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10:00 PM
glare
 
Do not look beneath the surface of Wikipedia. It's nothing but a seething morass of bureaucracy. Just follow the link from your Google search, get the info you need, and leave.
 
@Mana It's true, we've only been growing fast on traffic
 
user30
@Brant Been there, done that.
 
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Q: Why is our conversion rate so low?

badpSite Visits/day Users 200+ users Questions ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── gaming.stackexchange.com 15,004 6,279 490 (54/day) 4,654 (20/day) askubuntu.com 14,771 9,152 479 (80/da...

 
@badp argh
Fine
 
10:00 PM
Sure, traffic matters
 
Everybody ask a question per day
this is our goal
 
and indeed AskUbuntu is about to match our traffic
at the end of the day, we should be proud
 
Abandon life for gaming like so many before us
 
We're building from zero
 
@badp Well maybe if everyone would STFU up about that site that I don't acknowledge exists, they'd have more time to discuss our awesomeness.
 
10:01 PM
We don't have a corporation behind us
We don't have forums linking to us
All we have
we made it
 
Mark Zuckerberg would not approve of that view @badp
 
we earned it
@Mana Where is he now??
 
@badp Yes we do?
 
@ArdaXi Well, okay, one, not two.
And certainly not an awesome domain name.
 
@badp to be honest that's because we couldn't think of one
 
10:02 PM
So all in all it's AskUbuntu who should be ashamed for not wtfpwning all other Q&As straight away
 
I only joined this site because I thought it would help me get laid.
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I still hold that CriticalAnswers is pretty solid
 
@Mana no. See NothingToInstall.com
even if we had one (like cooking did), we'd still be gaming.stackexchyawnwhatwasthatthingagain.meh
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@badp Or even better, ask rchern :P
 
I blame radp.
 
10:04 PM
@Mana We all do, we all do.
 
user30
@badp That was a terrible domain name, or I thought it was.
 
@Brant Well, we probably can tell you how to get laid in some games, but reality is not our business
 
So back on a more site-related topic, what is everyone's opinion on putting the name of the game at the start of the question title like this? (Not passing judgement on any particular user, just pointing out a trend)
 
bah. I forgot my manners!
room topic changed to The Bridge: of Gaming's StackExchange™ AlienOverlord AskQuestion™ mothership, overloading its lazers for the imminent elections. Yes, it's badp's fault. I've put it here so you don't have to mention it again. You're welcome.
 
It's @badp's fault. See, I had to mention it again.
 
10:06 PM
@Brant Well, since they didn't even write it correctly, it's epic fail :P
 
@ArdaXi Be my guest
 
Crashplan is still calculating the amount of data to backup. It's now at 39.5 GB
 
fixes their spacebar
 
@Brant Jeff disapproves as he noted in a comment on Marines vs. Marauders
 
@Brant I try to work the name of the game into the question naturally, as long as the question is not too long anyway. I'm pretty sure it helps with SEO. The automatic tag-adding to the title doesn't help as soon as you have a pc,xbox,spoiler, ... tag on the question.
 
10:07 PM
Personally I don't really mind
 
@Brant I don't like it.
 
@Brant Bad. Tags do that already. The title will look like starcraft-2 - StarCraft 2: etc
 
It ruins all the fun.
 
@Brant Honestly, the site will do that for you if you don't, so he might as well do that.
 
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Q: How do I Poison Someone?

GnomeSliceThis is difficult to ask. Ok, so this guy is really getting on my nerves. He's stubborn, obnoxious, idiotic, and completely driving me up the wall. It's time for him to go. However, there is a bit more to it than that. I could simply organize the other people involved to banish him from our ...

 
10:08 PM
@ArdaXi For starcraft it works, for other games often other tags are more popular
 
That question wouldn't be near as entertaining if it had Die2Nite: stuck in front of it.
 
@GnomeSlice Depends. If they never heard of the game it might.
I mean, preferably the guy should die tonight.
 
He's done it this time. He's gone too far. He's got to DIE2NITE.
 
Did I just say that? That's terribly unkind of me.
 
