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3:02 PM
if it stays at 10 candidates, i'll nominate myself one minute before election should start. probably adding a "YOU MAD?" troll face. :P
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jrg
Do it.
 
Its not showing my upvotes
 
What up votes?
 
My upvotes - my 12
hat I just made
I'm goin for the civic duty badge
 
3:10 PM
Maybe it takes some time.
 
everything is heavily cached on AU
give it like 10 minutes
 
Probably.
Like my new avatar?
Kitty will come when you least expect him.
 
@OctavianDamiean you use your whispering skills to lure unsuspecting Unicorns into dark alleyways .. then ... well, we all know the rest.
 
jrg
@William DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVEL-what happened to ballmer?!
 
@jrg - how do I place a picture in here?
 
3:12 PM
@rlemon JUDAS!
 
He has been arrested.
 
@dunderhead Just post the link to the picture in here.
 
jrg
@dunderhead there is a "upload" button, click that and then it will put it in for you.
or just paste the link
 
Damn notifications! :P
 
All the developers organized a riot
 
3:12 PM
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jrg
@WilliamHilsum sorry.
 
They exposed him for the Windows tax.
 
I don't see an upload button
 
lol! not your fault! (well, technically was.. but... oh well!)
 
@WilliamHilsum Damn notifications!
Damn developers!
 
3:13 PM
@dunderhead If the picture is already online you don't need to upload it manually.
 
Windows Tax? You Linux guys aren't Microsoft bashing without anyone here to defend MS are you? ... maybe I should stick around :P
 
Just post the image link in here.
 
jrg
 
It's not online...
 
@OctavianDamiean I need a fancy sign that says vote william
 
jrg
3:14 PM
The upload button to the right of the chat textbox.
 
Ah! I don't have that. Clearly I'm not trusted. (And with good reason!)
 
jrg
@WilliamHilsum Oh, if you try that, we will hunt you down. :P
Wait...
actually i think there is a limit on photos as well
 
@WilliamHilsum Don't underestimate the penguin. It just looks harmless but it isn't!
In fact they are predators.
Trained to waylay their prey through their windows and wait until the gates open.
 
@jrg I'm not that good with Photoshop either, but I do have a pic of Octavian lurking in the bushes blowing a poison dart at a unicorn...
 
3:19 PM
@GeorgeEdison I recall you had a library somewhere that let people run the community ads on their blog, etc.
 
@jrg :P
@OctavianDamiean lol
@OctavianDamiean nah... penguins just steal stuff... I saw that documentary...
 
hah, documentaries. You should not trust everything in the television.
 
darth tuxidious
now i got it right xD
no, it has a link to this
that's usually how i start wasting one hour by watching cute animal clips on youtube :D
 
@JorgeCastro The 2buntu people have it implemented (@jrg)
 
jrg
@MarcoCeppi @JorgeCastro Yes we did
or rather, George did, so you still need to go to him for it.
 
3:29 PM
I want to write a blog post including it, how can I do that?
 
jrg
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Q: StackAd - An Easy Way to Display Open-Source Ads on Your Site/Blog

George Edison Note: This page is due for an update but until then you can add StackAd to your site by adding: <script type='text/javascript' src='http://files.quickmediasolutions.com/stackad/stackad.min.js'> </script> to the <head> section of your page and sticking the...

 
haahaha :D
That is quite amazing actually.
 
aah now I'll always think of that when I look at your avatar
fantastic @dunderhead :D
 
jrg
snicker
 
3:35 PM
I need a new avatar.
 
thanks!
 
I have a great idea for a new avatar. :P
 
<evil grin> would you like me to make you one Octavian?
 
jrg
I'm considering changing to my lovely Star Trek counterpart
 
make the shaking-hands-with-yourself gesture, that always gets people elected ;)
 
3:37 PM
hehe
If I don't get elected I know who's fault that is! :D
 
Foxit Reader is windows only, right?
 
Alright time to go lure some ... err ... to uni. Time to go to uni.
 
unfortunately, yeah.
@OctavianDamiean good luck! :)
 
Thanks, I'll need it. Damn subjunctives.
 
