The Nth Monitor

Dan Pantry

4:23 AM

Well, guys

Our country has voted to leave the EU

Heslacher

@DanPantry are all votes counted ?

Dan Pantry

@Heslacher No, but the Leave campaign is ahead by 1.3 million votes. The only need half of the votes to win, which means they only need 800,000 further in order to win

Heslacher

to bad IMO that your country is leaving

Dan Pantry

Unless the next 26 constituencies vote remain and garner 2.1 million votes, it seems unlikely we will be remaining

Really bad. The value of the £ has tanked already (compared to the $)

Also will make my offer at Riot that much harder since no one knows what will happen to UK nationals who rely on EU freedom of movement visas..

I only have one word for this: Crap.

Dan Pantry

4:58 AM

hopefully this doesn't spell trouble for @JeroenVannevel in his new job

Vogel612

5:52 AM

Yaaay poltics and messy britain are ruining people's days again

Sorry brits, but you're really good at that

Quill

6:12 AM

"Invest in the market," they said. "Britain won't Russian roulette with a Glock," they said.

Tweeted by SwiftOnSecurity on June 24, 2016 at 2:32 AM

Vogel612

2% majority is not a majority for huge things like this ..

Dan Pantry

@Vogel612 Hopefully the brit government try and negotiate a center position

Vogel612

Something like norway has?

Dan Pantry

Basically

Which would be hilarious

Because we would have voted out of the Eu to avoid immigration and sovereignty issues and end up having to agree to the Schengen agreement and agree to laws set by the EU anyway :D

Vogel612

6:27 AM

Eurgh.. that's the most stupid reason against EU that I've ever heard

Dan Pantry

Well, that's basically the reasons for leaving

That and the media has spun that we send £350m/day to the EU (we get about 2/3rd of it back in rebates)

Vogel612

It's going to be fun when everyone who actually pays in the EU leaves.. at this point I'm expecting the german and french right wing parties to rally and say: "they can do that, let's do that too now"

And it will work in france but not in germany

Also I find it rather intriguing that bbc dot com has some right wing german petition advertisement for me...

Dan Pantry

I don't really know what happens now, how this will impact my Riot application, etc

Jeroen Vannevel

6:58 AM

well aint this just lovely

no idea yet how this will affect me, we'll see

Dan Pantry

same, @JeroenVannevel. I'm hoping it doesn't affect my application with Riot, but it means I'll have to factor in a Visa in 2 years..

Jeroen Vannevel

On the upside: now is the time for me to switch some euros to pounds

Vogel612

-@DanPantry you'd be going to ireland, right?

Jeroen Vannevel

on the downside: I'm being paid in pounds

Ireland and UK have a special thing going on. I'm not sure if you'd need a visa for them

Dan Pantry

@Vogel612 ROI, which is part of the EU.

It's not Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK.

Vogel612

7:02 AM

also there's Schengen.

Dan Pantry

Northern Ireland and ROI are two separate countries.

Vogel612

you may not need a visa, but you may need a work permit

Dan Pantry

The ROI does not participate in the Schengen area (something about a sea being in the way of it all)

Vogel612

why does it all have to be complicated???

Dan Pantry

Work permit sounds likely, but maybe not for the next 2 years (hopefully?)

Vogel612

7:05 AM

the way I understood the news article for the duration of the negotiations everything stays the same

Dan Pantry

except the value of the british pound, apparently...

@JeroenVannevel ask to be paid in dollars, haha

Jeroen Vannevel

yeah I should've

even euros are 6.5% up against the pound apparently

Dan Pantry

@JeroenVannevel that €60k/pa is sounding nicer and nicer

providing the euro doesn't collapse as a result

Vogel612

you wish,.

Jeroen Vannevel

I think a lot of the London-based stuff now just moves inland towards Berlin so that will move stability over as well

Dan Pantry

7:12 AM

tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/currency

lol

it's like a cliff

Vogel612

@JeroenVannevel I'd guess Frankfurt, actually

Quill

Ask to be paid in Bitcoins; they're going up

Dan Pantry

can't pay rent in bitcoin

Jeroen Vannevel

Germany, basically

we'll see what the practical applications of this are, I guess

Dan Pantry

@Zak is gonna have fun when he comes back from his holiday ^^

Jeroen Vannevel

7:14 AM

BEL20 (belgian stock market) lost 9% already

lol

Vogel612

told ya, euro is going to go tank

Quill

@DanPantry at least you can buy pizza

Vogel612

meh... this is getting long-winded for politics. Mind if I move this all to the nth?

