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lol
look, @SeptianPrimadewa is online! :D
or at least it looks like
 
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err what?
 
2:19 AM
I'm all alone
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KTHXBYE
 
 
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KTHXHAI
 
4:07 AM
or...not
 
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4:45 AM
ara ara...~
 
5:03 AM
i dont know why i have this hat
 
what hat
i only has 3 hats ,_,
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ i wish i could spend my whole day like this and watch anime
and O hi yo/
 
5:19 AM
@mirroroftruth steal his kotatsu GO
yo/
 
@Tyhja good plan, shall we
 
@mirroroftruth yessssu
 
lets go, but i don't where :)
 
@mirroroftruth go find hats!
 
i don't need to hat will find me
 
6:01 AM
@mirroroftruth OP :000000 HOW YOU DO DIS
 
@Tyhja i don't know, that is why i am waiting, they will find me, at least one will find me
 
@mirroroftruth xD
 
6:19 AM
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ don't worry i won't steal
you will give me as present, won't you
 
ohayou!
Kashikoi kawaii...
 
6:34 AM
yo/
 
7:01 AM
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ: Regarding the tagging problem, how about the [fma][fma-2003] approach?
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ looks like Demon Archer
 
@nhahtdh [FMA] refers to which series?
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ In general
A series can have VN, LN, manga, anime adaptation - how would you tag it with your method?
 
7:22 AM
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Q: What happened to the girl/maid/youngest former wife of Shigemaru?

abhishah901In Sakura no Mori no Mankai no Shita(Under Cherries in Full Bloom), at the end the maid of the maiden or the former ytoungest wife of Shigemaru was given the letter "We'll be back soon, wait for us", but neither Shigemaru nor her wife came back. This one's a heavy spoiler, don't hover unless you...

 
@nhahtdh as long as there's one continuity, one tag will cover all of the series. E.g., naruto includes shippuden, manga, LN, movies
For a series with more than 3 continuities, a general tag is warranted, like Tenchi Muyo, Gundam, Digimon, Precure, Yugioh
Dragonball is kinda special as the original and Z is one continuity, while GT is noncanon, but Super is
There's also Kai as well which is a remake
IMO all of them should have separate tags with a wiki of how they are broken up
 
I don't see a reason why someone asking about an event in Wing Gundam needs to specify in the question that they are referring to Wing, when the tag should
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ I agree, but then AoT has the live action, which is vastly different from the manga/anime
Do we tag it attack-on-titan-la?
Or do we want a live-action tag?
 
7:38 AM
@nhahtdh probably [{series name}-live] tag. ATM, I don't see a use for a [live-action] tag as, the only reason it's on topic is because it's an adaptation of an anime/manga with real ppl
Tokusatsu like Ultraman is offtopic after all, but questions about their manga and anime adaptations are on-topic. Therefore no need to have a [tokusatsu] tag IMO.
I'd rather the tags focus on the series and franchise
For spin offs with different names like index or railgun, we can have a general tag like [raildex-series] or [a-certain-series]
I'd like to make better use of tag wikis which we have been neglecting for a while now
 
i think nhahtdh is proposing a more combinatory tag system, where you tag individual stuff where it associates eg. [FMA] [FMA:BH][Live-Action][FMA:BH-LiveAction] for example? or am i wrong
 
7:54 AM
@Tyhja in order for the [live-action] tag to be useful, it should be able to stand on it's own, like [anime-production], not as an accessory
Asking about live action production is off topic
Instead, more likely than not you would ask about the production of a specific live action adaptation of an anime or manga series, using the series tag.
 
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Q: I don't remember what the anime was called

RazorzBladeI don't remember anything but this one scene. There is a shrine or temple and someone is carrying boxes. They trip or something and these beads fall out. The beads do something to the character and not too far off is a couple people reading under a tree. Then a fight breaks out. That's all I ca...

