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j0h

2:00 PM

... but i can see how to make it work now

Terrance

@Oli I disabled the Privoxy, but now I need a VTC duplicate to test. =)

Zacharee1

@Terrance should I just post one? :p

Terrance

@Zacharee1 If you so desire.

Zacharee1

you could also just open the dupe section on any question and see if it loads in

Terrance

@Zacharee1 Let me try that.

@Zacharee1 Good thinking. I must still be tired because I know of that area, just wasn't thinking about it. =)

Oli

2:04 PM

@Terrance Pick any, just don't close it all the way :)

kos

@ParanoidPanda That hamster had no idea.

Terrance

@Oli It works. It was Privoxy causing the problem.

Rinzwind

@ParanoidPanda that's not as good as the one I found y-day ( nbcnews.com/id/8305836/#.UVt__leFWMV ) I trump you with 3 lions and a girl :+

Terrance

@ParanoidPanda Maybe that snake has the crazy cat lady disease now. ;)

Rinzwind

editted ^^ :D

Terrance

2:07 PM

Gotta run, but I will be back later. Have fun all! :D

Rinzwind

name change! Terrunce :=)

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind what?

Rinzwind

when you stop running you can be @terrance again

Zacharee1

-_-

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 pay attention to his name having "ran" in it and he going for a run :=D

Zacharee1

2:09 PM

_----_

Rinzwind

you gotta stay on your toes when I am around :D

:I

Zap

paZ

2:28 PM

4 answers today so far :D

Inactive today

user139252

Why am I awake?

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne It's 7:30?

user139252

Doesn't feel like it

Zacharee1

Does it feel like 10:30? :)

Byte Commander

It's 15:33 here and still feels like 3:33 :P

Zacharee1

2:33 PM

@ByteCommander ._.

That was bad

åéîøü

yay

The custom keyboard layout works on Windows 7 too

Byte Commander

64 bytes from 192.168.231.72: icmp_seq=55 ttl=64 time=16803 ms

O.O

Zacharee1

A 17 second ping?

Byte Commander

Indeed. On a local network.

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander sounds like fun

Byte Commander

The target is a small server running a few VMs. Looks like it's horribly overloaded :-/

Zacharee1

2:38 PM

You think so? :p

Byte Commander

Yesh... Damn OSX.

It worked before someone booted that OSX VM.

Zacharee1

OS X is worse than Windows

Even if it's based on UNIX

Byte Commander

Hard-rebooting the server now :P

Zacharee1

gl hf

Byte Commander

What the hell!!?? stackoverflow.com/users/6077687

Zacharee1

2:43 PM

OK then

How'd you find that?

Rinzwind

@ByteCommander what's wrong with that? and yes I know what happend in the past, It could still be his actual surname.

user136984

VTC this Minty question as off-topic.

Rinzwind

and @ByteCommander see vice.com/read/meet-the-hitlers-matt-ogens-interview-183 :D

user136984

@ByteCommander: I don't remember what the policy on names said that I read... Not sure if there even is one, but I think that there must be something not allowing names like that...

user136984

The system should really detect them, but maybe there are too many possibilities...

Zacharee1

2:54 PM

@Rinzwind I really want to tell the MC Forge asker that they probably need JDK to run it, but I don't want to encourage their asking here.

cl-netbox

@ParanoidPanda : I missed the picture again ... was AFK ... :)

Zacharee1

The iguana is back!

@Serg lol askubuntu.com/questions/747123/command-tr-is-a-tricky-one

4 rep away from 4k

Debian/OT, or is it Ubuntu? askubuntu.com/questions/747137/…

Terrance

@Rinzwind OK, that was funny! I almost shot milk out my nose when I read that. Simple jokes make me laugh for some reason. =)

Byte Commander

3:10 PM

@Rinzwind Actually he catched my attention because he posted a spam answer consisting of the string ("heil" + [his user name]) repeated a few dozen times. So it's clearly not just a coincidence! :P

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 Yeah. I tend to put things like that in command but not actually spitting it out as such ;)

@Terrance now the question is: was it hemp milk?

