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Q: Calling SSIS with SSISDB implementation from Sql Service broker

SukantaSo, the requirement is to call a Web service through SSIS and calling the SSIS from a Sql service broker activated Store proc. Here is what I have currently doing Queue CREATE QUEUE [schema].[ProccessingQueue] WITH STATUS = ON , RETENTION = OFF , ACTIVATION ( STATUS = ON , PROCEDURE_NAME = [...

Well researched first question
 
1:44 AM
@TomV ;-)
 
2:29 AM
Seconded
 
 
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6:10 AM
Thanks. Migrated and merged.
 
People a voting to migrate this to Stack Overflow but is this really a programming issue?
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Q: How to identify file for "The system cannot find the file specified." during a pg_ctl -D start?

JayI am attempting to configure replication streaming for the first time and I think I almost there, but I'm getting one message during pg_ctl -D start of the standby server. I am not a DBA or PostgreSQL DBA by trade, so this might not be a replication configuration question. Perhaps more of a gene...

 
6:36 AM
@AndriyM Thanks. Prevented that from happening.
 
7:16 AM
@swasheck Yes, being able to make good plots is important. But I think part of the problem is we don't always know what metrics will be useful in advance, or what distribution they will follow
So I'm trying to gather everything I can, and store enough info to calculate useful statistics when I figure out what they are
 
@TomV I read the rules from your link. Seems to have some similarities with bridge. And many differences, so I'd expect the strategies to be quite different.
@Heinzi -- I did try it, it worked, that's why I posted it. Maybe it doesn't work on T-SQL, but it's fine on Postgres and MySQL. — Malvolio 8 hours ago
To play devil's advocate, the question is tagged with and that tag has a description:
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Structured Query Language (SQL). For questions about the language, not Microsoft SQL Server (tag sql-server).
 
7:32 AM
@ypercubeᵀᴹ It was tagged . The displayed tag is a consequence of the synonym.
 
@ypercubeᵀᴹ I would perhaps rewrite the second sentence as something like this: "Applies to any database product that has implemented SQL, not just Microsoft SQL Server."
"Applies to questions about any..."
 
If only there were some way to suggest such an edit.
 
Of course I could just suggest that, but I'm not sure if it's correct technical language
 
@ypercubeᵀᴹ thanks for the comment on the question, I flagged it, so hope it will be migrated to DBA soon
you are right about that I need to be worry about joins as well
I just can't believe no one ever done this before
 
@AndriyM Fair enough. The point about the "not Microsoft SQL Server" is an attempt to point people to the [sql-server] tag instead of tagging [sql] when they mean the product.
 
7:45 AM
what else can I call adhoc reporting to search for open source applications like this
 
@PaulWhite I thought we had this nice little feature that reminds people to add a product tag whenever they specify sql.
Was it implemented on SO only?
 
@AndriyM I lost track. Not sure.
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A: Help the helpless with how-to-ask tag tips

Shog9Shucks, this is a pretty popular feature-request... Let's give it a try & see if it's more helpful than annoying: This'll pop up every time someone tries to ask a question with sql. It's not context-sensitive - if they've already included everything in that list, they'll still get the popup. B...

Seems like an SO-only trial.
 
@PaulWhite this for me or everyone ?
 
For AndriyM. Fixed.
 
@Mathematics No, that one was for me.
 
7:52 AM
Still don't know what the current status is though.
:28424896 Yep. Old habits die hard.
 
Deleted because wasn't sure there was no double entendre in that. (One can never know with English.)
 
Not until you mentioned it :)
 
Anyway, that was a good example of how confusing the sql tag is, I admit, although I also think the current description may be adding to the confusion somewhat.
 
Bombings at Brussels airport
Glad that didn't happen last week
 
8:13 AM
such a nice peiece of software not sure how they made it work though
 
8:24 AM
Boom! A metro station too
 
@TomV Are you in Brussels today?
 
@JamesLupolt Glad I'm not, I was at the airport last week
People who are will have a fun time trying to get home, all metro stations closed
 
So what are your options if you were stuck at the airport and the metro is shut down?
 
