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12:41 AM
palindrome ;-)
 
 
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2:48 AM
too bad there's that pesky comma ;P
 
 
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7:39 AM
@JosephWright @barbarabeeton Now, serious question. We do close question as off-topic if they are resolved by a package update. How about template updates?
 
@Too_Pro That's why it's better to have over 100K rep, so the comma is in the middle.
@egreg what is the issue there exactly? Something we should report on luatex list?
 
Have a Question or Comment About This Template? ist it that hard to freaking click the freaking Ask a Question button?
 
@DavidCarlisle Funny ;-)
 
@Johannes_B egreg and I have been known to have difficulty with that.
 
@DavidCarlisle You can see in my answer a reference to another one, where the horizontal list obtained from a math list differs quite a lot with LuaTeX or pdfTeX. tex.stackexchange.com/a/232140/4427 Instead of small height and big depth, everything contributes to height.
 
7:44 AM
@DavidCarlisle That's alright. You aren't template users. :-)
 
@Johannes_B No, they don't ask questions, that's the real culprit ;-)
 
@Johannes_B Says who? ;-)
 
@egreg Oh no :-)
@Johannes_B <- Forgot the link, sorry tex.stackexchange.com/questions/276063/… @JosephWright @barbarabeeton
 
@Johannes_B Probably not: using a template, the OP will have the version they have so an update doesn't help them
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Q: Why topics and comments disappear from a post?

Igor LiferenkoI do not see some of my comments. Specifically I can name at least one which I remember very well, and which is not there anymore - in comments on the answer in this topic How to compile LM-fonts from sources? I left a comment "I did not see the recipe... Did you?" (verbatim). Can anybody delete ...

Other views welcome
 
@JosephWright That will not help the op, but another user searching for how to change margin in my *templateName comes here, sees a vmargin solution and wonders what is going on.
@JosephWright The old discussion: Q/A vs forum.
 
8:38 AM
@Johannes_B True: at least an edit is required I guess. I can see 'close as OT: historical info'
 
@JosephWright I am really confused by all this.
 
9:02 AM
Morning @DavidCarlisle
 
@JosephWright morning (the index in interface3 doesn't work:-)
@JosephWright was searching for those unit convertions in texdoc interface3 landed on page 85 (the index) which said they were on page 85 but link goes to the start of document (or nowhere)
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes: it's all @wspr's fault
 
@JosephWright Oh so long as we have someone to blame, that's OK.
@JosephWright If it was just for me I would not have noticed as I'd have looked in the dtx not the pdf, but was trying to do "the right thing" for an answer:-)
 
9:30 AM
@ChristianHupfer ooh
@egreg Sadly no. :)
 
@PauloCereda I spotted a loony right now: He has disguised himself as duck-bee ;-)
 
10:03 AM
@ChristianHupfer oy <3
 
@PauloCereda Have a loony Black Forest cookie, please ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer yaaaay
:)
 
@DavidCarlisle I see we got a nice demo of our automated tests today :-)
 
10:19 AM
Better way to do this:
\documentclass[a4paper]{memoir}
\usepackage{xparse,amsmath}
\ExplSyntaxOn
\clist_new:N \l_my_clist
\NewDocumentCommand\tsub{ m }{
\sb{
\clist_clear:N \l_my_clist
\clist_set:Nn \l_my_clist {#1}
\clist_pop:NN \l_my_clist \l_tmp
\textup{\l_tmp}
\ifnum\clist_count:N \l_my_clist>0
,
\clist_use:Nn \l_my_clist{,}
\fi
}
}
\ExplSyntaxOff

\begin{document}
\[
X\tsub{max} \qquad X\tsub{max,d,t,t}
\]
\end{document}
 
@JosephWright regretting asking for contrib tests yet?
 
It is a take on Egregs \tsup idea, in this case we'd want the first item to be upright, the rest normal. I'm not sure this is a good implementation
 
@daleif Just \clist_use:Nn \l_my_clist {,}: no need to pop and count items. Oh, the first must be upright? That's a different thing, although I don't understand why you don't use \mathrm{max}.
 
The more features/presets a template has, the harder it gets for a starter to adjust the template for own requirements.
@barbarabeeton ^^^^^ :-)
 
@Johannes_B what you need is a template tied to Kaveh's talk at UKTUG (once @Kaveh1000 and @JosephWright get that online:-)
 
10:31 AM
@DavidCarlisle What was the talk about?
 