Who are you calling subjunctives? I thought we were a friendly lot in here... Oh. Wait.
@Octavian good luck
 
3:46 PM
damn, that's the second time a whole folder disappeared from my chromium bookmarks >:(
 
3:56 PM
@rlemon there's a Sandbox if you feel like messing about with the chat
 
@JorgeCastro bugs that are present on a version higher package than the ones present in the repos should be reported to the application's site and not launchpad correct?
 
ubuntu-bug is for ubuntu packages
 
ok, thx
 
they should just not use ubuntu bug and report it wherever the project has a bug tracker
there's a bug report somewhere to make ubuntu bug do what that guy wants
not sure where it is, you should find it though, I'm sure it will have a bunch of discussion
 
@jrg Here you go boss, a new bookmarklet just for you!
I would make it a userscript.... but bookmarklet just seems fun
 
4:02 PM
@JorgeCastro would you add anything to this? askubuntu.com/questions/100813/…
 
I am sure if you find the bug report it will have more info
 
@StefanoPalazzo sorry.. i was hoping to be able to post a bookmarklet link directly in the chat.. rlemon.github.com/justforfun/vote_jrg_bookmarklet.html
BTW guys, if you like any of the Campaign stuff i've done (or think its funny.. or just wanna know how i did it) you can fork my github.
brb reboot
 
Hello all
@rlemon I want to reuse that..
Oh cmon; make one for me ;)
 
'lo everyone, just curious is this chat more popular then any particular irc channel ?
 
4
A: Is there an equivalent to Adobe Creative Suite for Ubuntu?

mrpotatoAs far as I know, there isn't such thing as a "Creative Suite". What you have instead are several alternatives to the different programs in Adobe's suite: Gimp vs Photoshop Inkscape vs Illustrator Tons of editors and IDE's (such as Netbeans, Eclipse or Bluefish) instead of DreamWeaver etc Tho...

@bodhizazen Yep :P
 
4:16 PM
@AmithKK lol ok ok
 
4:30 PM
 
@rlemon Yay! Thanks Alot!
 
np
 
Anybody with Windows 7 here?
 
not on my w7 box... but i do have one.
 
I need something tested... fast
 
4:33 PM
can't help ya then
 
@rlemon Does .mpg's work on Windows?
 
jrg
@rlemon You are really trying to suck up to all the moderator candidates who have a decent shot of winning. :P
lol
 
@AmithKK should
@jrg no, i'm just bored and would not qualify for a moderator (nor would I want to run) - so this is how I contribute.
 
jrg
heh.
 
same with all of the ubuntu ads... and SE scripts... just my way of giving back to a free service / community.
 
4:41 PM
0
A: mencoder: Encode a movie that is playable in a minimal Windows installation

Amith KKThis can be done using an app called Arista Transcoder: Firstly install sudo apt-get install arista Then launch it using Dash > Arista You will see this window: Click create conversion and select DVD Player- PAL DVD Select the source and output Click Create and use the file on Windows 7

BBT
Good Night
 
5:11 PM
0
Q: Are bugs necessarily off-topic?

Scott SeveranceJorge Castro recently commented on one of my questions that it should be filed as a bug instead. And I've seen here that the general view is that questions about bugs should be considered off-topic here and handled on Launchpad instead. My question is whether that stance should be modified somew...

 
5:23 PM
Yes!
questions on how to identify an issue, or questions asking specifically for a workaround are not.. but straight bug reporting on AU is off-topic.
IMO
 
Workarounds, I believe, belong in bug reports
 
but isn't a workaround just another way of doing XYZ?
 
I think a workaround is like any other answer
 
If it's a work around to a bug, it's still a bug. Bugs, workarounds, and patches - IMO - should be on Launchpad
 
link to the bug report, summarize the content
 
5:30 PM
so wouldn't (theoretically) someone asking how to remove unity for another DE be a "workaround"
 
no
Would someone asking for a patch be considered an on-topic question?
 
someone asking how to find and download a patch if one exists would be on-topic IMO
 
If I ask "I have this problem, I would like a patch" - that's a valid question?
 
it's a matter of semantics..
 
5:31 PM
No how to apply a patch, asking for a patch
 
Someone asking for a patch is off-topic, having a patch as the only solution is ok. Depends on where the patch comes in to it.
 
