@jscott - it gets real fun when you're moving shit around with a bunch of wimpy nerds, and you're the only "strong" guy there, really fun when they don't realize that you're carrying most of the load, then they let go.
@SpacemanSpiff I understand this completely. Helper loses grip on HP DL580G5, I end up with the front end, and full weight, settled into my hips. Gingerly turn to the rack, brought it down on the rails and slid it in. (disclaimer: I am not that strong, but I wasn't about to drop this thing)
Please, donot tell me to ask a better question. The problem here is I can't figure out how to move forward on this issue. I have a microsoft sql server 2005. I have SSRS. Its on a machine running windows server 2008 r2. The machine is quite strong. 48 cores, 128G of memory. But the iis work...
Hey @ChrisS, I have a question I'd like to ask on SF, but I don't know whether it would be considered a shopping question. I'm looking for a list of storage devices that support asynchronous replication with continuous guaranteed in order delivery (rather than frequent consistency points), as well as whether they support open systems only or mainframes too. Would this count as shopping?
After 7 yrs with 8 db servers & 12T of DAS, My company got a SAN a month ago. How long should it take to convert all systems to full SAN? Oh yeah. This month is the busiest time of year. and half those servers are production systems. And nearly all need Network Cards and MPIO. I doubt it...
@Basil That question would definitely be shopping... I think you could easily reword it to "Do any devices exist that do XYZ", also might want to mention what goal you're after in case there's another way to accomplish it.
The problem here is I can't figure out how to move forward on this issue.
Learn how computerss work.
The machine is quite strong. 48 cores, 128G of memory
Irrelevant when not needed.
But the iis worker processes, and the reportingservicesservice.exe never get over 0.05% > out of 10...
TomTom: "[I] spell check when I want. Want me to spell check - that is 150 USD per started hour." Can we start a fund? @PeterGrace is there some money avalible? :P
@tombull89 It wasn't - I flagged it as abusive. Abusing a frustrated admin who just doesn't quite get what's going on isn't good at all for the community.
Yeah, TomTom's never been one for self-deletion, regardless of how many downvotes he's got. I guessed someone (or, more likely, a couple of people) took offense and flagged it.
And really TomTom, at least try to be right: "How you know that? The cpu count is not "ofa CPU" but "of all CPU". 100% = all 48 cores busy. 0.05 pretty much = 1 core busy." Math fail.
@tombull89 Surprisingly, he does have the 'Peer Pressure' badge.
"Hey, TomTom, can you just give me a sanity check on this code, I'm sure it should work." "WTF, DUDE, YOUVE MISSED A COMMA. YOU FOOL - YOU SHOULDNT EVEN WORK HERE. WHATS WRONG WITH YOU. YOU SUCK. GET OFF OF THE PC" *stool + face happens here*
Just upgraded a room full of thin clients in preparation for testing on Monday. A class has just walked in and logged on. Oh well, guess we'll move that testing forward
@BartSilverstrim I know, but it doesn't make us look good and, really, "because it's the internet" is besides the point. But yeah, he certainly wouldn't upset me
@BartSilverstrim further to our twitter conversation from last night, I think this is one of those cases where regardless of whether or not he takes it personally, it would leave jerry with an awful feeling. He comes here, frustrated because he can't figure things out and asks a question, only to get a beatdown and told he should be working at McDonalds? Not acceptable. Just because we're on the Internet and trolls happen doesn't mean we should let it.
@BartSilverstrim But I know what you really mean: you need to have thick skin sometimes ;)
@Dan There are multiple ways to look at it. Personally he acts like a troll, and it's fun to watch what lunacy spouts from him. New people would be offended at times. And it doesn't help the image of the group. But to long timers they know he's like some kind of odd meme.
And the behavior isn't really anything all that special for the internet.
I'm just neutral. We get plenty of noobs that are abusive right off, and HUGE numbers more that won't even learn the community standards or FAQ before posting.
@BartSilverstrim It all comes down to respect for other people and their feelings / point of view. Whether the person in question is female, gay or a noob, they should be respected.