 
@Sakamoto lol trying to use bbcode
 
i can't really think of a non-standalone tag though
my point wasn't really about live action per se, but also about a combinatory system
 
@Tyhja this meta covers why meta and dependant tags aren't useful meta.cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/434/…
 
cooking D:
 
8:07 AM
@Tyhja just because it's from another SE doesn't mean it's not applicable to us.
 
no D:<
well that makes sense
 
 
8:24 AM
 
@Tyhja umarun~
 
you know i actually haven't watched the show xD
 
D:
at least read it x3
 
theres a manga? is it complete?
 
not that I know
still ongoing
 
8:27 AM
Let's see... meta-tagging doesn't work since it opens a can of worm for off-topic questions, and it also doesn't work for series w/ multiple anime series.
krazer's proposed solution is to attach those information in the tag name, but I guess we are going to hit the limit even more often
That will defeat the purpose of tagging, since people can't find the right tag for the question
 
@Darjeeling then what do you mean by read it
 
We might want to bug the dev to extend the length of the tags
 
@Tyhja there is manga, but not completed
 
To like 100 or more
 
@Darjeeling i see.... :(
@nhahtdh 128 chars?
 
8:30 AM
@Tyhja why sad, it means there are more to read xD
 
@Tyhja Yeah, something like that.
 
@Darjeeling it means i wont read it now :P
 
xD
 
8:41 AM
@nhahtdh this will be a problem, but we can abbreviate where we can, and use the tag excerpt to fill gap
I don't see a point in having the full name all the time.
I'd also like us to focus on the official English titles too
We can add the JP titles in the excerpt
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ we can create synonyms for tags for that
 
@Tyhja what I mean is for the English names to be the parent tag
 
The full name is useful for newer users for searching and for tagging.
 
If none exists we can use the romanized name, then replace when it gets one
 
Well, i dont really mind which ever being the parent, but as long as it is consistent
 
8:44 AM
We're not consistent, that's why I'm proposing the Eng name first guideline
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ i agree, but I'm stating that I dont mind it being either
Though english first is probably more accesible
(i spots a yuni)
 
@nhahtdh there's been attempts by other SEs like arqade, but it's there's a precedence of it being declined.
I think we should start prioritizing accessibility if we want to attract more active users
.
many new users come here thinking it's another forum and get frustrated because they don't understand the format and either never comeback, or delete their account
 
yes I've noticed this.
do hats disappear after winterbash?
 
9:04 AM
yup
 
nuuuu
 
Help us decide what to do with tagging continuities meta.anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2690/…
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freeeee hat
also, I've been here for a year already :o time flies
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ I don't really need the full name, but we have to be consistent
 
9:12 AM
The tags fma-brotherhood and fullmetal-alchemist is already inconsistent
 
@Unihedron D: cheater!
 
There is a limit to working around the limit of the system
 
@nhahtdh the schema I'm going for is as such: if a full series name can fit, use it if not, abbreviate or ommit common words, as long as it's distinguishable. They do this for long game/series titles on Arqade and SFF
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ i assume they also synonimise other possible combinations?
 
We an synominize the longer combination
But we shouldn't need to
 
9:45 AM
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ wouldn't popular name which may be English or Japanese would be better than using only English
 
@mirroroftruth it wouldn't because the Japanese name will usually be more popular simply because it's older
Prioritizing the English name and synonymizing the romanized name keeps naming consistent
 
I don't know about that but i usually have problem searching the tags, google it, find the another name and then search tag again
mainly those more than 2 words Japanese named anime
 
@mirroroftruth having to Google for the popularity is a problem
It adds an layer of complication
Since we're an English language site, we should stuck more to English
 
ya things should be easier to majority, but that is my problem
 
@mirroroftruth what is your problem
 
9:54 AM
problem is i find hard to search tag, most of the time, though i rarely search tags :)
most of the time i search from Japanese name or name shown in OP and then i can't find it and google the alternate name of the anime and search the tag
 
We could be doing meta post for suggested tags of a new season
Or you can go off what's on MAL
 
Mal do have Japanese name
and yes i use MAL, wiki to find the another name
 
It's easier for newer series, but for older more obscure that never got localized, the romanized JP name is fine
 
There's also an issue of titles being changed when the shows are licensed
 
10:02 AM
newer series comes with english name in OP also so they will be fine
 
@ToshinouKyouko That doesn't happen very often, so we can assess those on a case by case basis
Most ppl are gonna focus on the new stuff more than the old stuff
Most the well-known classic older series have been localized
 
so what should br done to those old anime tags
 
I think we should decide on one tag thing at a time
 
@mirroroftruth synonym them with English as the parent
 
there's no rush
 
10:06 AM
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ that can be done
 
@ToshinouKyouko this is wholely inefficient and inconsistent
@mirroroftruth by mods, yes
We should aim to build upon consistency if we want to be taken more seriously as a community
 
you mean we use english title for every series tag?
 
