Language Overflow

toha

2:09 AM

Hello Friends

good morning

johnchae

2:47 AM

Morning!

V.V.

Morning!

Damkerng T.

5:54 AM

Morning, everyone!

Today's reflection: it's really hard to think like a native speaker, no matter how long you've learned a second language. Unlike a common belief that's quite reasonable to many of us, a master's degree or a Ph.D. in a second language doesn't seem to help much. Native intuition can trump that any time. My guess is it's precisely because native speakers don't "study" the language. They "learned" it.

metro.co.uk/2016/02/18/…

> You then go on to wear that T-shirt for three days and three nights without using deodorant, before returning the worn shirt to them.
Once received, Smell Dating will send you 10 samples cut from T-shirts worn by other users of the site.
All you have to do from there is smell the shirts and get in touch with the site to let them know which ones you like best.

"..."

CowperKettle

6:30 AM

Morning, all.

> The Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) successfully test launched the first 'Made in India' space shuttle — called the Reusable Launch Vehicle (RLV) — early on Monday morning from Sriharikota in Andhra Pradesh.

Damkerng T.

Another step to Skynet!

CowperKettle

At least it will be with dances and songs now.

Damkerng T.

:D

toha

Will snailplane will use this vehicle as his new name?

Damkerng T.

Word of the Day: embargo

@toha Only she can tell.

toha

6:46 AM

So, she is female?

Is she still young?

<3

Damkerng T.

Uh-huh

Haha!

toha

:D

TIPS

7:02 AM

@toha You're dangerous.

toha

no...

I am not

Hello @CowperKettle , still translating your last job?

TIPS

No, he's here to throw a poem at us.

toha

what kind of poem?

TIPS

What do you mean what kind of poem?

toha

who's here to make poem?

what you mean?

TIPS

7:09 AM

@toha Master @Cowp

toha

good

hello TIPS

are you live at Iran?

TIPS

@toha *do

And yes. :)

toha

I watch at tv, there are chaos there.

TIPS

Whoa is there?

Looks outside

Araucaria

Morning all ...

TIPS

7:21 AM

\o @Arau

We're talking about chaos.

Araucaria

@DamkerngT. Morning (sheepish grin)

@TIPS, @toha o/

toha

Hello, @Araucaria

Damkerng T.

@Araucaria Morning! :D

TIPS

@DamkerngT. Sawasdee

Araucaria

@DamkerngT. Hi!

@DamkerngT. I feel awful!

Damkerng T.

7:23 AM

@TIPS Sawasdee khrap

TIPS

@Araucaria :o Why?

Damkerng T.

@Araucaria Oh! How come?

Araucaria

:29834169, @TIPS Snailplane offered a 500 bounty on my "an amazing 2 days" question.

TIPS

Woot, she's feeling generous.

Araucaria

@DamkerngT. I think our discussion here might have influenced that. But it's a long time since I read those answers

Damkerng T.

7:25 AM

I think it's awesome!

TIPS

Why don't my unanswered questions get bounties? (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻

Araucaria

@DamkerngT. Ah, erm, having reread MarliLou's post there, I now remember that the reason that I didn't feel that I got a full blooded answer to my question, is that it seems (from GK Pullum's comments in LanguagelLog) that nobody knows the answer!!

Damkerng T.

Oh!

Araucaria

@DamkerngT. In addition to that, GKP suggests [an amazing two][days], although he isn't sure that's correct. So that's almost definitely where I got that idea from ...

TIPS

PSA: There seems to be a new bug in chat that hides the reply arrow when the reply one-boxes.

Araucaria

7:28 AM

@DamkerngT. Although, it seems to me that in the case of whopping, it's clearer that it's the number that's whopping!

Damkerng T.

For me, it's somewhat related to a good education. For some reason, we need that a, too.

Araucaria

@DamkerngT., So maybe I owe @snailplane 500 rep! (oops) urgh. (hides face)

Damkerng T.

@TIPS lol

@Araucaria Hehe!

TIPS

Huh? An uncapitalized "LOL" from @Dam?

Damkerng T.

@TIPS It's a little harder to capitalize it on my iPad.

Araucaria

7:30 AM

@snailplane Please see my comments to Dam further above ...

@DamkerngT. Hmm, interesting example.

Anyhows. Now I come here and confessed to SP, I'm going to scuttle off and hide.