So if you want to assume that someone who doesn't want to post a decent question deserves the same respect you afford people who do, that's your choice too (not commenting on the question in question...I don't know reporting services enough to pay attention to the issue in this case)
I'm just talking in general.
@MikeyB That's fine and dandy. But I am tired of people beating their correctness drum when it goes overboard, or conflates it with other issues.
@BartSilverstrim Oh, that's just fine. Because you're saying "You're wrong!" rather than "You're a failure as a human being and you should work at McDonalds flipping burgers instead of in IT."
@BartSilverstrim And I'd only have a problem with that if people couldn't tell YOU that you're full of shit without you getting up in arms.
Really...and when it comes to sexism in IT, you hear how horrible <men> are towards women, completely ignoring the times people use these sexist tendencies to get ahead, in any profession. There's a reason magazine ads are airbrushed and "perfected" and models don't look like average people.
I realized the other day that in my young sysadmin days (when I was still in University) I was guilty of making an inappropriate joke to my quite capable fellow female sysadmin. It involved rack-mounting. Still feel bad.
@BartSilverstrim When I was younger and was really really good at Counterstrike (And, conversely, really bad at life), I used to logon sometimes with a girls name
Nothing pisses of hardcore CSers like "Gemma" coming in and blatting her way to the top of the board :D
I have no problems with people showing the same level of respect to a Questioner as the Questioner has shown to the Community. If you walk in with "I can haz teh Codez? Plz!" and someone tells them off, no problems. If someone walks in with "I'm a total Linux noob, what's the equivalent of DOS's 'dir' command to list files?" then they should get shoveled over to SU or Unix.SE; but nobody should be telling them off.
It's at the point where the word has no meaning other than "you hurt my feelings." True bullying has lost its meaning and minimizes the actual issue and actual victims.
Because you have this part of your lizard brain that looks at a person and at some level, the first thing you think, is whether you can mate with them or eat it. The wonders of propagating your genes.
Because as much as the religious ideals like to push it, you're still an animal.
And it doesn't JUST go male->female. There are girls in the high school making inappropriate comments about particular male teachers.
So if you wonder why there seems to be more of it in tech, it's because women usually shy away from technology, so it's disproportionate. There never was a coalition to drive women out of tech.
And it's idiotic to think there was such a conspiracy, or else they wouldn't circle like sharks whenever a cute female admin walks into the room. They'd want MORE women in the field.
More likely is that women do not like interacting in the confrontational "meritacracy" of geekdom, where we settle our problems by browbeating and arguing.
@BartSilverstrim How'd you like it if you walked in a room and were circled by a bunch of gay sysadmins commenting on how nice it was to have a pretty boy admin? (as a thought exercise)
But I wasn't being sarcastic in my answer, to the question about a gay person telling me I have a nice <whatever>. Okay...thanks. I don't go that way, but it's nice that you find me attractive in some way...that would be my answer.
You just act like a human being to another human being. If she establishes a line not to be crossed, you don't cross it. If you do, you're an ass and deserve to be dealt with by HR. But holding a door for a female shouldn't mean a trip to HR because she's offended you implied she's incapable of doing it herself or because she suspects you were doing it to stare at her posterior.
@MikeyB yeah, but it's always a big thing on Twitter. Poke freebsdgirl on there for a more balanced perspective (which basically boils down to "Get over the fact that you have breasts and a vagina - do good work and the vast majority of people will respect you for it."
@ChrisS Was it palletized*? HP Doesn't love you if it didn't come shrinkwrapped on a pallet
@voretaq7 No; but I know where their warehouse is, about 3 miles away. The package went clear across town to get to UPS's depot, then all the way back to get to me.
And there are a significant number of people who, when offended by something, write it off as being sexism because it's easier to claim that (and simultaneously paint the other person as biased) than face the possibility they're a moron.
Works in other fields too by and large. People in NASCAR respect Danica Patrick because she's a pretty damn good driver. (And many of us frown disapprovingly because she did those ridiculous godaddy commercials)
@tombull89 That one was genuinely my fault - Markdown actually wasn't broken for once!
