.
 
Question: Do we approve edits of questions or answers that drastically modify the intent of the question/answer?
 
4:22 PM
@FAE Now that it's gotten so much attention on Steam though, I probably wouldn't be very good at it anyway.
@fbueckert No.
 
So why does steam seem to be selling todays games that are exactly the same as yesterday's games?
 
@Fbueckert ive seen a few rare cases when it was done to rescue and otherwise terribly written question, but thats about it.
 
FAE
@James Because it doesn't roll over for another 30 minutes
 
@GnomeSlicE Psst~ the Rokko Chan arranged chipped tracks and original album are on out (pay what you want).
 
@FAE So either Steam is 10 hours behind me or 14 hours ahead of me?
 
4:28 PM
@Ender If you need to drastically change the intent of the question to make it appropriate for the site, then you should close it. That question can be asked on it's own by someone who actually wants to know the answer.
 
@GnomeSlicE I don't neccesarily disagree, I was just saying I've seen it done a few times. As I mentioned, its rare and generally circumstancial.
 
@fbueckert I wouldn't call it drastically alter
I made it into an acceptable question
with the answer being what the original poster was looking for
Of course I'm assuming you're asking about gaming.stackexchange.com/q/77282/18146
 
But this leads me to another question, if a question gets closed due to not constructive, whats the policy of asking the same question reworded so it is constructive?
 
@QAzer I don't actually know what this is, but WTF, one of them has 65 tracks on it.
 
4:37 PM
@BrianColvin Yeah, you're thinking right. That's the one I was asking about.
 
@BrianColvin there isnt one, edit the first question to make it constructive and it will be reopened.
@brianColvin unless of course your not the original poster of the question. Then you'd have to make your own if I'm not mistaken.
 
@Ender thats where the problem comes in, the original poster worded the question horribly
 
@BrianColvin I see your dilema, I'd open my own question, worded properly, and leave it at that. However most everyone in here is more experienced than I at the websites policies and habits so you'd be wise to get a second opinion
 
Personally, the suggested edit still seems to be too vague; it will garner lots of opinions and extended discussion.
 
That edit is still subjective and dependent on the metagame.
The subjectivity isn't so much the problem...
 
4:43 PM
its asking how to play an ad carry vs a normal top lane champion which is pretty well established among the LoL community
 
@BrianColvin But you're referencing the meta game, which throws a whole new wrench into the ballgame.
 
@BrianColvin Asking about the viability is dependent on the metagame.
 
Unfortunately, the metagame is more factual than theoretical
But i see your point
 
Matthew Read approved the edit anyways, but it still shouldn't be re-opened.
 
@BrianColvin I disagree. Everytime I have asked someone why X role goes in Y lane, I always get "That's just the way the metagame is."
 
4:46 PM
@BrianColvin I also disagree.
 
Would it be more appropriate to list the champtions and state how to play an AD carry solo lane vs x,y,z champions?
unfortunately you cant classify normal top champions without referencing meta
 
@StrixVaria Another recommendation for your workplace Xbox: Bang Bang Racing
 
@BrianColvin Why is each champion fitted into a lane for meta, anyways?
 
What the fuck Steam. Don't tell me my games are unavailable.
 
@fbueckert as of right now certain compositions for particular lanes seem to be most effective. IE: This formula works best, so he goes there, she goes over there, and we stay here.
 
4:53 PM
What, you want low prices AND games you can play?
 
@Ender And that still requires knowledge of the meta game.
Which is something I had no idea existed. At all. Until today.
 
@fbueckert but the people answering/asking/viewing the question will know what the meta is
 
@BrianColvin How do you know that?
 
it is localized though as eventually if zombies attack the meta may change
 
The point of a question and answer is to provide knowledge, regardless of skill level.
 
4:55 PM
@Fbueckert you dont hear of it referenced by name often. but , to keep things somewhat simple, pick a spellcasting mana heavy hero and take top lane and you will be flamed like a peice of kindling every game. almost everybody who plays knows of the meta. (i'm assuming we are discussing draft and ranked games, blind pick is a different story)
 
Awww, ConspiracyTheories.SE didn't make it
so much trolling potential!
 
lol
 
@Ender And that's one of the main things I don't like about LoL; meta knowledge is required to do anything, and there's no friendliness to help newbies learn said meta knowledge.
I feel like asking a question: "What is this meta game everyone is talking about?"
 
@fbueckert I really think you should now that you bring that up, considering most players have only loose knowledge of what it is by word of mouth and paying attention to others conversations. If it can be definitively answered (something i'm skeptical about) that would be very helpfull.
 
