Game of Life and Life-like automata

LegionMammal978

11:32 AM

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 You generate a new rule yet?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@LegionMammal978 Doing that now

Random totalistic rule for the day: B56/S25 (seed: 23).

@LegionMammal978 do you want to subscribe someone to the RTRFTD feed?

Also, your RTRFTD is ready.

Non-explosiveness proof:

x = 14, y = 26, rule = B56/S25
8b2o$8bo4$12bo$11b2o2$12b2o$12bo$4b2o$5bo6bo$8b2obobo$8bo3bo2$o$2o2$5b
2o$5bo5$10bo$10b2o!

@LegionMammal978 are you searching B56/S25?

LegionMammal978

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 yup

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

I found a p2:

x = 2, y = 3, rule = B56/S25
2o$bo$2o!

LegionMammal978

But yeah, as always, the B2 makes pre-block a still-life

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

x = 27, y = 10, rule = B56/S25
11bo3bo$3b3o4bobobobo$3bobo5bo3bo2$2o2bo2b2o10b2o3b2o$o2bobo2bo9bo2bob
o2bo$2o2bo2b2o9bo2bobo2bo$19b2o3b2o$3bobo$3b3o!

^ This is a p2 joystick in B56/S25. :3

TùxCräftîñg

11:44 AM

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a still life

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@LegionMammal978 Do you want to subscribe to RTRFTDs?

TùxCräftîñg

there is a RTRFTD feed ಠ_ಠ

LegionMammal978

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 How?

@TùxCräftîñg Where?

Also:

x = 15, y = 24, rule = B56/S25
b2o9b2o$o2bo2b3o2bo2bo$o2bo2bobo2bo2bo$o2bo7bo2bo$o2bo7bo2bo$o2bo2bobo
2bo2bo$o2bo2b3o2bo2bo$o2bo7bo2bo$o2bo7bo2bo$o2bo2b3o2bo2bo$o2bo2bobo2b
o2bo$o2bo7bo2bo$o2bo7bo2bo$o2bo2bobo2bo2bo$o2bo2b3o2bo2bo$o2bo7bo2bo$o
2bo7bo2bo$o2bo2b3o2bo2bo$o2bo2bobo2bo2bo$o2bo7bo2bo$o2bo7bo2bo$o2bo2bo
bo2bo2bo$o2bo2b3o2bo2bo$b2o9b2o!

TùxCräftîñg

idk zyabin say that we can suscribe

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@LegionMammal978 Just ask me.

And I'll start to ping you with each RTRFTD.

TùxCräftîñg

11:47 AM

brb

LegionMammal978

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 sure, ping me

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@LegionMammal978 Okay.

You'll now be pinged with each RTRFTD after B56/S25 (seed: 23).

@LegionMammal978 So, no spaceships in B56/S25?

LegionMammal978

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Nope, nothing outside the initial box

As I said, spaceships require any of B0, B1, B2, or B3

x = 5, y = 8, rule = B56/S25
bo$2obo$2b2o$b2o$2b2o$b2o$bob2o$3bo!

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Time to create a new RTRFTD category: guaranteed spaceships.

zyabin101

12:18 PM

Random totalistic rule with possible spaceships for the day: B36/S24 (seeds: 3, 4).

@LegionMammal978 Subscribe you for the new category?

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 sure

zyabin101

@LegionMammal978 Okay.

TùxCräftîñg

p2: o$o$o!

zyabin101

You'll now be pinged for each RTRFTD with possible spaceships after B36/S24 (seeds: 3, 4).

Non-explosiveness proof:

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 I'm just going to split processing power, 3 cores for RTRSFTD and 1 core for regular RTRFTD

zyabin101

12:20 PM

x = 24, y = 30, rule = B36/S24
2bo$bobo$2bo10$4bo$4bo$4bo4$3o5$11b2o$11b2o$11bo2$22bo$21b3o$23bo!

TùxCräftîñg

still life: bo$obo$bo!

zyabin101

@LegionMammal978 Maybe give both 2 cores?

TùxCräftîñg

p2:

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LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 Nah, will be too much of a slowdown

TùxCräftîñg

the glider is a p4:

# #
 ##
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another p4: oo$oo$o!

zyabin101

12:25 PM

@TùxCräftîñg It's p4.

TùxCräftîñg

thx

oscillator that 'rotate' are pretty common in this rule

zyabin101

@LegionMammal978 and are there spaceships? :3

in B36/S24?