As long as there are trains leaving the airport there is a station there, but If you need to get out of the center of Brussels your options are basically walking or taking a cab to the train station
If the train station gets closed too, you're pretty much out of luck as there won't be enough taxis to take everybody home.
Have somebody pick you up, but the traffic jams would be yuuuuge
A second metro station appears to have gone too, jeebus
 
8:44 AM
I think I am getting closer --- visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/…
 
 
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10:22 AM
What is 'SQL Database'? — dezso 8 secs ago
 
10:39 AM
@dezso Did you point me to an AX question on purpose? :)
 
@TomV haha, no
 
@dezso Azure SQL Database.
It's copied from the documentation page.
 
 
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12:21 PM
@TomV glad you are alright, where are you?
 
I'm glad to be in our offices, far away from Brussels
 
that's good
 
Worst that can happen here is traffic jams if they close the borders again, but I can live with that
 
A_V
terrorists are having fun in europe aren't they
 
yeah, you can call them politicians as well
 
12:32 PM
@TomV I'm assuming they will
 
A_V
What do you do with an old sqlserver 2000 instance that has very little disk space that always ends up full of logs
no room to backup logs
no room to keep them either
putting it in "simple" is the path I wish I shouldn't have to take :/
 
@A_V Take it behind the garden shed and put it out of it's misery?
 
A_V
I was thinking about deleting system32
that would likely force an environment upgrade
 
@A_V P2V the thing and allocate more diskspace to the VM afterwards?
 
A_V
Yes, that is most definitely the best idea. Not something I can do on short therm though
there is an upgrade/p2v planned for next months
 
12:53 PM
There is a question How can an operation that cannot be made idempotent be made atomic? and they seem to answer it "An operation can be made atomic by recording the system state before the operation so that if it does not complete the system can be returned to its original state."
I wonder, why is it not idempotent?
IMO, if you can record last state and then overwrite your data then why cannot you do the same again?
 
@Lamak They just did
 
guess you'll have to bear some traffic jams
 
1:11 PM
@JamesLupolt that's true but you can probably guess the usual suspects and do a disco plot to get a sense of their shape. Otherwise EMA seems like an easier choice, but won't factor in seasonality. I guess you could just run seasonality calcs without knowing if it's seasonal in nature
 
can I use lookupset with iif nothing ?
I have a column like this,

=LookupSet(Fields!ID.Value
, Fields!CompanyID.Value
, Fields!CompanyID.Value
, "Compaines").Length
now I want it to be empty if result is 0
 
@Mathematics Sure
 
@ValentinTihomirov Idempotence refers to the ability for an operation to be completed multiple times without state changing after the first time the operation is completed. Think about running UPDATE tbl SET col = 1; multiple times. This is clearly not the same as atomic. The statement itself is atomic if it can be either completed successfully, or fully rolled back. In this case, if you ran that against an ACID-compliant system, the operation could be called an atomic, idempotent operation.
an example of a non-idempotent, atomic operation would be UPDATE tbl SET col = col + 1; - clearly this can be made atomic, but it is never going to be considered idempotent.
 
@Mathematics seems like an easy thing to find out
 
@Lamak true, but don't want to duplicate the code, let me try
as I can use iff or IsNothing but then I will have to repeat lookupset function
unless there is a better way I can't think of
maybe I need "or"
 
1:41 PM
ok I added expression to underline style as well, to see it's not 0 then add underline
 
@Mathematics Given all the work you're putting in it, I'm sure the report will be mind blowing!
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@MaxVernon Can you provide atomicity without idempotence?
 
29 mins ago, by Max Vernon
an example of a non-idempotent, atomic operation would be UPDATE tbl SET col = col + 1; - clearly this can be made atomic, but it is never going to be considered idempotent.
 
1:58 PM
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For those that don't get the reference en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manneken_Pis
 
That would be me :)
 
@ValentinTihomirov idempotency is an intrinsic attribute of an operation.
idempotent: Shave
non-idempotent: Drink a bottle of beer.
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I would also do that :)
 
2:17 PM
@TomV off course :)
who is into protocols ?
why there is no NTLM in this chart
 
@TomV retaliation for the capture, or a planned attack?
Sorry that this happened so close. Good to see a post from you though
 
@swasheck My guess is that they were prepared for something in the near future, but they were in a hurry now because the captured guy seems willing to talk.
So they probably wanted to drop their bombs quickly before they were caught
 
@TomV: Seems so. I just got the news. :(
 
@ypercubeᵀᴹ I'm not sure if I shaved I'd remain the same person :D
 
Seems a kind of revenge, a quick response to the capture.
 
