Root Access

DavidPostill

4:01 PM

@BenN I suppose you must be a benefactor then? ;)

Ben N

Ayyy

Rahul2001

@BenN That's... interesting.

Arin

hey. Is there any way to get root without privilege escalation exploits and without requiring physical access?

and without dictionary attacks or brute force attacks of course

Ben N

I believe anything that allows an unprivileged user to become root is by definition an exploit

Arin

Okay ;)

kernel version 3.16.0-4-amd64 on Debian 8

DavidPostill

4:31 PM

@Arin Answering that question is probably against the SE Terms of Service ...

Arin

There seems to be a community dedicated to it, so I'm not sure about that:
https://security.stackexchange.com/

DavidPostill

@Arin That site is about protecting your system not hacking into other peoples :)

Read security.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic

Ich weine SU keine Träne nach

Good evening everybody

bertieb

Hi o/

Ich weine SU keine Träne nach

4:48 PM

got it...yeah, that's known good tech support tactics...don't react, he/she will find it her/himself eventually :)

bertieb

About privilege escalation exploits?

Hellooooo

Hi!

Hey Rahul

4:53 PM

Side rant: have been searching for a way of doing X (programming related), with lots of related/tangential info in search results. Could swear I've seen an approach somewhere but cannot for life of me find it. Many SO tabs open. Eventually happen to spot something vaguely useful after expanding a comments stack (may have been visible)-- this is why answers in comments are bad :(

45 minutes and one nascent migraine later

If the promising avenue of enquiry is indeed useful, I reckon it's worth a self-answer

I'm sure SO is just a newbie-friendly as SU...

(side rant over, we now return you to your regular scheduled programming)

tereško

5:08 PM

store.steampowered.com/app/208140/?snr=1_7_7_204_150_1

Endless Space is for 1€ today

djsmiley2k

@Arin er

you didnt say u dont have root access, so su??

@bertieb so w

so, what is it?

even

bertieb

So what is it? - Red Dwarf - BBC

►

Figuring out how to do a post-file-write-export actions (basically say where to store/share) in Android using Cordova

Seems that the file opener plugin is the way to go, counter-intuitively

Also, not a core plugin

We shall see

That Brazilian Guy

5:53 PM

@JourneymanGeek Yes, but you often use ping to reply to things said pages before and it makes it difficult to ~~stalk you~~ know what's going on

@tereško Is it a good buy for someone who never played 4X strategy games?

tereško

@ThatBrazilianGuy hard to tell. It actually might, since the fights are extremely simplified (as in - card based).

That Brazilian Guy

@tereško Eew, card based fights.

tereško

well ... kinda

battles are automated, with 3 stages, where you pick the overall strategy for each stage

but, it's 1€

that's like a half-a-beer

That Brazilian Guy

How come there's two of you?

tereško

SO's CDN might be crashing

That Brazilian Guy

6:00 PM

@tereško It's $ 3.50 to me. And a beer here is around $12.

And beers in Euro are european beers, so obvisouly better than the diluted piss we drink.

tereško

hmm ... strange

might be only for EU market

That Brazilian Guy

Steam charges different prices (even AFTER conversion) based on your country.

For instance: steamdb.info/app/208140

This one varies from 0.97 to 1.25 USD, but I've seen far wider variations

This one is 1.40 USD for Russia and 3.17 USD in Euro: steamdb.info/app/360740

bertieb

@ThatBrazilianGuy If you want a second opinion, I found it a bit "meh" to be honest

Not bad at all, but very reminiscent of other 4X/ space-based games

Not a regrettable at EUR1, but not sure about USD3.5 (/ BRL ??)

That Brazilian Guy

6:16 PM

@bertieb BRL 3.5. Well, it's about one bus ticket or 1/3rd of a beer.

Still undecided. Might end up buying on impulse, statistically that's what happens :P

bertieb

Ah, my mistake, slightly less than USD3.5 then?

@ThatBrazilianGuy The other 100 games you've bought and never played are calling :P

tereško

yeah, well, if you want a good 4X, then you should look at "Endless Legend" or "Stellaris"

That Brazilian Guy

@bertieb You mean the other 500+ ?

bertieb

@ThatBrazilianGuy Well yeah, but I didn't want to presume...

tereško

/me has only 200-ish games

bertieb

6:18 PM

(that you are as 'bad' as I am :P)

tereško

then again, I have finished almost 40 of them

That Brazilian Guy

In my defense, it's spread over 5 years and 95% of them were bought in Humble Bundle or similar promos and I've ever paid more than USD 3 for a game once or twice.

bertieb

Similar to what I keep telling myself :P

That Brazilian Guy

HAhahahahahahahah oh god.

bertieb

OTOH, I could get about the same amount of use as burning the money (well less because heat) so

@ThatBrazilianGuy You already have it? :P

That Brazilian Guy

6:20 PM

No, no, I just found it sadfunny that we tell each other the same excuses.