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 not in my first haul, but we should be patient

Some pretty crazy oscillators though

TùxCräftîñg

for now i havent found spaceships and ^

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can be a start for a infinite replicator

the square like this dont work, scale it ~3 times

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

wat

TùxCräftîñg

12:40 PM

this is a nromal oscilator

LegionMammal978

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ ikr, that's what I mean by crazy oscillators

TùxCräftîñg

for now, no gliders :/

LegionMammal978

@TùxCräftîñg not yet at least

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

infinity is a still life and this random thing too

TùxCräftîñg

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ this still life is infinite

and the other... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

catagolue.appspot.com/object/xs16_g8it64cz23/b36s24

ಠ_ಠ

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

12:46 PM

@TùxCräftîñg ?

LegionMammal978

x = 6, y = 6, rule = B36/S24
4bo$2b2obo$2b3o$o2b2o$o$b2o!

^ "two people throwing a brick around"

zyabin101

@LegionMammal978 What's your state of search of the RTRFTDs (the ones with spaceships and without)?

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 RTRFTD is boring as always, RTRSFTD has mostly still-lifes with some p2s, p4s, and p8s, no spaceships yet though

zyabin101

1:29 PM

Inaugural message!

hi

Third!

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Okay, let's not make this room a "who'll post nth" room.

Please wait for El'endia Starman to move the RTRFTD conversation there.

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 Currently working on a Golly script to convert patterns to apgcodes and vice versa

zyabin101

1:33 PM

@LegionMammal978 Decode the extended Welscher format, eh?

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 Yep, not too difficult, just takes time

zyabin101

To learn the extended Welscher format?

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 and to program it

TùxCräftîñg

what is the extended Welscher format?

LegionMammal978

I mean the format is relatively intuitive

zyabin101

1:34 PM

There's a LifeWiki article about the extended Welscher format.

LegionMammal978

@TùxCräftîñg conwaylife.com/wiki/Apgcode

zyabin101

@LegionMammal978 ninja'd

ninja'd

ninja ninja'd

k

1:35 PM

ninjaception!

TùxCräftîñg

2 many ninja'd ಠ_ಠ

zyabin101

Okay, let's not make this room a "ninja'd" room.

El'endia Starman

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zyabin101

@El'endiaStarman Thanks.

El'endia Starman

@zyabin101 No problem. :) Have fun!

zyabin101

1:45 PM

This is the room's giant ticker:

x = 619, y = 357, rule = B3/S23
372b2o$372bo$362bo7bobo$362b4o4b2o$346bo16b4o$345bobo5b2o8bo2bo$338b2o
3b2o3bo14b4o$338b2o3b2o3bo4bobob2o3b4o6b2o12b2o$343b2o3bo5b2o3bo2bo9bo
13b2o$345bobo10bo11bobo$346bo8bo2bo11b2o$386bo$385b3o$384bo3bo$360bo3b
2o20bo$359bobo3b2o16bo5bo$364bo18bo5bo57b2o$384bo3bo58bo$385b3o49bo7bo
bo$361bobo73b4o4b2o$362b2o57bo16b4o$420bobo5b2o8bo2bo$413b2o3b2o3bo14b
4o$384bo28b2o3b2o3bo4bobob2o3b4o6b2o12b2o$418b2o3bo5b2o3bo2bo9bo13b2o$
420bobo10bo11bobo$384bo36bo8bo2bo11b2o$384bobo74bo$384b2o74b3o$459bo3b

(giant in terms of the pattern)

This LWSS ticker makes the letters PCG. :3

But at least I found out that the multi-line message limit is really huge.

@LegionMammal978 @TùxCräftîñg commence discussion of RTRFTD and RTRFTD with possible spaceships.

TùxCräftîñg

legionmammal is offline

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 Currently going through PEP8

zyabin101

@TùxCräftîñg ^ legionmammal is online

TùxCräftîñg

k

zyabin101

@LegionMammal978 Why go thru PEP 8?

Welcome to the Game of Life, @EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ!

LegionMammal978

1:53 PM

@zyabin101 good point, lemme continue actual "work"

zyabin101

Commence discussion of RTRFTD and RTRFTD with possible spaceships?

Welcome to the Game of Life, @Lause!