Use the official localized English name where available
 
I don't see how it is inconsistent. If anything it's more consistent as we solidify each part of the policy.

Rather than bashing in a brand new policy and figuring out it's slightly imperfect later
 
Not just an English name
 
10:11 AM
posted on December 15, 2015 by Kshitij Bhandari

If Saitama can crush a meteor, how can he not kill a simple mosquito? I mean he practised so hard to reach the stage where he is today! He should have killed it.

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Q: Was the death of Mello inevitable?

Kshitij BhandariWas there any way Mello could have saved his life if he had played smart? He could have made it big if he had channeled his aggression.

 
that is a new format sakamoto
 
what about anime with long title like oreimo or oregairu
 
@ToshinouKyouko instead of an wait and see approach, we should go in and try getting our hands dirty, we we make a mistake we'll learn from it. Waiting for something to takes too long as we're often indecisive because we're a community of relatively inexperiened users with varying or in different views on things
 
their abbreviate are popular that their original long name i think
so we should go with it
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ I'm not saying do a wait and see approach, I'm saying do a incremental approach
it's both easier to correct if we are wrong and also easier to make decisions on for a indecisive community
 
10:17 AM
@ToshinouKyouko we lack a pipeline, and what I'm suggesting is an iterative cycle. Collect data, prototype policy, collect feedback, make changes, repeat
Since the we can decide what to do, someone should propose a course if action, if it works we keep it. If not, we try to see if we can change it. If that doesn't work we'll drop it and try again.
We can then analyze where we fell short and how to overcome these problems.
 
The problem with that is that it takes a lot of time for creating the first iteration
that's my main issue
I don't actually mind about the way we go about it
just as long as it actually gets done
#post
 
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ah, guilty crown~
 
@ToshinouKyouko I'll do the first iteration on my own if I have to, but these things have to be done by someone if we want to move forward. I'd rather hear from someone that disagrees with me than hearvno response at all.
No one should get offended or be afraid of speaking up.
 
I am good at disagreeing
 
10:29 AM
for me it depends :D
 
but I also will help if it is what is decided
 
me too
 
well, I am good at complaining & moaning:D
 
if i could :D
 
@mirroroftruth go team!
how are you @mirroroftruth
 
10:30 AM
@ToshinouKyouko yay
@ToshinouKyouko fine and you
 
A lot ppl only get involved when something takes form, but I'm trying to do it give it form by suggesting a direction. The community can then help take it wherever it needs to go.
 
@mirroroftruth good :) happy for christmas
 
you too
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ this to do with the series tags?
 
oh like 10 days left
 
10:33 AM
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ there is an inbetween part that needs to be filled - the actual written specifics / proposal, rather than a suggestion
which is where I see it stalling
 
@ToshinouKyouko I'm offering to do all if I must, but I'm willing to give the community avcrack at it first
 
Okay, I will follow your progress and help if we do it
 
how do we start then
 
It will be a long and detailed spec that will take me three hours to write and it will be detailed like you're reading a book, but not as reasonable and well formed as Logan's posts.
 
won't problem if there is TL;DR;
or i will discuss in chat
 
10:37 AM
Identify problem, compile possible solutions, make use cases for them, revise as needed, post suggestion
 
so first is identify problem
 
In this case tags for continuity, the problem is we're in consistent compared to other similar SEs
 
so we should identify all the problem and go to second phase or identify one problem complete the circle and identify the 2nd
 
Then consider what we can do and how it would benefit us
Then consider how feasible it would be to implement them
The estimate the time and level of effort needed to complete them
 
does SE have an API for chat? ie. what's called when the send button is pressed?
i get the feeling its a javascript ajax call
 
