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8:00 PM
@NathanOsman what the ubuntu
 
@KazWolfe now we're getting somewhere
 
now git commit
and then git remote add origin <url>
then git push
 
@NathanOsman Very Low Quality :/
 
And finally git gud
 
My kidney is low quality???
 
8:01 PM
@KazWolfe probably git push -u origin master
 
@KazWolfe how do I confirm the commit?
 
Why confirm?
 
@Zacharee1 git log
 
type a commit message
 
8:01 PM
I did
and now what
ah
it's nano
 
@Zacharee1 85% of bugs be like
:P
 
yay it works
 
@Zacharee1 Where's your GitHub repository?
 
so then I guess anyone can add suggestions right?
 
Well, if it was Vim, most people would be still writing commit messages, unable to quit the editor...
 
8:03 PM
@ByteCommander my commit message in Vim: ;;wrg;rgbb;;fefwrgwroiefoirg;;;wrgwrgwqq
 
You will be very pleased with userstyles.org
 
Unless I'm wrong you can host your script right off Github. @Zacharee1
something about github.io I think
 
@MarkYisri probably
but I like this cloud9 editor
 
@Zacharee1 I can say it's very good.
It's a joy to work with with awesome file history capability
 
@Zacharee1 Fine, but is it an Always-On VM?
 
8:04 PM
@KazWolfe so now that I've set that stuff up, I just need pull commit and push right?
@MarkYisri it hasn't turned off yet
afaik
 
Just a simple commit message
^X^X^X^C^C^Z
exit
quit
!exit
!!exit
help
info
HALP!!!
Oh fsck you....
sudo reboot
3
^ would be my commit message in Vim @Zacharee1
 
xD
 
@Zacharee1 But it's not always-on if you're a free user
 
Maybe I should change the source to Github then...
 
@Zacharee1 yes
 
8:06 PM
but while it's in-dev, I'll keep it on cloud9
because changes are faster that way
 
I just use nano for small text editing
 
@Zacharee1 why?
 
one day I'll learn vim, one day..
 
GitHub allows for better collaboration
 
Can I edit from Github?
 
8:06 PM
@IanC Just vimtutor it :)
 
for now I know ":q"
hahaha
 
ooh I can
 
@Rinzwind @KazWolfe you got your promised votes. :)
 
vimtutor?
 
@Zacharee1 Yes! You can even clone the repository locally:)
@IanC it's a small program that comes with Vim
It teaches you Vim, with Vim
 
8:07 PM
I don't like the Github editor
no IDE features
 
@Zacharee1 then clone locally
 
@grooveplex nice! I will try it, but I still didn't install vim
 
but then I have to push it anyway
 
@Zacharee1 yeah... so?
 
actually, I'm confused because ubuntu has a vim, which is vi, which I don't know what is actually
 
8:08 PM
@Zacharee1 Then use the Online GitHub editor.
VIM (Vi Improved) is an extension of the classic vi editor with more features.
 
@IanC vim is VI iMproved. Gedit? :D
 
@Zacharee1 u no use git???
 
@grooveplex "Gedit" nice one :)
 
@grooveplex Well that's why I want to use cloud9 to edit and host for now
 
@edwinksl dis
 
8:09 PM
it's faster to see changes
 
when I type vi it opens an editor
 
@Zacharee1 I submitted a pull request.
 
saying Vi iMproved
 
I saw @MarkYisri
 
on Github
 
8:09 PM
but vim does nothing
 
how do I actually see what you changed though? :p
 
it's like some simplified version of vim?
 
I see your pull req
 
@IanC woah.... and what does vimtutor do?
@Zacharee1 click and see the diff
 
are you on github @Zacharee1 or on command line
 
8:09 PM
not currently installed
 
there it is
Github
 
/usr/bin/vi -> /etc/alternatives/vi
 
@IanC aw maaaaaaaan. Get Vim. It's great
 
@grooveplex Agreed.
Or use emacs, or nano
 
I think I need to study Regex first, don't I?
to use it on its full potential?
 
8:11 PM
@IanC no
 
Anyone here doing anything with @WolfBot?
 
Regex is easy.
 
@IanC maybe
 

 WolfBot's Testing Den

Do not feed the bot any Milk-Bones! A piece of kibble is okay,...
 
@MarkYisri That one belongs to @KazWolfe, I think?
 
8:11 PM
Yeah, just pointing it out to people. Not stealing credit :)
 
OK, I found prose.io, which seems a bit nicer than the inbuilt GH editor
 
@grooveplex I mean, other than Regex, what makes Vim better than other editors? (honest question)
I just don't know its features well enough to know
 
Okay, I'm officially bored. Any suggestions?
 