Workarounds are patches to a bug. So they belong on Launchpad
 
but if they are answered should we close them?
 
no but if i ask " I have this problem, [does a patch exists (i cannot find one). || how do I install X patch I found to this bug]" is that off-topic?
 
yes, should be reported as bug for the package in lp
 
5:34 PM
The first one is, imo the best place to find and get patches is on Launchpad. If you have a bug that needs to be patched it need to be on LP. The second one is on-topic
 
how is that off topic.. I have a patch, I don't know how to install it. (assuming there is no guide from where I got the patch)
 
You asked two questions.
I have this problem, [does a patch exists (i cannot find one). - Offtopic
how do I install X patch I found to this bug - Ontopic
 
okkk i misread.
 
"The second one is on-topic" i read "The second one is off-topic"
 
5:35 PM
ah, yeah - the second one is a great question
 
but what if the user legitimately does not know about LP, does a bad search of the site and comes up with no answers.. I don't think asking where to find the patch if one exists should be off topic (albeit likely a dupe)
 
@rlemon Just because a user doesn't know, doesn't give them a free pass to do something wrong. Post should be closed with a comment about LaunchPad.
We really need to fix up our pro-forma comments to add more details for users
 
As someone new to all this I find bug reporting a bit, for want of a better word, scary!
 
so the question "Where do I go to find patches for Ubuntu" is off-topic.
 
@rlemon No, that's on-topic
 
5:39 PM
I assume that as I don't know the facts I'm going to just annoy the poor developers if I file a bad bug report
 
Off-topic is defined on our faq
 
but that is essentially what i am saying..
 
@dunderhead it's ok the system weeds you out if it's worthless
we don't let users report bug reports in the launchpad UI
you need to submit with the tool
 
@MarcoCeppi I only am pushing this because I cannot find "Where do I go to find patches for Ubuntu" type question in the pool. :P so i can understand how a new ubuntu user will be confused by this.
 
either way, I don't think it's a bad thing to let people not report bad bugs.
 
5:41 PM
64
Q: How do I report a bug?

andrewsomethingI found a problem with a application on Ubuntu. How do I best report the issue? What sort of information should I provide?

 
I think I'm beginning to understand:-)
 
@MarcoCeppi that encompasses so much, doing a site search for "Where do I go to find patches for Ubuntu" and that doesn't even appear.
 
@rlemon A canonical question like that is fine. It's informative - it's also on-topic per the FAQ
 
Bounty offered: Dell inspiron 1545 wired and wireless do not work http://askubuntu.com/questions/99775/dell-inspiron-1545-wired-and-wireless-do-not-work #wireless
 
@MarcoCeppi so to sum up basically I should create a "Where do I go to find patches for Ubuntu" question and this will not be an issue anymore (hopefully?)
 
5:43 PM
Thanks for the link - but almost the first thing I see there is you need to press Alt-F2. erm, what if you've configured that shortcut as the run command...
 
that's what you type in the run command
 
that is what it should be.
 
I don't think it was on my 11.10 install - I recall having to enable the ALtF2 shortcut.
 
It's on my fresh install
 
I know I'm a tad dense, but the Ubuntu Wiki states "You should not file a bug if you are: Requesting support..."
I thought I was doing the right thing in a question I asked recently but people pointed out that this should be a bug report. Sorry but for me it's a bit confusing to see where the fine line is
 
5:49 PM
must... handle... flags...
 
There's only 23, not bad for mid-day
 
weird, I can't see any next to the review link :S
 
You can't see every flag, only a handful
 
oh
I guess I was being led on by the fact that there usually like 19 or so every day lol
 
@dunderhead so it's like this
we're good at "How" questions here
"How do I use this to do that?"
what we can't handle are "This crashes, now what?"
 
5:53 PM
@Jorge ahh, that's helpful
 
You get a lot of these on SO -> and
 
@RolandTaylor do you have flags?
not votes, flags.
 
Do you have the prefilled out comments?
We need to flag these so they can be closed: askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/…
but then need a flag AND this comment "This question should instead be filed as a bug report, and as such is off-topic, thanks! Instructions here."
 
brb
sorry about the sudden "brb" had to go afk
I'll handle em :)
 
6:10 PM
@RolandTaylor we're rocking those right now
we need everyone to max out their flags like every day for a week
and we'll be money
 
awesome :D!
switching to firefox to burn through questions
 
if they're obvious "this crashes" style ones then flag em
 
hi all
i want to ask a ?
 