@GnomeSlice Die2Nite doesn't have signigicant google juice anyways. For more popular games having the name in the title most likely helps a lot
 
10:10 PM
@ArdaXi It actually doesn't show the tag at the start if it's been used in the title. The problem with those questions is that they all say "Starcraft2" not "Starcraft 2", so that doesn't happen.
 
user30
> If you have a lot to back up, the initial backup might take longer than you'd like. So we offer a ‘seed service’ where we send you an external hard drive to use for your first backup. After you send it back, we transfer the data directly to CrashPlan Central, saving a lot of time on your first backup.
 
And I think our top-voted question is a better example for that ;-)
 
@ThomasMcDonald Too expensive, and Available to US addresses only.
 
user30
@ArdaXi I haven't got to pricing yet, just saw that and thought 'awesome'. Also: fffffuuuuu
 
Mozy started that trend.
 
10:11 PM
All the more reason to get your backups going now, so you can ignore it for a couple months.
My initial upload is about 2/3 through the 25 days it says it'll take
but after that it's all just diffs, so whatever
 
What's the point of offering cheaper plans if you buy ahead, when they credit you for un-used time?
@Brant How much space is that?
 
I forgot. Depends on your internet connection though. I have it limited to 300kbps.
 
user30
300kbps upload? Hah.
 
@ArdaXi I paid for the unlimited version and bought a few years in advance because of that loophole, hehe
 
I'd put it at 4 Mbps or something.
 
user30
10:14 PM
I'd do well to get 100kbps.
 
Look at that horrible, horrible ping.
I have no idea what causes that anyway. I'm supposed to get like 100 Mbps
 
@ArdaXi What's that? TCP/IP over pigeon?
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my ISP isn't the fastest, but they don't do deep-packet inspection or have monthly transfer limits so I've stuck with them over the years.
 
@Brant None do, here.
@Fabian The speeds are good. Not great, but good.
 
the other big ISP around here (Rogers) aggressively blocks bittorrent. they even go so far as to transmit fake 'disconnect' messages to your client that supposedly come from the peers you're connected to.
 
10:16 PM
@ArdaXi I mean the ping
That is really bad
 
@Fabian Well yeah. I don't understand why it happens.
 
I think your pigeons are distracted by something
 
packet loss (hawks)
 
But to get those speeds you need a lot of pigeons, cleaning up after them has to be an awful lot of work
 
@badp Interesting link.
user image
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10:19 PM
well, that wasn't very informative
 
Well, I'd live about 2 years longer in Canada, but all the rest aren't that inviting.
 
Oh wow, I'm at 50 GB with Crashplan already.
 
...and you would be 204.86% more depressed by politics, until you learn about shrugging about it.
 
10:22 PM
@ArdaXi Yes, Italy is written in larger text, hence it is better.
That said, Italy really stinks, don't let the stats fool you :P
 
NL > IT
Well, quite technically, IT > NL, but we're better.
 
I wonder if the outlined word is in response to the people who managed to defeat recaptcha
 
user30
I hate those inverted recaptchas.
 
This is the first one I've seen.
 
@Brant Wouldn't they be easier to read?
 
user30
10:25 PM
Yeah, I've only seen them over the past couple of days, and the problems for me begin when the inversion starts right in the middle of a letter.
 
@brant lol you didn't do that just so tzenes and I would stop arguing did you?
 
Heh... actually, I didn't even read the comment thread until you said that
 
@brant all good, that just means you read it the same way as me :D
god i wish i didn't have a job...
 
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Q: What are the Bear pits for?

Mark RogersSome islands have bear pits on them, but I'm not sure what I am supposed to do with them. What are the bear caves and what do they do? How do I harvest this resource?

 
That question is a perfect use case for tag wiki excerpts. I thought, "What the hell is Dawn of Discovery? And why don't more games have bear pits?"
 
10:34 PM
@Brant Re 2nd part: problems with disposal
 
Pff. How ironic that it is backing up that motivated me to clean out my hard drive.
Pff. How ironic that it is backing up that motivated me to clean out my hard drive.
 
10:50 PM
@ArdaXi Not much, really.
 