@IanC You have absolutely no obligation to leave your current editor
 
@IanC there's gvim too.
See this question.
7
Q: Advantages (or downsides) of GVim over Vim to edit code

Michael DurrantShould I install vim or GVim ? I develop mainly Ruby on Rails (I also use IDE's, but different topic). Are there any differences or advantage of using Gvim vs vim ?

 
 
@grooveplex bro, it was an honest question, I just never used vim. Being able to edit with Regex was one of the features that seemed to make vim powerful, but apart from that I don't really know what else makes it good
 
@Zacharee1 your git commit messages are argh
 
@edwinksl. Yep.
 
@MarkYisri I'll take a look, people usually program with gvim?
 
8:16 PM
@edwinksl wat
 
@edwinksl VTCed as unclear. From what I understand with my medium Spanish skills, it would still be unclear after translation anyway...
 
No, just pointing it out @IanC.
 
@Zacharee1 there are gonna be a lot of these...
 
I use Emacs, Nano, and Eclipse.
 
@edwinksl :p
 
8:17 PM
@edwinksl saw that too
 
It's just for the rapid-fire changes
 
@Zacharee1 at least you did commit a lot of such things, so you were consistent
 
there's gonna be more
as soon as I fix my source links
 
don't forget your commit messages can be seen by the world
is this how you want us to remember u???
 
@edwinksl Haha
 
8:18 PM
@ByteCommander heh yeah i can't understand anything :(
 
@Zacharee1 You don't have to commit every time you change a line in a file.
 
well I'm using an external editor
I wonder if it saves remotely
 
git push --delete --force master
good bye cruel world
 
@MarkYisri oh i see you have a PR already. nice :p
 
o_O
 
8:21 PM
when I make a really small change I forgot on the last commit I usually just do a git commit --amend
 
@edwinksl Don't understand you?
 
the most useful command is git add -p
you will thank me for this
@MarkYisri pull request for zach's repo
 
@edwinksl Yeah I thought it would be useful in case someone searched online.
 
user136984
Need some help here:
 
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0
Q: What to do about update-initramfs errors during kernel upgrade?

Paranoid PandaI just ran: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade And this is the output I got from the second commands: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following NEW packages will be installed linux-...

 
8:23 PM
@ByteCommander that it does
 
gotta get ready for work, see you all later!
 
user136984
Scared to restart my system and it's getting late so I will need to shutdown soon.
 
@ParanoidPanda VIRUS
 
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@KazWolfe: Don't say that.
 
@KazWolfe Don't scare him like that... He'd get grey hairs.
Imagine an albino panda.
 
8:24 PM
Github as a source sends the CSS as text/plain instead of CSS
so it's not working
 
@ParanoidPanda what is the result if you run in a terminal ls /boot
 
@ParanoidPanda is that a VM? I noticed this line gzip: stdout: No space left on device
 
@IanC Maybe it's out of space. Good catch.
 
Thanks! I just had that a lot while compiling a kernel on VM, who would say 20Gb isn't much space for a kernel compilation? haha
now I really need to go, didn't even have lunch yet :o
have a good day everyone!
 
What kernel were you compiling @IanC? they don't take up much space for me.
 
user136984
8:27 PM
@IanC No, it's my host.
 
@ParanoidPanda posted an answer to your question
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A: What to do about update-initramfs errors during kernel upgrade?

Mark YisriYour computer is out of disk space. Free up some by checking the contents of /boot, /usr, and /opt (culprits where disk space is used. Then rerun the command.

 
Hi guys!
 
user136984
@MarkYisri: Right, the contents of /boot is:
 
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abi-4.4.0-34-generic                  lost+found
abi-4.4.0-36-generic                  memtest86+.bin
abi-4.4.0-38-generic                  memtest86+.elf
config-4.4.0-34-generic               memtest86+_multiboot.bin
config-4.4.0-36-generic               System.map-4.4.0-34-generic
config-4.4.0-38-generic               System.map-4.4.0-36-generic
efi                                   System.map-4.4.0-38-generic
grub                                  vmlinuz-4.4.0-34-generic
initrd.img-4.4.0-34-generic           vmlinuz-4.4.0-34-generic.efi.signed
 
8:29 PM
So you have no initrd for the 38 kernel.
 
@SeverusTux Math.SE is bigger than Ask Ubuntu! :D
 
@ParanoidPanda I'd suggest to free up space (find out where using df -h) and then redo the upgrade as Kaz suggested in his comment.
 
@ParanoidPanda is this an EFI machine?
 
