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Q: Why do only some programming languages provide a Schwartzian transform like interface for sorting

elegentIntroduction The Schwartzian transform -- also known as map-sort-map or decorate-sort-undecorate (DSU) --, attributed to Randal Schwartz of the Perl community, sorts elements of a list or array by a metric which maps each element to its “sort value”. Example in Python :) For instance in Python...

 
12:30 AM
@MichaelT you meant "CIL" not "CLI" in your assembly language part of the 5 languages??
 
user55340
@JimmyHoffa Yep. Thank you. Fixed.
 
user55340
I'm going to stress gain that my set is about focus and synergy of a particular set of languages.
 
user55340
I was tempted to go with a "all over the board wide survey" approach too.
 
1:30 AM
@Duga surely picks up good stuff every now and then:
in Duga's Neighboorhood, 2 mins ago, by Duga
@MikeCAT Real programmers use butterflies. — e0k 19 secs ago
auto +1 :)
 
meh very old reference
 
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Q: Why should parentheses be used in an if statement?

user37398My document says: This is incorrect: if b == 1 This is correct: if (b ==1) It says that the parentheses forces the expression inside to be evaluated first. Why does this matter?

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Q: JS: Confused about how to 'design' my (leaflet.js) map application; OOP

peterallenI asked another question recently regarding constructors calling constructors in order to organise my code properly but the answers really ended up giving me more questions than answers (which is good in principle) but it left me more confused than ever regarding how to design my application, esp...

 
 
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Q: How to perform summary analytics on production databases?

is_the_seaI want to use production data to generate "user activity" metrics. My thought is to set up a cron job that regularly reads production databases to summarize user activity and then stores the results in a separate metrics database. This metrics database can then be used to generate various dashbo...

 
 
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Q: Learning resources on how to design concurrent data structures

Eduardo LeónI'm looking for written learning resources (books, papers, non-video tutorials) on how to design concurrent data structures and algorithms. To prevent unsatisfactory answers, let me stress that I'm more interested in the process of coming up with data structures and algorithms, than the final re...

 
@MichaelT Groovy is in SoapUI and associated suite of products for any automation scripting you do
@MichaelT I've half a mind to write a "first two languages" you should learn - specifically identifying what to enter your programming journey on, and what the next step is to give foundations to advanced computing thoughts afterwards
your first two programming languages are kind of really key in that regard. The first one you really dig into teaches you to interact with a computer and instruct it to make make decisions and process I/O, The second one you really learn you go at with those basic logic concepts built in, and really start to develop the foundations of your comprehension for computer applications and broader more advanced concepts such as the merest idea of modularity, or reusability
 
 
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Q: What is the concept of variable-free programming?

user16431What does it mean by concept of variable-free programming? I have to write a program which adhere to concept of variable free programming for my class assignment. but i have no idea about the concept of variable-free programming.

 
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Q: Python: architecture implications of using external subprocess or API

jbarlowI maintain a Python 3 package (ocrmypdf) that works with other programs primarily by making subprocess calls. This is partly for historical reasons – it is shell script that grew up. I have since added the amazing CFFI to access a C library that does not provide any executables, and I am looking...

 
I would say, it will be off-topic for every site, but the closes match wille be programmers. — Seelenvirtuose 38 secs ago
 
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Q: How common is it to get unpaid but skilled labor?

Konrad VilterstenDisclaimer. This is not a rant about an employer trying to get stuff done for free. Nor is it a grunt about salary levels, unemployment, scarcity of remote positions etc. On occasion, I find myself having more time on my hands (between assignments, vacation that turns out to be boring, nothing f...

 
 
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Q: moving from an activity to a MapActivity in Android

ABDULRAQEB AL-SARORII am new in android and I have a small problem my question is How can I move from an activity to MapActivity?? and how can I send data from an activity to MapActivity? thanks

 
 
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Q: Difference between For, While and Do While loops

MyVCan I have an explanation and an example for each Loop. Also what is the purpose of Count ++? Also how do you read from a textfield filled with arrays in it?

