Root Access

Hennes

9:06 AM

5) taxes

Psycogeek

3) sell it

Burgi

isn't that what synergise means? ;)

Psycogeek

synergise means it is a pyramid scheme

Burgi

lol

Psycogeek

its true see dictionary
synergy (sîn´er-jê) noun
plural synergies
1. The interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual effects.
2. Cooperative interaction among groups, especially among the acquired subsidiaries or merged parts of a corporation, that creates an enhanced combined effect.

AKA something for nothing

Luckily most people running pyramid schemes have not yet realised the statement IDs it as a pyramid scheme, soo us knowing folks just Run when they use that word.

Hennes

9:20 AM

0

Q: How often should I defragment drives?

You can schedule Disk Defragmenter on Windows 7 to defragment disks daily. When it is useful?

Defrag spam to own blog ?

DavidPostill

@Hennes Yep. Flagging as spam.

too late :/

Journeyman Geek

you could probably flag his question

Burgi

o.O

Journeyman Geek

-5

Q: Improve Hard disk Performance

Do you know how to defragment you hard disk on the computer. just read this article here

operating-systems desktop-computer defragment

Burgi

i think you are seeing something that us proles cannot see...

DavidPostill

9:24 AM

@JourneymanGeek Answer was spam. Question is old so probably not spam seed

Journeyman Geek

Naw, the other question, the one I just spam flagged and nuked....

DavidPostill

We can expect more. He has a bunch of articles on his blog that are ripe for promoting in spam answers.

Burgi

what user?

DavidPostill

This suspended one superuser.com/users/568546/madhavb

Burgi

ah

well i discovered last night that until you hit 1k rep your links have no-follow on

Journeyman Geek

9:28 AM

sigh It makes me sad that people think this is fine.

Yup

And there's very few situations where linking back to a personal blog is essential for an answer

I've vaguely done it on HR.se

5

A: Laptop for simple tasks and remote work

There's chromebook class "windows for bing" boxen that fit most of your needs. I'm pretty happy with my HP stream 11 and there's a new, lighter version coming out soon. Lenovo has a similar system and I seem to remember dell did (tho the smallest screen I can find is 15 inches) and there may be o...

looooong writeup.TINY link to my review of it at the end

Burgi

GAH! /index.php/ !

Journeyman Geek

wha?

Burgi

the old installations of wordpress didn't prettify the urls properly and added /index.php/ in every url

Journeyman Geek

ahh

its an older install, which I've kept up to date

If I didn't have a backlog of stuff I wanted to write about I might look at prettifying it and/or moving to something not wordpress

Burgi

my first job at an SEO company was to go through 250 WP sites and fix the redirects to remove the /index.php/

Journeyman Geek

9:35 AM

Well

I don't bother about SEO

Burgi

exactly

Journeyman Geek

I write, cause I want to

and every so often someone goes "Hey, that was helpful <3"

Burgi

the site functions and gets indexed regardless

Journeyman Geek

yup

Burgi

my boss thought he knew seo but didn't

Journeyman Geek

9:37 AM

quite honestly, its more important that I find stuff when I need it ;p

Burgi

so when i see index.php in a WP link i break out in a cold sweat

Journeyman Geek

that blog has documentation of most of the tiny annoying fixes on my ttrss install for example (and instructions on how to do it)

(like how to mod the dark theme so its not monochrome)

Burgi

my blog has been in development for about 6 years

i just lack the time outside of work to work on it

suddenly almost everything else in the world is waaaaaay more important

Journeyman Geek

;p

I should have time, I guess

tho now I'm sitting in my gran's house on a sorta vacation. Ploughed through both of three body problem novels that have been translated so far, and 3 of the 5 MHI novels (which I reread cause they're kinda fun)

Burgi

Mitsubishi Heavy Industries?

Journeyman Geek

9:43 AM

Monster Hunter International

qasdfdsaq

Anoooos

Journeyman Geek

bunch of pulpy novels about a 'combat accountant' working for a company who hunt down monsters.

