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user114359
2:18 AM
Guys, where did the moon go? I'M SCARED PLEASE HOLD ME.
 
user15026
Don’t panic. But if the moon outside right now has a FACE … we might be in trouble. #SuperBloodMoon #LunarEclipse http://t.co/xdSHaiIse9
 
user114359
@AshleyNunn ha, I love it. The only face I was concerned about is my wife's, but she is sound asleep and when I told her to step outside the door and look up, she just kept snoring.
 
user15026
We had too many clouds for me to see anything
 
user114359
Cloudy here too, but enough openings in between to see the (partial) moon every half hour or so
 
user55340
The Codeless Code, Case 207: Parrot
 
user114359
2:34 AM
...and there are now so many clouds I can barely see my neighbor's house 20 feet away, let alone the moon 1,261,000,000 feet away.
 
user114359
I blame Haskell for this.
 
user55340
 
user114359
@MichaelT Also Norway, and Monty Python has a few words to say about them, too.
 
user114359
What do you mean coffee in excess isn't good for you? sip twitchDoresoom Aug 10 '10 at 13:29
 
7:12 AM
interesting question, but ask it on programmers.stackexchange.comTouffy 3 mins ago
@Touffy: please note that Programmers is also not appropriate for career advice: programmers.stackexchange.com/help/on-topicQantas 94 Heavy 56 secs ago
 
 
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8:55 AM
Sounds more like a question for programmers.stackexchange.com to me. — Uwe Keim 52 secs ago
 
9:11 AM
It looks like this question is about architecture, and belongs to programmers.stackexchange.comAlexander 35 secs ago
 
 
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12:23 PM
Happy Coffee Day
@MichaelT spectacular. If only I could use Haskell at work..
 
 
1 hour later…
1:28 PM
Head's up. Tomorrow is National Coffee Day.
 
@ThomasOwens Head's up. Every day is Coffee Day.
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@JimmyHoffa Yes. But National Coffee Day is different than Coffee Day.
It's like having two Coffee Days in one day!
Maybe three. I don't know. But it's more than Coffee Day.
 
@ThomasOwens Coffee Day ++? No, I disagree. Coffee Day is the maximal incarnation of itself. If you are not using Every Day as Coffee Day in the most superlative sense of it's embodiment, you're just misunderstanding the whole concept to begin with. Coffee Day is the unbounded truth. It cannot be contained in a single day, nor is it more Coffee Day one day of the year; nay. It is the most Coffee Day, Every Day. Anything less is heresy.
 
@JimmyHoffa Maybe it's more like when your birthday and Christmas fall on the same day.
But not with Christmas. Since if you were born on Christmas, Christmas would be your birthday every year.
Some holiday that traditionally involves gift giving that moves around so it doesn't happen on your birthday every year. But then one year, they happen together. And it's more epic.
 
@ThomasOwens Neither of these are accurate analogies to Coffee Day, no no. Every Day is Coffee Day, even your birthday, and christmas. The fact that some days are Christmas or your birthday are inconsequential; the fact that those days are Coffee Day; now this is something of substance. Something that matters. Yes.
 
1:34 PM
@JimmyHoffa Of course your birthday and Christmas are Coffee Day. But isn't National Coffee Day falling on Coffee Day the same as your birthday falling on...Easter?
You get more things to celebrate.
 
@ThomasOwens there is not more things to celebrate than Coffee.
 
today is tea day for me. tea and honey... woooo
 
@enderland don't forget the lemon... I've a sore throat, I could appreciate that..
 
@JimmyHoffa I'm dumping honey into this tea, which is wonderful! :)
 
@enderland honey goes great in Coffee as well, that's how I grew up with it. Learned a high quality pure maple syrup actually works as well for a bit of a different flavor for either Coffee or Tea
not that log cabin crap though, it has to have the earthy maple flavor otherwise it'll just taste like you lost a pancake in your drink
 
user55340
1:43 PM
2
Q: Why is .NET VM based?