@egreg, the text might not be suitable for \mathrm, in this case of couse you are right, just wanted to make it more general.
 
@Johannes_B adjusting package (but could be template) parameters in a GUI
 
@DavidCarlisle That seems to be needed. :-(
 
@daleif Here it is
\documentclass[a4paper]{memoir}
\usepackage{xparse,amsmath}
\ExplSyntaxOn
\clist_new:N \l_daleif_tsub_clist
\NewDocumentCommand\tsub{ m }
 {
  \sb {
    \clist_set:Nn \l_daleif_tsub_clist {#1}
    \clist_pop:NN \l_daleif_tsub_clist \l_tmpa_tl
    \textup{\l_tmpa_tl}
    \clist_if_empty:NF \l_daleif_tsub_clist
     {
      , \clist_use:Nn \l_daleif_tsub_clist{,}
     }
  }
 }
\ExplSyntaxOff

\begin{document}
\[
X\tsub{max} \qquad X\tsub{max,d,t,t}
\]
\end{document}
 
@DavidCarlisle Batch Commander?
 
10:36 AM
@TorbjørnT. ?
 
@DavidCarlisle The program Kaveh and others have presented at TUG previously, e.g. river-valley.zeeba.tv/…
 
@egreg thanks
 
@TorbjørnT. oh probably. I don't think he gave it a name in the talk) "batch commander" found something else in google:-) anyway he showed it reading a config file for geometry package and then sliding sliders around to control the geometry...
 
10:55 AM
@Johannes_B In word you can adjust parameters in GUI, and it doesn't make life easer. The problem is not so much the interface but to understand how parameters connect and interact. Changing the color of a font to red is easy, changing all headings to blue but keep their different font size is difficult.
 
\RequirePackage{scrlayer-scrpage} % Required to customise headers and footers
\PreventPackageFromLoading[\ClassError{\classname}{package
`fancyhdr'  incompatible with this class}{The pagesyles
are defined using package scrlayer-scrpage, ^^Jplease consult the
KOMA-script documentation for details.}]{fancyhdr}
^^^^ that really isn't worth all the trouble. Freedom for the users i request.
@UlrikeFischer understanding, or rather missing understanding, seems to be the main issue here.
 
@Johannes_B Yes, the main problem is not on the side of the template writers but the users: they use templates with the argument "I don't have the time to learn latex", but with a small template you have to learn (some) latex to expand it, and with a large template to adjust it. The only way to avoid to have to learn latex is to let someelse do the coding.
 
@UlrikeFischer The problem is on the side of the template providers as well, when the template is just bad. Like the famous Thesis.cls -> sunilpatel.co.uk/thesis-template
@UlrikeFischer They want to use something without learning how it works. That approach is wrong. But it seems that many want to use latex and want to use template to ease the start. At least this is what i understand from the few discussions i had with users.
 
@DavidCarlisle No :-)
 
@UlrikeFischer Some also state, that the documentation they found wasn't good. Partly, because they were simply looking into the wrong place (clsguide instead of latex2e.pdf or similar). Others had taken information from some blog instead of, well, latex2e.pdf or similar. I think making the basic and reliable documents more prominent is a good start.
@barbarabeeton ^^^^^
 
11:11 AM
@Johannes_B Bad software and products exist everywhere. And regarding the "use template to ease the start": Let them do it. Even if the template is bad, they can learn something from it - e.g. that not every code in the internet is good.
 
11:26 AM
@UlrikeFischer True :-)
 
12:10 PM
Any forest users around? Have you seen chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/30992/forest-v1-1
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yo'
@TorbjørnT. I commented there. I really think that your comment would deserve a combo star from @Joseph, to give it more visibility.
 
12:31 PM
Trying to debug this one tex.stackexchange.com/q/270890/3929, looking at the code of both subarray and multlined, they both use \ialign, by TeXBook is at home, and TeX by Topic does not mention much about it. What are the caveats by using \ialign?
The thing I notice is that the \ialign used in multlined seems to set the size of the \substack (made using subarray), and I'm wondering why.
Though I hardly know anything about the basic TeX alignment macros.
 
yo'
@daleif where is wipet when you need him? :-)
 
Ahh, old tugboat says it is a \halign with \tabskip set to zero.
@yo' ah, yes he would know. Perhaps I should make a specific question. I;m wondering if the problem comes from nesting.
 
yo'
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A: Showcase your language one vote at a time

yo'TeX TeX was the first language to get its own StackExchange site. 1 % The percent sign starts a comment; the comment runs until the end of line, and eats the end of line together with leading whitespace on the next line. 2 <endline><endline> Two consecutive ends of line finish a paragraph. ...