Burgi

ah cool

i'm reading the terrible first book in the saga of the seven suns

Journeyman Geek

(I have a lot of ebooks, Mostly from baen)

ahh KJA

Burgi

awful pacing, too many 1D characters, incoherent story

Hennes

9:46 AM

I still need to read the last book from that (in dead tree format)

Burgi

not going to bother with the rest of the series

i'm not a fan of ebooks

prefer the dead tree version

i like to see physical books as a form of carbon capture

@Hennes do they get better?

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi @Hennes I prefer dead trees but in this case ebooks are easier to carry around.

Hennes

0

Q: How often should I defragment drives?

You can schedule Disk Defragmenter on Windows 7 to defragment disks daily. When it is useful?

windows-7 defragment

Another one

Journeyman Geek

fixed formatting, asked citations, protected questions

@Burgi I use a kindle paperwhite to read on trips and on buses (which is actually pretty handy)

Tho, its nice that I can increase print size slightly

(Makes it easier to read. My eyesight is about as good as the average ~~terrier~~ geek, so I need glasses, but larger fonts are typically more dyslexic friendly)

So for me its hardcovers (<3 but pricy + bulky :( ), > softcovers > kindle > nice screens > normal screens

(unrelatedly, stuff to look forward to when I get home. Roomie, nice screens, box of SE swag from that competition on MSE...)

Burgi

10:10 AM

My eyesight is about as good as the average terrier - you see smells?

;)

Psycogeek

books should be read carefully . . . by scriptwriters to turn them into movies :-)

qasdfdsaq

Journeyman Geek

10:28 AM

@Burgi Short sighted ;p

Hennes

10:43 AM

smiles at plain unadorned standalone normal unviolated Putty.

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Hennes

Evil MAC-gic

-2

Q: Dark Magic Spells For Power

How to use dark magic spells fo power? Dark magic spells of power is a great way that will help you to get power for you. If you want to get power and want to achieve everything, then it will be the best way for you to get that thing in your life with the help of this way of the dark magic spells.

mac

Journeyman Geek

Your magic is weak compared to the awesome power of the Modhammer

Burgi

flag to migrate to magic.SE.... ;)

qasdfdsaq

11:14 AM

Urgh why is the questions list full of 2+ year old Nvidia questions all of a sudden

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq Tag edits

qasdfdsaq

I need to figure out a way to hide tag edits -_- Getting tired of 12 out of 14 questions I open being >2 years old and no longer relevant, after I spend ages reading them

I would write a tampermonkey script to auto-close the window if it is a >2 year old question but thanks to hackers I can't close tabs from scripts. Urgh

Journeyman Geek

superuser.com/questions?sort=newest

qasdfdsaq

@JourneymanGeek Yeah but a) I have to keep an extra shortcut to get to that page and b) It's a lot less space efficient (far more scrolling on this annoying work mous ethat doesn't scroll well)

Journeyman Geek

that's the closest thing I can think of

yeah

tag edits are one of those things we don't do well

or anything that needs to be edited in bulk I guess

tereško

11:42 AM

In Europe, You’ll Need a VPN to See Real Google Search Results .. archive link because of bitching about adblockers

Burgi

wow... that is a hideous way to deal with adblock

qasdfdsaq

Burgi

that is a bastardised version

qasdfdsaq

@Burgi Yep

Most sites that do that I just block the bitching about adblock with adblock, but in this case it's not working, I suspect I need to block a script somewhere.

Burgi

didn't work

Journeyman Geek

12:00 PM

Uploading this for an answer on my sock, Being a low rep user sucks :)

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek What is it?

Burgi

that looks like the car that crossed the bearing straits

this script has the anti adblock: wired.com/assets/…

anyway lunch

Journeyman Geek

unusuallocomotion.com/pages/locomotion/…

Search for LFM-66

@Burgi decent guess. That looks like a screw drive as well

DavidPostill

Do you need a screwdriver to drive a screw drive?

Hennes

No, you are not allowed to drink screwdrivers

Journeyman Geek

12:13 PM

Nope.