Aviv CohnJava has been designed to run on a virtual machine to allow portability for programs. However .NET has been designed from the start specifically for Windows. Than what is the reason for .NET applications being compiled to bytecode for the CLR? Was it simply to copy Java? Or is there a technica...

 
user55340
If you rephrase your initial statement to "Java uses a virtual machine architecture to lower the costs of creating portable programs", does your question about the CLR answer itself? — Eric Lippert 1 min ago
 
@JimmyHoffa I've never put honey in coffee, I bet that'd be good
 
@enderland it is, changes the flavor but it's quite good
@durron597 about that listing; my boss is back in the office from PTO either today or tomorrow and I'll try and get it then. Googling does me a shit lot of good becuase like every company, the people managing listings and non-tech resources never think about the technical staff so only the people jobs are listed on the site.. To be sure I know we want a Java person in the office - and I know my boss is trying for Sr. but what it would take to pass the bar iduno..
 
yes
:P
 
1:59 PM
@GlenH7 they just liked 5s 7s and 1s, wanted to see how many they could fit in. Alternatively, markov chains are now generating entire resumes.
 
user41796
And their masters work isn't even at an accredited university...
 
hi people
 
@GlenH7 Barbie Univerisity is a serious institution, I'm tired of people not taking the Mattel sponsored trainings seriously.
@Ravi_SS I AM A ROBOT
 
user41796
Okay, I'm wrong. It is an accredited university
 
user41796
But I'm very comfortable saying it's not a powerhouse CS institution.
 
user41796
2:08 PM
@durron597 - How was Vegas?
 
2:22 PM
@GlenH7 i had a lot of fun but I remember why I quit poker.
@JimmyHoffa Well send it to me anyway. I'll give you my email in the next (removed) message
 
user41796
@durron597 Hopefully you didn't fleece the tourists too badly
 
@GlenH7 nah I got fleeced
 
user41796
That's a bummer
 
user41796
Yet another reason why I've stuck with craps when I've played. :-)
 
KK vs AJ on J high flop, AQ vs QJ allin preflop, 74 vs 97 on 865 flop for a $1000 pot...
 
user41796
2:26 PM
ouch
 
user41796
Would've been sweet if you had won that though
 
tons of missed flush draws and tons of opponents hitting theirs
 
RNG fail?
 
I think this is a good question, but I feel like this would be a better topic for programmers.stackexchange.com since it's about a general programming problem (rate-limiting and caching) and not a specific problem with your code. — Jason P 35 secs ago
 
i definitely made mistakes too, don't get me wrong, but it's really hard to win when you constantly get coolered and/or bad beat in huge pots.
one of the worst players i've ever played with made quads twice in three hours, then i saw him the next day and he told me he got them three more times after i went to bed
 
2:30 PM
@durron597 I get that there's odds playing and skill involved and all that, but really.. everytime I play any poker I feel it's exactly as you describe occurred to you there; but I guess that's what everyone who's terrible feels like about it. Either way, I just stay away from games of skill that involve the chance of losing my money to a shuffle
 
@JimmyHoffa The way pros discuss it with other pros is this: if there weren't loads of luck in the game, there'd be no fish. it would be chess
every. single. pro. loses often.
they just win in the long run
 
@durron597 yeah, sounds too stressful for me. I'm rather risk averse on the whole I s'pose.
 
this means you lose 23% of the time. Which means you will make money in the long run, but 1/4 your up shit's creek. Happens.
 
gambling is a lot more enjoyable too if you treat it as an expense that occasionally wins money
if you are willing to write off the money entirely then it's more fun
 
user41796
That's how I've always approached it - it's "mad money" that is meant for entertainment
 
2:36 PM
Here's a more interesting hand. button (really really bad player) open limps, i call small blind with T2s bb checks, flop T62 with two diamonds, I bet $5 into $9 pot, bb folds, fish makes it 15, i make it 50, he calls
turn 6 (ughhhhhhhhh) check check
 
@enderland gambling is more enjoyable when you're using someone else's money.
 
river Kd.
the ten is a diamond, so either he raised the flop with a bare flush draw or we're chopping now
 
I see where this is going... :P
 
(he doesn't have AT, we would have raised preflop)
 
@enderland must just be my nature; I don't find spending money fun. My wife hates shopping and not buying; spending time looking at things and then deciding which ones you like/want followed by not actually getting it. I enjoy that way more than actually buying the things, whatever they may be. The vicarious owning involved in shopping is truly more enjoyable than the actual thing in nearly all cases
 
2:37 PM
@JimmyHoffa I like spending money [on my retirement/investment accounts] ;)
 
the mistake is that I thought it was very unlikely this particular player would raise the flop with a bare flush draw, so I bet big to try to blow him off a chop and he shoves with uncontained glee
 