(but if I were less honest I could say FUCKING MARKDOWN and probably get away with it because of markdown's aggregate FAIL-factor :)
It's not because I'm in IT that I admit to staring at Danica Patrick's boobs. It's because I'm a straight male with genes encoded to propagate the species and I have no idea what the attraction to NASCAR is to respect her abilities (or lack thereof) in that field. This does not mean, however, that if I met her I'd grab her genitalia.
@BartSilverstrim but isn't that how you greet someone? Sniff them and prod them in the crotch with your cold wet nose? Things I learned from my mom's dog!
Good friend of mine does a radio show for the CFL. She's kind of funny - she can't perceive 3D but can read all of the player's tells and knows football better than just about everybody. And still gets talked down to / dismissed / etc. And girls thought it was hard to make it in IT… it's a cakewalk compared to football.
Of all the places I've worked and people I know, I know one proper female technician. I have a number of female friends with a "casual" interest in compuetrs and IT but I'm more likely to have a proper in-depth chat about storage or VMWare with a male friend. IT has always been a male-dominated field because computers have always been a "geek" thing for guys. Granted, I'd love to have a female techician to bounce ideas off and chat to but they are very rare.
@MikeyB I can only speak from my experiences, my perceptions, etc...
And my own personal opinion.
I'm not in an environment where I see women routinely disregarded because they have breasts, so to speak. Does it happen? I don't know. Probably.
But I also think there's a tendency to SEXIST ALL THE THINGS when a person doesn't want to get in someone's face about why rsync isn't the best backup solution for their particular case.
@BartSilverstrim There's the difficulty in it. It's hard to empathize sometimes when I've never been abused, sexualized, etc. On the other hand, when the Columbine incident happened all I could think of was 'Wow, I feel bad for the kids that did the shooting.'
I respect people who can help me learn more about the field. I don't care if they're younger or older or male, female, straight, gay, or sentient dolphin.
@tombull89 I have a friend who is a totally badass sysadmin and is female. I'm scared of her based on how knowledgeable she is. She's a firecracker and can handily whoop my ass.
A woman will most likely get as much or more respect by being competent and being able to shout down a coworker with a technically superior solution to a problem.
@BartSilverstrim Because as you mentioned, men and women think about things differently. Just to make up some numbers, I figure men and women are great at 80% of tasks, men alone are good at 10% and women alone are good at 10%. I'm looking for that last 10%.
I sometimes feel like girls say that IT is a boys club because they want to make a problem out of it. For the most part, I think that IT guys are pretty welcoming of the opposite sex. They generally can't talk to girls, which makes for a quiet day at the office for the lady.
It's not OK. I think that having a woman around as a sysadmin would be a delight. I find that for the most part, girls approach some problems differently and that can sometimes lead to an answer the guys never saw coming.
@MikeyB you really want to be chatbanned don't you.
And it's crazy to act like the opposite doesn't happen, or that there's not selective enforcement of this idea, or else your magazine racks wouldn't have the covers they do.
@BartSilverstrim Oh man one of those "weapons" guys. How many weapons do you get before you're one of those "sword" guys with all the swords, and they're always inviting you over to come look at their sword collection?
They concluded that women who feel harassed aren't being singled out. Men sexually harass each other all day every day, so when they do it to a female coworker, they're merely including her in the hijinks
Actually there was probably a bit of reverse sexism. If someone gave her shit there were a number of guys who'd probably have beaten the sexism out of them for harassing her...like a "kid sister" syndrome.
@BartSilverstrim It's like having a boa constrictor as a pet. You don't just HAVE one, you become "that guy with the snake" and you have to walk around during parades holding the snake.
Please, donot tell me to ask a better question. The problem here is I can't figure out how to move forward on this issue. I have a microsoft sql server 2005. I have SSRS. Its on a machine running windows server 2008 r2. The machine is quite strong. 48 cores, 128G of memory. But the iis work...
The problem here is I can't figure out how to move forward on this issue.
Learn how computerss work.
The machine is quite strong. 48 cores, 128G of memory
Irrelevant when not needed.
But the iis worker processes, and the reportingservicesservice.exe never get over 0.05% > out of 10...