Hennes

Screwdriver (cocktail)

A screwdriver is a popular alcoholic highball drink made with orange juice and vodka. While the basic drink is simply the two ingredients, there are many variations; the most common one is made with one part vodka, one part of any kind of orange soda, and one part of orange juice. Many of the variations have different names in different parts of the world. The International Bartender Association has designated this cocktail as an IBA Official Cocktail. == History == This drink appears in literature as early as 1938 "And answered it "The famous Smirnoff Screwdriver", Just pour a jigger of smirnoff...

Journeyman Geek

superuser.com/a/1050554/264220 (if anyone is curious about the context)

DavidPostill

Anyone else seeing images not loading correctly in FF 45?

Journeyman Geek

this is still on 41.0.2 ._.

DavidPostill

I'm seeing this on multiple sites since FF upgraded this morning. It's not noscript or ublock origin. Very annoying

Journeyman Geek

12:21 PM

wierd

DavidPostill

What do other users see on @Hennes wiki onbox?

Journeyman Geek

the same thing, bit with the wikipedia logo

DavidPostill

Hmm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screwdriver
"Secure Connection Failed" error

Try again loads the page...

I'm sure this is related.

qasdfdsaq

ifixit.org/blog/7408/iphone-waterproof

Huh. So Apple did intentionally make the iPhone 6s slightly water resistant

My bet is still on Apple deliberately holding back waterproofing until the iPhone 7 which will be the "first" waterproof phone to be fully usable underwater.

DavidPostill

Something is rewriting the page src="//en.wikipedia.org/static/favicon/wikipedia.ico" ???

Or maybe not. I'm confused :/

Psycogeek

12:37 PM

update, disliked 2 things on this corsair $$$ RGB K70 keyboard when I got it, and got over it. Now HOURS later it is 4:30 in the morning, and I still cant get thier ^%*^$%*^$*^$# software to recognise the device. Read 2 manuals and 500 pages of forums , reinstalled it all 3 times, and now smoke pours gently out my ears.

Software, why all software SUCKs nowdays.

i can "find the device" , just gimme a dang Manual select , or would that be to difficult for the average geek spending $130 on a input device.

Burgi

flagged this because the user has created a 2nd account

0

A: Trouble removing null fields and delimiter while concatenating in access select query

I was able to figure out the issue. Some of the blank cells in my tables were not reading as Null. I utilized an Update query to change the blank cells to Null. The "update" was "Null" and the "criteria" was ="".

DavidPostill

12:53 PM

@Burgi No need to flag. See my comments on the Q and A.

Hennes

Maybe I was trying to be to subtle...

I Didnt Try Something , IDK How To Do This. — Roy 42 secs ago

Burgi

wow

thats an easy +2 to tidy up his question...

DavidPostill

@Burgi You need to be a mind reader to figure out what his question actually means ;)

Burgi

I have that installed already

our project manager has asked me to ensure i have done all my bits for the project launch

he hasn't told me what the requirements are or when he is planning the launch

Hennes

So, you have done all he asked for.

Burgi

1:01 PM

heh

if only it were that simple

qasdfdsaq

> I'm not going to womansplain feminism to you. It's the 21st century and you are, most assuredly, not a dick. You like women being equal to men — which is all that feminism means. Not all the penises being burned in a Penis Bonfire. Just women being equal to men. You are like my friend John, when he talks about dating alpha-women: "Feel intimidated by them? Christ, no. Dating and marrying powerful women is like big game hunting. I fuck tigers and panthers. Not… chihauhaus."

> Because remember that patriarchy's bumming you as hard as it's bumming us. We're bulimic, objectified and under-promoted. You, meanwhile, are unable to talk about your feelings lest you get punched in the nuts by "a lad" telling you not to be "a bender".
You are unlikely to get custody of your kids, and are three times more likely to commit suicide. Feminism's about sorting all this stuff out. Because it's about equality. Not burning the penises. I can't emphasise enough how much it's not about burning penises. No burnt penises here.

lolololololol

Burgi

you read some weird shit

qasdfdsaq

Yeah I have no idea how I find this stuff

jokerdino

I won't fall for his trap.

qasdfdsaq

Oh wait, someone shared it on my Facebook

Ironically, it's a woman sharing an article from a men's mag: esquire.co.uk/culture/advice/a9641/…

Burgi

1:14 PM

esquire is NSFW btw

qasdfdsaq

Oh. Sorry.