@durron597 is that a mistake? If your logic isn't flawed then it was just bad luck and not a mistake. Bad luck with money on the line stinks :/
 
playing with complete idiots results in that sort of thing more often then playing with decent or good people
 
my logic was flawed, because i forgot to account for the fact that my flop bet was so small and the pot was so small then that he very much might raise. but if I had bet 15 and he raised then i know he doesn't have a flush draw.
Anyway, @JimmyHoffa I agree that it just got too stressful for me to continue doing it, that's why I went back into programming
 
@MetaFight ToasterPoint: Keep your toaster settings schedule documents available across all the toasters you use!
 
2:46 PM
I ended up leaving down about $1000, which is better than the down $1800 i was down at one point.
 
@durron597 I'm sure lots have the personality for it, good on them. I couldn't do it. Though honestly, after working on horse-race gambling software previously; I have given genuine thought to the idea of horse race gambling... that's a whole different kind of animal, having seen the money the professionals pull in, it's absolutely bonkers.
 
I can keep talking about hands if y'all find this interesting.
 
user41796
@durron597 I somewhat struggle following all of the lingo, but can appreciate the thrill of running each hand
 
Now that I no longer work there I suppose I can speak more freely on the topic... but horse race gambling may be a thing of a bygone era, but people are still making feckin' oodles of money off it. And the more I learned about it the more it seemed pretty damned easy. We hired one guy to our team and he did some gambling on it just to get an idea of the business model; tiny bets with an account of $100. After 2 months he'd made like $500 just piddling with it having no experience prior.
 
@GlenH7 i'm happy to answer any questions.
@JimmyHoffa small sample size?
 
2:49 PM
Nicht Verstanden
 
@JimmyHoffa the big problem that all players at all skill levels have in games of chance
is that the rewards don't match results
for example, i got KK allin on J high flop with AJ
I would do it again and again and again
but, a bad player playing that hand might think: "okay, i lost my money. next time i have KK on J high flop, i want to wait for the river so i can fold when the J comes on the turn"
in reality, next time you are against 98 on J76 and you check it down and you make nothing, and the guy folds the river.
(for example).
or, you are against QQ, and the J comes on the turn and he bets thinking his queens are good, and you muck "because the J came"
in your horse racing example, maybe the guy won $500, maybe it was skill or maybe it was luck
 
The thing about horse race betting is it's not about the draw, there's a lot more predictability in a way, but beyond the predictability there's tons of strategy in the betting which is what it's all about. You can bet so many different ways to hedge yourself. You have the odds of winning, the probable payouts based on well known pools (unless you're doing exchange gambling which is much more like stock investing truly), and you mix'n'match your bets to alter your probable winnings vs odds
@durron597 likely it was luck, but at the same time there are various types of bets you can make that have really good odds of winning, your winnings just go down as you increase your odds. But depending on how you do it the whole point is to maximize the probable payout and odds of winning
I mean hell, you can bet for every horse to win, and you will win, you'll just come out having won nothing and lost the cost of overhead in the transaction. If you bet on all but one horse to win, depending on the pools you're almost guaranteed to make a pittance of something except those times when that one you didn't bet on won.
I've never bet on the horses, but the strategies in it are just interesting to see. You can bet on the placement of horses depending on what the track you bet on supports up to every horses place, reducing the odds of winning the bet significantly but the winnings go through the roof. People put down $2 bets guessing places 1-5 and win $100k type of stuff. The pros were making millions a year.
 
@JimmyHoffa that doesn't make any sense
the sportsbook decides the lines based on ensuring that they will always make money no matter who wins
 
@durron597 you misunderstand what "the sportsbook" entails in this scenario, sportsbooks are illegal, legalized horse gambling is an international pool and that's the "overhead" I refer to. Everyone who has contributed to the technology et al and who'se a part of the transaction (the pool calculator company, the track itself, the horses/owners, the bet-taker) take a percent of the pool - but it's a tiny percent because there's millions of dollars in each pool and each race has countless pools...
That's the "overhead" I referred to that you lose in the transaction
 
@JimmyHoffa i have very little experience with betting on horses, i know a lot more about pretty much every other form of gambling.
 