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander O_o

Byte Commander

Yes.

@Zacharee1 I vote as OT.

Zacharee1

OK

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 and then you get the occasional comment like this askubuntu.com/questions/746926/…

Seth

3:15 PM

who keeps upvoting posts like that?!

Serg

My google looks weird

Zacharee1

@Seth Not me... this time

:p

Serg

Rinzwind

@Seth which one? :D be specific! :+

Zacharee1

> Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what you're asking. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question.

Seth

3:16 PM

@Rinzwind you the one just posted in the message before?

Serg

@Zacharee1 <.< Really ? that message for me, a 28 k user ?

Zacharee1

:)

Terrance

@Rinzwind Could be! ;) If it is, I don't think I'm sharing. :P

Zacharee1

Dupe I bet: askubuntu.com/questions/747139/…

Rinzwind

@Seth Oh it was always on 0 for me. did not see it got an upvote D:

There I made it -1 >:D

Zacharee1

3:27 PM

@Rinzwind you evil Nederlandse you :p

Terrance

@Serg I read that as you're using a 28.8K modem, not that you're a 28K user. Silly me! :P

Zacharee1

Wouldn't using Gparted here work, or do I just know nothing about RAID? askubuntu.com/questions/747140/extend-primary-partition

@ByteCommander they deleted their comment

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 Who? Where?

And I don't know enough about RAIDs either...

Serg

@Terrance i've never used any modems so . . . that also blew over my head :)

Terrance

@Serg OK, that dates me then. ;) My first modem was a SmartData 14.4K serial external.

Zacharee1

3:31 PM

@ByteCommander The Debian mirror thing\

Byte Commander

@Serg Lucky you! My first year(s) on the internet happened with a 56k modem. Horrible.

Terrance

Remember ATDT5551212 > COM1 to dial BBS sites?

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander My friends had dialup until about 3 years ago. They still only have 3mbps DSL

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 I haven't seen any comment there except my own.

Zacharee1

Oh, oops

lol

Wrong question

Serg

3:32 PM

I never had a personal computer . . . .I got my first one when i was about 17 - 18 , in 2007-8 - ish

Seth

+1 comments on github are super annoying

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 yeah commenting it is also so on Ubuntu ... doubt he actually tried it :+

jokerdino

@Seth +1

2

Rinzwind

@Serg my 1st one was paid by my employer in 1992. I negotiated one for signing my contract

Serg

XD @jokerdino perfect timing , i was just about to do that

Seth

3:33 PM

@jokerdino >.>

Rinzwind

It was a 486 D:

jokerdino

@Serg +1's are my specialty.

Terrance

@Rinzwind SX or DX?

Serg

@jokerdino +1 for having such an awesome specialty

Zacharee1

stahp

Byte Commander

3:34 PM

@Rinzwind Ha! I have an i386 DX in my basement! :D

It actually still runs, I just checked a few weeks ago.

Zacharee1

o_O

Byte Commander

Win 3.11 works like a charm on that good old boy

Zacharee1

lol

Get it on the WiFi, I dare you

Terrance

WFW FTW!

Serg

@Zacharee1 $ echo stahp | tr 'ahp' 'op '
stop

Zacharee1

3:36 PM

nuu wai

Terrance

lol

Zacharee1

pls

Rinzwind

@ByteCommander when we got a new server here I got the old one.

A wyse6000 with a lock at the back with slots for 100 VGA terminals :D

Serg

@Zacharee1 pls ? you're welcome :)

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind 100??

@Serg shut

Rinzwind

3:38 PM

yes 100 D: got me a hernia from carrying it :X

Serg

/bin/Serg: shut: not found

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind wysecarts.com/Hand-Trucks/aluminum-handtruck

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 Sorry, impossible. It only has a card that connects with coax cables :-/

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander do they even make 3.11 compatible WiFi cards?

