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4:41 AM
seems to be a day of rest here
 
4:59 AM
oops
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Q: Is the location of the bus station really spam/promotional content?

Jonathan AllardIn the following question and answer, I've explained how one could go to a certain bus station in Tbilisi to catch a minibus to Yerevan. I added two things, the address of the station along with the geocoordinates, as "X bus station" can sometimes be hard to find in developing countries like Geor...

 
5:40 AM
@ZachLipton: No and the misundesrtanding is all fixed now. i flagged all the comments as obsolete now that it's all resolved.
 
sounds good, mistakes happen
 
yes indeedy. but enough being nice. next time we should cut off the typing hand of the offender.
 
I'd mention the sort of countries where that idea would go over well, but then we'd have to have another meta about insulting nations...
 
 
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11:10 AM
@mts Yes :)
 
11:24 AM
@Willeke per yesterday, read this one.........
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Q: Are UK and Schengen visitor visas interchangeable?

DHJI'm a UK passport holder, my wife isn't we don't live in UK, if she gets a UK visit visa, does this entitle her to travel to the Schengen area or do i need to get her a separate schengen visa ?

he's found a pattern for rep, you should be doing this also!
Just take the existing answer and paraphrase it. It works! This can help you reach the 'trusted user' milestone.
 
@ZachLipton we could enact a rule about insulting TSE
 
Ah yes, Lèse-majesté solves everything
 
let them eat cake
 
11:42 AM
@Gayot I think somewhere Joel or Jeff recommend downvoting answers that are just repetition of another on the same post, provided there is a time gap (I seem to recall 30m?) IMO the time gap is irrelevant (the second answer, if of equivalent quality is 'not useful' even if posted a second later). However there is a small (I suspect minority) school of thought that has 'duplicates' useful as confirmation of the quality of one another. I am not of that school.
 
@pnuts Right, but it kind of sucks for the second guy if he's just two minutes after. Presumably both users were typing their answers simultaneously
 
@pnuts If both users published within moments of each other, that's a wonderful happen-so, it means the answers are easy to find. When the separation is more than an hour or so, then it's a different thing.
 
sometimes the later answer is a more readable rewording of the previous answer
 
I have been encouraging my TSE ally @Willeke to do it
 
but in that case i prefer editing the original answer as long as you only clarify and update but don't change facts
yeah more text means more googleable which is always a win
 
11:46 AM
@hippietrail your approach is TSE friendly, people like that kind of thing where someone improves an answer just out of community spirit
 
From a rep point of view, indeed may seem harsh (I guess that's why the ~30m or whatever) but from the point of view of operation of the site for the benefit of others, the first 'copy' is enough. I have deleted answers of mine timed microseconds later. Note that "more readable wording" counts as a different answer here (in my book).
 
Google has stockpiled some staggering high links for this site
 
thanks. when the answer's owner gets snarky about helpful community improvements then there can be no harm in submitting a clearer wording as a new answer I suppose
 
@pnuts please do not delete when the situation is parallel composition! It takes me longer because I have to get the links. Do not delete until I have a chance to up vote
 
my favourite rewording answers are ones that summarize the disparate facts from multiple other answers especially hard to read multiple answers that have useful facts that are hard to sift out
 
11:48 AM
and then you can delete :)
@hippietrail next time you do that, ping me so I can check it out
 
@hippietrail If one is better than the other then they are not duplicates. On SO though it can often happen that both answers show the same code - and very little else!
 
when somebody is doing it over and over again to game the system hopefully we'd stop that and be harsher on this point with them
 
@hippietrail Do you think it is an unacceptable pattern? I have been encouraging my TSE allies to do it all the time :( It's free rep
 
if the only benefit is to the re-writer it doesn't seem to be a good thing
it has to also benefit the site/its users somehow
 
@GayotFow Not sure what you are asking me to do, but may be worth bearing in mind I rarely answer on this site so would guess I have deleted my own (earlier) answer only two or three times here.
@hippietrail Agree.
 