2:27 PM
at least my family would not recognize me
 
@TomV well. i'm sorry
 
I'm sure we're not out of the woods yet
 
@TomV in which case it's a good thing - with proper planning the attacks might have been even deadlier
 
@TomV with this round? or ever? if the latter then i agree (unfortunately)
 
@dezso Question is: Would there be a difference if you shaved once or twice?
 
2:33 PM
@swasheck If you see the captured guy was able to walk around his neighbourhood for months, and locals said "ye everybody knew he was there" I'm sure there is a fair number of people still supporting these types of actions
 
@TomV unfortunately, I'd tend to agree with that assumption. Seems it's very easy to be negative these days.
 
@TomV Is this true? That says a lot about the abilities of the police (or the anti-terrorist agencies)
 
I wonder how could that possible to carry such explosives and weapons in such public places
 
@Mathematics because the publisher didn't add it?
 
@Mathematics I believe NTLM is an authentication protocol not a communication protocol
@ypercubeᵀᴹ Yes that's absolutely true, The police were close a couple of times, but if nobody is willing to talk...
 
2:39 PM
@ypercubeᵀᴹ I guess it depends how much time elapses between shaves :)
 
@JSapkota is not like they check every single bag or that they could
 
@PaulWhite I thought someone might comment that. But couldn't come up with a better alternative. Not today.
 
Idempotent is a funny word. I don't find it at all intuitive.
All very shocking about this Brussels business.
 
let me find a chart with authentication protocols then :)
not that shocking tbh, it's happening all around the world these days..
 
@JSapkota If you know that airport, it's only a few steps from the sliding door entrance, and a lot of people carry bags in an airport. I'd wager they have only been inside for a couple of minutes before they hit
if not seconds
 
2:46 PM
@Mathematics it's still shocking to me, no matter how often it might be happening.
 
well it's sad but not shocking as shocking word is used for something that doesn't happens that frequent
 
@Mathematics let's check how often does a bomb goes off in Brussels then?
shocking is a personal perception
 
I don't know how much you follow news, but I read it everyday, there was a threat alert already in place in Europe
 
I follow the news every day. A threat alert is far different than an actual bombing
 
@Mathematics but how about actual bombings?
 
2:50 PM
Ah well an alert is very different from ... oh. What @Lamak said.
 
@Mathematics It's quite shocking if you realize that you could've been a casualty if they did that last week on Monday or Friday (like me), or any of your relatives or coworkers at any given day
 
@TomV Well quite. I know how I'd feel if it had happened in Wellington, for example.
 
@TomV yes, that would put me in a shock too, but that's a different case then for what I said for
anyway, either way it's a sadden event
 
@Mathematics well, @TomV was in the airport last week
 
@Lamak yes I know
 
2:56 PM
seems pedantry has gotten someone into quite the mess here.
 
@swasheck The attempt at backing out wasn't so great though
 
@TomV right. anyway ... how are you feeling through all of this?
 
@swasheck Can't say it's a pleasant experience
 
certainly not
 
It's uncertain, "is everybody accounted for?" "what will still happen?" etc
But once the situation calms and it appears like everybody I know is OK it's much better
 
3:08 PM
i see. i cant, so i wont be able to, imagine the feelings, but i empathize and i'm sorry.
 
@swasheck It's just unreal seeing those pictures, seeing everybody talk about it, (still) not be able to have a cellphone call, receiving loads of mail with either support or asking if everybody is ok
@swasheck Thanks
I don't think many people were productive around here today
 
My condolences to you and your countrymen
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3:28 PM
Lots of F5 keys will need replacing
 
efff me. I guess I need to be more careful with my sarcasm:
^^^ what @a_horse_with_no_name said. Better yet, do it in production then you'll know extremely quickly where the problem code is. — Max Vernon 18 hours ago
That's a good idea.. Have updated the Question — John Thomaz 18 hours ago
 
@TomV I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry about that last comment :)
 
@ypercubeᵀᴹ More bruises?
 
@TomV I used to live near Brussels. The Manneken Pis was rather confusing for a young foreigner.
 
@JamesLupolt the sister is also confusing
 
3:38 PM
@JamesLupolt The story is that he saved the city by peeing on a lit fuse
And for those not wondering what lamak is talking about reisroutes.be/fotos/2531_l.jpg (inline so it doesn't onebox)
 
@MaxVernon I made the mistake not to install the favourite marking addon on my browser at home
checking from this laptop I know I'm not curious about their problems
 
4:12 PM
I'm sure I'm probably wrong about this somehow, somewhere: dba.stackexchange.com/a/133022/10832
 
4:35 PM
@MaxVernon Actually your solution works fine but not the permanent fix. :)
 
@JSapkota yah, I'm beginning to realize it's really not a good approach
 
@MaxVernon I guess(since not enough information) the problem is with nulls in the given column.
 