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@IanC @MarkYisri: I'm not even using a quarter of my almost 500GB harddrive.
 
df -h?
 
user136984
8:30 PM
Unless there are caps in certain areas?
 
@ParanoidPanda show us the output of df -h please
 
user136984
@ByteCommander: In a moment.
 
No, now!
We're impatient.
;-)
 
user136984
@MarkYisri: Yes, installed with UEFI mode.
 
@ByteCommander you and me both
 
user136984
8:30 PM
Filesystem                          Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev                                1.9G     0  1.9G   0% /dev
tmpfs                               381M   45M  336M  12% /run
/dev/mapper/ubuntu--gnome--vg-root  454G  112G  320G  26% /
tmpfs                               1.9G  1.7M  1.9G   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs                               5.0M  4.0K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
tmpfs                               1.9G     0  1.9G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/sda2                           237M  202M   23M  91% /boot
 
Paranoid, see this line
/dev/sda2 237M 202M 23M 91% /boot
 
user136984
Right, but what do I do about that?
 
Boot is on a seperate partition, as standard for EFI booting.
This is why it is out of disk space even though the main partition still has free space
 
342
Q: How do I free up more space in /boot?

user6722My /boot partition is nearly full and I get a warning every time I reboot my system. I already deleted old kernel packages (linux-headers...), actually I did that to install a newer kernel version that came with the automatic updates. After installing that new version, the partition is nearly ful...

 
I posted an answer on AskUbuntu. See also @ByteCommander post.
Free up space in /boot\
 
user136984
8:33 PM
How come they're getting us to do an upgrade which can't be done without a nightmare?
 
user136984
Isn't this what the testing phase is for?
 
user136984
They put these updates through so much testing, it's unbelievable that something like this gets through!
 
@ParanoidPanda It is YOUR fault that your disk is full, not the update's!
 
This is not Ubuntu's fault @ParanoidPanda, although it is strange that /boot filled up... any special kernel you installed?
 
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8:34 PM
@MarkYisri: Not to my knowledge.
 
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@ByteCommander: But there is nothing special about my /boot folder, I haven't got anything any different from anybody else installed in there.
 
My /boot is also 272MB big. That seems normal.
 
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Not that I know of anyway.
 
But I don't have it as separate partition.
 
If my answer solved your problem, could you please mark it as such?
 
8:35 PM
@ParanoidPanda No, the /boot content is normal. Your partition is just too small.
 
Yes, @ParanoidPanda, did you make a very small /boot partition during install?
 
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@ByteCommander: But the partition is the standard size as the installer set it.
 
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@MarkYisri: Clearly the installer did.
 
Why does @ByteCommander have it all together but you don't?
 
Then it's a stupid standard and a stupid installer. I always partition manually.
 
8:37 PM
@ByteCommander did you choose custom partition setup?
 
That explains the difference.
 
user136984
Anyway, how do I increase it? Do I just need to boot my machine with a LiveUSB and use GParted to increase the size?
 
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@cl-netbox: I could do with your help right now! ;D
 
I don't trust the installer when I have multiple OS on my disk.
@ParanoidPanda yes
 
8:38 PM
It's not that easy, because /dev/sda2 (/boot) might be followed by more partitions
 
user136984
Well, after I fix this, I'm going to file a report with the installer, because this really shouldn't happen with the default.
 
You can try though
 
Just give it 1-2 GB, you should have enough of them. Or merge it into /.
 
@ByteCommander how do you merge?
 
user136984
I don't like the sound of all this.
 
8:38 PM
1 GB is too much I think. Try 512 MB
 
user136984
Is there not another way?
 
user136984
Could I mess things up?
 
@MarkYisri There is never too much, only too few, as you can see.
 
Yes, delete the old kernels (BUT keep a working one just in case). Then you shouldn't mess up.
@ByteCommander when your hard disk is 10GB, a 1GB boot partition is silly.
In this case it's fine, cause @ParanoidPanda hard drive is 500GB.
 
user136984
@MarkYisri How can I check this and what do I do if this goes wrong? Because I don't have much experience with partitioning.
 
8:40 PM
Merging is booting into live OS, mounting /boot and / somewhere, moving all files from the /boot partition into a /boot directory on the / partition, then deleting the /boot partition, then assigning that free unallocated space to something useful, then reinstall GRUB.
 
@ParanoidPanda do you have another computer to chat from?
 
user136984
No
 
@MarkYisri Then you would better not make any separate /boot at all.
 
You can clean up old kernels in boot without an issue
 
Hmm... then we have no way of contact if something goes wrong. What about email??
 