3:03 PM
You bet $2 on 5 horses in a 5-horse race and win $10 but the overhead turns it into $9.50 for example, so it was a pointless bet, but what the "book" takes from each individual is small because the number of individuals is massive
 
There was a guy ages ago who claimed to have a working system for winning horse races... I even bought it, but I never did anything with it.
Yes, it was probably shite.
@BenAaronson This is just what we need. A formalized, sanctioned way to ask "best practice" questions. — Robert Harvey 6 mins ago
 
@durron597 aye, it's interesting though, you should look at it. Exchange betting is even crazier- it's literally like stock market investing. You make lay bets which is against or for bets and then you can trade those bets around to make a profit before the race even won based on how the odds change over the run-up to the race altering the value of the bet you made (even during the race!).
 
user41796
@RobertHarvey Nice. I had a candidate drop that phrase a few too many times during an interview. "Thanks for letting me know you're a zombie."
 
You bet $5 a horse will lose with odds of 1/1 and now you have a bet that says if the horse wins you owe $5, if it loses you make $5. Now a ton of people bet it will lose and the odds of it losing go up - 2 / 1, now other people are having to pay out $10 if it wins and make $5 if it loses. Now you can sell your bet for $7 because that's cheaper than the $10 risk people would have to make. People make 100 lay-bets like that, then sell all 100 for $7 each 15 minutes later after odds shifted
^-- exchange betting is nuts. There's realtime charting involved just like in markets.
Lots of APIs out there for the public to write automated bots against as well. They just charge a percent of winnings usually, or per transaction depending. Tons of bots already made you can buy/download and tweak/program your strategies to.
 
@JimmyHoffa `what in the F....
 
3:13 PM
True story.
 
that likely would have been my reaction too
 
"so you are using our technology better than anyone else, what is your secret?"
"I quit"
:D
 
@Ampt right. What's he need them for anymore, he could just put his algorithm up on a competitors API and watch it roll in.
 
@enderland depends on when he was working on it - if on company time, they have a serious claim to the IP
if it was on his own time, they can get bent
anyone can own a server rack, few can come up with fancy math to do fancy things
idk where I was going with that last part... .need coffee
 
@Ampt this was in europe, IP claims are way weaker there. Also it was likely more of a GTFO but I'm sure he was crying all the way to the bank.
 
3:20 PM
what the heck, someone at my company has an apostrophe in their email address
 
so in conclusion, as risk averse as I am, I still ponder gambling on the horses... @durron597 you should read about the betting strategies a bit sometime for it just as a curiosity you may find it very interesting as you like financial arbitrage and games of chance. Read about what key and key box bets are for instance.
 
sounds like the stock market has invaded the betting halls
 
user41796
The futures market is little more than legalized gambling.
 
@ratchetfreak exchange betting has been around a long long time, the technology we have these days is the only thing that gives it the ability to behave like markets. The irony is it makes you realize how much markets truly are quite literal gambling when gambling itself can be made into a market.
but that's exchange betting, when you're talking about books you're talking about parimutual betting which is all about odds and probables. None of that handing out IOU notes while the market decides their value so you can buy and sell them like in the exchange. Parimutual, you make various bets - always for - and once you make them they're set. Though you may bet at different times to get different odds. For instance if you think the morning line odds are shit you may wait for 5 minutes to post
actually I take that part back about being set, you can cancel bets up to stewards key
 
3:40 PM
as soon as the bets are transferable privately at low overhead cost then a market can develop for the bets with people offering a bet at below cost for the current odd
 
@ratchetfreak exactly. Exchange betting is the simple classic betting of "I'll bet you $5 this horse will win" - "You're on!", now you have effectively, as @GlenH7 said, a future with me. Now you can do all the things futures markets do. Parimutual is where you're looking at bookies who run the numbers to ensure they get a cut off everyone who booked a bet with them
 
4:08 PM
@enderland is that even legal?
Selling bets after the lines move seem like a much better way to make money to me
I'm surprised that the book would allow you to do that.
 
psr
@JimmyHoffa Oh, but you could. Just start using PureScript. Only check the transpiled code into source control. No one will ever know. It's all so simple really. Just drink a few more cups of coffee and it will all seem quite reasonable. Necessary, even.
 
