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1:15 AM
Thank you for the tips @JamesLupolt and @PaulWhite! You've given me enough information to determine that I don't know what I'm talking about and have a lot to learn. I knew that, but I'm just reassured now that there's no obvious concept I'm missing.
Don't want to reinvent the wheel.
 
Welcome.
 
 
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8:57 AM
hi
I can't believe people are still suggesting this
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A: Shrinking the log file does not reduce size

mecoolMy work around for the Replication that is blocking shrinking log file is: 1. Set DB Recovery Model to Simple 2. Take DB offline 3. Create backup of log file (just in case) 4. Delete log file 5. Bring DB online In my case it worked. After bringing DB online log was created automatically and it's...

 
9:19 AM
but it is only a workaround
and it might keep you busy for a while
 
9:39 AM
@Vérace heh, I used to treat those guys myself, too
the best were the roller strains
 
 
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11:44 AM
@PaulWhite you are such an altruist
 
yes and no
 
@dezso Well I don't need the rep. Seems like the most productive thing to do with it.
Serves me right for venturing onto meta :)
 
@PaulWhite What exactly did it do to you?
 
@PaulWhite UVd the latter, it is definitely not a bad idea
some honing might be needed
 
11:50 AM
Oh, I hadn't read the question, now I see.
 
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Q: Please increase (or remove) the limit on concurrent bounties for moderators

Paul WhiteOne of the tools moderators have available to encourage and reward high-quality participation (and beneficial behaviours in general) is to set and award bounties. For example, in addition to their standard uses of drawing attention and rewarding model answers, I use bounties on Database Administ...

It might be a terrible idea. I doubt it will get any traction from TPTB, but I thought I'd ask to see what the reaction would be. People missed the point, I think. Or, I'm insane. Or both.
Don't upvote just because you feel sorry for me :)
I'll get the job done eventually with 3 bounties max, it's just a bit frustrating, and I can't for the life of me think why it should apply.
 
-7!! Do you get some sort of badge or something for that?
 
@MichaelGreen You'd think eh :(
 
TPTB seem to be of the opinion that moderators should just be moderating and that any sort of encouragement/stimulation type of activity should be broader.
 
@MichaelGreen if he removes it, possibly
 
11:54 AM
@MichaelGreen Can't even delete it to earn Peer Pressure because it is answered.
Not sure I would anyway, meta points mean less than unicorn points.
 
@PaulWhite bribe @bluefeet, she could possibly remove the answer ;)
 
@Colin'tHart They might be right. But there's not that much actual modding (in the traditional sense) to do on dba because everyone's so well behaved and the posts are much better average quality than ahem some other sites.
Besides, I stood for election on a definite platform so I'm going to do everything I can to live up to that. Mistakes will be made, natch.
@dezso I don't care enough honesty. It's only meta :)
 
@PaulWhite What if we all DV the answers, the posters delete them, you delete the question, Peer Pressure all round FTW!
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@MichaelGreen LOL!
Because my life is all about earning a bronze badge on meta ;)
Out own meta is more important anyway.
 
@PaulWhite then ask a bad question there, we would be happy to DV
 
12:03 PM
@dezso You're too kind. I shall bear that in mind.
user dezso is chat banned for 365 days
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It's what friends are for.
 
I can feel the love.
Next up on the bounty award train: regulars on here that don't answer as much as they should.
 
Guilty.
 
@Colin'tHart I understand (I think) some of the reasons why the problem exists, just thinking of a good way to encourage people out of their shells a bit.
 
@PaulWhite that would greatly improve my productivity
 
12:12 PM
@dezso Not as much as @swasheck. He has far and away the most chat messages.
You have 6.2k he has 44.8k
 
@PaulWhite but he speaks the language
 
Debatable :)
 
12:28 PM
@dezso my feet can't be bribed
 
 
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2:51 PM
Where is @mmarie when she is needed?
 
3:03 PM
You know how flakey those Bi folks can be.
 
@Zane are there crickets in BI?
 
3:35 PM
Because documentation is questionable
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Q: Warlords of Documentation: A Proposed Expansion of Stack Overflow

Kevin MontroseIt’s been 7 years and 10,000,000+ Questions since Stack Overflow was launched. The amount of good that has been done for the field - all the developers helped, all the man-hours saved, all the beginners who grew into professionals - is hard to overstate. I cannot express how proud I am of what ...

 
@dezso Anything I can help with (assuming it's not mdx/dax stuff)?
 
@billinkc you have to post 'crickets'
 
I keep eating 'em
 
that's why it's so sleepy here today
 
crickets
 
3:50 PM
So hungry
 
@bluefeet finally something useful on SO meta
@billinkc me too, therefore I'm going to drink a beer
 
4:42 PM
Someone with VtC on SO, please put this out of its misery (dupe):
 
@PaulWhite Done!
 
Aaand it's done.
Thats my first VtC that closed a question. I'm getting a tear in my eye.
 
@Erik Thanks but it needed a @Zane with 3K close rights, not just a flag :)
@Zane Thanks, @Zane
Oh I hate the close votes system. 3 votes as unclear, 2 votes as dupe.
Muppets. Oh well, what's one more fubar'd situation on SO eh :)
 
lol
maybe the flag coupled with the votes will encourage reviewers to vote to close.....
 