Huh. Apparently, it's already been asked:
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Q: What is the Meta Game?

DarkAveril Possible Duplicate: What is metagame? I have heard a lot of people tell me that your Meta Game is just as important as playing well. What exactly is the Meta game and how does one go about improving it, or even getting it to begin with?

 
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5:01 PM
@Fluttershy @wipqozn @murgatroid99 I ordered the BEST DoctorWho/MLP crossover shirt ever. :D
 
@fbueckert figures lol. The answer is a good one though.
 
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Q: Does one show up on the enemy radar if he uses unsilenceable weapons (MW3)?

VictorIf he fires an RPG or M203, which do not have silencers, does he show up? What about knifing? The knife doesn't have a silencer, so does that mean knifing gives away your position?

0
Q: How do you watch videos from recent matches if possible?(BF3)

user29484I was beasting on BF3 and there is this one match that I want to watch again.

 
@Ender But that sort of proves my point; every question and answer we get about is heavily influenced by the meta game. The assumption is that people will play according to the meta.
How the crap is someone supposed to learn the meta without getting flamed into pieces?
 
@Fbueckert Sure, but, every question and answer for ANY constantly evolving competitive multiplayer game is influenced by such.
 
@Ender Any answer that relies on the assumption of meta knowledge is a bad answer.
 
5:05 PM
@Fbueckert some games are easier to learn than others, MOBAs such as LoL are famous for being difficult to learn, usually due to their highly aggressive\immature player base.
 
Meta knowledge is a moving target. Without actually specifying your assumptions, your answer becomes moot as soon as meta changes.
 
@fbueckert Perhaps you should take the idea of meta reliant answers being bad ones to OUR meta.
;-)
 
Unfortunately asking, "What is League of Legends metagame" will get closed as being too localized as this isn't a wiki, so the best way to learn is to find someone who's knowledgable and not an a** and ask
 
I don't think the Call of Duty franchise really understands how Steam sales are supposed to work
 
@BrianColvin Good luck with that one. The fact that you had to qualify that means 95% of the playerbase will kill you for even asking.
 
5:08 PM
Yea, so we need to find a way to get around the rules to provide meta answers here :)
 
@fbueckert I learned the meta mostly by paying attention and asking my friends the questions that didnt have obvious answers. I suspect most players do the same. If you read up on patch notes, pay attention to tournies and follow the forums, you generally know most of what you need to.
 
@BrianColvin The rules are there for a reason. Trying to get around them is usually asking for a suspension.
@Ender So...you can't just play the game to learn, then? That's not intuitive.
And stupid.
 
@Fbueckert sure you can. thats what blind pick and vs AI games are for
 
@fbueckert I wasn't speaking of taking the gnomeslice approach, more of getting the rules changed via a meta discussion
 
@Ender Blind pick games are all I've played. The amount of rage inherent in that is astounding.
 
5:10 PM
(meta being arqade meta)
 
@Fbueckert see my message above about MOBA player bases, lol.
 
Trying to ask questions of people who are screaming at you for doing something you have no idea is wrong leads to bad experiences.
 
many players are turned off of MOBAs for that very reason. I can't really blame them.
matter of fact, dota2 is attempting to fix that problem as we speak with some kind of new 'coaching' system
not too sure how effective that will be, but we'll see I'm sure.
 
@Ender You're still not really helping, though. :P A game is meant to have fun. Why would you play something that heaps that amount of abuse on you as soon as you do something "wrong"?
 
@Fbueckert fun is different for everyone, I in particular embrace the challenge.
When i'm getting flamed by players a, b, and e, and still win, carry the team, and make everyone look stupid by doing so, I had a good game.
 
5:12 PM
LoL has single-handedly made me write off the entire MOBA genre, due to it's hostility and toxic community.
 
@fbueckert i'm sorry to hear that, but I completly understand all the same.
@Fbueckert I strongly advise you find some friends who also play the game. it changes the entire experience.
 
user15026
A mashed potato machine? I can't decide if this is awesome or gross.
 
@Ender ...And I'm going to stick my hand back into the fire why? Once burned, twice shy.
 
@fbueckert ive been playing with the same group of buddies since dota first game out on warcraft 3. thats more than ten years of moba fun, simply because its been an inside friendship team thing the whole time
 
@AshleyNunn Awesome, obviously. Add gravy for bliss.
 