Ciao all! \o

o/

\o

\o

I was gonna say something but I just forgot.

toha

do not say anything

Damkerng T.

9:10 AM

wpr.org/remembering-wprs-karl-schmidt

RIP, Karl Schmidt.

Damkerng T.

9:30 AM

0

Q: Paraphrase this sentence

I don't understand what the following sentence means. Would you please paraphrase it: You are more inclined to feel down to earth than somewhat removed. Source

Funny that this kind of test(?) can decide your future if someone happens to really believe in it.

For more details, see careervarsity.com/careertools/kiersey.pdf

Araucaria

Hmmm. M m m u u ssst go. Must not procrastinate on ELLLL. ......

Damkerng T.

@Araucaria Ookkaaayy!

A similar test: allthetests.com/quiz23/quiz/1194554918/Is-he-MrRight

Phrase of the Day: love him to pieces

Another interesting pair of "not-antonyms": You aren't supposed to feel down in your down time.

toha

10:20 AM

Hello @DamkerngT. You are very diligent to catch another user's questions

@CowperKettle Hello master

CowperKettle

Hi, Toha

toha

Hello.. You seem busy everyday...

TIPS

@toha Well, people watch the new questions page. Shrug

Damkerng T.

@TIPS Exactly. cc @toha

toha

Hello TIPS..

TIPS

10:24 AM

The CC is contagious!

toha

It seems you are very good at science..

Can You tell us how to convert CO2 to O2?

How to eliminate C element at CO2?

Is it can be?

Damkerng T.

This expression is interesting (I thought it was ungrammatical but it seems to be widespread): The only the thing that matters ...

toha

:D

TIPS

@toha Tip: We usually only greet once a day, and chat sporadically. If you don't want to end up greeting in half your messages, better just do it.

@toha There are very few things that are impossible.

Damkerng T.

The only the thing that matters to CO2 besides the O2 is C.

toha

10:27 AM

Tip: We usually only greet once a day, and chat sporadically. If you don't want to end up greeting in half your messages, better just do it. >>> I do not understand what does it mean?

Damkerng T.

@toha Executive summary: Just chat :P

TIPS

@toha I mean that you don't need to say "hello" every time you chat with someone after 30 minutes.

toha

@DamkerngT. >> Yes, it is.. But at chemistry to eliminate one element is difficult for beginner..

TIPS

As for your question,

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Q: How to convert Carbon dioxide into Carbon and Oxygen?

How can $\ce{CO2}$ be converted into Carbon and Oxygen? $$\ce{CO2 -> C + O2}$$ Alternatively: $$\ce{CO2 + ? -> C + O2}$$ I know that plants are able to do this. But I'm wondering if it can be done without using plants?

experimental-chemistry synthesis

toha

I say hello frequently because @CowperKettle always dismiss me

Damkerng T.

10:29 AM

0

Q: How to politely ask for clarification on a person's designation?

This is a dilemma I always face when talking with people. When some people introduce their self they would just tell Hello, I'm Martin and I'm an executive of ABC Company There are so many varieties of executives (marketing executive, chief executive etc). What would be the most polite way...

phrase formality conversation

Hmm... probably better at Workplace.SE?

TIPS

@toha Nah, he's busy getting confused about inorganic reactions.

@DamkerngT. Not sure about their scope, so no comment

Damkerng T.

If their company isn't small or not that unimportant to you, chances are you should already know their title, and if you don't you probably haven't done your homework well enough.

I guess it's even easier nowadays.

toha

ok

Damkerng T.

(I used to have to get such information from secretaries or their entourages sometimes.)

toha

10:43 AM

Hello @DamkerngT.

Let me guess..

about you

You have brown skin

and black hair..

aren't you?

TIPS

Hello @DamkerngT.

@Dam has white skin and a black helmet as far as I can see.

Also he can point to himself in a fancy way.

toha

See You later all

back home time

TIPS

\o

toha

o/

@TIPS Are you female?

Bye

TIPS

Nope.

toha

10:49 AM

See u later

TIPS

Bye

Damkerng T.

@toha Hmm... I wouldn't consider myself brown, but y'know brown has a very wide range of shades.

See you later!

Sometimes I'm mistaken as Japanese; maybe they know I ran away from the factory that manufactured me!

BTW, what's with the flagging?

Bob

peeks head in

Hi! Lots of blue going around.