@durron597 I have no idea but it's annoying as heck since I can't use it as part of a string since this progrmaming language is terribad
 
180
Q: What characters are allowed in email address?

WildWezyrI'm not asking about full email validation. I just want to know what are allowed characters in user-name and server parts of email address. This may be oversimplified, maybe email adresses can take other forms, but I don't care. I'm asking about only this simple form: user-name@server (e.g. wild...

(yes, apostrophes are allowed).
 
@psr yes...necessary... There are no other choices..
 
Why isn't there a standard for incremental backup?
 
4:27 PM
@user193661 you mean loading up your trunk with tapes isn't standard?
 
@enderland classic pitfall. We had the same problem. The previous developer's "clever" regex (a while he reinvented based on a series of reinvented wheels) was, to absolutely nobody's surprise, insufficient.
 
You don't like incremental backup? What's your alternative?
 
wow, I can't write.
 
4:50 PM
@MetaFight have you tried changing the way you hold the pen? Sometimes I think I can't write, then I realize the pen's upside down. Just a little tip.
@user193661 the alternator's doing fine in my car, I'm not worried.
Jan 5 '13 at 4:47, by Jimmy Hoffa
I'm helping :D
^-- over two years later, and I still am. Aren't you all so lucky.
 
Yes
 
@JimmyHoffa woop. Well consarn it, it worked! You learn something new everyday.
Well, in my case it was just a matter of closing my hand :|
^^ not how you do it.
 
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A: If "Problem" and "Help" are to be blocked on Stack Overflow question titles, block them here too

Robert HarveyPlease don't. It's implementation at Stack Overflow causes all manner of side effects, including "pr0blem," "Halp," and "Knapsack Issue." In addition, unlike many other behaviors, this one isn't overridable by moderators, so its's forced on people unconditionally. SE seems especially enamored ...

 
@MetaFight those old school pens were terrible
 
5:03 PM
They were good for writing CIL.
 
5:16 PM
@MetaFight psha, wooden pens are Amish crap, right up their with ball mice and 2d monitors.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NILFS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versioning_file_system
https://code.google.com/p/lsyncd/
 
5:38 PM
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A: Windows backup with support for incremental binary backup

Axel KemperNo real answer but some thoughts: To do an in-place update of some remote copy of your file, you have to first find out which parts of the file have changed or have been added since the last copy. One could maintain a list of checksums for chunks of n megabytes. Without such a list, you have to ...

That answer is the most insight I've gotten. Keeping a list of block checksums
For database use case
 
there are kitties jumping around in boxes behind my code.. Oh this is just spectacular.
 
6:06 PM
@ThomasOwens I just realized that you posted a question on Workplace like 3 years ago I answered months after you posted (I just randomly got an upvote from it)
 
What question?
 
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Q: Does 5S make sense in an office environment?

Thomas Owens5S is a methodology for organizing a workplace that centers on 5 concepts: Sorting: Eliminate all unnecessary tools, parts, and instructions. Anything that is not required for the current work should be stored in a designated area or discarded. Stabilizing / Straightening: Everything should hav...

when I saw it, all the existing answers were lackluster
 
maybe programmers.stackexchange.com is a better place to ask this. — toskv 44 secs ago
 
6:36 PM
@JimmyHoffa what are you doing?
 
@Ixrec spacemacs has a transparency setting I flipped and I have this fullscreened behind it
 
lol
 
everytime I type data-bind= I just presume I'm binding my HTML controls to cats in boxes.
This is going to be the worst and best web app ever.
 
there's one team at work that managed to come up with cat-related acronyms for half the products they work on
 
6:54 PM
@MichaelT Nice, you gave essentially the same custom close reason as me within the same minute
 
> FIIIIIREEEE!!!
 
user55340
Six same day deletes on questions I cast a close vote so far today.
 
7:21 PM
@MichaelT My latest build of my jar seems unable to load SLF4J and I can't figure out why
I changed almost nothing.
 
user55340
(tm)
 
SLF4J: Failed to load class "org.slf4j.impl.StaticLoggerBinder".
SLF4J: Defaulting to no-operation (NOP) logger implementation
SLF4J: See slf4j.org/codes.html#StaticLoggerBinder for further details.
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ch/qos/logback/core/joran/spi/JoranException
        at my.main.klass.MainClass.main(MainClass.java:40)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: ch.qos.logback.core.joran.spi.JoranException
        at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:366)
I did muck around with other dependencies but not this one.
the manifest file looks correct.
 