11:54 AM
i haven't noticed it going on here not that notice everything
has anyone tried using airbnb in rural areas of developing countries?
i've never used it at all but since i found free wi-fi in this little township i was just looking to see what the cheapest level of accommodation was. and some things on airbnb are cheaper than the cheapest hostels i've stayed in so far
bah it shows results that are actually pretty far away
 
@pnuts don't deleted it, I cannot vote when the person deletes their stuff
@hippietrail If we play it strictly by the book, it needs to be surfaced in META.
and that invites the risk of the community deeming it a bad practice
 
the risks of transparency (-:
hmm to stay in 711 with wifi and aircon or saunter down the road for local din dins ... ?
 
@hippietrail where are you dude???
I used to work at Columbia Pictures and we always referred to it as 711
 
@GayotFow: Mailiao, Yulin, Taiwan
 
@Gayot The context is answers that are the same - so there is still one version for your vote! If you are trying to use all your allowance, may I suggest more -1s? Almost every Q gets at least one +1 and about a third of them are duplicates or off topic. I would appreciate -1s on those.
 
12:05 PM
my plan was to stick as close to the cost so i could find a spot for the tent with a sea breeze. but because there's lots of rivery bits the smaller roads don't have bridges over, i'm a mile or two inland. and i'm on the flat west coast.
 
@pnuts My understanding is that we are not meant to downvote off topic or duplicates
 
@pnuts Noted good squire. Under advisement
 
merely flag them appropriatley
 
Duplicates help the search engine ranking and the FAQ stats
@hippietrail do you take pictures and what-not?
 
my understanding was we downvote if we have some vague ill defined negative reaction - but i've never been positive
 
12:09 PM
@CMaster I think not supposed to +1 them! Anyway, vote how you like, I consider them not useful. SEO and FAQ should, in my opinion, be balanced against the sort of mess SO has got itself into - as TSE is heading for once volumes increase.
 
i do take pictures. don't know if i got any good ones in the last couple of days
I use FB for that stuff but this time I've been uploading a smaller percentage of my photos that on previous trips.
 
Downvote tooltip on questions says "This question does not show any research effort; it is unclear or not useful"
help centre says "When should I vote down?

Use your downvotes whenever you encounter an egregiously sloppy, no-effort-expended post, or an answer that is clearly and perhaps dangerously incorrect.

You have a limited number of votes per day, and answer down-votes cost you a tiny bit of reputation on top of that; use them wisely."
 
i don't trust any of the wording after establishing "off topic" is not related to "topic"
 
@CMaster I am well aware of that, as I said I find duplicates "not useful" (and obviously, with the same Q already on TSE, makes "research effort" distinctly dubious).
 
@CMaster Those rules were made for questions about c# and java; are they meaningful for us?
 
12:19 PM
@GayotFow Good question
 
@hippietrail As PolyGeo said "the genie is out of the bottle".
@GayotFow I think Yes - that page is SE mandated.
 
so I get three wishes?
 
No sorry, I've had them.
 
not rubbing that lamp again
 
:)
 
12:31 PM
Which, by the way, I need my allies to upvote my question on the main site. It is a full, SERIOUSLY important question and is getting SFA attention from the self-absorbed geeks over there
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Q: Using SharpCompress to identify the volumes associated with a given RAR archive

Gayot FowI have a Windows 10 folder with lots of multi-part RAR files. The 'root' rar and its parts need to be segregated and then moved into their own folders. I can do this manually by creating a folder and inspecting the file names such that the root rar and then 'part01.rar', 'part02.rar', etc. are a...

6 views and SFA answers :(
If I miss delivery on this, it will be a shame
 
is there a reason you are using variants for everything?
oh ok, not quite a variant
implied typing
still, have you tried properly defining the type in your example?
 
I was one of the 6 but, sorry, not my bag.
 
