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Q: Is This Question On-Topic

I don't really want to make a decision on it, although it it is probably not on topic. What do you think? The year is 2055, you are an advanced, self-aware, kind robot who only wants to do good. You were hacked into and forced to kill an entire race, powerless to stop, you blame yourself afte...

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1:54 PM

I spend hours on a blog post
I write just one answer more
And it’s quiet in chat
I never liked the quiet before
I skim the featured tab each morning
A sign of the rep that's in store
And I smile
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Journeyman Geek

woof

@FutureHistorian On one hand. people forget Coimbature. On the other I like it too much to get nuked.

Also, does pakistan even have 15 cities worth nuking? ;p

2:35 PM

Man...who knew an objective look at ethics could get me downvotes...

oh wait. Everyone knew that. :D

@HDE226868 Poetic

2 hours later…

4:14 PM

@AndreiROM How'd you get bert and ernie?

4:29 PM

@James And stolen/modified from Hamilton.

@HDE226868 Nicely done

This is regrettably not the first time I've done so. But it does provide a generous source for parody material.

Well have a star either way.

Awww, thanks.

:D

Future Historian

4:47 PM

Back.

And yes, it got nuked.

>:)

@JourneymanGeek

@FutureHistorian Did you ever ask that question we were talking about?

Future Historian

Which one?

The one about the nuclear targets in India and Pakistan?

...something about china...I think...was that you?

Future Historian

Or the one about the hypothetical political parties in a post-PRC China?

Yeah that's the one

Future Historian

4:52 PM

Meh.

I already did some research, since I need to stop being lazy.

...I'm bored at work today.

Future Historian

Well, how much in terms of the long-term effects of the Great Pacific War am I looking at?

If anyone has an AH.com account?

Referring to this: alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/….

Can't see it from work... :/

Future Historian

Oh.

Noted.

Well, brief summary, a pro-China leadership in the Philippines is hit by a military coup d'etat sponsored by the CIA, it fails, and US Navy vs PLA Navy skirmish breaks out near the Spratly Islands.

That sounds like a bad and not wholly unrealistic scenario...

Future Historian

5:00 PM

The Americans invade the Philippines, China responds with a declaration of war, Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia join the Americans, followed by North Korea with the Chinese, then South Korea and Japan join in, Taiwan is forced into the war after missile strikes against Taipei set the stage for the First Battle of Taipei, Taiwan falls, while the KPA is stopped short of Seoul, Thailand joins China, Malaysia fights Thailand, Vietnam is attacked by PLA forces, and that is not all......

India and Pakistan fight in Kashmir and Lahore (India joins the States and Pakistan China), North Korea falls apart, China threatens to nuke Korea, Japan and North America, India and Pakistan nuke each other and after a month, the PRC falls as PLA forces coup Xi Jingping's government and the CPC.

War is over, but millions are dead in the Indian subcontinent alone, and refugees begin to make things a problem, and 700,000 are dead in the conventional confrontation.

Any opinions on it?

5:17 PM

From a cursory glance it makes sense to me. The details would be complicated to work out...

Future Historian

Exactly.

Most of the fighting was air and naval, while there was conventional fighting on the ground.

:P

Well, if discounting the nuclear hellstorm in India and Pakistan, 700,000 are dead.

Counting the firestorm though, means adding 21.061 million to the body count.

And that is not even counting the post-War deaths from the fallout.

And radiation.

And refugees.

...that would suck

Future Historian

Agreed.

But what are the long-term side effects from 2025 (when the conflict occurs) to 2100?

Since truth be told: the war lasted a month.

Well, technically, one month, one week and two days.

So.........

Yeah nukes are pretty ridiculous.

Future Historian

The nuclear firestorm in India and Pakistan was hours before the conflict ended.

So...

Anyway, from immediately after the conflict ends to the end of the century, what am I looking at?

NOTE: For reference, 120 30 to 50 kt strategic warheads went off in total.

And a still undecided number of tactical warheads.