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Q: HOw to MaKe QueStions for a coding contest

Dragon Surferguys, I am trying to organize a programming contest for my school. But I don't know what type of question to frame. Can anyone help me frame some standard problems

 
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Q: To automate weekly training program

geeti have to create a weekly training program for an institution using asp.net and sql. in this i have to take subjects from a master file ( excel file having different list of subjects for each course in the institution with the allocated hour to complete each subject ). and we have to retrieve dat...

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Q: GPLv3 licensed library requirement and licensing own library BSD

user3839103I have been searching the web for quite some time now, but the plethora of opinions/comments/articles about licensing questions make it difficult to verify how trustworthy the various sources are. Also, they're often contradictory which left me behind confused after my search. Since it's probably...

 
hello,  this is my program to check formatting of value ,                          #include<stdio.h>
int main()
{
        float a=123456.789;
        printf("%3.2f\n",a);
        return 0;
}   i output is 1234567.89    i want to know what is the use of 3 in %3.2f
>> the output is this 123456.79
@PreferenceBean
 
see the section on the "format" parameter
specifically:
> (optional) integer value or * that specifies minimum field width. The result is padded with space characters (by default), if required, on the left when right-justified, or on the right if left-justified. In the case when * is used, the width is specified by an additional argument of type int. If the value of the argument is negative, it results with the - flag specified and positive field width. (Note: This is the minimum width: The value is never truncated.)
 
what is use for 3 in %3.2f
 
I literally just copy-pasted the answer
 
@user143252 Why did you ping me?
 
1:31 PM
@Ixrec while I'm a fan of cppreference.com, and while it doesn't matter in this case, note that these are 3rd party docs for C++, not C. There are occasionally slight differences.
 
sir i cant see anyone here .. as you came .. i ping you
you may have answer
 
@amon IIRC, user143252 is writing C++.
 
@amon true, though I'm not familiar with reference sites for just C and didn't see any that weren't C++ so meh
 
@Ixrec (at the bottom of the page, there's a link to the C version)
 
@user143252 If I have the answer and I feel like answering then I will. Please don't ping me with questions in chat.
 
1:32 PM
ok sir
 
And please stop calling me "sir".
 
@amon ah, thanks
 
ok
what is the use of 3 in %3.2f
 
@user143252 You have gotten the answer already.
 
@user143252 we already gave you the answer to that, scroll up and read it
 
1:34 PM
@user143252 what happens if you change it to %6.2 or %1.1
 
Play around with the parameters and some different values and you will see.
@enderland or %15.15
 
@enderland @RobertHarvey @durron597 and anyone who is interested about @Duga:
FYI, hopefully soon coming to a chatroom near you:
in The 2nd Monitor, 18 mins ago, by Simon Forsberg
truePositive: 7, falsePositive: 1, trueNegative: 249, falseNegative: 32, precision 0.875000, recall 0.179487, f1 score: 0.297872
@Duga with machine learning classification!
 
ooooh
 
as soon as I can get the performance of the classification up a bit :)
 
1:39 PM
uh oh, pretty soon duga is going to be self aware :o
 
@enderland Don't worry, I'll make sure to keep her under control :)
 
but that does seem like it'd be very useful for us, since our site name is too generic to match migration comments reliably on its own
 
Yeah, I've had the idea of improving @Duga's classification for a while, the only question was how.
As I am now studying Machine Learning, your site makes a perfect use-case to experiment with text classification :)
I need more Programmers reputation. Could anyone edit meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/7154/… so that the github URL points to github.com/Zomis/Duga ?
 
@SimonForsberg done
 
Thanks
 
user55340
1:56 PM
@JimmyHoffa Yep. And IIRC, LoadUI. Smartbear has groovy as their preferred scripting language. Its also in Hudson / Jenkins.
 
user55340
 
user55340
@JimmyHoffa Write it.
 
2:11 PM
@Ixrec that's silly - making it the highest number you can think of puts the whole system only a bit away from an unsigned wrap-around and subsequent apocalypse!
 
