The Incomprehensible Room

That is all they do. They specifically do not think "oh hey there's that asshole Reg, I'll get sweet revenge on him". No. They don't think, period. They are just human captchas.

@KitZ.Fox er. I think we're talking past each other here.

Kit Z. Fox

OK.

RegDwigнt

Anybody can raise a flag, anywhere. But only a mod can actually act on it.

Kit Z. Fox

4:52 PM

Or anyone with 10K combined across sites.

RegDwigнt

Well yes.

Though in at least one instance it was a mod. It's in the Teachers' Lounge transcript.

Kit Z. Fox

So when you have 6 votes on your flags, you know it wasn't a mod who validated it.

RegDwigнt

I can't see votes on my flags.

Kit Z. Fox

I disagree with how the situation was handled. The room should have been frozen, in my opinion.

@RegDwigнt Oh?

RegDwigнt

Yes.

Kit Z. Fox

4:54 PM

@RegDwigнt Then why didn't you do that?

RegDwigнt

Hindsight is 20/20.

I didn't freeze it because I wanted to chat. Like I always do. And so wanted others.

Kit Z. Fox

Well, technically you could have continued to chat.

RegDwigнt

There were enough people to have a civil chat with one another, and enough people actually having it.

Kit Z. Fox

Transcript looks like the situation broke down fast.

RegDwigнt

@KitZ.Fox yes. Shoulda freezed it, kicked everyone out, and kept talking to myself.

As I said, hindsight is 20/20.

Kit Z. Fox

4:56 PM

@RegDwigнt Or all the other mods hanging out in there.

@RegDwigнt I get it. Now we know for next time.

RegDwigнt

@KitZ.Fox that is a wrong impression, then.

My first message got deleted a couple days prior. Or maybe even a week.

Kit Z. Fox

So what started the fire?

RegDwigнt

I don't think anything "started" a "fire".

I can link to my first message that got deleted, if that's what you want.

chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/25381245#25381245

So that's like 2 weeks ago now.

Kit Z. Fox

EL&U chat wouldn't be in the state that it is in if there weren't a fire. I didn't get called back for status quo.

RegDwigнt

I don't know what state the EL&U chat is in. I haven't visited in five days.

Kit Z. Fox

5:00 PM

And your message wasn't deleted by a bot. Feeds is always the attribution for the flag process.

RegDwigнt

Yes I know that now.

Kit Z. Fox

@RegDwigнt Right. I know.

RegDwigнt

And that's another thing that needs fixed if you ask me.

Kit Z. Fox

So you know who to be angry at?

RegDwigнt

No. So people start thinking, reading, and looking before clicking a fucking button to delete a message by a mod.

Kit Z. Fox

5:02 PM

I don't think mod status confers any special protections.

RegDwigнt

It's not about special protection. sigh

Go ahead delete every message of mine, I do not care. That is not what this is about.

Kit Z. Fox

It's that you specifically mentioned "by a mod" up there.

But tell me what this is about.

I want to understand your thought process.

RegDwigнt

Yes. Because the way it ended was that a mod posted rules of conduct, and since he was a mod they presumably should have been paid attention to, rather than deleted by a drive-by stranger.

What do we need rules of conduct for if anyone can just delete them thirty seconds after they get posted.

Kit Z. Fox

I'm not following. Where/when were the rules posted?

RegDwigнt

@KitZ.Fox it's basically the same thing rchern once said, like four years ago. You can put a mod on ignore. It's just not very wise.

Same with deleting messages of theirs.

@KitZ.Fox I said, "if I come in here and you call me a fag, that's one thing; but if I come in here and you are talking about kittehs, and I specifically search the transcript for mentions of fags, that's a whole nother story, and if I'm offended at specifically finding what I'm specifically looking for, that's my own fault".

Something to that effect. And it got deleted. Because it used the word fag.

But I must run.

Kit Z. Fox

5:11 PM

@RegDwigнt Well, it's a bit unclear that you intended that as rules of conduct. I think "Nobody is under no obligation to read the transcript. So don't flag shit from five years ago." is a lot clearer.

@RegDwigнt see you later, I hope.

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