8:41 PM
You don't need /boot to be separate, but /boot/efi does need to be on its own
Also yay 4GB efi partition! :D
 
@KazWolfe true.
Do you like saying "yay" ? @KazWolfe
 
It's usually sarcastic
 
user136984
It does not make me feel very reassured that everybody is telling me to do something different.
 
my /boot/efi is 96M...
I guess Windows had set it up that small...
 
@ParanoidPanda That happens because we all have different ways of solving the problem.
That's kind of how Stack Exchange works too.
Many answers, 1 question.
 
user136984
8:44 PM
Well, how do I know which answer to pick?
 
user136984
I don't want to kill my machine you know.
 
Try the least likely to damage your machine first (clean up old kernels).
 
user136984
How?
 
user136984
I've already run sudo apt-get autoremove and there aren't any to go. Unless you mean another method?
 
no, I mean manually remove the (rm /boot/vmlinuz-*). How do you do that formatting of the text?
 
user136984
8:46 PM
``
 
thanks
 
@MarkYisri No!
Use the package manager, please.
 
try this: rm vmlinuz-4.4.0-34-generic vmlinuz-4.4.0-34-generic.efi.signed initrd.img-4.4.0-34-generic initrd.img-4.4.0-34-generic.old-dkms. Then install your initrd again, then reboot.
 
One does not rm!
 
@ByteCommander package manager doesn't work with low disk space does it?
 
user136984
8:47 PM
@ByteCommander: So I should just tell it to remove all those packages?
 
user136984
Or purge?
 
user136984
Or is that not what you meant?
 
343
Q: How do I free up more space in /boot?

user6722My /boot partition is nearly full and I get a warning every time I reboot my system. I already deleted old kernel packages (linux-headers...), actually I did that to install a newer kernel version that came with the automatic updates. After installing that new version, the partition is nearly ful...

 
@MarkYisri it was the 4.7.3 I think, I needed a 30GB VM to get through all the compilation (Kernel + Modules), of course Ubuntu took a good amount of those 30GB for himself
guess most of the size was occupied by object files
 
user136984
Ah, right!
 
user136984
8:49 PM
@ByteCommander: Thanks! I will give that a go! :)
 
@IanC I'm surprised, my kernel builds are usually 1GB (that's only the kernel+modules). Are you compiling a rootfs too?
I've done 3.2
 
I don't know, I'm didn't the Ubuntu kernel configuration during compilation (tried to configure it through make menuconfig), maybe the configuration I used compiled tons of unnecessary stuff? @MarkYisri
 
Where did you get your kernel sources?
I got mine from kernel.org
 
same here
 
user136984
Despite all this trouble, I actually had a nice moment there, someone with only 1 rep gave a good answer to a question of mine so I gave them +25! :)
 
user136984
8:52 PM
That actually felt quite good.
 
Now listening to: Volbeat - For Evigt
 
@MarkYisri I'll need to recompile the whole thing though, I'm having some Kernel Panic because of unavailable memory, will start over to see if I can get it right
 
@ParanoidPanda where?
 
user136984
@MarkYisri: Oh, this was on the Information Security SE site.
 
user136984
Right, so I have removed some old kernels, what do I do now?
 
user136984
8:55 PM
How do I try that upgrade again?
 
Reboot your computer.
But first run your upgrade command again
I have to go now guys
You can reach me at yisrimark@gmail.com
 
user136984
It doesn't think that there is anything else to upgrade.
 
run sudo apt-get -f install
 
user136984
Nothing
 
user136984
8:57 PM
The issue is with the update-initramfs processing, do I just need to run that again?
 
do this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic linux-image
 
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@MarkYisri:
 
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Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package linux-image is a virtual package provided by:
  linux-image-4.4.0-38-lowlatency 4.4.0-38.57
  linux-image-4.4.0-38-generic 4.4.0-38.57
  linux-image-4.4.0-36-lowlatency 4.4.0-36.55
  linux-image-4.4.0-36-generic 4.4.0-36.55
  linux-image-4.4.0-34-lowlatency 4.4.0-34.53
  linux-image-4.4.0-34-generic 4.4.0-34.53
  linux-image-4.4.0-31-lowlatency 4.4.0-31.50
  linux-image-4.4.0-31-generic 4.4.0-31.50
  linux-image-4.4.0-28-lowlatency 4.4.0-28.47
 
okay, thought that might happen
I know how to solve it
sudo apt-get install linux-image-4.4.0-38-generic
 
user136984
The version number as a separate package?
 
8:59 PM
that was a mistake, edited
 
So Twitter doesn't count links and media towards the 140 character limit now.
 