Dan Pantry

Go for it @Vogel612

Vogel612

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Dan Pantry

7:17 AM

at least it's not Trash

Vogel612

lol it isn't

this is probably the number one topic on chat right now I guess

Mathematics already had some flags flying

Dan Pantry

facebook.com/GMB/videos/1739363339653897

(background: interviewing guy is the guy who made the leave campaign)

Vogel612

"this content is not available"

Dan Pantry

okay, i'll transcribe it, hold on

Vogel612

link timed out or it's intended target group doesn't include me ....

wtf facebook?

Dan Pantry

7:18 AM

"The £130million that was being sent to the EU, can you guarantee that will go to the NHS?"

"Well, no, that would be silly and the leave campaign would never have said that-"

"But that was one of your promises"

"Well, that was a mistake"

Basically along the lines of that ^

And I wish I were making it up, but I'm not

This is a big deal, because that was one of the big points of the UKIP manifesto

and they've just gone back on it within 2 hours of the result being official

Vogel612

hrngh ....

Dan Pantry

7:34 AM

our PM just resigned

Vogel612

effective October..

@DanPantry does that automatically trigger new elections?

Dan Pantry

Yes, but, still, he's announced it

@Vogel612 No, but it puts it on our minds

Vogel612

UKIP does get quite a boost from this, don't they?

Dan Pantry

I bloody hope not, they're vultures

But, if labour do not adjust, people will likely not want to vote conservative due to Cameron, so, yes..

skiwi

8:14 AM

@DanPantry More reasons to try for Riot now?

Sorry for the UK guys, but I really hope the UK will crash hard, so hard that all parties in The Netherlands who want a referendum to leave the EU will be considered absolute crazy

I don't trust our Dutch population at all for a referendum

Mast

Same here.

Simon Forsberg

Oh crap. We will miss you, UK.

<3 EUROPE!

Mast

I guess we'll just have to conquer the world and get it over with.

Dan Pantry

8:59 AM

@skiwi yes & no

I think the leave will make it harder for me to stay in Dublin long term for obvious reasons

UK is going to crash SO bad

Scotland will go independent now, Northern Ireland will join up with ROI and unionise.

We'll be the Alright Britain.

it really sucks because I am very much a globalist :\

@skiwi It also lends some hope to the US elections

If people see this ultra-nationalist crap fail in the UK they may be less wanting to vote for drumpf (who backed the Leave campaign)

armchair-economist

@SimonForsberg I will miss you too. :(

Vogel612

the biggest problem I have with this outcome is that the EU will probably have to tank another crapload of economic downfall

at least the German stock market lost hard

and NY isn't even awake yet

Mast

9:22 AM

@DanPantry How hard is getting a new nationality nowadays?

Come to the dark side, we have cookies.

Dan Pantry

@Mast Haven't really looked into it.

I dont' think I could convert to Dutch at the drop of a hat :P

Mast

No, but any EU country would do I guess.

Including Ireland.

They even pay with Euros there. Fare more advanced than the Brits.

Dan Pantry

lol :)

I'm not really sure how the economy is going to fare

whether everything will tank

Vogel612

Maid Café says that Australian economy already tanks

Vogel612

9:52 AM

omfg. it was so obvious...

right wing extemist nationalists want a EU Referendum in Germany

Mast

At least in Germany they'll likely lose it.

I simply can't imagine Germany leaving the EU.

Vogel612

It's not that unlikely given the current mood

sure they'll probably fail spectacularly

but I wouldn't discount it as impossible

I expect there to be something like 30% for exiting :/

Mast

If Germany leaves the EU and Turkey enters it, I'm migrating to Canada.

Vogel612

lol if Germany leaves the EU after Britain already exited, the EU will collapse

Mast

Pretty much.

Vogel612

10:01 AM

because at that point France will also leave and then most of the EU funds are away

and even if France doesn't leave, they simply cannot keep the EU alive

depending on how it works out in Scotland and Northern Ireland the damage might be controllable

it could be especially funny if the city of london decides to say "fuck it, we're leaving the kingdom"...

because IIUC they technically can do that

Mast

Britain without London, now that would be something...

Vogel612

Sounds crazy but I can imagine a scenario where Scotland, N Ireland, Wales, & London all have independence referendums leaving England alone

Tweeted by cgpgrey on June 24, 2016 at 4:23 AM

Mast

I can imagine Scotland declaring independence over this.