@ByteCommander connect it to a BNC WiFi card then :)

Byte Commander

A what?

Zacharee1

3:40 PM

@ByteCommander A non-existent WiFi card using an outdated technology, duhh

BNC connector

The BNC (Bayonet Neill–Concelman) connector is a miniature quick connect/disconnect radio frequency connector used for coaxial cable. It features two bayonet lugs on the female connector; mating is fully achieved with a quarter turn of the coupling nut. BNC connectors are used with miniature-to-subminiature coaxial cable in radio, television, and other radio-frequency electronic equipment, test instruments, and video signals. The BNC was commonly used with 10BASE2 computer networks. BNC connectors are made to match the characteristic impedance of cable at either 50 ohms or 75 ohms. They are usually...

Serg

@Seth what can we do about a link - only answer that is accepted ?

0

A: How to run a script at logout

The solution here worked but the config file was not located in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf but in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-unity-greeter.conf.

Byte Commander

Aha... ;)

Seth

nothing

unless the link is broken

or you could edit it.

Zacharee1

@Seth tell OP that it shouldn't be like that

@Seth Hang on, that link is to @Serg's answer right above

Terrance

@Serg LOL, too funny that he links to your answer on the same page.

Serg

3:43 PM

wat ?

Rinzwind

funny

Zacharee1

Instead of a comment, OP accepted their correction to Serg's answer

Rinzwind

@Serg he is linking to your answer in the same topic

Zacharee1

I'm pretty sure that falls under NaA

Rinzwind

and then accepted his answer D:

Zacharee1

3:43 PM

Because it is a correction or thanks answer

Serg

facepalm that's just . . .

Rinzwind

@Serg you should so copy his comment over into your question

Byte Commander

OP and author of that answer are the same person.

Terrance

@Rinzwind LOL I agree! :P

abhishek_naik

ROFL :D

Zacharee1

3:44 PM

That answer should be deleted

Rinzwind

yes 10 upvotes on the passwd answer \o/

90 more for 100 :+

Zacharee1

> “This does not provide an answer to the question. Once you have sufficient reputation you will be able to comment on any post; instead, provide answers that don't require clarification from the asker.”

@Rinzwind so close

Serg

@Rinzwind which answer ? link plz

Rinzwind

@Serg askubuntu.com/questions/746971/… I even added an image (but dont know who told me cuz the comment is gone)

Serg

@Rinzwind saw the comment. Considering the user asked this in 2015 i doubt they will come back.

There really should be something mods can do about accepted answers

Zacharee1

3:51 PM

I still think that answer needs to be deleted

Seth

Didn't notice it was a link to an AU post. Perhaps you should flag it and explain? ;)

Oli

@Rinzwind Rmano

Zacharee1

@Seth I explained, but what should it be flagged as?

Seth

other..

Zacharee1

OK

Answers don't have Other

Seth

3:56 PM

yes they do

Rinzwind

@Oli thanks D:

jokerdino

@Zacharee1 in need of mod attention

Zacharee1

@jokerdino OK

jokerdino

I can flag it too. Yay

Rinzwind

lol

dont confuse Serg :P

Zacharee1

3:57 PM

flaggéd

jokerdino

with a é?

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind huh?

@jokerdino it means you pronounce the ed as an extra syllable: flagg-ed

kos

Hey, we got a new mod: stackexchange.com/about/moderators

jokerdino

:)

someone who forgot to switch their CM mode.

Rinzwind

who is Kasra Rahjerdi :X

Zacharee1

3:59 PM

> Hi!

I work at Stack Exchange as the lead for the Mobile team, which currently consists of Stack Exchange for Android and iOS.

jokerdino

new dev I think

Seth

He's the Android app developer.

Rinzwind

aha

Seth

It's a bug that he is showing up as a mod.

jokerdino

Seth knows everything.