4:55 PM
@TomV There was a bombing (that kind of failed and killed only the bomber if I remeber correctly) a few years ago in Madrid airport.
I was on a plane that landed less than 1 hour later at the same airport. It was chaos.
(Flight from Athens to Madrid) All our phones were ringing the moment we started them after landing. From frightened relatives who had watched the news on TV - we were happily oblivious till then.
 
a moderator probably needs to merge these two accounts:
 
@MaxVernon The user can request it themselves.
 
5:10 PM
lol. you're too good, Paul.
 
We get it a lot.
 
God bless the internets
 
My new password is level-ROME-students-TALK
 
brb, stealing your timtams order
 
Half-chocolate Girl Guide mini cookies at this time of year. One box left.
 
5:23 PM
space-period-filled-animal I need to write an art critique based on that summary
 
thanks, @ypercubeᵀᴹ - I couldn't have put it better myself. I should have self-immolated.
 
@MaxVernon I'm worried that the OP was happy to accept that. Despite your mention in the answer that it may give them wrong results!
This part:
...
FROM EC_MEDICAL_PREMIUM_OVERRIDE O
    WHERE O.MEDICAL_PLAN_ID = MEDICAL_PLAN_ID
        AND O.COVERAGE_LEVEL_ID = COVERAGE_LEVEL_ID
...
 
@ypercubeᵀᴹ what do you think, would it be better off deleted?
 
@ypercubeᵀᴹ I knew that you would hate rownum once again. :)
 
is actullay equivalent to :
...
FROM EC_MEDICAL_PREMIUM_OVERRIDE O
    WHERE O.MEDICAL_PLAN_ID IS NOT NULL
        AND O.COVERAGE_LEVEL_ID IS NOT NULL
...
 
5:27 PM
right. because the column names aren't qualified... ?
 
@MaxVernon Yeah. And the "closest" scope is the O in the subquery. My guess is that they meant to alias the external table (from the UPDATE) there
 
FFS, save me from people who insist on shooting themselves in the foot
 
@ypercubeᵀᴹ right.
@ypercubeᵀᴹ pretty hard to tell since they still haven't provided the actual query.
 
@MikeFal but then you'd lose your job
 
I've deleted that answer since it's clearly not really going to help the OP
 
5:29 PM
@MaxVernon You could edit to describe that one possible reason for the issue is that.
 
@swasheck Why is btuck wanting to create a columnstore index with greater than 1024 columns?
 
he's probably experimenting
@MikeFal or maybe just trying to learn more about it
 
@swasheck If you need more than 1024 columns, you have other problems.
 
indeed
 
5:55 PM
@MikeFal documentation misunderstanding
@MaxVernon i hate you for that
 
lol
 
 
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7:01 PM
@Erik You can laugh, laughing makes the world more bearable. It was meant as a joke in any case
@ypercubeᵀᴹ Bet you didn't sleep very well that night though
 
Hey @PaulWhite, can you wait until I've finished reading before you move comments into the question, please? It's very confusing.
 
@MichaelGreen Sorry. Let me know when you're done next time :)
Hey @ypercubeᵀᴹ @dezso Do you think this question is clear enough to reopen right now?
 
@PaulWhite Or post a comment "hey Paul I'm reading this" and then flag it as obsolete because you like obsolete flags :)
 
That's the idea LOL ;)
 
> This post is locked for reading
wait_type: LCK_M_MICHAELGREENISREADINGTHIS
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7:07 PM
PrtScr
 
Thanks for all the stars on @billinkc 's message by the way, appreciate that
 
Well let's pin it as well shall we.
 
@TomV I was so in doubt about starring that message...being from @billinkc
 
@Lamak Yeah who would have thought something sensible might come out of him some day
 
Monkeys and typewriters I guess.
 
7:11 PM
@PaulWhite good analogy, we can think about @billinkc as a very large number of monkeys
makes so much sense
 
Could it be he has hired some ghostwriters?
 