Lause

hello

zyabin101

@Lause Hello :3

TùxCräftîñg

hi

a p2

most of GOL still lifes are in b36s24

zyabin101

x = 81, y = 81, rule = B3/S23
40bo$41bo$39b3o17$40bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$41bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$39b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o
2b3o3$40bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$41bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$39b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o3$40bo4bo
4bo4bo4bo$41bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$39b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o3$40bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$41b
o4bo4bo4bo4bo$39b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o3$bo38bo4bo4bo4bo4bo18bo$2bo38bo4bo
4bo4bo4bo18bo$3o36b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o16b3o37$40bo$41bo$39b3o!

LegionMammal978

2:09 PM

x = 48, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$2bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$3o2b3o2b
3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o3$bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$2bo4bo4b
o4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o3$bo4bo4b
o4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$2bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b
3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o3$bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$2bo4bo4bo4bo4bo
4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o3$bo4bo4bo4bo4bo
4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$2bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o

@zyabin101 ^

zyabin101

x = 106, y = 106, rule = B3/S23
40bo24bo$41bo24bo$39b3o22b3o17$40bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$41bo4bo
4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$39b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o3$
40bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$41bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$39b3o
2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o3$40bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$
41bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$39b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o
2b3o3$40bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$41bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$
39b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o3$bo24bo13bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4b

@LegionMammal978 ^

and

x = 81, y = 81, rule = B3/S23
40bo$41bo$39b3o17$15bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$16bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo
4bo4bo4bo4bo$14b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o3$15bo4bo4bo4bo
4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$16bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$14b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b
3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o3$15bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$16bo4bo4bo4bo
4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$14b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o3$15bo4bo
4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$16bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo$14b3o2b3o2b3o
2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o3$bo13bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo18bo$2b

Four glider fleets.

Commence discussion of RTRFTD and RTRFTD with possible spaceships?

@LegionMammal978 what's your state on search of them?

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 Nothing new here

zyabin101

._.

Idea: Make a feed in the room with all the new discoveries in B3/S23.

LegionMammal978

x = 378, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
24bo37bo37bo37bo37bo37bo37bo37bo37bo37bo$22bobo35bobo35bobo35bobo35bob
o35bobo35bobo35bobo35bobo35bobo$12b2o6b2o12b2o14b2o6b2o12b2o14b2o6b2o
12b2o14b2o6b2o12b2o14b2o6b2o12b2o14b2o6b2o12b2o14b2o6b2o12b2o14b2o6b2o
12b2o14b2o6b2o12b2o14b2o6b2o12b2o$11bo3bo4b2o12b2o13bo3bo4b2o12b2o13bo
3bo4b2o12b2o13bo3bo4b2o12b2o13bo3bo4b2o12b2o13bo3bo4b2o12b2o13bo3bo4b
2o12b2o13bo3bo4b2o12b2o13bo3bo4b2o12b2o13bo3bo4b2o12b2o$2o8bo5bo3b2o
16b2o8bo5bo3b2o16b2o8bo5bo3b2o16b2o8bo5bo3b2o16b2o8bo5bo3b2o16b2o8bo5b

@zyabin101 ^

TùxCräftîñg

I HAVE FOUND A POTENTIAL START FOR GLIDERS \o/

zyabin101

2:17 PM

There's a Twitter bot about all new discoveries in B3/S23.

TùxCräftîñg

#CXRLE Pos=-1408,-5 Gen=1528
x = 1531, y = 1403, rule = B36/S24
1397b3o$1398b2o8$1414b3o$1414b2o7$1419b3o$1419b2o50$1406bo$1405bobo$
1406bo7$1392b3o28$1377b3o2$1349bo161bobo$1349bo$1349bo162bobo$1513bo2$
1513b2o$1511bo2bo$1511b2obo$1511bobo$1511bobo4bobo$1519bo$1511b2o5bobo
$1338b2o181b2o3bo$1338b3o185b2obo$1519b2o4b2o$1328b2o188b2o7bo2bo$
1328b2o193bo4b3o$1329bo196bob3o$1522b2obo4bo$1521b2o4b4o$1340bo181b2o
6bo$1339bobo13b3o169b4o$1340bo15b2o15bo132bo8bo6b2ob2o2b2o$1373b3o130b
o8bo6bobobo3bo$1375bo139bo7bo2bo2b2o$1375b2o146b4o3bo$1526bo2b2o$1518b

the line at the right advance

zyabin101

2:28 PM

I tweet a lot. If you want to see only the most interesting patterns of those I report, as well as other relevant news, follow @conwaylife

Tweeted by conwaylifebot on March 30, 2016 at 7:00 AM

Oh noes. :(

TùxCräftîñg

?

zyabin101

The Twitter bot I linked to seems to send every new discovery to Twitter.