user55340
Class loader seems to be less than happy. Alternatively something else was pulling on the right slf4j dependence.
 
there are no other slf4j implementations in my classpath folder
i see lib/logback-classic-1.1.3.jar lib/logback-core-1.1.3.jar and lib/slf4j-api-1.7.7.jar in my Class-Path in the manifest.
and the lib directory does contain those files
man i'm completely stumped and it's 2:30 and I still haven't eaten. gonna go feed myself and try again when less hungry.
 
user55340
Do you have a maven dependency mediation issue? Are you declaring it soon enough? Is another lib using the wrong slf4j version before yours is?
 
user55340
7:38 PM
Note that 1.7.7 is 1.5 years old. Log back 1.1.3 is a year more recent.
 
user55340
Try 1.7.12.
 
user55340
Because of the tighter coupling there between log back as a native implementation of slf4j you may have had an expected class missing.
 
8:04 PM
@MichaelT yeah but logback-parent depends on 1.7.7
 
I just voted to migrate something to SO purely to fill out every close vote reason since all the others were already there.
 
@JimmyHoffa lol
VFABIC
 
8:20 PM
@MichaelT Okay i put a really early System.exit(0); and removed almost all the other code
it's still happening, but the program runs fine in eclipse.
 
user55340
Different class loafer.
 
user55340
And I'm going to let that autocorrect stay.
 
user55340
Spin it down to a one or two import pom, a 10 line class, and you've got yourself a mcve.
 
@MichaelT a full dime loafer; not just a grubby penny loafer?
 
@MichaelT there's only one classloader... i'm just going to try removing one dependency at a time until it works
 
8:25 PM
@MichaelT everytime I see pom files or anything related to it I just think java programmers code with pomegranates
 
user55340
Or pom-poms?
 
user55340
Cheerleaders in China for programmers: hngn.com/articles/122570/20150825/… (and if you prefer the other way, dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3236559/… ... Um. Yea. )
 
@MichaelT the fact that java coders are a bunch of cheerleaders is nothing new....ooo I love this part, the one cat's about to sniff the other cat's paw for a solid 15 seconds like it's amazing...ahh this is definitely the way to keep coding from raising your blood pressure
 
user55340
Hmm. Spreadsheets are functional at their heart. New challenge- write scip for excel macros.
 
@MichaelT I moused over the second link to try and see if it would be NSFW, but the URI has a combination of elements I cannot phathom the meaning of.
...so, is it NSFW? Because now I'm really curious wth it is
 
user55340
8:32 PM
> One entrepreneurial Japanese firm has come up with a bizarre way to help businesswomen dealing with stressful city lives and suffering sexist abuse in the workplace to cope when it all becomes too much.

From Monday, women in Tokyo will be able to pay £40 for a 'cute man' carrying super-soft tissues and handkerchiefs to visit her.
 
haha so what I'm reading there is: "Sexism got you down? We'll treat you like a little girl to make you feel all better!"
 
user55340
Yep.
 
user55340
@ThomasOwens you know there is a HNQ for the workplace there that @enderland can answer.
 
Yeah. Hmm...
 
user55340
8:36 PM
"How do I go about getting a security clearance for my tear wiping employees so they can work with women in higher pressure jobs?"
 
10:05 PM
@MichaelT I want to cry
I spent half a day messing around with stuff and ultimately i got it to work by rolling logback back to 1.1.2
I still have no idea why anything broke or why that fixed anything.
the sick thing is that IT WORKS IN ECLIPSE WITH 1.1.3
 
user55340
I blame eclipse.
 
user55340
Side bit. Got mail from jet brains. They're going to have a fallback perpetual license. Have a subscription with 12 months of coverage for a release, and you get a perpetual license for that release.
 
user55340
> If paying on a monthly basis, as soon as you pay for 12 consecutive months, you will receive this perpetual fallback license providing you with access to the exact product version for when your 12 consecutive months subscription started. You will receive perpetual fallback licenses for every version you’ve paid 12 consecutive months for.
 
user55340
 
@admdrew This is not the first question that asks an explanation about real-life examples. I have seen plenty that even became community-owned questions and protected. I wonder why this is off-topic. Nevertheless, if this is off-topic, could this questions please be kindly moved on programmers.SO? Thank you. — GiamPy 20 secs ago
 

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