Journeyman Geek

5:25 PM

@James what a strange game... the only way to win is not to play ;)

Future Historian

#1980sMovieReferences.

So, with all seriousness.

What am I looking at in the long-term from 2025 to 2100?

Journeyman Geek

but of course ;p

...nothing good.

Future Historian

Specifics would be nice.

lol

Future Historian

5:26 PM

But I can see the point.

Either way, I am going to ask in the site.

Well Pakistan and India would be irradiated wastelands

Journeyman Geek

eh, they're big countries

even if you hit those places, you literally just hit the fringes

120 nukes is a lot of nukes. Even if not directly hit...

Journeyman Geek

bangalore and hydrabad are more important than my beloved cbe anyway ;p

Future Historian

Well, I did use these targets with 27 warheads in total:

Lahore

Mumbai

New Delhi

Karachi
Islambaad
Peshawar
Kolkatta
Chenai

Faisalabad
Hyderabad
Jaipur
Pune
Agra
Kanpur
Faridabad
Coimbatore
Lucknow

Oh, these are 17 cities, and 2 more detonated in New Delhi, 3 in Karachi and 5 in Islambaad.

So.............

These are 27 out of 120 warheads.

The remainder hit military targets.

Journeyman Geek

5:30 PM

ah. Bangalore's kinda the IT hub. Alas, inda's supply of blenders would dry up if you hit cbe

Future Historian

>:)

Make that 28, then.

Alright.

Bangalore has been added as an 18th major city to be hit.

Journeyman Geek

Never liked em anyway

Future Historian

5:45 PM

Alright.

The question is up.

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Q: What would be the long-term implications of the Great Pacific War I created from the immediate aftermath until the end of the 21st Century?

Well, I created this military conflict called the Great Pacific War as a scenario to simulate a hypothetical direct confrontation between the States and China, and before I ask my main question, I will add this link: The Great Pacific War Timeline on AH.com If that fails, then fine. Brief summ...

reality-check society history military nuclear

So, anyone have a good answer for this one?

Or am I going to have to wait a while?

:/

Mithrandir24601

I'm afraid the link requires a login to the alternate history website :/

Future Historian

An account, in other words.

But calm down, I gave a summary in there.

I knew some would be unable to access the link. So I gave a brief summary.

Er..........

Houston, we have a problem here!

Future Historian

6:18 PM

Oh oh......

@James huh?

Future Historian

Hello, @dot_Sp0T.

6:51 PM

Hey

Future Historian

Did you see the question?

I've just come online into this chat, please enlighten me :)

Future Historian

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Q: What would be the long-term implications of the Great Pacific War I created from the immediate aftermath until the end of the 21st Century?

Well, I created this military conflict called the Great Pacific War as a scenario to simulate a hypothetical direct confrontation between the States and China, and before I ask my main question, I will add this link: The Great Pacific War Timeline on AH.com If that fails, then fine. Brief summ...

reality-check society history military nuclear

This one.

:P

Yes, I VTC'd it

It has potential, but to ask about long-term implications is an automatic too broad in my book; Why not take some time to make a list of things that are important/essential for you to know and then make it a series of question, each asking about one of these things and the likelyhood of it happening/it's implications in a defined set of changes

?

Future Historian

Alright.

6:59 PM

On another note: We're currently ranking 13th in the winterbash2016 with some 1.5k hats.. GET GOING YOU SLACKERS!

Future Historian

So?

Is the question going to be closed or is it fixed?

Future Historian

7:18 PM

So?

@dot_Sp0T?

Fixed it.

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Q: What would be the implications of the Great Pacific War I created for the remainder of the 2020s and the next decade?

Well, I created this military conflict called the Great Pacific War as a scenario to simulate a hypothetical direct confrontation between the States and China, and before I ask my main question, I will add this link: The Great Pacific War Timeline on AH.com If that fails, then fine. Brief summ...

reality-check society history military nuclear

1 hour later…

Future Historian

8:30 PM

Test.

I am back.

Wait, what happened?

Die Chat ist tot?

*Das

Der*

Future Historian

Thank you.

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