TùxCräftîñg

:/

zyabin101

2:41 PM

@LegionMammal978 what's your state on search of the RTRFTDs? Nothing new here?

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 New 19-cell still-life, not much else

Give it a few hours

zyabin101

:O

I should really make an RSS feed for news on RTRFTDs.

TùxCräftîñg

with my manual way i dont think i will find something :/

but i cant build any of apgmera, apgsearch...

zyabin101

I'll make a random soup generator.

TùxCräftîñg

someone know how i can get python 2 dll

?

zyabin101

2:48 PM

@TùxCräftîñg Install Python 2, of course!

TùxCräftîñg

ಠ_ಠ

zyabin101

The Python 2 DLL can only be found within Python 2!

TùxCräftîñg

so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

go to install it

ok shit

in golly i have tryed to set the dll at python35.dll but now when i try to launch a python strict i get Python_InitModule4 is not defined and idk how to cancel it :/

found

LegionMammal978

@TùxCräftîñg I figured out how to make apgmera compile

TùxCräftîñg

?

LegionMammal978

2:54 PM

@TùxCräftîñg Just add #define _GLIBCXX_USE_CXX11_ABI 0 to the top of main.cpp

TùxCräftîñg

k

LegionMammal978

(I've already filed it as a bug, might take a few months before it's noticed)

TùxCräftîñg

k

zyabin101

@LegionMammal978 Maybe you can talk about the bug in the apgmera thread on the ConwayLife forums?

LegionMammal978

Okay, just finished the script, to use just copy the apgcode to your clipboard and run the script:

import golly
def die(invalid):
  golly.exit('Invalid apgcode {}'.format(invalid))
code = golly.getclipstr()
try:
  [prefix, data] = code.split('_', 1)
except ValueError:
  die(code)
if prefix == 'ov':
  try:
    data = data.split('_')[1]
  except ValueError:
    die(code)
chars = '0123456789abcdefghijklmnopqrstuv'
i = 0
while i < len(data):
  if data[i] in chars or data[i] in ('w', 'x', 'z'):
    i += 1
  elif data[i] == 'y':
    if i + 1 == len(data) or not(data[i + 1] in chars):
      die(code)

(May have some bugs in input validation)

@zyabin101 @TùxCräftîñg ^^

TùxCräftîñg

3:03 PM

cool but cant use it :/

LegionMammal978

@TùxCräftîñg Don't have Golly?

TùxCräftîñg

golly crash when i launch a python script

LegionMammal978

._.

TùxCräftîñg

;_;

zyabin101

@LegionMammal978 You might want to use golly.getstring for input, so that you can run the apgcode decoder from the clipboard.

Just change line:

LegionMammal978

3:05 PM

,;_;,

zyabin101

code = golly.getclipstr()

to

code = golly.getstring("Enter an apgcode")

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 ?

zyabin101

Or something like that.

LegionMammal978

It already takes input from the clipboard

zyabin101

@LegionMammal978 As such, you can't run the script from the clipboard.

LegionMammal978

3:09 PM

@zyabin101 ???

zyabin101

I copy the script from the keyboard...

Then, I choose File ==> Run Clipboard from the menu...

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 Oh, I just saved it to a file :p

zyabin101

Invalid apgcode import gollydef die(invalid):...

I prefer to run scripts I find online from the clipboard.

You should use golly.getstring so you can run the script from the clipboard.

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 Okay, you can make the patch yourself ._.

zyabin101

import golly
def die(invalid):
  golly.exit('Invalid apgcode {}'.format(invalid))
code = golly.getstring("Enter an apgcode")
try:
  [prefix, data] = code.split('_', 1)
except ValueError:
  die(code)
if prefix == 'ov':
  try:
    data = data.split('_')[1]
  except ValueError:
    die(code)
chars = '0123456789abcdefghijklmnopqrstuv'
i = 0
while i < len(data):
  if data[i] in chars or data[i] in ('w', 'x', 'z'):
    i += 1
  elif data[i] == 'y':
    if i + 1 == len(data) or not(data[i + 1] in chars):

^ This version works with the clipboard.

Just that you enter the apgcode in a prompt, rather than putting it in the clipboard.

zyabin101

3:25 PM

@LegionMammal978 what's your state on search of the RTRFTDs? Nothing new here?

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 nope