@AaronHall here's a good one for you - programmers.stackexchange.com/q/310694/52929
 
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Q: Javascript multiple syntax for defining a function

Pratish ShresthaSo i have come across multiple ways for describing a javascript function but never understood how and why of it. A good explanation would really help on the following. function foo() {}; foo: function() {}; function foo() { var bar = function() {} this.bar2 = function() { } }

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Q: (Finance) Full-stack development

TodaiGood day guys, I have a rather random question that I was hoping you might provide me with a good answer to. I'm a soon to be graduated software engineering student who just recently moved to London to live with my girlfriend. Since coming here I've been looking for future graduate / junior job...

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Q: Pseudo-code is dead . Long live pseudo-code

AsteriskIn colleges and in algorithm textbooks , it is quite common for the teacher and author to explain control flow in pseudo-code . With the advent of more expressive languages like Python and Haskell among others , is it reasonable that colleges switch to explain algorithms via one of these language...

 
why on earth is that getting DVs and CVs lol u ppl
SO is a contest for rep. Programmers.SE is a contest for how many questions you can close per week.
 
user55340
@PreferenceBean What? The crappy "recommend a stack for me"? Or the "Why aren't they programming in python?" or the "explain this code for me?"
 
2:26 PM
all three of those are pretty poor fits, though other than the JS one they are at least interesting poor fits :)
 
Sigh.
 
user55340
The full stack already has 2x 20k delete votes on it... and three 20k close voters.
 
user55340
And its because we know that the answers go down hill on them and get into boring and overly done discussions and debates.
 
user55340
We've seen what happens when recommendation questions and opinion polls stay around... they become a mess to clean up as they continue to get more and more low quality answers.
 
This is perhaps an interesting discussion for Programmers Chat - but really not a good answerable fit for the main site. — enderland 2 mins ago
 
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2:31 PM
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Q: How do you get 20 rep to get into chat?

MichaelTPeople keep telling me that there is this wonderful area in Stack Exchange where you can ask questions called "chat" or "The Whiteboard", but it keeps saying that I need 20 reputation. I have such trouble asking questions here, I can't even get above 1 rep. How do I get to that much rep when even...

 
@MichaelT I know :)
 
user55340
And pseudo-code just got an edit to take it into a debate. sigh
 
@PreferenceBean programmers.stackexchange.com/q/310695/52929 see the edit and why it's a bad question, your answer and my comment were completely missing the point he was "trying" to ask
 
not to mention part of the answer is "a lot of them already do, it's hardly unheard of for an algorithms textbook to have its own pseudocode dialect so it can avoid wasting time with language-specific details"
 
user55340
TAOCP made up its own assembly, machine code, and pseudo-code. ... it should be rewritten in Python with python byte code. Then it could get a reprinting every time the byte code changes.
 
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Q: Is it normal not to use Laravel Auth::attempt() function?

Arya BasiriI want to know if it is normal and logical to not use Auth::attempt() function in Laravel. Thanks

 
user55340
@Todai Welcome to chat. Yes, you need 20 rep to actually say anything here (see that post a bit above)
 
user55340
I've seen no rhyme or reason for why a particular company goes with a given stack. Much of the time it is "the senior architect at the time liked XYZ" and then inertia takes it from there.
 
user55340
Its rather hard to change from one stack to another. This often requires a total rewrite of the code which is a wonderful way to introduce bugs. This also means either doubling up on development (because you still need to maintain the old code) or abandoning it as the stack changes... which may mean no new features for a year or two (or more).
 
user55340
I worked at one company that did a C that fit into 640k point of sales to Java webstart and EJBs on the backend that was a 3+ year change (2+ years of contractors trying to get it working, and then gutting the other Java teams in the company to get a development team with a deadline of 1 year). ... and doubling up on the development team during those 3+ years.
 
user55340
btw, @enderland you might want to poke SE to burn those non-obscufcated signatures from imgur and/or purge those revisions from the question. The SE burn may be necessary because the image is referenced in another screen capture that is just a matter of typing it in.
 
2:49 PM
@enderland looks like it was too general and thus OT?
 