tereško

you should try running this on your profile

steamdb.info/calculator

bertieb

Oh, right

Because I totally haven't bought a game that I already had without realising it

tereško

here is what results look like: steamdb.info/calculator/76561198061728346/?cc=eu

bertieb

And it wasn't on Steam, despite me already having it via Humble Store (warning: tvtropes)

That Brazilian Guy

Current account value: $5100
Total cost with sales: $1022

Well, with current sales, not with past sales, I suppose.

bertieb

6:22 PM

I don't like that "hours on record" stat on mine

tereško

I think it's "past sales"

bertieb

Or, well, any of them

That Brazilian Guy

529 Games not played (79%)
.____.

tereško

:D

bertieb

scurries off to to do something productive with life

That Brazilian Guy

6:24 PM

Well, I put it like that: when I was a kid, I wanted to have consoles but didn't have money. Now I do have the money, but not the time.

bertieb

6:44 PM

Some hae meat and canna eat,
And some wad eat that want it,
But we hae meat and we can eat,
And sae the Lord be thankit.

djsmiley2k

such pain in my body

why why why :(

tereško

huh?

djsmiley2k

@tereško sry

just.... dying today

anyway, i got a samsung evo 850

ssd

is that a ok ssd?> X!

Twisty

I want to ask the question "Is it possible to replace the access token of a running process with restarting it?" Suggestions on which SE site to use?

djsmiley2k

stack overflow

Twisty

6:56 PM

Will the question be on-topic even though I'm not interested in how (seeing as I don't code well enough to pull it off)?

djsmiley2k

welp that's not a good question for the sites in general

Twisty

Why don't you think so?

I could always ask "How do I replace the access token'..."

djsmiley2k

c

@Twisty 'questions should be based on a real world problem'

Twisty

I know that. I want to elevate and already-running instance of Command Prompt from a user access token to an administrator access token.

Without restarting the process or starting a new one.

bertieb

@djsmiley2k Hope so! I got one recently too :)

djsmiley2k

7:10 PM

:D

had mine awhile

only realised what model it was today ( I thought I had a sandisk o_O)

Ben N

@Twisty I am under the impression that a process's token is fixed at its creation

You can switch privileges on or off, but that's it

Twisty

@BenN As am I, but I'm struggling to find documentation of that fact.

DavidPostill

22

A: Elevate a running program to administrator (Windows 7)

Unfortunately, no. A running process cannot be elevated to administrator privileges. I'm looking for a more authoritative source, but for now I have found: "Programs can't be elevated once they've already been launched..." "Code can only be elevated at process level when startup, which means ...

Twisty

Booyah! Not exactly MSDN, but a whole lot more than nothing

Ben N

You might be able to force a running thread to impersonate

Not the same as replacing the primary token, but it's something

With incredible amounts of kernel hackery you could probably change the primary token by groveling around in internal data structures

@Twisty Just found this from someone who claims to be a Windows kernel dev:

> The NT kernel was never intended to allow token switching once a process started running. This is because handles, etc. may have been opened in an old security context, inflight operations may use inconsistent security contexts, etc. As such, it typically does not make sense to switch a process' token once it has begun execution. However, this was not enforced until Vista.

DavidPostill

7:23 PM

This might be interesting reading Why Can’t I Elevate My Application to Run As Administrator While Using CreateProcessWithLogonW?

Ben N

(source)

Twisty

I Googled for almost 45 minutes and found nothing definitive. This is very helpful.

djsmiley2k

8:03 PM

superuser.com/review/first-posts/646239

so much bold

Ben N

Would have been a good use of your fancy new unilateral edit privileges :)

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Not any more :)

Hennes

8:47 PM

Browing for a simple powered USB3 hub I ran into this:

amazon.de/…

USB2.. but... M2 interface. On a USB hub. Whut?

Twisty

They mean M2 card reader. Must be a typo

Meow Mix

9:08 PM

Umm, I have a question about hardware, is it okay to ask here?

DavidPostill

Yes, but it's very quiet. We might not be able to answer it ...

allquixotic

don't ask to ask; just ask!

Meow Mix

I was just asking, because I wasn't sure whether to ask here or StackOverflow

allquixotic

stackoverflow is an even worse place to ask a "question about hardware", generally

DavidPostill

@MeowMix Good timing. One of our hardware experts has just turned up!

allquixotic

9:11 PM

but without knowing what your actual question is (which is why you should just ask instead of asking to ask), I don't know where to direct you

Hennes

Going verty meta He could ask if he could ask to ask if he could ask.

allquixotic

it never hurts to simply ask your actual question -- worst case, if we don't like it, we'll tell you -- describing your question in general terms like "about hardware" doesn't give us enough information to tell you if we can help you or not

Meow Mix

I'm typing it out right now...

:/

Twisty

Me: "Can I ask you a question?"

You: "You just did."

allquixotic

@Twisty lol. in real life it's different :P

Meow Mix

9:14 PM

@Twisty You could say "I am going to ask you a question. If you do not want me to, then tell me."