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Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
linux-image-4.4.0-38-generic is already the newest version (4.4.0-38.57).
linux-image-4.4.0-38-generic set to manually installed.
0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
 
user136984
@MarkYisri: ^^
 
user136984
Don't you mean --reinstall?
 
yep, you're right about reinstall
 
9:00 PM
Reinstall never hurts...
 
@ByteCommander so... A polar bear?
 
Gotta go, you can find my email above.
see ya
 
user136984
Do I need to do this for all the other kernel things it said it failed on in the error in my question or will this do it?
 
user136984
@MarkYisri: Wait, how come you're able to chat with only 1 rep?
 
9:03 PM
Network rep
20 or more network wide
 
Someone give me an HTML color code for a nice dark color to be used as the "your message" color
 
$ dpkg -l linux* | grep ^ii
ii  linux-base                          4.0ubuntu1           all          Linux image base package
ii  linux-firmware                      1.157.3              all          Firmware for Linux kernel drivers
ii  linux-generic                       4.4.0.38.40          amd64        Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers
ii  linux-headers-4.4.0-36              4.4.0-36.55          all          Header files related to Linux kernel version 4.4.0
ii  linux-headers-4.4.0-36-generic      4.4.0-36.55          amd64        Linux kernel headers for version 4.4.0 on 64 bi
@ParanoidPanda Compare ^ with yours.
 
user136984
@ByteCommander: Ok, I'm just reinstalling everything that upgrade said it installed and upgraded. Then I will compare.
 
user136984
@MarkYisri: Right, I see you've got more than 20 network rep elsewhere. :)
 
@ByteCommander you want me to write it as a separate answer?
 
user136984
9:08 PM
@ByteCommander: Here is my output:
 
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ii  linux-base                          4.0ubuntu1           all          Linux image base package
ii  linux-firmware                      1.157.3              all          Firmware for Linux kernel drivers
ii  linux-generic                       4.4.0.38.40          amd64        Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers
ii  linux-headers-4.4.0-36              4.4.0-36.55          all          Header files related to Linux kernel version 4.4.0
ii  linux-headers-4.4.0-36-generic      4.4.0-36.55          amd64        Linux kernel headers for version 4.4.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
 
user136984
@ByteCommander: Does that look fine? It's hard to compare them on my screen.
 
@kush yes
@ParanoidPanda I wonder why you have no linux-tools-... packages, but the rest looks fine.
 
user136984
@ByteCommander: Strange, is that meant to be installed?
 
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Q: Avoid ssh authenticity test for local addresses

BowParkWhen in the same LAN several ssh servers use DHCP, their IP address may change. Every time they have a new address (that is: an address they never had before in that LAN), the following message appears: The authenticity of host '192.168.1.x (192.168.1.x)' can't be established. ECDSA key fingerpr...

 
9:21 PM
@ParanoidPanda Ah, no. It got installed as recommended package by "tlp".
 
user136984
@ByteCommander: And now I need to go an fix a radiator which I just broke! Will it ever end...? :D
 
o.O
Stop. Breaking. Things.
Interesting song: Volbeat - Lonesome rider
 
user136984
What would be the fun in that? :P
 
OK, I think SE chat is done
 
Can a moderator turn these comments into a chat? askubuntu.com/questions/826574/how-can-i-update-my-repository/…
 
9:27 PM
Oh noes... Our "and it might work fine this way." guy Michael is back!
Ah, no. Just an old answer that entered the LQ queue. VTDed.
 
@ByteCommander lol who?
 
A user who always posted some commands more or less related to the question and then wrote "and it might work fine this way" below.
 
heh link please
i am curious
@Zacharee1 you got thanked askubuntu.com/questions/827112/…
 
yeah
 
9:41 PM
@L.D.James done
 
GAH I get so mad when forum users when answering questions of a user asking how to do something that the person doesn't recommend goes and recommends him not to do it instead do something else. JUST ANSWER THEIR QUESTION!!! Forums come up on google SEO and I end up there trying to answer a question and I get that bullshit. Common!
 
@Seth Thanks!
 
@edwinksl :)
 
user136984
@JamesTobin: That wolf looks so cute! :D
 
user136984
Or is it a husky?
 
9:54 PM
it is a husky :D
 
user136984
Still cute! :D
 
user136984
Those ears!
 
user136984
I want to touch those ears! :D
 
user136984
Anyway, goodnight! :)
 
@edwinksl huzzah :p
 
user136984
9:59 PM
And thanks to everyone who helped me with my /boot trouble tonight! :)
 

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