@AaronHall it was a discussion, but one relevant to your interests :)
@MichaelT which question?
 
user55340
sigh ok... another fun question to show up in the feeds next.
 
user55340
@enderland Workplace question about signatures. Just glance at the revision history: workplace.stackexchange.com/posts/62350/revisions
 
@MichaelT oh. yeah
 
user55340
I believe you can fix the revision history to clean up to current revision... but SE would need to burn the images.
 
2:55 PM
@Todai I work at a similar firm, but I'm not really sure what the specific question is. I don't really feel like a lot of discussion right now. We're using it for middle office stuff, but I think we could extend it to front office as well. We have tabular data structures in Python, and two implementations of DAG decorators (one in C++, one in Python), an OODB (similar to Mongo, but type-able) as well as connections to all other DBs (if you're permitted to read them).
 
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Q: why does Twitter suck as a platform?

john mangualCan someone interpret for me why Twitter is considered such a lousy app? Apparently 5 disliked my question:

 
(^^^ OK, this is noise, could someone move it?) I'm wiring up a Tableau server, I've worked on SDLC, access control, extending Python logging, and other meta stuff, so I probably can't answer your lower level questions.
 
@AaronHall you can ignore the feed user
 
I'm very reticent to use the ignore feature.
 
in Duga's Neighboorhood, 2 mins ago, by Duga
Unfortunately this is too broad a topic to discuss on SO. Maybe there is a SE site where this is a more appropriate question to ask? I found this on Programmers, maybe you can leverage off of that and put together a question there: programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/208458/…idjaw 1 min ago
 
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Q: Issues with javascript

Obiora Mbakwe OkwudiliHaving issues with getting month and day to display, including leap year etc. This code is textbook, found it in archive whilst riffling for deleted files.. only the month displays..ideally it should work in tandem as year, month and day.. Code is as follows; /* JavaScript */ function getSel...

 
user55340
For next time a CM stops by and asks why we are running out of close votes - we should be keeping the good stuff...
 
user55340
 
@enderland my answer still looks right to me
@AaronHall "I don't want to see any messages from X." "I don't want to use the 'ignore X' feature." wut
 
Nevermind, then.
 
@MichaelT yeah this day has been crappy hah
 
user55340
3:15 PM
@PreferenceBean your answer is not wrong. The question is a rant / discussion solicitation arguing for textbooks to switch to python or haskell.
 
user55340
 
@MichaelT the twitter one is deleted too
oh, that was the -9 one
 
user55340
@enderland It was the second one on the list when I did the screen shot at -9.
 
user55340
Which again brings me to my "refund my deleted question close votes" request:
 
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3:23 PM
@MichaelT It's really not.
I really think you should start looking for the good in things rather than looking for the bad in things. I've not heard you make any positive comments about anything ever.
No offence.
 
user55340
@PreferenceBean The title is the title of a blog post - not a question: Pseudo-code is dead . Long live pseudo-code
 
user55340
The body is on opinion poll about teaching methods:
 
user55340
> With the advent of more expressive languages like Python and Haskell among others , is it reasonable that colleges switch to explain algorithms via one of these languages.
 
user55340
And is then edited to try to refute / argue a different point of view:
 
user55340
> It seems like stating the obvious that pseudo-code is language agnostic. But it is not .
 
3:25 PM
No, the question is whether pseudo-code has any objective value in a world full of expressive scripting languages. It's easily answerable, as both amon and myself have demonstrated.
 
user55340
That doesn't change the issue that the question is very poorly written and reads more like a blog post or quora question than something that can be answered objectively. That the answers have avoided what the question is asking or trying to debate doesn't change the underlying problem that the question is poorly asked.
 
@PreferenceBean I think you guys both edited what you think the question was asking -- but it really isn't what the question was directly asking
 
user55340
Leaving the question open would lead to the problem that we've seen in other verging on rant questions where the people try to argue with the question and get into lengthy comments.
 
@enderland I believe it was.
That some find that ambiguous is a good reason to edit it into shape, but not to downvote it then close it to oblivion. That doesn't help anybody at all.
 
user55340
The OP posted an edit after your answer that appears to try to argue / refute your answer.
 