Hennes

Nope. I've done that many times.

DavidPostill

@Twisty Please go back to your maze of twisty little passages, all alike :)

Twisty

I vaguely recall that exchange happening between Data and another Star Trek officer.

@DavidPostill They're full of candy

Meow Mix

Actually, whatever, I'll think about this question later. Right now I have to get used to 6502...

allquixotic

@MeowMix leaving us hanging? now that's disappointing! :P

Hennes

9:17 PM

It has been ages since IO coded on a 6502. Mostly using a powercartrigdge

F2

A c000

sei

lad #$0D

sta $0314

etc

..

Twisty

I love questions. I have crocodile tears right now.

Meow Mix

stop with that monstrosity I'm used to MIPS :(

MIPS gets kind of ugly because of 16 bit immediates though

@allquixotic I was just looking for a VGA graphics card that had only text mode

DavidPostill

You: "Can I ask you a question?"
Me: "You can but you may not"
:)

Meow Mix

@DavidPostill I used to have a teacher where whenever someone would ask "Can I go to the bathroom" he would reply "I don't know, can you?"

And whenever someone said "wait" he'd say "I'm waiting" and walk away

DavidPostill

@MeowMix Quite right too. People need to learn the difference between "can" and "may" :)

You: You smell.
Me: I smell, you stink!

Twisty

9:25 PM

@DavidPostill LOL.

DavidPostill

The wonders of English ambiguity :)

allquixotic

@MeowMix only text mode? you'll have to look for a blast from the past for that, probably; any modern kit would have at least 2D graphics

Hennes

9:52 PM

Doesn't any VGA card do 640x480 graphics by definition.

So I guess MeowMix meant some kind out generic output 'graphics' card.
And not actual VGA

Meow Mix

I guess it doesn't have to be VGA...

DavidPostill

@MeowMix You need an MDA card :)

IBM Monochrome Display Adapter

The Monochrome Display Adapter (MDA, also MDA card, Monochrome Display and Printer Adapter, MDPA) is IBM's standard video display card and computer display standard for the PC introduced in 1981. The MDA did not have any pixel-addressable graphics modes. It had only a single monochrome text mode (PC video mode 7), which could display 80 columns by 25 lines of high resolution text characters or symbols useful for drawing forms. Based on the IBM Datamaster's display system, the standard IBM MDA card was equipped with four kilobytes (kB) of video memory. The MDA's high character resolution (sharpness...

bertieb

@MeowMix Coincidentally, I was discussing a similar teacher we had with some friends this morning, who used to say the exact same thing

Fortunately he was actually funny in addition to that :P

Meow Mix

@DavidPostill That's exactly what I saw yesterday and wanted, but alas, I couldn't find it anywhere :(

Heh, it's even in my search history

DavidPostill

lol

bertieb

10:04 PM

Is it just me, or should this self answer have a bit more... info?

0

Q: Acer Aspire R11 Windows Tablet not booting up?

My Aspire R11 does not boot up and is stuck in a reboot loop with no screen showing. Any ideas?

acer-aspire

Meow Mix

@DavidPostill I mean, I could just buy a regular cheap video card and use its text mode, no?

DavidPostill

10:21 PM

@MeowMix You could, but you said "I was just looking for a VGA graphics card that had only text mode"

Twisty

10:45 PM

@bertieb That question needs more detail. The answer is a bit sparce too, though.

Journeyman Geek

@MeowMix on a modern system you would have to.

Gerold Broser

11:04 PM

hi

DavidPostill

hi

Gerold Broser

i created a bookmark in an other room but how to recall it?

DavidPostill

@GeroldBroser You need to give us some clues. Which room was it?

Gerold Broser

@DavidPostill isn't it the same in each room? anyway: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/71/the-h-bar

Ben N

It's on the "conversations" tab of your chat profile

chat.stackexchange.com/users/276224/…

DavidPostill

11:09 PM

@GeroldBroser What do you mean by a bookmark?

Gerold Broser

@DavidPostill

ACuriousMind
7:30 PM
@GeroldBroser Click on the "room" menu in the upper right, then choose "create new bookmark"

DavidPostill

@GeroldBroser Ah. TIL

Gerold Broser

@DavidPostill TIL? You know how to recall it?

Ben N

@GeroldBroser It's on the "conversations" tab of your chat profile

chat.stackexchange.com/users/276224/…

Gerold Broser

I see, thx

DavidPostill

11:14 PM

@GeroldBroser Things I Learn or Today I Learned

Gerold Broser

@BenN I see, thx

Ben N

Ah, sorry - I thought you had missed my first posting of that :)

Gerold Broser

@DavidPostill got it. but...you're...mod?

@BenN I actually had, indeed. :)

DavidPostill

@GeroldBroser That doesn't make me an expert of every part of SE :)

I've never used chat bookmarks before. I store bookmarks in my browser :)

Gerold Broser

@DavidPostill fair point :)

DavidPostill

11:18 PM

lot at

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