@CMaster how? what's the typing? and how do you know this???
 
I'd have imagined that intellisense would give you some info on what type Entries is
although it has to be said, the documentation for SharpCompress is kinda lacking
 
@CMaster It's horrible!
 
12:43 PM
I mean yeah, you're following the example
so the example is obviously wrong
but its hard to tell if its in trival or important ways
 
You take the sample on the site page and the puppy does not even compile!
 
try changing the wording
shorter punchier
 
hmmm
you are using an out of date version of both the library and the documenation
 
@hippietrail you mean my question is too wordy?
 
12:47 PM
i know that's a problem with some of my ignored SO questions
sometimes dumbing them down works
sometimes i just give up because i always hit problems nobody else ever does
man these singular tags still coming out of the woodwork
 
@hippietrail that's a silly tag :(
 
@hippietrail hey, you spent a lot of time in Georgia right ?
caravanistan says you don't need a letter of invitation for a regular tourist visa, but the georgiaconsul website doesn't specify, it doesn't even say it's mandatory
 
@CMaster I will try that, ta
 
@GayotFow Note that you may have to be using the latest version for that example to work
 
@blackbird: 7 months or so. never met anyone that needed an LOI though
 
12:54 PM
@CMaster Theoretically I have it --- I used nuget
@hippietrail It's a silly myth
 
i knew americans europeans east and southeast asians russians azeris persians syrians there
 
yeah, first time I hear of that too
 
but pakistan could be in another category
 
yeah they seem to be a difficult passport to get visas for
any idea if hotels can deliver such a letter like I told the OP ? or am I completely off on that one ?
 
12:56 PM
People put their question here and there simultaneously
 
@GayotFow Looks like its a versioning issue then
 
no idea because it never came up with anyone i knew there from anywhere. this is the first i'm hearing of georgian LOIs. but then again it doesn't feel impossible to me that citizens of some country might need it for some kind of visa
i'm gonna log out and get food. dunno when food places close here.
 
if I download the version on codeplex
 
@CMaster i will give it a lash
 
my VS likes the example just fine
 
12:59 PM
did you get from nuget?
 
no, as said, if I get the version on codeplex
 
or from git?
 
it works with the example on codeplex
which suggests that the API has changed more recently
hence the different example on GitHub
 
@hippietrail k thanks
 
for the record, the types appear to be IArchiveFactory and IArchive
 
1:03 PM
It means nuget is wrong and github is right? which one did you use?
 
I used neither NuGet nor GitHub
you linked to Codeplex, I downloaded (via http/ftp) the version from the big download link there
The version there is 10.3
 
The version on NuGet is apparently 0.12.4
which is the same as Git
tl;dr the documentation on codeplex is right for the version provided tehre
but you aren't using that version
 
@blackbird I think it it NOT on topic!
 
Want me to put that as an answer on SO?
 
1:06 PM
@CMaster so I need version 10.3 from codeplex, right?
 
orrrr to use the Example on the Github wiki
 
@CMaster of course!
 
yeah I was confused, I close voted but then I saw your answer
 
I'd do the latter (use the latest example and latest version) myself
 
@blackbird i answered because the other guy answered with a totally wrong answer :( That's bad for our site
look at the deleted answer
 
1:10 PM
@GayotFow ah ok, I see
 
@blackbird help me understand: what in heaven's name was that fellow thinking?
People cannot bring their wives home???
@CMaster I will get the github and compile it rather than use nuget, right???
 