Rinzwind

4:00 PM

so Kos lied >:-D

Seth

no, the page he was reading lied ;)

Zacharee1

Can we spam him and tell him to add profile editing and user viewing on the app? :p

@Seth how could it?!

Rinzwind

you can. I wont >:-D

jokerdino

Zacharee1 timed out for 10 days.

Seth

@Zacharee1 because of the aforementioned bug ;)

Rinzwind

4:01 PM

bbl! operation dustcloud has started!

Zacharee1

@Seth lots of bugs

@jokerdino :O

Seth

@Zacharee1 Yes. It's called software.

2

Zacharee1

The X-Files hid a Wilhelm scream

jokerdino

15

Q: Why is an SE employee suddenly a per site moderator?

I just noticed that (suddenly) an SE employee (Kasra Rahjerdi) shows up as a per site moderator on Math Educators see http://matheducators.stackexchange.com/users?tab=moderators While I would not be opposed if he was actually appointed as a mod on the site, it seems more like a bug to me (no ap...

Kos read meta.SE.

Zacharee1

They fired someone and announced it on Meta before telling him?

jokerdino

4:03 PM

it's a joke.

Zacharee1

Good :I

kos

I just wanted to spread confusion.

jokerdino

kos timed out for 10 minutes.

Zacharee1

TIL Ctrl+F4 closes Chrome tabs

@jokerdino Are you fake-suspending us?

kos

Lol.

Zacharee1

4:05 PM

Abuse of power! We must rise up against the government! Total Anarchy! ahroeveoiepfv

This SSD is so much faster

My boot time has gone from at least 5 minutes to about 1

that was weird

I installed Dropbox, and when it finished, the startup sound for Windows played

Serg

4:25 PM

@Zacharee1 don't forget to install Cygwin

Zacharee1

I don't need bash

Serg

I feel uneasy if i don't have terminal window open, so even with Windows, i gotta have terminal

Zacharee1

:p

askubuntu.com/questions/747161/… o_O

Zacharee1

4:44 PM

Anyone out there?

No

Here neither

sigh

5:00 PM

Are SSDs more power-efficient than HDDs?

Unclear, EOL: askubuntu.com/questions/747172/a-java-related-error

CentOS: askubuntu.com/questions/747174/…

Serg

I wanna find a place where i can just curl into a ball and either sleep of spend some time online.

Problem is, i also have to finish my hashmap assignment

Zacharee1

@Serg ugh

Serg

Yay found a free table

Zacharee1

5:16 PM

A data table or an actual table?

Serg

5:29 PM

an actual table . . . with a comfy chair

i just wanna pass out

Zacharee1

5:44 PM

@Serg do it then

Unclear: askubuntu.com/questions/747182/…

The X-Files just had a really creative way of bleeping out a curse word

It was over the phone, and one of the characters said "no sh*t, Sherlock," but the line cut out over the curse

static

Serg

@Zacharee1 the most creative way to "conceal " the curse words was in South Park's Wendy's Song . . . look it

Zacharee1

South Park doesn't censor

Serg

Well they sort of tried in that song

sort of

Zacharee1

:p

Oli

@Serg You don't eat or sleep or mow the lawn, you just .... your uncle all day long.

They deserved an oscar for that line.

Zacharee1

5:59 PM

@Oli why?

They did it again!!

same episode

@Zacharee1 test?

nope

@Zacharee1 Have to use direct replies :/

@Zacharee1 This is fun

Serg

@Oli South Park in general deserves an whole bunch of awards

Zacharee1

Don't they have them?

Serg

No idea

but they do deserve em :p

Zacharee1

15 wins, 53 nominations

imdb.com/title/tt0121955/awards

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Listing available functions

I have a function defined on my .bashrc that allows me to mkdir and cd into a folder, which I call mkcd. I could write the same thing using an alias, or as a script. For aliases and scripts, I can find where they are with alias and which, so, is it possible to list all available functions? With...

linux bash ubuntu function

user139252

6:11 PM

Now I get to sift through 5 GB of Gameboy/Gameboy Color games to figure out which ones I want

user139252

@Serg South Park is foul.