10:41 AM
@Memor-X it's all done via ajax, you can check the calls via a network sniffer, like crone dev tools
@Memor-X meta activity in general
@Memor-X Stack Exchange chat has no API. While this is not a complete chat API, it introduces a level of control that makes it far easier to run chatbots
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ i'm just curious in the functions to post a new message and fetching newly posted ones and seeing if i can run them off the Chrome Console
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ My complaint is more about similar series tagged with different prefix, due to the tag length limit
 
with the network tab i think i found what posts new messages.....just need to work out what fkey is and how to emulate that
 
"Similar" as in all the different Dragon Ball/Gundam/Fate series
 
@nhahtdh why can't we have a parent tag like you suggested
 
10:51 AM
@Tyhja That's even more of a bigger change to the system, tbh
 
this parent tag can be stand alone when the user might want to discuss between the continuities
its like you suggested [FMA][FMA:BH] parent would be FMA
i dont see how it would change too much
 
@nhahtdh this is understandable we can use can use like abbreviations, I only suggested the full titles to make series more recognizable
 
@Tyhja The problem about the inconsistent naming remains
 
what is inconsistant about it
 
Fma-brotherhood would have a synonym fullmetal-alchemist-broth so it comes up when users try searching using the full name
 
10:54 AM
While I'm not against krazer's suggestion, the introduction of the specific series tag will exceed the limit of tag length, and we would end up with inconsistent names for tags with same parent
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ Fullmetal Alchemist Broth, used bath water of Al and Ed is currently on sales
 
We hit the tag limit with the full name so, a partial be better than not having one
@nhahtdh could be a cooking anime spinoff focusing on food alchemy
I'm fine with keeping name abbreviation consistent, but that will require more work writing tag excerpts
Which not many ppl enjoy writing. Words are hard. Even if they can't physically hurt you.
 
and i have not started it
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ I am not sure, but wouldn't just spamming synonyms kind of fix this?
 
11:05 AM
@Tyhja fix what in particular?
 
name abbreviation. hitting one of the synonyms would just point to the parent tag
 
ATTN: Gift Conspirators, if you participated and got a gift in the mail, you should post to least the box it came in if you're not going to open it til the holidays.
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@Tyhja Then you have to type out the parent tag to check. Ain't no one got time for that.
 
@nhahtdh xD
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ We really need to complain loudly to SE dev for increase in tag length
 
11:10 AM
 
er...
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ Tyhja is referring to "parent" tag as the more general tag, and "child" tag as the specific series tag
 
Then my mistake
 
@mirroroftruth that's a good thing, your not going to be waiting for the next release
 
I r be too tunnel visioned
Should go to sleep
 
11:12 AM
are u sleeping in a tunnel
 
@nhahtdh Senshin already did:
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A: Increase limit on tag length

senshinI'm partially replicating and expanding on my 2015-06-24 bounty remarks here because you can't find bounty remarks anywhere once the bounty expires and I don't want my very good justification for why this change needs to be made to vanish. So: Some anime have really long names. And most of the...

 
this cake hat is obscuring my chat box
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ Yes, I'm aware
 
@Memor-X that is why i usually watch or read completed anime and manga
 
mmm nevermind my suggestion ... I dont think it'll work out.
 
11:14 AM
@ToshinouKyouko you need this cake
 
then you have Bebe obscuring your chat box, which is better
 
I have a bebe plushie she is cute
 
@ToshinouKyouko its only a matter of time before it grows and eats your head
 
11:18 AM
How about this bounty message?
> WE ON ANIME.SE NEEDS THIS. N. A. O. The tag length limit is too restrictive, and we end up with a bunch of inconsistent abbr.
 
incons. abbr.*
 
Do we need more bolds?
> WE ON ANIME.SE NEEDS THIS. N. A. O. The tag length limit is too restrictive, and we end up with a bunch of inconsistent abbr.
 
> WE ON ANIME.SE NEEDS THIS. N. A. O. The tag length limit is too restrictive, and we end up with a bunch of inconsi-
 
think *** would help
with some !!! and >>>
 
@ToshinouKyouko I can't tell what the last word is, tbh
 
11:20 AM
@nhahtdh need moar plx and cute 2D girl pix.
 
inconsiduritionalniness
 
> WE ON ANIME.SE NEEDS THIS. N. A. O. tag-len-limit-2-restrictive, end-up-w-inconsistent-abbr.
 