@TomV makes sense too....but I like the monkeys theory better
 
Now that he's making sense I bet a team is writing his posts
They took the monkey away from the keyboard
 
it might just be a fluke
 
something something something blind squirrel finds nut something something something
 
7:24 PM
@swasheck In Belgium we have a saying for that
> You never know how a cow catches a hare
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Doesn't make any sense even in Dutch if you ask me
 
yeah
that's ... very european
 
@PaulWhite Yes, kind of. They didn't reply on your question, about the recovery model (full, simple, or bulk logged) but - to me - it seems like they are open to suggestions about how to solve their problem.
 
@ypercubeᵀᴹ Yes I was borderline on reopening too. Not enough for a binding vote, but then I saw two reopens (three now). Ok thanks.
 
Which I can't answer of course - I suppose they want something like simultaneouous backups of more than one db (form the same point in time). No idea if that is feasible or not.
@TomV I can't remember, it was 10 years ago.
 
@ypercubeᵀᴹ There's a few approaches I think. Snapshots, restore to mark. Been a while since I thought about it.
 
7:33 PM
I still remember my landing in Mexico city 20 years ago, that was crazy
We left an intact city for cancun, but we heard some stuff about an earthquake in Mexico city while there, just didn't pay a lot of attention
When we landed we could see an absolute ruin through the airplane window
'85
I'll never forget that image, approaching for landing between a pile of bricks
 
@TomV I didn't have much access to media, so it didn't affect me much. I was a tourist, on vacation for only 5 days. I'm sure it would be much more effective if it had happened on my return, in the Athens airport.
 
man this guy is hard to please.
no wonder he uses different names on different sites.
 
@ypercubeᵀᴹ Maybe, part of the impact was probably due to the fact that I was there for my uncle's wedding, and the hotel where the party was served as a field hospital so you had severed bodies in the lobby
 
@TomV well, that'll make an impression.
 
A_V
So I've got this server, an old windows server 2000 running a sqlserver2000 database
it fills it's drives everyday
 
7:40 PM
We know :)
 
A_V
if I put it in simple recovery, what else might happen than losing a day of data
in case of a crash ?
The log's use is to make a point-in-time recovery right ?
 
@A_V other than the fact that nobody's going to really be able to support you?
 
A_V
A full backup of the database itself
will recover the database to the time it was took without any need for tlogs anyways
and I take one daily
 
Since you're not taking log backups anyway because of the disk space issues, in case of hardware failure you will have to revert to the daily backup anyway. The only case the log will help you is in case of user error where you can take a tail backup and recover to a point in time (given enough space for a tail backup)
You're pretty much knee deep in shit creek anyway
 
@TomV which apparently there isn't room for.
 
7:45 PM
@A_V Assuming the backup is valid and restorable, yes.
The worst time to test your backup is when you need it.
 
@PaulWhite AMEN to that!
 
On 15 yr old software and likely on 10+ year old hardware, don't plan for disaster any more, pray for non-disaster instead. every night
 
A_V
That's well said indeed
 
@A_V - this is probably a moot point, but why don't you get a bigger disk?
 
A_V
7:47 PM
It's a 20 years old SAN
 
Licencing issue IIRC. Oh, maybe that was someone else.
 
A_V
the discs are discontinued
 
@MaxVernon size doesnt matter
 
A_V
you might be able to find some on ebay for 10 000% inflated prices due to rarity
 
@A_V What happens when a disk dies now?
 
A_V
7:48 PM
I lose a hair
 
If management doesn't care about the thing enough to finally upgrade it or P2V it, I don't think they care about the database, so it shouldn't be too bad if you lose the entire database
 
A_V
seriously, I have no idea but that's none of a my business
 
@PaulWhite We don't need backups, we have RAID
 
@TomV Uh huh.
 
A_V
7:49 PM
the backups are taken on tape and vault-stored for 10 years so I have plenty of data to play with
 
I hate to say this
 
A_V
there's also OS snapshots
backup party
 
@A_V upgrade to access?
 
@TomV that's an oxymoron. but it might work in this case.
 
@A_V Well if simple recovery meets the business need, that's fine.
 
7:50 PM
@TomV sick burn, bro
@PaulWhite assuming they're valid, natch
 
5 mins ago, by Paul White
@A_V Assuming the backup is valid and restorable, yes.
 
31 secs ago, by Paul White
5 mins ago, by Paul White
@A_V Assuming the backup is valid and restorable, yes.
 
A_V
Ahahaha access would likely fit their need that's funny to think of
 
@swasheck blows smoke off gun
 
A_V
Hmmm, so I must dry run a backup restore of that old ass database to make sure then.
 