Damkerng T.

I don't know what it was all about!

@Bob Wow, you are in so many rooms that the link to your profile is out of my screen!

Bob

@DamkerngT. ...I don't remember joining half of them.

Damkerng T.

10:58 AM

Haha!

Bob

Oh... they're those comments-to-chat rooms.

Damkerng T.

Ahh ... I see.

Anyway, welcome to the room!

Bob

Thanks. Hm... what happens around here?

Damkerng T.

I don't know. I'm not sure.

But we usually talk about random language stuff.

And pets, and poems, with some chemistry stuff and some interesting things spotted around the web.

Bob

Ah... s'pose I'll check back when it's more active.

Damkerng T.

11:04 AM

Okay!

(I'm deciding between yogaing and hula-hooping this evening. Any idea, anyone?)

TIPS

@Bob Wait for the next time @Snail finds a new snail.

Anonymous

11:19 AM

@Araucaria Please don't worry! I don't actually care about reputation :-)

Anonymous

Otherwise I wouldn't place dozens of bounties.

Anonymous

The main thing I care about on EL&U is having enough reputation to have the close/reopen privilege.

TIPS

(ﾉ＾◡＾)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻

Anonymous

Besides, it'll be fun to see if people write any new answers.

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. bicycling?

Damkerng T.

11:29 AM

@CowperKettle Haha!

Good evening, @snailplane!

CowperKettle

Good evening, @snailplane!

Anonymous

Good morning!

Anonymous

How's life on the other side of the world?

Damkerng T.

It's okay over here!

CowperKettle

It's too hot here.

+25C

Anonymous

11:31 AM

It's 6°C over here.

Anonymous

But it's early yet.

Damkerng T.

I know it's more exciting somewhere else.

Anonymous

Sometimes it's nice when life is non-exciting :-)

Anonymous

May you live in interesting times

"May you live in interesting times" is an English expression purported to be a translation of a traditional Chinese curse. Despite being so common in English as to be known as "the Chinese curse", the saying is apocryphal, and no actual Chinese source has ever been produced. == Origins == Despite being widely attributed as a Chinese curse, there is no equivalent expression in Chinese. The nearest related Chinese expression is "宁為太平犬，莫做亂离人" (nìng wéi tàipíng quǎn, mò zuò luàn lí rén), which is usually translated as "Better to be a dog in a peaceful time, than to be a human in a chaotic (warring...

Damkerng T.

@snailplane I guess so!

CowperKettle

11:34 AM

Excitotoxicity

Excitotoxicity is the pathological process by which nerve cells are damaged or killed by excessive stimulation by neurotransmitters such as glutamate and similar substances. This occurs when receptors for the excitatory neurotransmitter glutamate (glutamate receptors) such as the NMDA receptor and AMPA receptor are overactivated by glutamatergic storm. Excitotoxins like NMDA and kainic acid which bind to these receptors, as well as pathologically high levels of glutamate, can cause excitotoxicity by allowing high levels of calcium ions (Ca2+) to enter the cell. Ca2+ influx into cells activates...

Damkerng T.

@snailplane An interesting expression!

Anonymous

@CowperKettle Oh, that's new to me!

CowperKettle

> The harmful effects of glutamate on the central nervous system (CNS) were first observed in 1954 by T. Hayashi, a Japanese scientist who noted that direct application of glutamate to the CNS caused seizure activity, though this report went unnoticed for several years.

Anonymous

I feel like I'm responsible for the elevated exclamation point quotient this chat room experiences.

Anonymous

To which I say: Hooray!

CowperKettle

11:36 AM

(0:

Damkerng T.

@snailplane Hah! (and Hooray!)

Brian Tompsett - 汤莱恩

Trivia: The sensitivity to MSG (Glutamates) is known as Kwok's Syndrome. Mine was triggered by Miso Soup

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Araucaria

12:00 PM

@snailplane Thanks snailplane :)

@snailplane Hooray!!!!

CowperKettle

@snailplane Yes, glutamate is what drives our brains, especially our memory, via the NMDA receptor. Excess glutamate however can be harmful.

In some psychiatric disorders, there might exist a 'window' of such toxicity when the damage is done to the brain, after which the person's NMDA signaling is under-active.

Damkerng T.