<== Not a regular reader

It's a mostly text article with a few totally SFW cartoons, maybe?

Burgi

me neither but i have seen it on the shelf in the motorway services

qasdfdsaq

<== Not a regular motorway services user

Burgi

usually when i am in the process of buying my ~~pr0n~~ ~~daily telegraph~~ guardian

qasdfdsaq

You buy that shit at motorway services?!

Burgi

1:16 PM

oh wtf

qasdfdsaq

Shit that reminds me, I need to get me a motorbike license

@Burgi It's ---text--- not <tags>

Burgi

ty

yet on the main site its tags....

jokerdino

quick, make it go away before He comes.

qasdfdsaq

Flag it! Quietly though ,we don't want to know who the secret flagger is.

Burgi

-1

Q: What is pirated software?

I heard about pirated software. so, I want to know what is pirated software? Also want to know which term is used for non-pirated software. Note: If there is other term should be used (or more appropriate/specific) rather than "pirated", then also suggest it.

terminology definition

jokerdino

1:20 PM

That name is familiar.

Burgi

The "yaaaar" should get me at least +10.... :S

LOL

qasdfdsaq

Lol flagbait. That should probably go on my Facebook where it can't get flagged.

jokerdino

We are veering into ~~flagging~~ dangerous territory now.

Psycogeek

@Burgi arrr pirate software is the kind that you can use with one eye, and a hook. If'n you get it from eeligitimate sources it could have your computer walking the plank or being keelhauled, which generally is not good for it. People who dont know what pirated software is after using web resources easily available are often found strung up on the yardarms , or beat over the head with them stick things that hold the ropes.

Burgi

hehe

Tom Wijsman

1:30 PM

Pirate software is software for pirates, rite? xD

Life as a pirate in a modern world...

With the complexity of our modern world they need digital maps, you know!

Burgi

somali pirates need software to catalogue and inventory their booty

obviously they do this properly and put it out to tender

Tom Wijsman

Booty Access for all you Super Pirates out there.

Burgi

Now with added Parrot™

Dave

Captain Dave reporting in

Tom Wijsman

@Pandya Welcome aboard, matey! Hmm. Please visit our self-appointed captain Dave for a report...

DavidPostill

1:35 PM

Traceroute

All information is transferred over the 'net by pirates1.

When you send your data somewhere, what *really* happens is that one of your pirates picks up that data, works out where he's going and strides purposefully off down the information superhighway.

Normal pirates are fit and strong. They can walk nearly any distance. Occasionally, though, you'll send them to somewhere that just doesn't exist. Then they may realise they can't get any closer, in which case they'll just curl up and die2.

2

Dave

There used to be this "Parrot" DOS application that used to do audio filtering rather.. It was great

@TomWijsman ?

@Pandya Psssht. I don't think he's captain! Don't tell him or anyone...

Psycogeek

well he does have the parrot, soooo i just figured.

Tom Wijsman

1:42 PM

Time for an obligatory ...

Pandya

Is pirated software is the same as counterfeit software said by microsoft?

Burgi

yes

Pandya

@Burgi Thanks

qasdfdsaq

Strictly speaking, no.

DavidPostill

@Pandya Please note that pirated (cracked) software that is downloaded from random locations on the internet is very likely to be infested with key loggers/trojans/virus/...

qasdfdsaq

1:49 PM

Counterfeit software even more so

Pandya

@qasdfdsaq what is counterfeit software? (different from pirated?)

qasdfdsaq

Counterfeit software is pirated software that claims to be genuine.

Pandya

@DavidPostill point to be noted. Thanks

@qasdfdsaq you can add your answer to question

By the way Does "piracy" come into picture (apply) in-case of free-software? @DavidPostill

Burgi

yes

some free software has restrictions on who can use it for free

for example the latest visual studio is free...

Journeyman Geek

@Pandya yes.

Burgi

1:55 PM

... to amataurs and companies with less than 200 employees

Journeyman Geek

Counterfeit software probably comes in a box tho

Burgi

that might be a localised thing though

never seen boxed illegal software in the UK

Pandya

Remember that I'm talking about free/libre software

Burgi

boxed illegal dvds and music.... yes

@Pandya yeah

Journeyman Geek

Might be a thing in China. The worst I've seen is shitty single colour printed CDs in baggies.