7:52 PM
point taken
@A_V you should move to the cloud. that normally makes management types all tingly in their drawers
 
@swasheck iLOLd
 
@A_V If you want to keep your hair, yes.
DBCC CHECKDB is popular as well, among db-types.
 
@TomV it's like you're my brother from another mother
 
@A_V Mind you your hair is very valuable, You might not realize it when you're still young, but you will value each and every one of them when older. Also: wear sunscreen
 
AND STAY OFF MY LAWN!!!!!
 
7:54 PM
@swasheck I seem to be on a roast-roll lately, not sure where the surge of sarcasm comes from
 
@TomV Isn't that a song?
 
@TomV channeling your inner Trump?
 
@PaulWhite The first part isn't (even though hair is mentioned) the wear sunscreen is a (good IMO) song yes
in fact I'll put the song on now
I bet Trump woke up this morning, heard the news and said "today will be a good day", not rejoicing about that though
 
@TomV It was the sunscreen bit that reminded me. Which song is it?
 
Everybody's free (to wear sunscreen)
 
7:57 PM
@TomV he's unable to let this opportunity go
 
@TomV Ah! Thanks.
 
Baz luhmann or something
 
Yes.
 
I like that, the lyrics are calming in a way
 
@Lamak in fairness, none of them are
 
8:00 PM
but I'm not fair
 
neither is life
 
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Q: Database in simple recovery to save space

A_VThis old sqlserver 2000 instance has a 14Gb disc for data and a 30Gb disc for backups. Even though it is old, it still has tons of users doing transactions so the logfile of the only database that is on this server fills the data drive everyday. I figured I would put it in simple recovery and f...

 
One of the most important lessons from that song "There is no champagne in the champagne room"
 
@swasheck soo...I am life?, life is me?
 
mars. bringer of war.
 
8:17 PM
Police raid in a Brussels neighbourhood so far paid off, another nail bomb and chemicals found along with an IS flag, who knows what's still out there
 
@TomV wow
 
some people thing i work at an investment services company. that's false. i'm actually employed by a failing, idiot rehab center
@TomV interesting.
 
@swasheck Yeah, I can't wait to see what tomorrow brings!
(just trolling to make you feel bad)
 
who knows. tomorrow's problems are tomorrow. today still has plenty of its own.
 
@TomV well, tomorrow we are not allowed to be shocked though
 
8:30 PM
@Lamak I don't even expect you to pretend
The SSRS dude won't be shocked, that's for sure :)
 
@TomV that's what I was talking about
 
I know
"Dude, that happens all the time"
 
@TomV I agree laughing is much better than crying.... I remember when I was doing a bicycle tour through Belgium, talking to a guy about how the country wanted to break into two parts even though they were so united fighting the Nazis. Maybe a more united Belgium will be the silver lining in this horribleness.
 
@TomV yeah, how can anyone be shocked?
 
@Erik You don't want to discuss that with me :)
There are many many aspects to all of that
 
8:36 PM
@TomV lol I guess I touched a nerve :)
 
@Erik "lol" isnt really appropriate at this moment, IMO.
 
@Erik I'm not on either side of the fence, but the whole thing is fairly complicated. I'm perfectly comfortable explaining but I don't think we should flood the heap with it
 
@TomV nah that's ok. I agree that we shouldn't flood the heap. I'll keep in mind that it is a sensitive issue for the future too.
 
@Erik it's not a sensitive issue to me by any means
Mar 1 at 20:57, by Tom V
That just strikes a chord with me, geopolitics and macroeconomics are my second hobby
 
@TomV You're a much more impressive guy than me if those are your second hobbies.
 
8:44 PM
It's just a thing that most of the supporters on either side don't understand because history is boring, and I am convinced it's an absolute non-issue but easily abused by certain politicians to explain their own failure. That's part of what happens in BXL now, their are I don't know 20 mayors and equally as much police forces, but none of them want to give up political powers and sell it to the voters as "hey but the other guys will get more power over us"
and so ends the spamming of the heap
 
They wouldn't be politicians if they actually accomplished anything
 
@Erik There have been some, most die early
 
Yeah there is nothing scarier to the incompetent than the competent.
 
@swasheck I don't mind if you don't, it's not as if anybody stopped joking after 9/11 or paris or lockerbee
 
@TomV yeah. day-of and stuff ... anyway.
 
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