 
12:57 PM
@yo' -- add the name of the language to the list in the question.
 
yo'
@barbarabeeton ah forgot about that, thanks!
 
@daleif \def\ialign{\everycr{}\tabskip\z@skip\halign} % initialized \halign
 
I will not buy this record. It is scratched!
 
@yo' -- i like your choices. what's #5 going to be? (#6 might be \input.)
 
@daleif I tried it, but hadn't time to go into the details. It's obviously due to the nesting, but unfortunately I can't look into it now.
 
1:13 PM
@DavidCarlisle thanks
 
yo'
@barbarabeeton #6 is clearly \relax :) #5 is a toughie, but I was considering x\bye -- the minimal document that really produces something.
 
@egreg here is a fun one
\makeatletter
\renewenvironment{subarray}[1]{%
\vcenter\bgroup
\Let@ \restore@math@cr \default@tag
\baselineskip\fontdimen10 \scriptfont\tw@
\advance\baselineskip\fontdimen12 \scriptfont\tw@
\lineskip\thr@@\fontdimen8 \scriptfont\thr@@
\lineskiplimit\lineskip
\ialign\bgroup%
\ifx c#1\hfil\fi
$\m@th\scriptstyle aaa## bbb$\hfil\crcr
}{%
\crcr\egroup\egroup
}
\makeatother
Now, then multlined is used aaa and bbb appear three times, not just the two that comes from \substack
 
@yo' I'm tempted to register just to get you to five :)
 
@yo' -- yes, \relax is definitely the winner. your proposed #5 reminds me of the canonical swifty: "x, said tom, wisely."
 
@daleif looked at the referenced question after that, I agree with egreg, something to look at later:-)
 
1:18 PM
@daleif If you insert \let \math@cr@@\AMS@math@cr@@ in the subarray definition (after e.g. the line with \restore@math@cr) then it seems to work again. But I don't know how mathtools can do it in a sensible way.
 
yo'
@barbarabeeton :)
 
Is this uneven spacing intended?
\documentclass{scrartcl}
\usepackage{kantlipsum}
\begin{document}
\kant*[7]

\begin{figure}[!htbp]
  \leavevmode\smash{\rule{1pt}{26pt}}\kant*[7]
\end{figure}

\leavevmode\smash{\rule{1pt}{26pt}}\kant*[7]
\end{document}
 
@Manuel there's no need for a paragraph indent at the start of a float so my guess is: yes
 
yo'
@Manuel you mean the top vs bottom? May be. Have you tried adding a caption?
 
@yo' Yes I tried, with the same result.
 
1:29 PM
@Manuel Oh, you mean the vertical spacing?
 
@Manuel what uneven space?
 
@clemens What do you mean?
 
yo'
@Manuel indeed the space at the bottom is larger than the one at the top, even with a caption
 
@Manuel i misunderstood your question at first. Ignore that comment :)
 
@yo' Indeed :)
 
1:36 PM
@Manuel ..\glue(\lineskip) 0.0 TeX can not maintain baseline spacing at top and bottom of a box as each box only has one reference point, if you stack vertical boxes then if you use \vtop(\parbox[t]) or \vbox (\parbox[b]) then you can not get a natural baseline calculation between the bottom of one box and the top of the next. You can do it once, by doing \vbox followed by \vtop but then you lose control of the text before the first box and after the second.
@Manuel It is possible of course to manually measure and position, but hard to do that on the main vertical list.
 
@DavidCarlisle So it's not a bug, but "that's what it is", right?
@DavidCarlisle Any workaround (even manual)? They don't look specially well with that unbalanced space. Has it been always like that?
 