12:51 PM

1

Q: Tense use in a scientific paper

I am writing a paper in mathematics. Stone theorems have a long history. B [B78] proved the stone theorem for the B model. C and D [CD14] not only prove a stone theorem for the cake process in random environment, but also have a nice overview of existing results. (here B, C and D are some name...

tense past-tense present-tense writing mathematics

This blog post may be useful:

phdblog.net/the-use-of-tense-in-literature-review

(Or, if you prefer the original post: thesiswhisperer.com/2011/05/09/the-tense-debate)

Færd

2:32 PM

Sometimes I find myself uttering for the first time a word or phrase that I don't remember having studied or heard ever before. Such an excitement it is, especially after I find I've used it correctly.

Damkerng T.

I can't say that I feel that very often, and when I feel it, I usually blame it on translation.

It's hard to know what was borrowed, not to mention when it was borrowed.

2

Q: 'due' is an adjective or what in this case?

I find this sentence from the online Merriam-Webster dictionary: everyone's right to dissent … is due the full protection of the Constitution I'm a bit confused by the structure of the sentence. I think a 'to' after 'due' is missed. If so, the sentence means 'everyone's right to dissent co...

word-usage grammar adjectives

This use of due is perhaps somewhat French like (as opposed to present day English like).

Færd

@DamkerngT. Is that a response to waht I said? :)

Damkerng T.

@Færd Just my reflection on my language.

Not quite a direct response, but some sort of echo, I guess. :-)

Færd

Ah, for I've been perplexed as to what relevance it bore to its precedent message.

And I'm talking in a funny manner like this because I'm reading pride and prejudice (originally published in 1813).

Damkerng T.

2:47 PM

Nice! It's not funny; it's just not plain, I think.

Færd

I sound rather posh to myself.

Damkerng T.

Sometimes I find that an expression I thought it's authentic Thai turns out to be something from another language. (It could as well be the other way around or the two borrowed the same thing from yet another language.)

Færd

I see.

Damkerng T.

But it's nice to have that kind of feeling from time to time, right?!

Færd

Yup!

I was talking about when my unconscious bubbles up something to my lips that I cannot remember when and where I picked it up.

Araucaria

2:51 PM

2

A: If parties and partying are both events, how are they different?

I can only propose an answer. I have no vetted grammar sources to lend weight to these ideas. Parties are portrayed as countable. In other words they are conceived of as punctive events which have beginnings and ends. Each bout of activity is portrayed as an event with a start and end point. I...

Damkerng T.

@Færd It's quite possible, too, that you might've heard or read it but can't remember from whom or from where.

@Araucaria Hmm... interesting!

Agree with the answer.

Araucaria

@DamkerngT. Cool, that's what I wanted to know! Thanks.

Damkerng T.

Thanks for bringing it up here. :D

Færd

@Araucaria Nice answer. You can take my upvote too.

Araucaria

@Færd Thanks old bean :)

Færd

2:57 PM

But I'm not sure if it's all about party having a beginning and an end.

Araucaria

@Færd I'm sure there may well be more to it. What's your thinking?

Færd

It seems to me as though party is conceived as every (many) other countable nouns normally are. As distinct objects or occurrences.

Araucaria

@Færd I agree.

Færd

Whether this distinction is especially due to their being begun and ended at certain times, I don't know.

@Araucaria I'm flattered. :)

Araucaria

@Færd I was thinking more from the other end. From the partying point of view. Partying is distinct from other types of activity, but it's difficult to pinpoint why 2 parties don't = 2 'partyings' in normal English. I think the lack of a beginning and end contribute to partying being uncountable and being an activity but not being an event, as it were.

@Færd But there's undoubtedly more to it, I'm sure. :)

Færd

3:03 PM

Hmm

Araucaria

Hmm

Færd

@Araucaria Can we say Don't jump from there. Jumping is bad for your knees, using jumping as an uncountable noun?

Araucaria

@Færd I would guess that jumping is probably a verb there. However, I think it is presented there as uncountable, imo.

but that's just my opinion, nothing more

Færd

If we do, then why is jumping uncountable here? Because it doesn't have a beginning and an end?

Or just that we're thinking of the activity, and not a singled-out example of it?

Araucaria

@Færd It is not that any occurrence of jumping doesn't have a beginning or an end, but that the practice of or abstract conception of jumping isn't portrayed as having a distinct beginning or end.

imo

@Færd But what differentiates a singled out occurrence of it from the activity?