@nhahtdh say plx pls
 
> WE ON ANIME.SE NEEDS THIS. N. A. O. tag-len-limit-2-restrictive, ends-up-w-inconsistent-abbr. plx pls
^Final?
 
11:22 AM
 
It doesn't seem right...
 
@nhahtdh put then in a tag wrapper and we're good.
 
> WE ON ANIME.SE NEEDS THIS. *N. A. O. [tag-len-limit-2-restrictive], [ends-up-w-inconsistent-abbr.] [plx pls]
 
xDDD
 
it might not be too late to know what exactly N.A.O. is
 
11:24 AM
now
 
just now, i thought it have full form
 
Bounty posted
 
iirc it doesn't even do unicode chars right?
tags i mean
 
I don't have much rep, so I make do with 50
@Tyhja It's an option, but not on by default
 
11:27 AM
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ 2 l8
I'm not even sure if tags would show up properly in the notice
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ does posting here make any impact to SE or discussing just the way to post
 
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Q: Increase limit on tag length

Andrew EblingI recently asked a question on Stack Overflow which was primarily about UICollectionViewController, a frequently used class in UIKit on iOS 7. I wanted to tag the post with the tag uicollectionviewcontroller, but could not do this because it exceeded the limit of 25 characters. Please will you ...

 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ VTC because its not about anime or manga
 
I just threw in a bounty to push the feature request
 
@nhahtdh i didn't get it
 
11:30 AM
 
I just upvoted
 
All the discussions here are just polling for a childish and demanding notice
 
Saitama regresses to the web comic form in the last moment of the latest episode, lol
 
11:46 AM
Gaiz watch Gurlz and Panzur. It's gud.
 
completed
 
moe moe
 
time for anime :D
cya guys
 
11:47 AM
O/
 
enjoy!
 
Mornin'
 
Mornin'
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ i watched sora no woto..... >_>
 
12:02 PM
@Tyhja days not gurlz und panzah
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ it still be naise D:<
 
@JNat Hello
@Tyhja wut u mean
I mono
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ wut. i mean i watched dis gurls and dey b moe
 
el psy congroo
 
@ToshinouKyouko congee is yum
 
12:11 PM
Moar puns pls
 
buns are yum too :0
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ MUZUKASHI DESU
 
Something is wrong in this image
Can you find it?
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ Lawl
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ Is she that smart?
 
12:17 PM
 
@nhahtdh nah, she's barely conscious.
 
I just read the chat. What's happening finally? Ignoring the tag length problem, are we getting different tags for different continuities with spammed synonyms? :o
 
@AshishGupta see the second pinned message for context
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ How do I do that?
 
@AshishGupta look at the star list?
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ 3.14159265358 and not 3.1415926538
 
@HamtaroWarrior You win!
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ (Thanks google :>)
 
@HamtaroWarrior here is your reward: dynasty-scans.com/series/yuruzero
 
Gao
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12:29 PM
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ What is the hell? haha
 
@HamtaroWarrior a fate/zero x Yuri Yuri doujin
 
>////>
 
12:50 PM
Hello! ;D
@nhahtdh I am smart :c
@Gao heh, bakaa ~
 
hi
 
Gao
@Chinatsu-creepy-chan janaino~~
 
@Chinatsu-creepy-chan proof pls
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ pi = 3
@Gao I can't choose: Sakuya or Flandre?
Sakuya was my waifu back then but Flandre could kill her even before she stopped the time...
IDK.
 
@Chinatsu-creepy-chan pro
 
Gao
12:58 PM
@Chinatsu-creepy-chan so 9 = pi squared. I'm both round and square
 
I am a tomato
 
Gao
@Chinatsu-creepy-chan China
 
Gao
Hong Mi Ling
 
I dont like her that much
My favorite ones are Flandre, Sakuya, Yukari and Reimu. Maybe Sanae
 
1:09 PM
@Gao what kind of yokai is China
 
Gao
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ According to wiki, it is currently not known what kind of youkai she is.
 
Gao
@Chinatsu-creepy-chan I like whoever has the best theme music
 
Man, vaporwave and future funk.
 
@Gao imma guess shisa
 
1:18 PM
Is there any genre that mixes this with loli/noisecore?
 
Gao
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ Maybe ryuu
@Chinatsu-creepy-chan an example each?
 
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