11:03 PM
@Aardvark diy.stackexchange.com ask it.
 
@lesspop best idea EVER
@lesspop I don't have the required 150 rep to tag it with bear-pit
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Q: Do It Yourself: Bear Pit

AardvarkSay I was considering building a zoo-like attraction. What steps could I use to create a bear pit in order to house and shelter my bears?

 
Could you tag it with Security?
I was thinking more of the trap variety personally
y'know, false ceiling, unsuspecting pedestrian... OH NO BEARS
 
lol perfect
security and storage are my tags
 
I had a difficult time wording it into a question I was hoping wouldn't get closed lol
@lesspop I can't wait to assign a bounty to it
 
11:17 PM
You'd need to earn some rep over there to manage that
 
If anyone has 150+ rep in the home improvement SE, could they kindly create and add the tag bear-pit to my post?
 
11:31 PM
That is so getting closed.
 
:(
we live in a sad time when a man can't ask for bear pit advice
 
Yo y'all. I need some free/indie platform games. Suggest me something!
Iji was awesome!
 
@nocan I'm not a huge indie gamer, what do you play on?
 
PC
 
hmm, fridays are pretty quiet around these parts
@gnome @mana can you guys request some good indie games?
 
11:37 PM
@NoCanDo vvvvvv?
 
Well, that's a start...
Ima goin' check it out!
 
@NoCanDo it's not free but it's cheap. There's a demo on Steam
 
doesn't have to be free. if its good, it's worth the money.
 
VVVVVV is pretty great
 
@Brant one of these days, I'll switch to one of them fancy modern backup systems
 
11:51 PM
for the love of god just do it it's so easy
you set it up and then you forget it exists until you need it
 
@Brant To be clear, my data is backed up
 
oh, good.
Never mind then!
 
My current system is just a convoluted mess of external hard drives in various places.
speaking of which, I need to call my uncle and figure out when I can pick up the hard drive he has...
 
I have a 1tb external drive that time machine backs up my entire hard disk to, and I pay ~$2.50/mo for offsite backup of my home folder (everything but apps/system, basically) through crashplan
 
 
11:53 PM
(in my infinite paranoia, several years ago I started doing semi-annual backups to two external hard drives, one is kept at my uncles place, and another, used in july is kept with a friend)
 
@Brant I'm on a total of 139.5 GB and scanning.
 
this is in addition to the extrenal drive that I keep connected to my desktop 100% of the time as a backup against more routine mechanical failures.
 
can somebody come up with a rational explanation of how a train travelling between point MO and point LE was able to get on a track that just isn't connected with the MO-LE railway
 
still scanning? I don't ever remember it taking THAT long. it's just building a file list...
 
440,600 files and counting.
 
11:55 PM
@ArdaXi man, there's no need to backup your game, music and movie torrents
:P
 
180k files/202gb
 
@badp Those are on a separate disk. ;-)
Deliberately, because it's an older drive and downloads will be read and written a lot more.
 
I don't back up my downloaded movies, I keep them on my time machine drive. Could care less if I lose that stuff, it's just transient -- I delete after I watch
 
@badp My music collection is 90% of my backups. I have some seriously rare shit, and the thought of having to rip most of this stuff again is the stuff of nightmares.
 
...and also because it would add another 130GB
 
11:56 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz I said "torrents", not "backups"
 
so... thats part of the reason stuff like crashplan doesn't work well for me. 400gb of music...
 
unless you put your backups on bittorrent
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz That's exactly what prompted me to finally get crashplan
 
then you're just smartly trolling the internet as a massively distributed backup sorta thing.
 
@badp some of the rare stuff is originally From The Internet.
 
11:57 PM
well the initial backup will take a month or two, but then it just backs up the new/changed stuff.
it's all block-level so it just transfers a diff.
 
I have actually used Usenet as a free off-site backup solution.
 
but yes, between videogames and the such I have a few gigabytes of music I don't backup and would mind losing.
I wouldn't cry about it, I mean
 
the thought of losing my carefully-curated music collection (ruined by an ex-girlfriend's addition of Coldplay, Nirvana, George Michael, and Remy Shand) makes me shiver.
 

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