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I'd very much like some vegetables GMO'd to taste like chicken. All the flavour, none of the battery farm business.

This is impressive on so many levels.

cc @GnomeSlice @StrixVaria

@Yuuki that's exactly something i'd be doing

Destiny finally going to use a level system that makes sense

@Rapitor Weird. I actually liked the light system/

Well, I liked parts of it

I hated it, you had little choice on what to use because light chose it for you

2:06 PM

Well, that's because light was basically "item level"

There's always going to be an element of that in rpgs

there was already an item level

I mean item level as in like, the power level of that item

I want an MMORPG without character leveling. Stats and abilities are determined by weapons and armor.

well with this, players without expansions (me) or have never raided because "hurr durr we hate matchmaking"(me again), won't be stuck at low level forever

(Basically, a Monster Hunter MMORPG)

2:07 PM

@Yuuki So, Minecraft.

GnomeSlice

Trove has levelling, but max level is like double that of the max character level

@Rapitor Well, you'll still be behind in terms of item power

@MartinSojka Eh. you still get EXP from killing monsters and mining stuff that you use to enchant items.

GnomeSlice

Gear makes a HUGE difference

And with the exotics and whatnot you can get, that would still be a negative

I feel like this isn't really solving your issue, it's just hiding it

2:09 PM

@Yuuki Sure, but that is relatively easy to farm and you still don't get any new abilities or better stats from it, just better equipment.

@twobugs i don't think so. the armor I have now is very good and has all the buffs I like, stuff like increased pulse rifle stats, but If i wanted to use things with higher light. I'd lose those bonuses

@MartinSojka But that's just it, you can grind easy monsters over and over again.

@Rapitor It's likely they'll do something like they have currently with 'ascending' armor and you won't be able to acquire the materials outside of new content

In Monster Hunter, you can't grind Jaggis (easy mobs) to make Star Knight armor.

And what armor actually increases your weapon power? I'm not familiar with any that do (but I've been out of the Destiny loop for a while)

2:11 PM

In the end, Minecraft provides just a practical example of such a system; there can be others.

@twobugs not power, but reload speed and ammo count. Also buffs like kills with melee increase super(because titan punch for days). or my helmet that gives me a super ability on top of another one of my choosing.

@Yuuki You can't just grind skeletons to get beacon buffs either. :)

@Rapitor All of those can be acquired on other armor and/or ascended with your current armor

I don't really see that as a limitation of the light system

I think it's silly how they tied it into enemy damage reduction (I think you can't even damage an enemy 4 levels above you?) but I understand why they did

I guess my concern is that this might not fix the underlying issues

GnomeSlice

Dark souls can be played without levelling

But most of the gear doesn't provide additional stats besides dmg or armor

Rings do

And some have special effects

@twobugs I think the light system's problem was it made gear too much focus on upgrading, instead of sidegrading

2:16 PM

Destiny's setting looked like an awesome vehicle for a territory control game spanning the whole solar system. Instead we got ... what it is now.

also farming the same mission for days hoping to get the drop of highest light

Private Pansy

@Rapitor They're also replacing the voice of Ghost entirely

@PrivatePansy i don't really like that tho, dinklebot was great

5pike

@PrivatePansy With Nolan North, I read.

MadMAxJr

I'm starting to think Rocket League is less a game and maybe more an addiction.

2:27 PM

couldn't that be said for most games

a game should be addicting, no?

Deadpool | Trailer [HD] | 20th Century FOX

2:39 PM

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MadMAxJr

In this case it's been rather contagious. Friends who are often not interested in current gen video games are picking it up when they see us play and it just spreads.

I guess 'Soccer with rocket cars' has a broad appeal.

Kevin van der Velden

@Rapitor how many times has this been linked today? =p

Deadpool | Red Band Trailer [HD] | 20th Century FOX

@Rapitor Red Band trailer is better.

1 hour ago, by Yuuki

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@KevinvanderVelden That's the Green Band trailer (approved for all audiences).

Kevin van der Velden

Ah

can someone slap @galaticninja for being wrong plz?

2:42 PM

Red Band has more blood and bad language.

I like the "Soccer with steel balls and horrific injuries" one more, I think.

@djsmiley2k I believe this edit of yours changes what OP was asking about — galacticninja 18 mins ago

@djsmiley2k To be fair, you seem to be expanding quite a bit on the original question.

Though I don't know Clash of Clans so I can't be sure.

lab is the upgrade function

user asking what happens to units once the upgrade is done?

wtf else would they be asking?

They're only asking if they can train units while the upgrade is happening.

2:47 PM

Then lets revert it and just say 'yes'

:/

Makes it utterly pointless really

as you can just test that instantly in game

You can test that instantly, after you start a very long and expensive upgrade. And if the answer is no, and you are in a clan war today?

if you cancel the upgrade, you get the resources back

@JasonBerkan lol the asnwer is still 'yes'

@djsmiley2k The question is "would you still want to test it in that situation?"