3:28 PM
Also, yes/no questions are often bad fits for SE overall
plus what @MichaelT said
 
@MichaelT You're overreacting.
 
user55340
@PreferenceBean As a person who has answered it, go for it.
 
My philosophy: If you can restore the question, great, if you can't, don't respond with an "answer".
 
user55340
It also has two delete votes on it.
 
3:30 PM
That's an interesting question, but it is also a bit too broad for Stack Overflow. Perhaps ,if you reorganize it slightly, you may get a better advice on programmers.stackexchange.com. — Eugene Podskal 1 min ago
 
user55340
You've answered it. You think it can be fixed... so fix it. To me, this is going to be one of those questions that inspires excess drama of the OP reverting your changes with "that isn't what I meant, we should be using unicorns and alien languages" and I'd rather just have it go away before it causes those problems.
 
@PreferenceBean I think you will find if you try to edit the question that it is far less clear than what it might seem at first
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again - no other site has this problem. Other sites want to salvage borderline questions. You lot just seem to want to destroy everything. And you wonder why you have a quality problem. Might I humbly suggest looking within? :/
 
It is a classic XY problem, too
@PreferenceBean perhaps instead of complaining about people here not doing things that you can do yourself you could just do them?
 
user55340
We've had our history with getting tons of crap answers on poorly asked questions. I've been on usenet in days of old when such questions would lead to month long debates that eventually went into kill files so that I didn't have to see anything about it again.
 
3:32 PM
@enderland I did. I answered the question, and I see nothing else that needs doing to it, as I've now stated three times.
 
user55340
Unfortunately the kill file system here is rather... blunt.
 
@PreferenceBean the OP added an edit specifically to refute your answer to that question, how do you not see that as your answer not being helpful/directed towards their question?
 
I'm also trying to help solve the wider problem by getting you to realise that you're part of it. I admit it doesn't seem to be taking.
 
user55340
The other problem with sweeping things under the rug with "just don't look" is that eventually it gets out and causes problems everywhere.
 
user55340
We don't want those questions.
 
3:33 PM
@enderland Mate the OP accepted an answer.
There is no higher declaration that the answer answered the question than the answer being accepted.
 
@PreferenceBean you've been on SO long enough to know that isn't true :P
 
user55340
@PreferenceBean The OP accepted an answer when it was clear he wasn't going to get anymore.
 
Look all I'm saying is that if you really want things to improve on Programmers.SE, you guys need to stop automatically blaming everyone else for all the problems.
I'll leave it there.
 
@PreferenceBean lead by example, not by "I'm going to tell you guys that you are the problem and not bother doing anything myself"
 
@enderland I did lead by example. I just gave two examples of how I'm doing so.
 
user55340
3:35 PM
You have 2k rep - you can try to fix the question to be a good one.
 
And I don't believe it needs fixing.
 
@PreferenceBean you obviously feel the question is clear, concisely on topic - five people (two of whom never frequent this room) don't agree
 
That's what you're not getting.
@enderland Ah, so the majority must be right! Okay.
I stand corrected. Continue as you were.
 
the question is also not good enough that anyone has upvoted it
including both people who put answers there
 
Sigh.
I also find it somewhat hypocritical to accuse me of doing nothing but complaining about things. That's exactly what P.SE's approach to questions is. That's precisely the problem!
Hey we should rename the site
closevotes.se ;)
It's lunch time.
 
Try not to close too many more questions while I'm gone :)
@MichaelT You're excused
 
user55340
There are people who try to fix things. You've done 14 edits all time. Do not claim that people are doing nothing.
 
@MichaelT I don't quite understand how edits on that list are counted - it shows I only have 51... I am 100% sure I've made more than that many edits :)
for what it's worth, I actually started editing the "psuedo code is dead, long live pseudo code" (whatever that means for a question) and gave up when I realized the core of the question is actually "here's my claim, amirite"
 
user55340
 
user55340
You've done 77 revisions across 44 undeleted posts; and 51 posts all time.
 
3:44 PM
ahh.... undeleted posts is where that gets me
I spend too much effort trying to save questions that get deleted. :P
for what it's worth amon just edited that question to at least be borderline
 
I tried editing the pseudo code into something more sensible. I try not to get involved in moderation on Qs I've answered, but it was admittedly a bit crappy.
 