That was something like 20 years ago

qasdfdsaq

1:59 PM

Lol

My parents used to import some pretty decent looking counterfeit Windows discs back in those days...

I was too young to know the differnece.

Journeyman Geek

This was before fast internet.

DavidPostill

@Pandya Free software cannot be pirated, unless someone steals the program or source code and tries to pass it off as their own creation)

qasdfdsaq

Yes it can.

Also separately, terms of the license can be violated. Free of charge doesn't mean license-free

Burgi

thats sort of what i was trying to say

just not as clearly or concisely

DavidPostill

@Pandya It depends on the licence.

@Burgi I've seen boxed pirated DVDs in the UK. I suppose some of those could have been software and not films ("adult" or otherwise). You will see that kind of stuff at car boot sales ...

Burgi

2:05 PM

@DavidPostill i just assumed they were films

DavidPostill

"Roy" seems to have a borken keyboard

-1

Q: Html IP - Please help

I'm currently Worked In My Sites File Html. How I Can Do This Site Will Be Open Only to This Ip 89.100.102.9 [Its Not Mine IP] What I Need To Write In The Index File For The Site Will Be Open Only to 89.100.102.9 Thanks Roy

html

Journeyman Geek

Or a broken braim

DavidPostill

That's the 2nd question with strange caps.

Looking on the bright side, he's not as bad as nnicrosoft

Bob

@DavidPostill AH, @JourneymanGeek's favourite saladcase :P

Journeyman Geek

I like veggies in my salad. Silly wabbit, alphabets are for soup.

jokerdino

2:10 PM

They call it title-case but I don't use it for titles either.

Burgi

WOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i'm in the 1K club!!!!!

DavidPostill

@Burgi Congrats

Burgi

i'd like to thank the kittens and god and the people that keep me fuelled with Tea

Pandya

I was outside, came back

DavidPostill

@Burgi You can see vote counts and create gallery chat rooms ;)

Pandya

2:13 PM

OK. yes, I think it depends on license @DavidPostill

Hmm., proprietary software mostly puts the restrictions for copying , using, distributing etc by means of license and violating it (license) makes it pirated right?

Journeyman Geek

Kinda

@Burgi 19000 to go :)

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek can you assign me a bounty (OOH! another pirate reference we missed!) of 10k? ;)

Pandya

2:29 PM

@Burgi Congratulation for being Established user

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek 24000 (site analytics) ;)

Burgi

this picture looks familiar....

0

A: Why don't you use root for browsing the internet

Kali linux is not meant as a general purpose OS. Its meant to be a standardised platform for deploying specific scripts to do various tasks. Its one of these Very good at what it does. Just not what you need when you want to go grocery shopping. I'm told it runs as root by default which i...

Journeyman Geek

2:46 PM

@Burgi bounties are 500 rep max.

Burgi

i figured

Journeyman Geek

Also better for the Siberian tundra.

What is the dog equivalent of an android I wonder

@DavidPostill ahh. The 24k is recent and as a mod, I've had that

I kinda want to hit 100k soonish

Burgi

out of curiosity, without wanting to step on any toes, why would a sock account be useful to a high rep user?

purely theoretical of course

qasdfdsaq

To keep his feet warm.

Faheem Mitha

@Burgi Anonymous postings?

@Burgi Any particular kittens? Or just kittens in general?

Burgi

3:01 PM

just in general

Faheem Mitha

@Burgi Check.

Burgi

did you get your HTML sorted?

Journeyman Geek

@FaheemMitha or General Kitten. Dictator for life and master of all they survey.

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek Ooh, scary. A kittenocracy.

Burgi

General Kitten... I have an image in my head of that general kitchener poster with a kitten head

Faheem Mitha

3:04 PM

Hmm, getting HIMYM flashbacks.

Burgi

with a kitten face

Faheem Mitha

@Burgi Wow, I'm impressed anyone in the 21st century even remembers Kitchener.