Zacharee1

^

Serg

@TheBrownOne Politics and economics are far more foul things than a cartoon with some curse words . A far more foul thing is how students after college end up with thousands in student loan debt, without any certainty whether or not they will be hired. A far more foul thing is tons of homeless people out there. A far more foul thing tons of people having no access to clear water/food , while tons of it being wasted elsewhere. Please . . .

Zacharee1

wat: askubuntu.com/review/low-quality-posts/539210

@Serg Yes, but we can start avoiding with South Park :p

user139252

@Serg Yes, those things are also bad. But they don't come up in chat :P

Zacharee1

6:19 PM

screams internally

askubuntu.com/review/low-quality-posts/538104

Serg

@Zacharee1 And what does avoiding it do ?

Zacharee1

@Serg nothing, just like watching South Park does

user139252

Instead of fighting, let's talk about something else

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne I'm being annoying, not fighting

:)

Serg

I am not even fighting \ (-_-) / that was just a minute of grumpiness

Zacharee1

6:22 PM

@Serg You were fighting

Serg

@Zacharee1 aren't you always being annoying ? XD ( Kidding of course )

Zacharee1

>:)

@Serg gasp

user139252

Did you guys see my Python script for encrypting/decrypting based on a Vigenere Cipher?

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne I heard about it

Serg

I am just constantly . . . how should i say this . . . perplexed by society. People are willing to spend money, time, and attention on such things as rumours and what's Nicki Minaj's new outfit or song, or what who where said . . . meanwhile , there's whole lot of things that should be addressed in the world

Zacharee1

6:25 PM

I didn't actually see a product

@Serg Nikki Minaj gets new butts :P

Serg

@Zacharee1 Anaconda 2 confirmed ?

Zacharee1

NO PLEASE NO (this is justified Oli)

Serg

mildly amused

Zacharee1

sigh

user139252

@Zacharee1 You can see it in action here

Zacharee1

6:30 PM

Very nice. It's so encrypted I get a 404 error!

2

user139252

I forgot the extension

Zacharee1

:p

user139252

Click again

Zacharee1

I got it

user139252

This is the source.

user139252

6:31 PM

I'm about to push it to GitHub

Zacharee1

KZCHD, keyword word

You need compatibility for spaces

user139252

I can add it in, but that takes away from the original feel of it :P

Zacharee1

The original has no spaces?

@TheBrownOne o_O

user139252

Yeah, it was originally used without spaces

user139252

Spaces can help with cracking it

Zacharee1

6:35 PM

really?

user139252

You can use common words of a given length to figure out parts of a key

Zacharee1

ah

user139252

For example, if you see something like "HGT VFT UH YTTF", you can assume it's "THE ___ IS ____"

user139252

From that, you can use the square to piece together a possible key

Zacharee1

hmm

Some people have a ot of patience

user139252

6:40 PM

It's what Alan Turing is famous for.

user139252

The Enigma Machine was basically a Vigenere cipher with a new key every morning. He built a machine to intercept the messages, test them against possible keys, and if it found a validly decrypted message, it knew the key for that day. Therefore, it was able to easily decrypt every message sent that day, including the one sent at night saying "Tomorrow's key is this"

user139252

That's how we won the war.

Serg

Well, I cannot find any command-line questions to answer right now . . . I guess I'll go get coffee or something . . . Low on energy today . . . probably ready for spring break

Serg

7:04 PM

Managed to squeeze out one more command-line answer \ ^0^ /

user136984

Anyone know anything on this matter?

user136984

0

Q: How to prevent scripts hijacking your session's cached sudo ability?