Nice behavior of MathJax: the text To see why, consider a vector $v\in C(A)\cap N(A^T)$; then $v=Ax$ for some $x\in\R^n$ because $v\in C(A)$; since also $v\in N(A^T)$ we get is rendered like so
Note the nice semicolon after the line break. :(
 
yo'
@egreg you're too strict on it; it does a neat job, given the environment in which it works. You can get around this by using \text, the price is that the semicolon will become a part of the image and get a different font.
 
@UlrikeFischer interesting, yes it has to be something like that we need to fix this
 
@yo' I don't want to go around it: there is no space between $ and ;, so there should be no break either. This is a bug in how MathJax interacts with the HTML renderer.
 
1:53 PM
Hello, how do you call something in the beginning of a chapter that directs you right to a section/subsection (like a table of contents for a chapter)
 
yo'
@user2692669 per-chapter toc. One package to make them is minitoc, but it doesn't do a great job. There are people who even hate them (looking in @egreg 's direction)
 
@yo' is it faulty? should i just skip it?
 
yo'
@user2692669 Not really faulty; just moreorless impossible to configure, and incompatible with a lot of packages. I use it happily, but I get a lot of warnings, and I tweaked it in the low-lever programming layer.
 
@yo' There's also etoc, I believe. But you're right: I dislike them.
 
yo'
@egreg and my supervisor said: "btw, this is really cool, I really like it."
 
2:01 PM
@yo' :)
 
@user2692669 As mentioned, etoc is available as well. But it is also quite a bit magic to configure. But the standard is alright.
 
2:25 PM
@Manuel probably workaroud possible (but not during the day, unless @egreg does it, some of us have real jobs:-)
@yo' not necessarily mathjax doesn't make an image (unless you count svg as image) and can use the surrounding text font for \text
@egreg or a bug in the html renderer that it breaks before ;
 
@DavidCarlisle I don't think so: I've never seen Safari sending punctuation to a new line, except when MathJax is involved.
 
@egreg yes but if you are using say the svg output then the question is whether there is anyway of controlling what happens if you do <svg>...</svg>; linebreaking in html is almost all a black box under the control of the browser, you can tweak some parameters with css, some of the time, but there is no \nobreak it may be that mathjax is leaving some construct that is explictly breakable but I wouldn't assume that simply because it breaks there.
 
yo'
2:57 PM
If only all students who come to office hours asking for help were as well-prepared as this one.
@DavidCarlisle Exactly. MathJaX would have to parse the surrounding material to find the adjacent non-whitespace and put it all together in one <span style="white-space:nowrap">...</span>.
 
@yo' perhaps, although as egreg comments there is no white space here so that might not help either. possibly related to github.com/mathjax/MathJax/issues/774
 
yo'
@DavidCarlisle ah then "white-space:pre" or what
 
3:21 PM
how would I embiggen one number or symbol in an equation?
 
yo'
@JoeStavitsky there are many ways. What do you need it for?
 
well I wanted to multiply a sigma sum by a constant
 
yo'
@JoeStavitsky like in: 3\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} k^{-2} ?
 
yes it appears so but the bookmark does not seem to work let me reload
 
yo'
@JoeStavitsky then just keep it in the standard size. That's what all reasonable people do.
 
3:25 PM
yo: really? it just looks odd, that small digit next to that large sigma
 
yo'
@JoeStavitsky No, it does not. Maybe the spacing is a problem; try 3\sum_{\mathclap{k=0}}^{\infty} k^{-2} with \usepackage{mathtools}
and btw, I know this will sound like a bad reason, but note that Don Knuth, the creator of TeX, did not introduce a standard way how to do it, and he has been a professional maths typographer since ever.
 
OK if you say that that size is stnadard then I will leave it, less work for me
 
yo'
@JoeStavitsky glad to hear that :)
 
yes knuth is canonized before death - he wrote better things about iraq than anyone else ever
 
yo'
@JoeStavitsky I lost you now I think
 
3:32 PM
how so?
 
yo'
@JoeStavitsky What does Iraq have to do with DEK?
 
yo'
@JoeStavitsky ah, thanks
 
yea when technical people have no ethical training they are the worst (shockley, von braun) but when they have ethical training they are the best
 
yo'
3:50 PM
@Paulo vv
 
@yo' oooh <3
 
yo'
@PauloCereda :)
 
4:46 PM
@yo' I'm disappointed you didn't suggest $\vcenter{\hbox{\Huge\textcolor{red}{3}}}\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} k^{-2}$
@yo' dinner!
 