Vogel612

oh I hope they actually pull that off-

Dan Pantry

@Mast As far as I am concerned but Germany iIS the EU lol

@Mast They will. Every single constituency in Scotland had a large majority "remain" vote.

Vogel612

10:53 AM

So Chancellor Merkel invited France, Italy and the EU Council's president ... seems we're going to make this thing happen ....

Mast

The Netherlands is president at the moment.

skiwi

11:21 AM

@Vogel612 I heard that the ECSC will gather tomorrow, not sure if that's the same?

European Coal and Steel Community

The European Coal and Steel Community (ECSC) was an international organisation serving to unify certain Continental European countries after World War II. It was formally established in 1951 by the Treaty of Paris, which was signed by Belgium, France, West Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Luxembourg. The ECSC was the first international organisation to be based on the principles of supranationalism, and would ultimately lead the way to the founding of the European Union. The ECSC was first proposed by French foreign minister Robert Schuman on 9 May 1950 as a way to prevent further war between...

I think it's a bit odd given that the EU exists, why gather with the former ECSC?

(The Netherlands is there as full member, not because they are president at the moment)

Vogel612

News are confusing

Mast

The whole Brexit is confusing and if I read the reports correctly, many voted to leave because they think it will solve certain issues.

I'm quite certain it's not that easy.

skiwi

11:37 AM

Some even voted to leave because then they could renegotiate their EU membership

I can't stand that Boris Johnson, he looks too similar to Donald Trump

Haven't actually heard him talking yet though, so maybe it's not that bad

skiwi

11:56 AM

@Vogel612 Considering the tone of Merkel I'm curious what the real plan is, I wouldn't be surprised if they let EU be as it is and shift more power to a new trade association between the bigger (Western) members of Europe

Vogel612

We'll see

skiwi

1:02 PM

Somehow this whole thing turned more into whether the UK remains to exist than whether the EU remains to exist

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Dan Pantry

6:03 PM

@skiwi The Alright Kingdom

skiwi

The Not-so-united Kingdom?

Dan Pantry

6:23 PM

OOTH I've bookde my tickets to fly to Dublin. 6th July

Malachi

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skiwi

@DanPantry :O The Riot interview is happening?

Dan Pantry

skiwi

6:44 PM

@DanPantry Congrats :o what did they all have to tell?

Dan Pantry

7:14 PM

@skiwi I'm nto sure I understand what youre asking ^^

skiwi

8:05 PM

@DanPantry Well about the whole error with schedulign the interview and you barely being able to attend

Mast

8:42 PM

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Q: Must the UK leave the EU?

The BBC has projected that a majority voted for the UK to leave the EU. Is the referendum binding, or does ultimate authority lie with parliament?

skiwi

Cameron isn't going to do it, he's just announced his resignation. — Separatrix 13 hours ago

That's a good point

Mast

It also makes it a lot more complicated.

skiwi

not-my-problem

> Points 542 (Rank 4.185 of 10.861)

Mast

9:02 PM

I suspected after a recent screenshot of yours you started again.

More

Lines

To

Get

That

Annoying

Flashy

Thing

high enough so it isn't on my screen anymore.

Blames @DanPantry

Have fun in Dublin :-)

skiwi

:D

So far I haven't built a single piece of fleet

and I'd like to keep it that way

the number one has 8432 points and this is after 2 weeks I think

not having commanders and stuff actually balances the game a lot lol

Mast

@skiwi Doesn't sound like your playstyle though.

Oh, they finally launched a non-DM universe?

skiwi

True, but I don't really want to start playing

@Mast Yeah, with like old skin etc. runs on v 0.77 so doesn't have a lot of stuff

but the core game is there of course

Mast

Is that pre-battlecruiser?

skiwi

yea

Mast

9:15 PM

Power to the battleships.

skiwi

It even had probe raiding, but they disabled that and added the Gammaglider

Actually not sure about probe raiding, i thought this thing was supposed to replace it, but it's just a troll

SI 1000 means metal + crystal is at most 1000 and it needs Shipyard 14 and Hyperdrive 10

For reference, a Deathstar needs Shipyard 12 and Hyperdrive 7

Mast

Gammaglider? I do not recall that ship.

skiwi

@Mast That's because it's a new one

Mast

I thought they were going to make it an old universe.

Now they added new stuff?

skiwi

Just that single thing though

Doesn't look like it will really affect gameplay though

Mast

9:32 PM

With a speed equal to a Deathstar, no, not likely. Perhaps they'll be used as fleetsave cargoships.

skiwi

TTGO

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