...

instant answer, no loss of resources if wrong?

Sure.

1 min ago, by djsmiley2k

if you cancel the upgrade, you get the resources back

@djsmiley2k What if you didn't know that?

2:52 PM

/me actually plays the game.

... I do know that

I was unaware you could cancel upgrades and I play the game.

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki ulrich from silicon valley is in there, 10/10

@djsmiley2k Yes, you know that.

What if the asker didn't?

Regardless, the edit should not have been approved. It changes the question.

@JasonBerkan congrats for proving my revised question is better than the original.

@Yuuki they do now \o/

2:53 PM

@djsmiley2k So ask it yourself. It's a different question and not what the OP asked.

you get to know, you get to know, everyone gets to know!

@JasonBerkan previously told NOT to do that.

Sigh

If you want to know if you can test something safely, you ask about testing somethign safely

Do not try and use X => Y as an excuse for a bad question

you guys go ahead, do wtf you want to the question

At the end of the day, the only person who knows what that person wanted to know, is that person

So you could just let THEM only authorize edits...

or you could let the community at large decide, because generally they know best.

@djsmiley2k Which is why changing their question is problematic. Would you have less of an issue if the OP rolled back you change?

And if the system is allowing the wrong edits to be authorized, maybe that needs looking at instead of blaming someone for fixing a bad question.

@JasonBerkan no, because they know what they want to ask

Everyone else has to try and understand it, with missing infomation

From my knowledge of the game, they want to know what I rephased it to say.

I wouldn't of suggested the edit without prior knowledge of the game.

Sorry, I'd have no issue if the OP wanted to roll back the change

Humans are bad at asking questions. Lol

I see it every day at work.

I don't feel like "what will happen" is an unfair expansion from "is it possible" personally.

I feel like if there's an interesting answer to "what will happen", a good answer to the original question should address that anyway

Please, from the original question, can someone explain what they are asking, that isn't what I changed it to

3:00 PM

@Unionhawk Very much this. Provide an awesome answer that addresses everything. But don't change the question.

shrug

but hte question is bad

Hell, it shouldn't even specify dragons, but meh

It's valid for ANY unit

Dragons is important due to how long they take to train vs lets say the infantry troops

Like @Unionhawk and @JasonBerkan said, you can mention that in the answer. Answers don't necessarily need to be narrowly scoped to the question.

I don't really feel that strongly about the edit to take actual action personally.

And so answers to questions that haven't been asked become incredibly hard to find

3:02 PM

On one hand, yes, but on the other hand, meh

yey

MadMAxJr

@Unionhawk Flagged for meh

The hand with meh is winning

@Unionhawk I just want someone to show me where my version is wrong

No ones done that yet.

@djsmiley2k Please. "Is it possible to train dragons during this time" != "What level dragons will I recieve, and will I need to some how re-train them once the upgrade is complete?"

3:03 PM

Question asks : If upgrade = true; build ??

I ask: if upgrade = true; build output =??

Once upgrade = false, build output ??

I expand upon the original question,.

I don't change it, nor remove it.

Or just Answer both versions

and you'll get the SAME answer.

So therefore, the question must of been simular.

Lets presume the answer is no, you can't build units while they are being upgraded

@djsmiley2k And that's what you're not supposed to do

Answer to user: No; Answer to me : No, you can't build items while they are being upgraded

Which answer is more informative?

@SaintWacko why the hell not?

because we've forgotten that we are trying to help people

?

We've had people rage quit the site when the scope of their question was edited. You have to edit without changing the meaning.

..

Has the meaning changed?

Expanding a question doesn't help anyone until the question is answered.

Answering questions helps people.

3:06 PM

@Yuuki .... I also answered.

Q: I finished all about hard mode with the lost in the binding of isaac rebirth but i didn't have the godhead achievement, i need help please

You can help by providing an awesome answer. You've put a ton of information in chat that is currently not in your answer.

Lazers 2.0

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When you defeat all big bosses on hard mode with the lost you must get the godhead achievement, so i did that and nothing happened, someone can help me?

binding-of-isaac-rebirth

@djsmiley2k Because it's in the rules, and because some people don't like their questions answered

People don't like their questions answered?

errrm

You can answer the question you think should have been asked, without changing the question itself

3:07 PM

@djsmiley2k Then just leave the answer with the extra information and everyone's happy.

If you think the rules should be changed to allow expanding on a question, start a meta about out

Stack Exchange is a network of 130+ Q&A communities including Stack Overflow, the preeminent site for programmers to find, ask, and answer questions about.....

Maybe the rules are outdated and should be changed

Or maybe there's a reason that we haven't considered, and it will be brought up in the meta

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