@DavidCarlisle Basic math approximation? Why not going with the real glyph? :P
 
@egreg what pdflatex font has an open e ?
 
@DavidCarlisle That's the Greek epsilon, being the name of a star. So just use the Greek font by Claudio.
@DavidCarlisle If the BibTeX entry suggested by the site is wrong, they're at fault.
 
@egreg yes well I answered the question originally before I looked at the reference where it's pretty clearly supposed to be an epsilon, but isn't:-) As I noted later in comments it should be an epsilon in which case the question as posed doesn't apply:-)
@egreg Not only the bibtex it's in the page title and running text, but as presumably it's OCR'ed from the 1937 paper such distinctions are a bit arbitrary...
 
4:57 PM
@Johannes_B given the standard of the questions if you scroll down, he was doing well to answer at all.
 
@DavidCarlisle You are right :-)
@DavidCarlisle There are so many users stating the template is beautiful. I see the titlepage and almost gag because i find it very ugly.
 
@Johannes_B Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's possible that not everyone approves of my mathematical typesetting a dozen or so lines up. They are wrong of course.
 
5:15 PM
@Johannes_B Are you referring to the uneven margins for binding? Oh, dear me!
 
@egreg No, the answer to: Why do i have to change a class file?
 
5:58 PM
(For the caption styles, you should be able to do a general search on “LaTeX figure caption style” and get some results back referring to the “caption” package. See CTAN for more info on this package here: ctan.org/pkg/caption. This might be a route to try.)[sunilpatel.co.uk/thesis-template/template-feedback/…
@DavidCarlisle @egreg @barbarabeeton Wow, the author does not know that the class file sets up the small caps by using package caption.
 
6:59 PM
if I put miktex on another system is there a nice way to copy all my packages?
 
@JoeStavitsky -- if both systems have usb ports, you could upload the files to a usb drive from the source machine, convey the drive to the other machine, and download. depending how they're "recognized" by the original miktex system, you may have to update the filename database.
 
Quick Answer: One folder for all images or subfolders per chapter? My master dissertation images folder is over 100 files and i'm starting to get confuse
 
@barbarabeeton - right which files?
 
@JoeStavitsky -- "all my packages" as asked. of course, you don't want to replace a newer package by an older one, so you may want to make a list and check for duplicates before you actually load the usb drive.
 
yo'
7:54 PM
@DavidCarlisle oh no!
 
 
2 hours later…
9:40 PM
@ChristianHupfer floatrow's a long story:-)
@G.Bay makes no difference to tex, so do whichever is least confusing to you.
 
@DavidCarlisle Apparently... I've never used it so far. I've encountered it here occasionally. Who invented that 'punishment' in form of a package? ;-)
 
@DavidCarlisle hehe, yeah, i just figureout I would have to add more files to my graphicspath
 
@G.Bay I wouldn't use \graphicspath myself just have .// in your TEXINPUTS and all tex and image files in any folder below your working directory will be found
 
@DavidCarlisle What do you mean by ".//" ? Would this work for subfile too? sounds much simpler
 
@ChristianHupfer story started with the contact address in the package having an email address referencing a country that no longer exists, so it took some months to find a contact that actually worked:-)
@G.Bay TEXINPUTS=.//: as an environment variable or setting in texmf.cnf says to search all directories below the current one to any depth then search all the standard places
 
9:47 PM
@DavidCarlisle A country that doesn't exist any longer??? Sovietunion? Yugoslavia? Eastern Germany? ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer .su
 
@ChristianHupfer The name has changed, but the people are still there ;-)
 
@Johannes_B but with different email addresses:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle: I see -- the code must have been/be really old then
 
@ChristianHupfer not as old as say longtable
 
9:52 PM
@Johannes_B If you don't know that the author comes from Ukraine or Russia or Belo-Russia it's not essay to figure out the mail address ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer and some people change jobs and addresses even without political change.
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah, longtable -- the code Moses already scratched into stone tables :-P
 
@ChristianHupfer No they'd be floating tables
 
OSFONTDIR = $SystemRoot/fonts//
TEXINPUTS=.//
Thats how it's suppose to look like? think i'm missing something
 
@DavidCarlisle I wonder if anybody in the fomer GDR had an email address.
 