@amon I voted to reopen :P
 
I just answer questions if they are interesting to me, not because they “deserve” an answer.
 
user55340
Good edit - though I'm going to wait on a vote to reopen for a bit just to make sure the OP doesn't come back and revert it for an edit war.
 
user55340
@amon Robert takes a similar approach. I've got a few answers on down voted and closed posts too.
 
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Q: py2.7 createGraphicWindow?

user217329How do I create, a graphic window, with blue background? I think it is called a graphic window. Maybe it's called a GUI window. I'm not sure what this is called. -do not use TKinter or any other module. -use python 2.7 please. My goal: Learn to create shapes, lines and colors. I want to see, wh...

 
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Q: How to think about a schedule that pulls from a database as objects

Michael BruceI am working on a personal project using Python. I have been using version control to the best of my abilities and if you would like to check it out and run the app https://github.com/CodeAmend/old-bull-tools/tree/develop if you prefer Floobits, look at my actual code in a editor here: https://f...

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Q: What is an effective way to record rationales behind design decisions?

henrebothaAt our company, we do not use any design documents. We have three employees total so all product design discussion happens in person, or on Slack. (We are also on the pleb Slack package that only allows viewing the most recent messages.) Our product is still in early stages, and we often revisit...

 
So is the top bar with recent questions totally gone now?
 
user55340
4:46 PM
@MetaFight Just that feed. Not totally gone, just not configured that way for a week for the people who complain that they want to see feeds inline.
 
okie
 
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Q: GPL-3.0 based code in proprietary web application

TechmasterI am creating a website in php for one of my client. i wanted to use few piece of code from a Open source code based on GPL-3.0 license. e.g i wanted to use validation code from that lib and modify the 30% of the code for my requirements. Only my client will be using that software and i will pro...

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Q: personal repository with copyright/bsd notice tranferred to organization

user3839103If a personal repository with copyright/bsd license file is transferred to a github organization that consists of more than just the original copyright holder, since a group of people (the organisation) agreed on further developing that code -- what happens to the license and copyright stated in ...

 
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Q: Why does Flux in React block or "waitfor" dispatcher to finish?

Jason SebringThis seems off to me as you would expect multiple async operations to be allowed without having to wait for a dispatcher to complete. In one of my paid gigs, we are having issues with this and had to customize the dispatcher with a debounce logic. Can someone explain why this was a design choice...

 
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@GlenH7 @Ampt somebody actually had a really interesting answer to the thermally-conductive sound-insulating computer case materials question
Steel wool is an interesting idea I hadn't thought of! That has the added benefit of being naturally porous so I wouldn't actually need independent air vents too... I could use a frame and make a sealed steel-wool-bag effectively around the entire frame with many thick layers of steel wool... This would both filter the air, and require zero individual air-vents so the sound of the air intake and exhaust would be diffused across the entire thing which would likely further dampen the sound, and cool the air. This is a very interesting thought! Thanks! — Jimmy Hoffa 1 min ago
 
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Q: What is an "application model"?

user1620696Currently I'm studying .NET Core and in the early docs which first introduced .NET Core we see that talk about the many different verticals. This can be seem in this picture: In all the verticals we see the runtime, the framework, but there's also this "App Model" thing. Also, watching a vide...

 
 
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Q: Tags: business logic vs business rules

Chris CireficeI just posted a question about business rules in MVC views; when going to tag the question I was looking for business-something and found the business-logic and business-rules tags, neither of which have a tag wiki. business-logic seems to be more used with 80 questions tagged vs business-rules ...

 
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Q: Increase code duplication to simplify business rules in views

Chris CireficeI am in the process of writing a Ruby on Rails web application for my university's department. For some of our resources in the web application, e.g. Project, are complex with their view layer logic: a Project can be created by admin or faculty users. after submission, faculty cannot update s...

 
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Q: Relational databases and iterative development

user1620696In many approaches to software development like agile methodologies, Domain-Driven Design and Object Oriented Analysis and Design, we are encouraged to take one iterative approach to development. So we are not supposed to get our domain model done right in the first time we start working in the...