1:28 PM
@GayotFow idk, probably misunderstood visa conditions or visa type
 
1:41 PM
@blackbird in the old days you could go off and get married and bring your spouse back straight away, but they stopped all that when Blair got in
 
1:56 PM
@GayotFow I don't think there is any point in that
the GitHub and NuGet version numbers are the same
I think I see your problem though - you want to get at the archives's name, but that is no longer easily accessed from SharpCompress
I'm not sure that you need SharpCompress for that though
wouldn't standard C# file objects be fine?
ah no, because you need to know which are parts of the same archive
hmmm
if you want the old version for whatever reason
you can get it from here: sharpcompress.codeplex.com
(press the big purple download button)
 
@CMaster now you've got your head around it! :)
 
That said
I don't think the code sample you have there really helps you get it
 
There's GBP 10k if I can deliver this puppy
@CMaster I agree
but honestly it should be possible
 
What you're getting is the path of the files in the archive
I guess you could do a compare to figure out which ones link together
 
@CMaster yeah, that's messy and uncool if there's a precise way to do it
 
2:29 PM
@Relaxed I'm still trying to find a reference to EU law about that customs rule
I'm sure you're right but I'm a bit ocd and would rather have a link :p
 
@GayotFow I think I see what you'll need to use
the RarArchive class appears to have a member Volumes
which looks like exactly what you need
 
@blackbird Yeah, I can be like that too. But I don't have any to offer right now. I remember reading something to that effect in an official document (maybe the regulation defining the customs allowances?) but there is such a maze of rules and documentation...
 
2:57 PM
I think I found one that's legit (it's in the A), customs text is so confusing even when I think I have the right one I can still be wrong
 
3:10 PM
@GayotFow I've done your work for you
want it?
 
@CMaster I am checking this out as we speak!
 
@GayotFow edited my answer, should show you want you actually want
your Q was a bit of an X-Y problem actually
 
@CMaster I need to get the old version? v 10.3?
 
no
the version confusion was something of a red herring
it was why your sample code wasn't working
but I don't think its at all releveant to the problem you are trying to solve
 
Error 1 'SharpCompress.Common.Rar.RarVolume' does not contain a definition for 'VolumeFile' and no extension method 'VolumeFile' accepting a first argument of type 'SharpCompress.Common.Rar.RarVolume' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)
no joy with the nuget version
@CMaster That author needs a serious check-up from the neck-up. His versioning is a nightmare
 
3:24 PM
sadly, Buget just does what it always does for me
*nuget
and errors out whenever I try to install any package
(not quite any, but any that I actually want)
if you just tell it vol. what options does it give you?
are any of them of the type FileInfo?
 
@CMaster the FileInfo class is there, but it's private. I will have to use string parsing on the names :( Uncool. If nobody answers my question I'll accept yours; I already gave it +1 :)
 
chx
I think I know where CMaster got this nick ;)
 
Arg, seriously, why do people like Nuget?
ahh ok
apparently its because the university only does VS2012
and NuGet isnt updated for it
sigh
and I can't even build my own version, because xproj
eh, never mind
you can figure it out for yourself
I'm sure you can get the fileinfo out however
 
4:05 PM
@CMaster short fuse on this one, I'll use string manipulation
 
 
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5:13 PM
Any more of my allies please shout
 
I'd do it in a shell script...
 
chx
let's have a language flamewar!
 
failing a trivial shell script, I'd correct the spelling of PrintVoulmes
 
5:30 PM
I'd get a time machine, go back a while, stop .NET from happening, return to the present and try again ;)
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I just ignore that stuff, apart from the odd occasion when I have to code review it
 
It's 10k in the mix if I can deliver it by Thursday, + another 15k if I can actually unzip them by the following Thursday, so.................
 
@GayotFow, I rather stay low(ish) rep for a while longer and write my own answers than copy (with a little bit of re-writing) other peoples answers.
I am always tempted to flag those copy and re-write answers, as plagiarism.
I do not do as it is often not clear to proof.
 
6:01 PM
Well that fellow found the formula for automatic rep. I don't know why more people are not doing it
 
10k to unpack some RARs???
it sounds like a 10 line script
 
Because it is not good for the site, it is usually frowned upon and most people are plain to proud to do it.
 