If I run a sudo command it will ask me for a password, however in that Terminal session for the next few minutes it will allow me to run sudo commands without asking me for a password as it will cache that I am allowed. This is good for convenience, and I find it rather convenient so I don't wan...

scripts password sudo security

Serg

7:19 PM

@ParanoidPanda your question sure are lengthy . . .

kos

@ParanoidPanda Doubtfully... And obviously I guess changing the script to prevent this is not an option per the scope of the whole thing

user136984

@kos: No, not really, is there not a way just to exclude scripts from that sort of thing in some way? Or to run scripts through a different user but easily and automatically?

Serg

@ParanoidPanda you can exclude commands in /etc/sudoers . . . But you cannot exclude specific scripts . . . at least i don't think you can, since scripts are just collection of commands . . .

0

A: How to prevent scripts hijacking your session's cached sudo ability?

You can run sudo -k before you run your script. It will clear the cached credentials and the next sudo will ask again for your password. Alternatively, do your sudo-ing in a different terminal - the credentials are not shared between terminals.

@Seth ^ copied my comment

Well . . almost

kos

@ParanoidPanda Nothing that occurs to me, there's no difference between a script or an executable for what sudo is concerned

user136984

@Serg: Can't it detect specifically when a user executes a command a more manual way? Or is there a way of making the two ways (manual execution and through a command) different in some way?

user136984

7:27 PM

@kos: Could you make it different though by adding something?

user136984

Adding another layer of checking or something which is run before sudo via the use of an alias or something...

Serg

@ParanoidPanda well, one could write a function . . . hold on , i will post something , let me know if that works for ya

kos

@ParanoidPanda Technically file the_thing_to_run, but to understand what the_thing_to_run is you would have to parse the command pretty much the same way Bash does it. How do you easily know what's the command in <<<foo >bar $(echo command1) <(command2 | command3)?

Seth

@Serg then why did you not post an answer?

user136984

@kos: Really anything though that I didn't run with sudo shouldn't be able to run things with sudo. Including commands. If they are only hijacking the cached ability that is...

user136984

7:34 PM

@kos @Serg: I've updated my question to include that as a specification because it's basically the same...

Serg

@Seth because i have no clue what panda wants . . . it takes time to figure out in the comments

kos

@ParanoidPanda Best I can think of is prompting for a confirmation each time a sudo command is about to be run.

Seth

@Serg then I don't see anything wrong.

Serg

@Seth hmm . . .probably . . .Nevermind . . .i'm overreacting

@ParanoidPanda how's a function like this ?

$ sudo_check testdir/myscript.sh
Its a script, resetting sudo timestamp

@ParanoidPanda still alive ?

user136984

@Serg: Yep, almost dead, but not quite there yet! ;D

Zacharee1

7:43 PM

As soon as I leave it's Talk City :p

user136984

@Serg: Thinking about it though, it should basically just not allow anything to run sudo unless I've run it with sudo, so including commands too then...

user136984

Unless this is not possible?

Zacharee1

Mint: askubuntu.com/questions/747217/…

Serg

@ParanoidPanda What I do is have my sudo have no cache time at all, i am prompted password for every command, and if want something extended, there's always sudo -i for root login

user136984

@Serg: Yeah, I've probably going to completely turn it off, but just looking for other options first...

user136984

7:48 PM

@Serg: Could I get it to check if I had actually executed that command and if it's not be to not allowing without prompting me?

user136984

Because for instance there is a log of Terminal commands, and commands in a script don't go into there so it must be able to tell to some extent...

Serg

@ParanoidPanda wait what ?

i'm having hard time understanding the last two comments, Panda . . .

gtg

will be back later

user136984

Ok

user136984

@Serg: Well, could I make it so that when I execute a command and it starts running it it logs that to a file (like is done with all Terminal commands though maybe a bit too late for this - with the history command) and then when sudo is run it checks if I executed that command in Terminal and if not then it is assumed that it's not by me so it prompts me for a password?

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