 
8:29 PM
Does someone have any close votes left? This pretty good question has been patiently waiting for over a day for migration to SO. Only 2 more votes needed.
 
> You voted to close this question yesterday
 
> You have chosen…wisely.
 
9:09 PM
Would this question at SO fly on programmers? Any advice maybe?
 
@gnat As I have told it may ` get a better advice on programmers.stackexchange.com., but only if you reorganize it `. In its current form it is a blatant how-to-make-my-own-system-that-does-all-the-things question, nonetheless I still prefer to give the benefit of the doubt that there may be some conceptual core problem that can be adapted for programmers.se. — Eugene Podskal 17 secs ago
 
Writing interview questions. Can't decide whether this is fun or not.
 
9:31 PM
@rene If anyone here could please look and see if this question would be better received on programmers, I would appreciate it. I really need an answer and, apparently, there are some on SO that consider it opinion-based.
Just trying to get some help. I'll reword or restructure however is necessary.
 
Obviously still weekend in programmers country...
With the code example in it comes closer to SO I think @Joshua
 
@rene Ok, cool. I'll move over to the SO chat
 
10:03 PM
Still got all the JavaScript and software design questions to come up with for this. Tonight
Why did I agree to this
Sadface
 
Got any interview tips?
 
Don't stalk people and publish their personal information without permission
 
screw it - I'll have to continue this tomorrow
it's going to be an interesting week
 
Maybe you'll wake up with tons of ideas
 
10:09 PM
I already have loads of ideas but sadly not enough time to implement them
It's largely because we're understaffed, which is surely ironic
 
phone interview? or onsite?
 
Onsite
I suggested a phone round but was shot down
 
understaffed and said don't apply must be anti-Liri Workplace
 
To be fair, it's not like we have a million candidates to screen
Three this week - takes a ton of time to prepare and run but I don't think we could optimise it much more
 
@Joshua it feels like your question is a "please give me code for the answer" more than a design question, though i'm not sure 100% - it definitely feels more like a "I want to write code to do X, how do I write code to do X?"
 
10:12 PM
Oooh I just had an idea
 
Write it down bean
 
I can search for the highest-voted of the five unclosed questions on Programmers.SE and use that as a basis for a design hypothetical in the aptitude test
(snark aside, there's a good idea in there)
 
user55340
 
user55340
Hmm... locked ones. Ok... programmers.stackexchange.com/…
 
kinda wish I wasn't at home tomorrow. motivation for this task doesn't come easily to me; one of the rare jobs for which an office environment is useful to me
 
user55340
10:15 PM
Hashing self answer, only one return, person to blame, mars rover software, and ✓
 
I can take the job of your hands ;)
 
no thanks
 
I'll do all the work we share the pay 1:4 and I get a good word in
I'm 1 your 4
 
You'll have to learn how to spell "you're" before you can pass yourself off as me.
 
your you're it's a chat room spelling doesn't matter
 
10:20 PM
chat room with a bunch of pedantic engineers*
 
and scrap my last comment you get all pay and You make my next resume look like a champ
 
it does affect peoples' perception of you even if this is a mostly casual environment
 
peoples' *
 
I think? I'm not sure. Never really understood how the plural apostrophe works with mostly singular nouns that are representing a plural group
 
10:22 PM
now that you mention it I have no idea
 
people is already plural so I think it's just people's
 
I actually use "people's" in that context.
My understanding is that the word "people" is such a mess that there's no strong consensus or rationale either way.
But I apply transitivity and hope for the best.
That's one you won't get pedantry from me over.
 
If you are speaking about a group of people, large or small, you put the apostrophe after "people." You put the apostrophe after the possessor, which in this case is "people."

So the sentence is:

I correct other people's grammar mistakes.

However, if you are talking about a nationality of people or of a race of people, "people" here can have a plural possessor: peoples.

You might say.

Of all the native peoples in the new world, the Mayans are believed by many to have had the most advanced culture.
 