@Erik Too late. It's already closed, just for the wrong reason, which means it won't be merged with the duplicate from here ... long story, not really worth getting into.
 
4:56 PM
@PaulWhite Win some, lose some....
 
Yep. Movin' on...
 
We could reopen it...
 
@PaulWhite if there is anything I can do to help now or in the future at the lowly 1k level just give me a heads up.
 
@Erik Sure thing.
Right I'm off. Have a good Monday afternoon/evening northern hemisphere people.
 
5:12 PM
getdirectus.com you folks seen this yet?
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5:23 PM
@jcolebrand If you ever post a mysql related link in here, I'll cut you
 
@billinkc Oy, it's possible that this could be a good tool
You do know that some folks who are not blessed to be us maintain code written by others on legacy platforms, right?
 
Accidents happen. Some days, I forget I'm wearing my magnet laced pants when I do the hokey pokey in the server room
Other days, I just forget the pants all together
 
5:57 PM
I should really start a firm for consultants who refuse to wear pants.
I ordered a package from Amazon that said it would be 5-7 days shipping. It now however says that I won't be here until the 9/21 at the earliest and I bought this two weeks ago.
I know it's coming from China but I didn't think they were having a guy swim over here with it.
^Really dig that article. It's super relevant to some issues I'm running into.
 
6:24 PM
0.0
 
6:36 PM
@AaronBertrand are you around?
Hey @Kermit how's that baby coming along?
 
@Zane still working on setting up replication
 
7:03 PM
Hi All (again)
I suppose most of you have a test lab
our new sysadmin gods are a bit anal about our msdn licenses
and I was wondering what licensing options I have to set up new test servers, apart from my employers msdn account
 
@TomV test lab? yes. sqlfiddle.com
 
@Kermit yeah, especially when you are trying failover clustering and stuff :)
I mean a real test lab, domain controller, client, some versions of SQL etc (in VM's)
 
@TomV run it on a VM on your laptop :)
 
aha yes, but I'm not really fond of pirating and I can't use our msdn licenses freely
and a new trial install every few months seems a lot of work too
 
get a student license
 
7:18 PM
Or Developer Edition.
Has all the features of Enterprise and is only 60 bucks.
 
@Kermit I don't seem to be eligible for student licences
@Zane If I look at a DC and some windows licenses + SQL instances I'm not sure what the final price would be
licensing is hard
I wish I was a postgre admin when it comes to licensing :)
anyway, i wasn't expecting tailored advice, just interested to know how you guys are running your stuff
 
7:37 PM
@TomV Why don't you just get the eval versions?
 
@MikeFal that's my best option so far but that would mean reinstalling every couple of months
 
Install a keylogger on the admins machines
 
@TomV I assume VMs? Just script your lab machine builds.
 
@billinkc that's not even necessary, I got all the passwords for our domain and MSDN account (interim domain admin during holidays), it's just that I don't want to do stuff i'm not supposed to behind their backs
 
Well, why not just ask them if you can use those licenses for a lab?
 
7:43 PM
@MikeFal I could with the previous sysadmin, not with the new sysadmins unfortunately
they just say "ni"
or "no" :)
(I even had to sign in blood not to advertise I got an SSD)
 
Well, sounds like you're up a proverbial creek. Recommend you script out machine builds with eval licenses.
 
@MikeFal anyway, yours is the best suggestion so far, now to get to learn how to script a domain controller setup and some extra vm's
I hope I can use snapshots or images and it doesn't continue the trial counter from the machine I cloned from
 
Powershell is the truth, the way, and the light. There a quite a number of blog posts on setting up those aspects. I'm actually working on refactoring and updating my scripts, should have blog posts up on it over October.
 
colour me interested
 
The base machine builds are 'simple' enough, I actually finished up those scripts yesterday. I just have to now start writing the DSC resources to create my AD controllers and SQL boxes.
 
8:00 PM
It's about to get closed on CR as being "example code", but don't want to recommend here before checking
 
@MikeFal googling seems promising, looking forward to your blog posts and will be doing some tests soon
@MikeFal thanks a lot
 
@Phrancis I'm wondering why the hell they wouldn't just use a MERGE if it's SQL Server?
 
8:16 PM
@MikeFal Looks like it's going to remain open on CR after all. Feel free to jump on there and suggest that. Looks like they have other performance optimization concerns too is why I thought it might fit better on DBA
 
@Phrancis we can't see it now. Was it closed?
 
@Phrancis I think it got moved or closed. 404'd.
 
@MikeFal They may have read Aaron's blog posts about MERGE ;)
 
Oh, wait, there it is.
@ypercube Yeah. You just need to be careful with MERGE, that's all.
 
@MikeFal deleted
 
8:41 PM
@ypercube @MikeFal Deleted by author
 
8:53 PM
licensing is indeed hard
re- conversation above
i am just getting used to how this chat room works
@Zane ha - ok, replying late, but i can't seem to tell if you finally came up with a solution for this, i am struggling with getting msdn licenses and am tempted to just go buy a couple of developer editions and donate them anonymously
 

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