9:55 PM
@DavidCarlisle :D :D
 
@G.Bay a colon at the end would be good, otherwise it'll only look there and won't find the standard files
@G.Bay is that environment variables or texmf.cnf ?
 
@DavidCarlisle thats texmf.cnf
 
@G.Bay ah then you've overwritten the standard path probably, hang on...
 
I'm reading an answer from you
 
@Johannes_B According to Wikipedia the .dd address wasn't available outside of DDR ... what a shock ;-) Only the universities of Jena and Dresden had the net -- probably staff there had mail addresses too then
 
9:57 PM
Sorry, but i gotta say it: I like the old stuff Shakira did. :-)
 
@G.Bay your existing file probably has TEXINPUTS.latex = .;$TEXMF/tex/{latex,generic,}// replacing . by .// would make it search subdirectories
 
@ChristianHupfer link? ok, found it
 
.dd war die geplante länderspezifische Top-Level-Domain (ccTLD) der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik. Da zur Zeit der Einführung der Top-Level-Domains die DDR noch existierte, war auch eine Top-Level-Domain .dd für sie vorgesehen, analog zur westdeutschen .de. Jedoch wurde diese Domain nur intern in den Netzen der Universitäten Jena und Dresden verwendet – von außen war die DDR zu keinem Zeitpunkt über eine .dd-Adresse erreichbar. Grund dafür war, dass .dd nie im öffentlichen Domain Name System delegiert wurde. Nach der Wiedervereinigung Deutschlands wurden die Pläne zur Einführung von .dd...
 
@DavidCarlisle It doesn't, maybe i'm looking at wrong directory :(
 
@ChristianHupfer thanks :-)
 
10:00 PM
I'm on C:\texlive\2014
 
@Johannes_B: We will be visiting CERN (where www was founded) in July 2016 -- Although I am a Physicist I've not been there so far
 
@ChristianHupfer Klassenfahrt? I wanna be in your class.
 
@Johannes_B Well, one - day - excursion of our 12er - Physics courses -- it's about 5 hours to drive with the bus
 
@ChristianHupfer Back in the days, we mae a journey to the Sinsheim museum.
Stuck in traffic for hours, arrived and had almost an hour left till closing. :-(
 
@Johannes_B Ah, that's about 2 hours from here... I've not been there so far, but I pass it occassionally ;-)
@Johannes_B Was that long time before the Concorde planes where exhibited there?
 
10:10 PM
@ChristianHupfer can't remember
 
@Johannes_B The A6 divides the museum from the stadium of Hoffenheim -- two 'attractive' places in one place ;-) Don't drive on the A6 on Saturday afternoon
 
yo'
@ChristianHupfer haha, I will, probably do so on Saturday January 30 :-)
 
@yo' On your way to... Prague? Paris? Unless there is no football match it should be ok then
 
yo'
@ChristianHupfer to Paris, to my PhD defense :-)
I just realized that A6 is really connecting Czechia with France; you only use a piece of A61 close to Mannheim
 
@yo': You've got luck: Hoffenheim has its match in Munich the day before -- no traffic jam on the A6 on the 30th of January!
 
yo'
10:18 PM
@ChristianHupfer well, I could choose another route, ifneedbe
 
@yo' Good luck :-)
 
yo'
@Johannes_B thanks. Well, Google says it's >10 hours, some people make it in 5 hours, let's see where I fit in :-)
 
@yo' Five hours? Better take your time or defending your thesis is the least of your problems.
 
@yo' What's the distance? About 1000 km?
 
yo'
@ChristianHupfer like that, yeah
 
10:21 PM
@yo' Awful -- I hate driving such distances ... You should make your defense via Skype ;-)
 
yo'
@ChristianHupfer I could fly, but the PhD party is obligatory, and I decided to bring in a lot of Czech stuff :-)
 
@yo' Ah, Beer! :D
 
yo'
@ChristianHupfer that, too
 
@yo' alcohol? ;-)
 
yo'
@Johannes_B that, too :-)
 
10:24 PM
@yo' too :-P
 
yo'
@ChristianHupfer it won't be only alcohol. I'll bring also some cakes, Chirstmas sweets, meatloaf, Czech bread, Kofola, etc.
 
10:42 PM
@yo' Sorry, I just wanted to mock you ;-) Of course there are other Czech Goodies!
 

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