I think even "peoples" can be a legit plural if you're saying something like "the American and British peoples"
 
this random online site shows people's as the way to write it
 
10:24 PM
@Ixrec yeah
People countable and people uncountable mean totally different things
And are thus pluralised differently
Except they're not
 
but it was the "british and american peoples' perspectives" you'd have it like that
 
It's all very confusing
 
I'll just let the rest of you alll figure it out because everyone here is obviously smarter than me
 
and because we are smart, we stopped caring about it five minutes ago
 
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Q: Make browser allow secure cookie over http

TMGNormally, browsers should not send cookies that have Secure option if connection is unsecured (i.e. http instead of https). Is there a configuration option or a plugin that would allow to change this behaviour for particular domain in Firefox or Chrome? I would like to use such option for conv...

 
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10:32 PM
@PreferenceBean Kingdom of Loathing has your vs you're and there vs their as part of the test you have to pass to get into chat.
 
Go away @Programmers Recent Questions, we like Duga better
 
user55340
> When they get [there|their|they're], [there|their|they're] going to put on [there|their|they're] mittens.
[Your|You're] nuts if you think I'm going to polish [your|you're] armor for free.
 
we could rename it to "Question Duga"
 
user55340
Duga is problems that might be, recent question is problems that are.
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deep
 
10:33 PM
I like Dugas chat room just watch her talk to herself
 
user55340
Its a log file - much like... log4j.rootLogger=TWITTER - yes, log4j to twitter appender: blog.eisele.net/2009/10/…
 
No idea what that means... Intellgence_Level <= @MichaelT_comment >>>True
 
user55340
log4j is a popular framework for logging messages from Java. There are other frameworks for other languages. You can have different appenders - where the log messages go. File is most common. Email isn't uncommon. SMS happens. Twitter is... um... yea.
 
bet Twitter's gonna love the volume from that
 
user55340
@Ixrec compared to... ?
 
user55340
10:38 PM
They do have a rate limiter though.
 
duh
 
user55340
And given the package names, you've gotta work at making it less than 140 characters.
 
user55340
The other bit is most people really tend not to want their log files to be displayed to twitter.
 
lol, yes
 
I think we should make a DeliriousSyntax Tag
 
10:41 PM
Yeaaaahhhh
 
The guy on the left looks mighty familiar
 
Is it causing a flash of recognition for you
 
I think I seen that face on Google Plus
I believe that's where I seen it
 
@PreferenceBean my culturally illiterate assumption is that the girl is "supergirl" ? who's the guy in the background?
 
@enderland Yes, that is Supergirl
 
11:10 PM
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Q: Java beginner, arraylist

DeLoreanI was wondering how I can insert a asterisk (char) in between numbers in an ArrayList. I get that I can't add an char in an Integer ArrayList, and I read that I can 'transform' the asterisk in an int, but it seemed a little vague. This was my attempt, but it doesn't really work. Is there another ...

 
11:20 PM
hi
I was adding some words to my profile, but they didn't quite fit, and I'm not sure I really want to put it up there. It was in relation to the license stuff we've been seeing recently. Here's what I had:
> Feel free to use my code here. It may appear non-trivial, but for the most part my code is not a unique invention, but rather flows naturally from the problem it is trying to solve. If the CC-SSA copyright isn't good enough, use mine with an MIT license. Attribution is nice, if only in a comment or docstring, but no one's going to hunt you down if you don't.
Shortened it to the following and saved:
> Feel free to use my code here, CC-SSA or MIT license. Attribution is nice, if only in a comment or docstring, but no one's going to hunt you down if you don't (unless it's really public).
 
@AaronHall What is CC-SSA? Do you mean CC-BY-SA v3.0? Which MIT license? Have you read the license? Do you understand keeping the license text and copyright notice is the only thing the license requires from users, and you are doing away with that? Could I interest you in the Apache 2.0 license which provides far more protections to all involved parties?
 
I dunno, I wrote it from memory
 
@enderland teh flash innit
 
innit as in __init__?
 
11:34 PM
Chavs would make great Python programmers, they're so money, and they don't even know it.
 
defiantly m8
at this rate I'll be 200k on SO around my birthday :D
 

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