Burgi

i'm british

we remember all the wars we win

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi hmm, so I can occasionally slum it out? Also wanted to see if I could hit 3k though edits and got bored.

qasdfdsaq

You get rep for edits? huh.

Burgi

3:06 PM

@qasdfdsaq +2

+96 today, roughly 20 coming directly from approved edits

aside from when i got my association bonus this is my highest ranking day

qasdfdsaq

Heh

I capped out once when my lame-ass 2-minute answer hit the HNQ list

But other than that... meh. I need rep for my socks.

Journeyman Geek

until you hit 3K

@qasdfdsaq why do you need socks? ;p

@Burgi the ranting about kali thing is... for my own amusement mostly

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek i thought @qasdfdsaq was your sock

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi nope

If he was, he'd be the one with lots of holes... I suppose

qasdfdsaq

@Burgi o_0

Burgi

3:19 PM

pretending to have a totally different personality in order to throw us all off the scent

qasdfdsaq

I am nobody's sock

Burgi

;)

woo! halfway to repcap!

hmmm... a spam flag was declined due to lack of evidence yet the post has now been deleted

Journeyman Geek

post was very low quality/naa

but the spam flag would have had other concequences

Burgi

fair enough

i remember you mentioning the other consequences the other week

Journeyman Geek

yup

Burgi

3:27 PM

i did hover between the 2

is there a free text field for flag mods to add a comment for the flagger?

Journeyman Geek

errrrr maybe?

I think there is but there's very few situations where its needed, and I never got into the habit.

Burgi

ok

sort of a "hey this would have been a better flag if you'd done XYZ" type field

jokerdino

There is one but we don't use it

Burgi

is it a time thing or just that you know users aren't as OCD as me?

i'm just curious btw

bwDraco

anandtech.com/show/10125/…

Why is Seagate not making SSDs for the consumer market?

jokerdino

3:43 PM

@Burgi we have buttons and some text field.

bwDraco

I suppose Seagate does not want to enter the extremely crowded consumer SSD market. Flash-accelerated hard drives and enterprise SSDs seem to be more likely to sell than consumer SSDs.

Burgi

@jokerdino that you randomly mash in the hope of being coherent? ;)

its my normal approach to computing

jokerdino

Yes / No/ This guy dun goofed / Wanna give him a spanking? / Add some words here.

qasdfdsaq

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3481723/…

bwDraco

In enterprise space, margins are much larger as businesses are more than willing to pay for cutting-edge technology and maximum reliability. Consumers aren't exactly willing to do the same, with the exception of a very small enthusiast niche (hence devices like the datacenter-derived Intel SSD 750).

Burgi

3:46 PM

@qasdfdsaq wtf....

qasdfdsaq

Lol.

Good job more people have access to cameras these days... got the right bugger's face, vehicle, and registration all on record.

Burgi

this morning there was a woman on the motorway driving a car branded with her company information CLEANING HER TEETH!!!!!!

what sort of idiot cleans their teeth while driving a 1 tonne death machine at 80+ mph

clearly there is nothing more important you could be doing...

Psycogeek

4:17 PM

like picking your nose?

Burgi

cool, @RogUE has 666 rep

you should get a badge for that

bwDraco

4:36 PM

amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RDNN2UGN1QHNF

Wow. Silly little design oversight.

No output-tray-full sensor causes the printer to jam on very long print jobs that span both the main paper cassette and the optional second paper cassette.

More than 500 sheets in, the printer fails with a "Print Zone Jam" because it fails to detect the output tray is full.

bwDraco

5:03 PM

Hmm. So Seagate does have consumer SSDs but they haven't seen widespread market acceptance.

bwDraco

5:15 PM

tomshardware.com/news/…

Why do I get this feeling that ASRock is going to get into legal trouble with Intel at some point?

On the approach to 3,000 flags...

Psycogeek

@bwDraco dont completlyunderstand, but all the OC board asus and gig for sure, i was able to OC my cheap test (and spare) haswell chip with so little trouble , without even altering the bclk, and often there is "strap" that notches the rate for the whole base clock, without changing the PCI rate. IMO it is all about hav9ing an OC motherboard first.

bwDraco

ASRock is putting a dedicated clock gen for the BCLK on the board.