5:14 PM
your friends (if their real friends) wont flame you, they will help you
 
@GnomeSlicE it's a ridiculously enchanting Mega Man parody called Rokko Chan. Plays Like MMX and Super Castlevania IV. By indie developer King, came out late last year.
 
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@fbueckert Fair enough.
 
@Ender I'll stick to games where the community doesn't try to burn you the instant you tell them you're new.
 
So... Ticket to Ride, one of the 5 games in the Indie Bundle, is the same price as the entire indie bundle...
 
user15026
@Fluttershy Ticket to Ride is on sale? :D :D :D :D:
 
5:15 PM
@Fbueckert whatever makes you happy :D
 
@Ender I play RTS's in LAN cafes. Delivering soul crushings on demand!
 
@fbueckert if you ever change your mind feel free to look me up :D (Bardov on LoL)
 
@AshleyNunn Ticket to Ride isn't on sale. It's the same price alone as it is buying the entire Indie Bundle. <_<
 
@fbueckert wow i wish we had lan cafe's here. that would be awesoem
 
user15026
@Fluttershy With DLC, or without?
 
5:17 PM
@AshleyNunn There's DLC?
 
Yx. just wrote a great answer that kind of got lost in the huge answers already on this question
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A: Building Barbarian in Inferno

yx.While the other excellent posts on this topic has addressed mostly the skill issue I'll go into a little more depth about gearing for act 3-4 inferno: The primary factors to consider for inferno is survivability. As a melee, if you can't last at least a minute against a group of white monsters,...

Just wanted to give it some attention!
 
@Ender Funny story; I love to play RTS's with friends, especially in LAN cafes. I got a reputation at this one cafe as being really good at RTS's.
 
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@Fluttershy Yeah, Europe, Switzerland, and US DLC stuff
 
@fbueckert No offense, but if you have a reputation at a local LAN café, you're spending too much time there...
:P
 
So one day, he tells me of this kid who was bragging he was so good at C&C 4 (this was a few years ago). So, he asked me to, and I quote, "crush his soul". So we played a 2 on 2, him with a buddy, me with a friend.
Turns out I didn't even need my friend. I steamrolled with massive amounts of zone troopers.
 
5:19 PM
LOL
i used to do that in broodwar
 
Kid watches the replay, and tells me, "You play like a computer".
 
like reguarly, you guys vs me. 2 or 3 vs 1 lets do it
 
That's the best compliment I've ever gotten.
 
I'd be pretty head swole. hehheh.
 
@GnomeSlicE I was there for several hours every Saturday evening. Dropped TONs of cash.
You haven't played multiplayer until you play it in the same room as friends.
 
user15026
5:21 PM
@Fluttershy I won't play the stuff in the bundle, so I am buying it separately + DLC - I know that I could get the other games for the same price, but I don't care for the other stuff. Weird Ashley logic is weird.
 
@Ender The owner of the LAN cafe talked to me the next day. "I asked you to crush his soul, not stomp all over it and piss on what's left!" It was amusing.
3
 
@AshleyNunn How much is the DLC?
 
user15026
Having never bought DLC on steam - if I am buying a game + DLC and install the game, does the DLC get installed with it automatically?
 
user15026
@Fluttershy 10.97 for all 3
 
@fbueckert LOL
 
5:23 PM
I'll be the 200th to mention Psychonauts is €2.24
 
@AshleyNunn I'll just play the regular Ticket to Ride... >_>
 
@Ender I don't like to play easily, giving the other guy a chance. I'm going to try to steamroll you as fast and as hard as I can.
So, there are two modes available: Off, and Soul Crusher.
 
@fbueckert Play to Win. Fight to Kill. Live to Die.
 
Just tried to fit the problem faced into a meta question meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/q/5096/1814
 
@Ender Hence why people play me; even when they lose, they know I didn't take it easy on them.
 
5:27 PM
That's boring! You could've played a billion times worse than that and you would've still won!!
or at least very poorly optimized.
 
In case anyone was wondering, even if you have the strongest intentions to not speak in that weird baby-talk voice to your baby, eventually, it's going to happen and become your normal speaking mode.
 
@Sterno I disagree.
 
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Q: Do AoE teams outshine those without AoE?

SamI've been thinking to myself recently - why would you pick a champion who has no AoE abilities? What would be the point in picking a team of champions that were not able to deal significant amount of damage in an Area instead of just single targets. Surely, a team with Kennen, Amumu, graves, Wuko...

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Q: Questions regarding established metagame

Brian ColvinMany games (LoL, SC2, etc) have established metagame. Unfortunately, its sometimes difficult to pick up the metagame without being called a noob for the first many games you play. This often discourages people from playing games just because they don't have an understanding of how it works, and...