It's a tough one to think and talk about! My brain hurts a bit :)

Færd

3:12 PM

Mine too, more than you prolly. I can't express my thoughts clearly in English yet.

Araucaria

@Færd You've picked up prolly though!

Færd

@Araucaria I just see having a beginnig and end as simply one of the proprties of being a distinct object or occurrence. I don't see why it should be singled out as the sole reason why partying and party differ.

Araucaria

@Færd Can you think of any other factors which differentiate an activity in general from an event involving that activity maybe?

@Færd You may well be right.

Færd

I'll inform you if I can, but I must go now, I'm afraid.

CUL @Araucaria!

Araucaria

@Færd By Fard, thanks for the insights!

Nice chatting :)

Færd

3:19 PM

I bet I learned more than I possibly shared.

o/

Araucaria

\o

bye all!

Damkerng T.

Addendum: CGEL discusses the four adjectives on page 546. — Damkerng T. 54 secs ago

Yay! After a long hunt!

I wouldn't have thought of like/unlike/worth which are quite common if I didn't find @CowperKettle's answer.

@Hua There are other adjectives that would make the structure easy to understand: He is like/unlike his brother. This question is worth a million dollars. — Damkerng T. 45 secs ago

Anonymous

4:05 PM

Although each of those words needs its own description!

Damkerng T.

I'm just happy I found them in CGEL!

TIPS

I'm just happy you're happy.

Damkerng T.

@DamkerngT. I will be a little reluctant to put "due" in the same category as like/unlike and worth. Some dictionaries classify them as a preposition, but still their grammatical functions could be explained. He is behaving like his brother. This question is worth receiving a million dollars. I will never call them a complement of an adjective. That's way too convenient and not right. — Rathony 4 mins ago

@Rathony It's not my idea, anyway. You can find them in CGEL if you follow my links. — Damkerng T. 1 min ago

I wonder if he still thinks it's "way too convenient and not right".

TIPS

@DamkerngT. Even if he doesn't, he's gonna insist on it, no?

Damkerng T.

I suppose that everyone can write their own version of English grammar, just like many people did in the late 19th century.

I wonder how they handled these four adjectives in the old days.

Anonymous

4:22 PM

We're getting some good answers lately on ELL!

Damkerng T.

yay!

TIPS

@snailplane Slowly entering that stage.

CowperKettle

5:27 PM

@DamkerngT. They had no interwebz, and got so bored that resorted to writing their own grammars.

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Nah! I think they were busying trying to make a name for themselves.

How 'bout my double '-ing'?! :P

I can't remember the estimated number of grammars that appeared in that period, but I remember that the number was huge!

Sep 30 '15 at 9:41, by Damkerng T.

> A 1991 survey by Ian Michael found more than 850 grammars of English published between 1801 and 1900 specifically for use in schools.

CowperKettle

> Twin Gore Slip-on Sneakers

O_O

Bloodthirsty sneakers

Damkerng T.

:D

Wow, that's a rather unclear image. -- I guess that those two "fangs" are the two "gores".

CowperKettle

nods

("I'm slowly lifting up the sanctions" -- "I'm feeling the rouble's exchange rate rising")

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle LOL

CowperKettle

5:39 PM

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Anonymous

5:58 PM

@DamkerngT. You can't really busy, but you can busy yourself (doing something).

Damkerng T.

@snailplane I think so! :D

TIPS

Busying @Dam

Damkerng T.

A little indeed, at the moment.

2

Q: "wait me" or "wait for me"?

I am interested to know which is the right way to say: wait me? Or wait for me? I was debating over this with my girlfriend, and she claims that we can also say "wait me". Is she right?

sentence-choice

BTW, does Wait my table as a command make sense?

TIPS

I haven't head "wait me" until I met this question. — TIPS 8 secs ago

Heck, this isn't even a common mistake.

Anonymous

It makes sense, but I can imagine going several lifetimes without ever hearing it.

Damkerng T.

6:07 PM

Hehe!

Anonymous

It's difficult to imagine when it would be an appropriate thing to say.

Damkerng T.

Maybe in a futuristic novel (as a command to a robot). (^_^)

TIPS

0

Q: Is this sentence an example of adverbial clause of manner?