Psycogeek

sure but there are like 4 methods, 3 when the chips are "locked" they just added the 4th bak for locked.

some of the methods would not be the type used for Extreeme LN point wining overclocking, but for your average users that is just a waste of time, they and even most OCer need a 24-7 setting, after playing cute number games.

bwDraco

I talked about ASRock (and other motherboard manufacturers) contractually bound to not enable overclocking on non-unlocked processors. Chances are not bad ASRock will either get sued or lose its license to manufacture Intel boards altogether.

Psycogeek

chances are intel will sell more chips again :-)

intel provides a few tools for overclocking

allquixotic

5:30 PM

capitaloneinvesting.com/main/help/…

bwDraco

Feb 17 at 16:15, by bwDraco

> You agree not to release any Firmware, Microcode, or other functionality which enables the operation of any non-Unlocked Intel Processor outside of its published specifications, including operation in excess of its specified clock frequency.

allquixotic

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we can give you a good idea.

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"we can give you a good idea."

Psycogeek

@bwDraco again, what overclock board does not already do that?

bwDraco

@Psycogeek ASRock is bypassing the restrictions enforced by the chipset and putting a separate clock generator to directly overclock the BCLK.

allquixotic

@bwDraco if they're serious about SSHDs they should really consider sticking more SSD in their SSHDs - 8 GB is not sufficient to provide a very measurable perf increase

Psycogeek

5:34 PM

i am working now on a 129$ gig board, that i pushed a 3.2 to 4.2 , ooooh outside of the published specifications.

bwDraco

My main concern is that nobody else seems to be doing this and it is in direct contravention of Intel's intended processor strategy, where only specific SKUs are allowed to be overclocked.

Jan 9 at 5:35, by bwDraco

Seagate really needs to come out with new SSHDs that have more NAND. 32 GB of NV cache would dramatically boost overall system performance. 8 GB only provides a limited boost depending on your application.

Psycogeek

@bwDraco the main problem, is you have not got yourself a cool OC board to make yourself a desktop, and seen what is possible.

(and how much time you can waste exploring those possibilites)

crasier still was OCing the "server" chips, as originally that was pretty heavily locked down, eventually intels own boards now have OCing ability on desk and server. before they were stuck, and solid as a rock.

bwDraco

I might just refuse to buy ASRock at this point. As noble a cause as you might consider it to be, I don't want to trust a motherboard manufacturer that seems to have an axe to grind with Intel.

Psycogeek

does intel lose money as OCers get weasily little chips and push them up to similars? no because OCers are intent on thier goals, they still beg to buy into big numbers

bwDraco

More significantly, I cannot be sure that ASRock will remain in the market for long enough to continue supporting their products because this is the kind of conduct that can get them in trouble.

Sure, Intel may be imposing silly restrictions, but I'd rather get a motherboard from a brand I can reasonably expect to stand behind their products rather than one that might suddenly pull out of the market because Intel forced their hand.

Psycogeek

5:46 PM

@bwDraco i can think of better reasons to avoid asrock, they tend to be more experimental, and have made more flops. just make sure like anything you wait till some other sucker tests new versions.

bwDraco

I know that ASRock has done some pretty zany things like putting a server-grade SAS controller onto an enthusiast motherboard (ASRock X99 Extreme11).

This whole non-K BCLK overclocking issue, with Intel issuing mandatory (to motherboard manufacturers) microcode updates and ASRock going out of their way to release a motherboard with a dedicated clock generator to bypass the chipset restrictions altogether, is costing ASRock my faith in them.

Sure, I don't like Intel's restrictions and ASRock has noble intentions, but I have serious doubts about whether they can continue to make Intel motherboards for much longer.

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bwDraco

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@allquixotic, @qasdfdsaq, your thoughts on this ASRock BCLK overclocking issue?

Psycogeek

@bwDraco and of course the MB manufactures wouldnt have any (hundreds) of intel secrets about problems in thier chips , that dont much make it to the public. intel suing asrock (for what damages?) is not likely to happen, and if it did it might just make apple more popular (at least with terrorist ;-)

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