 
@Sterno father of 4, and I don't constantly (and never have) baby talk any of them
@Sterno educationally, its actually bad to do so, as it stunts their language growth.
 
I mean tone of voice, not actual words, though your comment probably still holds
 
5:35 PM
@BrianColvin Response provided!
 
It's definitely a very different tone of voice than I speak to my coworkers!
 
@Sterno tone of voice is less critical, but still important. it would eventually effect pronounciation and accent.
 
@badp I actually do that; when I play against someone who I know I'll win against, I try strange, oddball things just to see how they work out.
Once I filled the center of a Starcraft map with Pylons and Photon Cannons. Hit the building limit.
@BrianColvin That might be one of the reasons I don't like LoL; the meta game is seen as "insider knowledge", and it's extremely difficult to retrieve that knowledge in order to improve yourself.
 
@fbueckert I agree but under current rules we can't provide an answer to metagame questions
 
@BrianColvin We shouldn't be asking metagame questions.
 
5:42 PM
well we can, but we can't get the questions openned to begin with
 
If someone asks a question, any answers that draw on meta should be providing that knowledge of meta in their answer.
Enriches both established players and new players alike.
 
If I ask "What is the metagame for League of Legends?" it will get closed, if every question asked about metagame must first establish what metagame is then we have alot of redundant information
 
The problem with LoL is the reciprocating cycle of abuse. "Well, I got flamed to pieces trying to learn this. Now that I know it, I'll abuse you until YOU learn it."
 
@BrianColvin hm why?
 
@badp why can't I ask the question? Because someone will close it as too localized
 
5:44 PM
what? that's... interesting. What about is too localized?
 
that its localized to the current time the question is asked and the metagame may change
maybe i'm using the wrong word
 
Mind you, I pretty much refuse to moderate LoL questions because I know nothing
@BrianColvin Yeah, that's what I feared. "Too localized" never means "this may change at some point in the future"
 
@badp how about "this will keep changing in the future"?
 
@murgatroid99 So what? Did we refuse answering questions about Minecraft because minecart boosters would have been broken at some point in the future, maybe?
My rule of thumb for what too localized in time means is it means "the past or the future". The present is never too localized. But that's just my rule of thumb.
 
@badp OK, I see your point. But should we have "What is the metagame now?" or "What is the history of the metagame?" or what? Metagames are not constant
 
5:49 PM
Roughly how often does the community's opinion on something change?
For example, I don't think there's ever been a point so far in the history of TF2 where the metagame didn't dictate "Stock weapons are best weapons."
 
@badp Maybe some of them evolve more than others
 
or "The best composition of a six person team with a limit of 1 medic and 1 demoman is two scouts, two soldiers, 1 medic and 1 demoman"
@murgatroid99 Yes, that's why I am asking
 
@badp It could be that I have a limited perspective, since this article is the main one I think of when trying to understand what a metagame is: super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Metagame
 
Perhaps the best approach is to answer the questions about metagame for how it works currently and if it changes return to the question and fix the answer? With the prevalence of pushing new content to online games, many questions may have their answers change in which case its encouraged to go fix the answers, not close the question
 
Yeah, it either changes because of massive rebalancing of everything across the whole board, changes in design issues or strategy breakthroughs. None of those are so terribly common
At least that's what I think; again I don't play LoL* so I don't know the specifics and all I can do is wonder aloud pointlessly
 
5:54 PM
@badp well, LoL isn't the only game with a metagame, and we should probably be considering this more generally
 
I think LoL is the only game right now where we don't do "metagame" = strategy
 
SC2's metagame is treated as strategy, heh I agree @badp
 
@BrianColvin The GSE metagame dictates that agreeing with me is a sure way to lose in an argument :P
 
I think current metagame for LoL is basically "rage and flame". Repeat until you win.
 
@badp what makes LoL so special thats its metagame is offtopic?
 
5:56 PM
@Ender That's what I'm trying to understand
I guess we'd need more LoL-heads like FAE and pals
 
I am confused. As far as I can tell, strategy refers to something like a particular playstyle and metagame is a description of commonly used strategies currently
 
Honestly too localized is not the only reason I see when people close metagame questions, there's also not constructive
 
and the discussion reason i forget the exact wording
 
more than about discussion, it's about bad subjectivity
or "How should I counter X?" "I do Y." "I do Z." "I do P." rather than "I do Y because A, B and C. It doesn't work when the enemy does T but then you can use K."
 

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