"Hitler didn't kill all the Jews, he left some. So we know why he was killing them." This some years old tweet of Zakia Belkhiri, the current hero of social media, aroused outrage out of allegedly antisemitic connotation. The tweet has been translated into my native language this way: Hitler did...

meaning-in-context

Well

Scratches head

Isn't this double standard?

Thousands of other similar questions have been left open because "this is useful for learners and an analysis of this leads to better understanding."

So should we close, or should we leave open?

I was on the close side, but after I saw no one's there to help me and there are always fancy looking arguments against me, I quit.

Now I dunno.

ELL's moderation is a tragic mess.

Damkerng T.

I think StoneyB answered the question quite well in his comment.

TIPS

Mhm

CowperKettle

6:18 PM

yes, he nailed it

TIPS

So what's the point of closing when you get the answers?

CowperKettle

it's twitter-lingo, and the author is a non-native

Damkerng T.

(ﾉ＾◡＾)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻

CowperKettle

Ah.. maybe yes, we could have an answer then

Damkerng T.

(Just feel like I should flip it for TIPS. :-)

TIPS

6:19 PM

@DamkerngT. Haha this is a nice flip, apprentice

CowperKettle

maybe it could be retained. i did not vote to close

Ah, it was you, Dam.

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

CowperKettle

My brain fooled me into thinking it was Muhammad

Damkerng T.

I think the question could've been more on-topic if it was something like "Can I paraphrase this like that?"

CowperKettle

nods

Damkerng T.

6:22 PM

Or even simpler: "What does this sentence mean exactly?"

TIPS

6:45 PM

BTW @Dam @Cowp @Snail @Cat @TCh @Jim @Færd @Arau @V.V. @Nih I found that <s>.........................</s> makes up for a nice separator line in your posts. Much better than #_________________________ and --- (or ____).

So many people to ping!

When I dropped in chat only @Dam, @Snail and @Cowp were pingable, right?

Oh, and it was the Grande room.

Damkerng T.

Hmm... could you give me an example of such post?

TIPS

~~...............................................................................‌.............~~

Damkerng T.

Huh?

TIPS

In chat, of course I use ---. On the main site the HTML tag works though.

Damkerng T.

In chat rooms?

Oh, I see.

TIPS

6:53 PM

@DamkerngT. Try --- in a post on the main site. The SE preview makes a line but that's too thin to be useful.

Damkerng T.

But I like it thin! :D

TIPS

The alternative was using #______ that treated it like a headline and thus was more visible.

Haha

Damkerng T.

Could be useful when I want to have both sections and subsections in the same post.

Damkerng T.

7:12 PM

Wow, I can't catch most of its lyrics!

EAGULLS // NERVE ENDINGS

►

I guess it could be easier on my iPad.

Færd

@TIPS Thanks for the tips, TIPS.

Anonymous

7:31 PM

@TIPS I'll stick to --- :-)

Anonymous

in Japanese Language, 7 hours ago, by Dan Hulme

catamaran

Anonymous

in Japanese Language, 7 hours ago, by Dan Hulme

it's one of the few words in English of Tamil origin

TIPS

@snailplane (/¯◡ ‿ ◡)/¯ ~ ┻━┻

@Færd What do they call me TIPS for? <a redundant wink emoticon>

Anonymous

Because you're so triisopropyl-silly!

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TIPS

(ﾉ＾◡＾)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻

Even I gotta admit that's a good one. ^

Drama of the day

Araucaria

7:50 PM

@TIPS I think I'd prefer the --- for most things, BUT, I'll definitely try it out for some special breaks. Cheers

Catija

8:01 PM

0

Q: I am looking for some better words to describe someone who likes to speak to themselves

I was watching the episode 272 of Doraemon on Youtube. Nobita wanted to go outside, but the temperature was freezing outside, then Nobita spoke to himself, Burr...it's way too cold out I am looking for some words which can describe Nobita in this situation, that is, Nobita likes to speak to...

word-request phrase-request

Deleted answer here... Don't feel like it should be deleted... "mutter" is good, just needs to add "mutterer" to name the person.

Anonymous

8:15 PM

I don't like ℉ as much as °F.

tchrist

8:27 PM

mac(tchrist)% echo "I don't like ℉ as much as °F." | uniquote
I don't like \N{U+2109} as much as \N{U+B0}F.

mac(tchrist)% echo "I don't like ℉ as much as °F." | nfkc | uniquote
I don't like \N{U+B0}F as much as \N{U+B0}F.

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