@JorgeCastro How should I flag em (as other?)
 
6:17 PM
what i flag mistakenly or i have flag wrongly
 
@RolandTaylor offtopic
 
okie
So, hold a sec lol, wouldn't that be using my close votes?
(I mean, if I click "Doesn't belong here" it opens the close vote dialogue :P)
oh nvm, I read through the second answer on the meta thread
 
JS junkies... can we please get some feedback on paste.ubuntu.com/826710
 
@JorgeCastro worked fine few days ago. ;-)
 
@JorgeCastro I'm really glad about the masses of "this is a bug" flags that have been coming in lately - it seems like we're really cleaning up now
I say "coming in lately", 90% of them are from two users
who are awesome (:
 
6:28 PM
if every thing is not working fine or slow YYY its always a bug
now i can say that its a " bug " as no one replyed
 
@OneZero not quite :)
 
just jokin
 
@OneZero that belongs on:
 
I was about to say :)
@OneZero I'll move this over for you
you also ask two questions in one
 
already commented on that :P
 
6:34 PM
ask ubuntu meta ? new stack ?
 
@OneZero every SE site has a Meta for questions about the site itself
 
@StefanoPalazzo if we can get 5 or so people doing it every day for a week we should be good.
 
hmm ok ty
 
with six moderators soon, handling the amount of flags will not be a problem either
 
icantwaitforelectionstobeover
 
6:36 PM
@JorgeCastro if we do cleanup sprints, we could think about a site-banner to announce them as well
 
I am not convinced clean up days, sprints, or weeks are effective
it's always the same people
and we do it every day
so every day is basically a clean up day
2
 
@MarcoCeppi you hurt my soul whenyoudothis.
 
right, that's why I was thinking of a banner
 
@rlemon imsosorry<3
 
@StefanoPalazzo like this one
 
6:38 PM
if it would say "See a questions that is actually a bug report? Flag it for moderator attention" (link to this weeks meta post)
 
iloveitwhenpeopledothathonestly
 
@MarcoCeppi it'sokmarcoi'llforgiveyou
 
whatsthisidonteven?
 
editwarsarenomore,butspacesarenolongerallowed.thankgodforpunctuation.
@MarcoCeppi I can't wait to see the question "myspacebuttonnolongerworks!helpplease"
 
6:40 PM
@rlemon closed as Off Topic - please file a bug instead!
 
@StefanoPalazzo you people will be "file as a bug" happy. I know it! What if that is not a bug but a configuration error! huh?! what then smarty pants!
 
@rlemon reopen it?
 
@OneZero I answered you
 
@JorgeCastro finally,somejustice.
 
jrg
6:42 PM
Dang, AU chat on a 40 inch TV looks slick.
@rlemon reopen it.
thats always been my policy.
 
jrg
@RolandTaylor U mad bro?
 
@jrg... wanna give away that tv?
 
let me check it
 
jrg
@RolandTaylor Not mine.
using the offices TV. :P
 
6:43 PM
haha you recognized the troll face :D
That was our battleswarm /sni emoticon :D
We loved him so dearly :D!
"A face you can trust"
 
jrg
I'm a friendly facist. I'm a tyrant you should trust. ;D
 
oh I forgot to bring this up
 
jrg
Oh?
 
@jrg are you sure "fascist" is one of the first words you want on your nomination?
 
O.o...
 
jrg
6:45 PM
@StefanoPalazzo oh, yeah.
i'm removing that since the joke isn't funny anymore. :P
 
I'd remove that bit and link to youtube 2 seconds further into the video
 
jrg
eh.. kill the whole thing.
one person got the joke - therefore proving to me that its not funny to other people. :P
 
@Roland Taylor thanks alot
 
@OneZero any time (so long as I'm alive, and such)
 
6:48 PM
@jrg I got it!
 
jrg
@rlemon thats two.
 
I was going to try and photoshop a boot on your head but ran out of time.
4
 
jrg
out of 2K+ users able to vote.
 
o/
is back
 
6:54 PM
\0/ <- i got a big head....
 
XD
rofl
\♥/
 
\O Bigger than mine?
 
screw it.
 
Your head is open on both sides though!
hehe
:D
Awesome.
 

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