@Berwyn It's the business I'm in. But it needs to be an application on the guy's desktop
 
chx
never ever assume some trivial sounding thing is indeed trivial
it's probably not 10k to unpack some RARs but 10k to communicate with the client, understand their needs, iterate their needs over the timeframe of the project, deliver on time something working which is effin rare in the sw industry
i know all this
i have been making a living out of this for quite a few years
 
@chx plus the guy's ego :)
 
chx
6:16 PM
someone handed me a 50k row XLS sheet written in Farsi and asked for some data extraction thinking I will do machine learning and stuff. Hell no. I extracted a few strings by hand, ran a string search, extracted a few more and so forth at the end (as expected by the way) there were about 75 strings extracted in less than an hour. Machine learning, blargh.
Never underestimate the "big data" capabilities of awk :P
 
@GayotFow, I am trying to write an answer out of that comment on the Irish visa for parent but not for child. I wonder if I have to dive into the regulations or whether it is an easy one.
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Q: Transiting with a minor under the transit without visa (TWOV) scheme

ObyI am travelling from Lagos to Dublin via Edinburgh and I have an Irish biometric visa marked "BC", this qualifies me to transit without a visa, however my son who is a minor, 5 yrs old was exempted from biometrics so his visa has "no BC" but clearly marked that he is accompanied by me. Can he t...

Not to make easy rep, I do not find this easy at all, but to help OP and others with the same problems. An answer is easier to find that some hidden comment.
 
Jan
@GayotFow The ‘removal from UK, do the Irish authorities know this’-question, is that safe to be reopened at this point? To me it looks like there's still a lot missing …
 
@Willeke do it!
 
@GayotFow I wonder how to find the policy bit, so I can quote it.
 
6:32 PM
@Willeke you only need to cite the cliometric exclusions.
@Jan it's true we don't know what he was removed for.
 
That would help if I did undertand what cliometric exclusions are, and where to find them.
 
But the data sharing is real focused :)
 
I give up, I can not ever force myself to open that link.
You better write that answer yourself.
 
@Jan you would be able to look it up and answer the ROI sharing one.
@Willeke what's wrong with the link?
 
Something else, this looks rather spammy to me: travel.stackexchange.com/a/77225/27650
What is wrong is me, tired, not good in technical language and not a native speaker on top of that.
 
6:37 PM
@Willeke both of them should be flagged and commented as spam
 
Sofie has been on the site a while, she did come back to tell she is not part of the company but a friend who wants to help out. (now deleted 'answer' which I edited in when it was posted.)
 
7:19 PM
Air China has check-in desks. Who knew!?
 
I have seen check-in desks pop up, be open for an hour and disappear before the flight it due, with airport changing to digital displays of airlines on the desks it is even easier.
 
chx
But that wasnt the question
the question was bag drop off
and i still have no idea what he is asking
 
In some airports each airline has its own bag drop off. In others there seems to be a more centralized drop off point, accepting for more airlines. (Some might even do for all airlines, but I can not remember one of those.)
In AMS you used to have a bag drop off at each check-in position and only a few specialized ones for special luggage, (oversized and such) Maybe he was looking for one of those.
 
chx
I asked and the comment answer is nonsensical
 
chx
7:42 PM
OK so travel.stackexchange.com/questions/77169/… now we know it's unlikely to be CGI
I will put a big bounty on this tmrw.
 
That will be too late :)
 
chx
8:18 PM
OH WOW
How did you find it??
 
"hotels" "africa" :)
 
chx
there's a ton of those...?
 
I included a photo extract in the image search
interestingly the image on the site is a slightly different angle. must've been taken on the same day
probably...
 
chx
can you search on an image and keywords both?
 
yes
 
chx
8:25 PM
example url?
 
in the image search, you upload an image and then add some keywords
 
chx
ah
well then I learned something new today
this day is not wasted :)
 
:)
 
9:25 PM
very nice going @Berwyn!
 
9:42 PM
Cheers @ZachLipton
 
 
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11:52 PM
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