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7:33 AM
@Caramdir Here's what I do in the TQFT package for using TikZ styles inside a node declaration.
      \tikz@mode@fillfalse%
      \tikz@mode@drawfalse%
      \let\tikz@mode=\pgfutil@empty
      \let\tikz@options=\pgfutil@empty
      \tqftset{boundary style contents}
      \tikz@mode
      \tikz@options
The \tqftset is basically \tikzset except that it uses a different root.
 
8:03 AM
Here's an answer that needs a vote to get the question out of the "unanswered" queue. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/33146/… (Note that the answer is CW so I'm not posting this in an attempt to get more rep!). Do people think that this was an acceptable way to deal with this question?
 
 
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9:34 AM
now I have to know, what was D. Roepo's username before you asked him to change it @MartinScharrer
there should be a questionmark in there somewhere.
Hmmm, user7091. Not as funny as I had hoped.
 
10:15 AM
Hey, I have a few consecutive \begin{figure}...\end{figure} in my document.
And I'd like that some of them got kept together at the same page.
In other words, I'd like to have more control about page breaks between these consecutive figures.
I've already tried adding a \nopagebreakbetween such figures, but no luck.
 
10:40 AM
@DenilsonSá The simplest way to do this is to put the content of all figures which should be on one page into one figure. The figure environment is just a container, you can have multiple images and \captions in it.
You could of course also place them in an \afterpage{\clearpage <figures>\clearpage} (afterpage package).
 
The problem with multiple pictures/captions inside the same figure is that the spacing seems wrong.
gotta look at that afterpage package
 
@DenilsonSá Yes, you need to add some manual spacing like \bigskip.
 
@DenilsonSá You can space the two blocks with a \vspace command; don't worry about such details until the final revision of the document.
 
It should be possible to add the exact same amount of space as between two figures. I would have to check them first.
 
@MartinScharrer I guess I gonna do that: don't worry about it
 
10:50 AM
@DenilsonSá Sure
 
as, for now, I'm failing to find a good solution, except forcing a page break
 
11:01 AM
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A: Celebrating the birthday of our {TeX} site

Paulo CeredaTeX.sx article/issue A special article/issue specially released for this great celebration. We could have short interviews with some of our members, an overview of our community, moderators analysis, chatroom pearls, LaTeX jokes1, comments on questions, statistics, and so forth. We could also gi...

(chatroom pearls: we need to work harder.)
 
11:49 AM
@wh1t3 By the rules of the game, by virtue of having your TikZ answer accepted instead of mine, you take my place in the TikZ-rankings. This means that you are now allowed to challenge Jake for the TikZ-title. Lykke til!
 
12:15 PM
@AndrewStacey: I think the title is safe with Jake :)
 
12:27 PM
49049! Do I have to drink a shot now?
 
@MartinScharrer You have to treat us a shot :)
... 50k is quite impressive
 
I want to reduce the space between lines in a \lstinputlisting. Should I use a negative lineskip?
Or... is there any reason to NOT do so?
 
 
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2:25 PM
@JosephWright: 24 downloads in two days! Thanks a lot. :)
 
3:21 PM
@speldosa In your community poll question on meta do you mean "What features is LaTeX missing?" Your question as it now reads means something like "What features did LaTeX use to have that it no longer has" or "What feature that I like in some other software do I wish LaTeX had when I use LaTeX.
 
 
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4:33 PM
The Fedora 17 team is considering moving all binaries to /usr/bin/
Could this language be wrapped to the Lua engine behind Lua(La)TeX? moonscript.org
 
@PauloCereda Significant spaces: like in Fortran 77!
Not my cup of tea
 
@egreg Agreed. I already get confused with such constructs in Python and Ruby. MoonScript might be interesting because of the eventual easy learning curve, but I'd recommend to use Lua directly instead of another language built on top of it.
 
@PauloCereda I've to seriously start studying Lua.
 
@egreg Ah true, the alignment was because of the punched cards, I guess. :)
@egreg Me too! I found it very concise to use, but I'm still at the "Hello world" level. :)
 
4:50 PM
@PauloCereda Yes. I remember students doing TAMC going around with heaps of cards all carefully numbered. TAMC is the acronym of "Teoria e Applicazioni delle Macchine Calcolatrici", how the course in computer science for students in mathematics was called at the time (I didn't take it): "Theory and Applications of Computing Machines".
I chose the "pure mathematics" curriculum.
 
@egreg Wise choice. :P
@egreg I'd love to see one of those computing machines. The closest I got was our "patinho feio" - "ugly duck" - the first microcomputer with a classical model built in Brazil. I have a conference in São Paulo in the beginning of the year, I'll take a photo of it and post here. :)
 
@PauloCereda Those weren't really "machines": there was a room full of I-don't-know-what. The students had to submit the cards to some clerk and come back one or two days later, maybe to discover that a card had been punched badly or a number was wrong.
 
5:05 PM
@egreg wow. What if the result was important? :P
@egreg: BTW rep cap? :)
 
@PauloCereda Cries.
@PauloCereda No problem, of course. :)
The open streak is 16 days
 
@egreg Cool! :)
 
@PauloCereda Today Martin's behind schedule, don't upvote him. ;-)
 
@egreg haha don't worry, I'm already out of votes. :P
Our plan is working. :)
 
5:21 PM
@PauloCereda -28
 
@egreg Hm we need to hold back Martin a little.
 
Grrrrr. Microtype is evil. I'm now noticing every book that doesn't have hyphens protruding from the margin slightly and it is bugging me how much worse it looks.
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5:37 PM
Robert Cartaino commented to:
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Q: Celebrating the birthday of our {TeX} site

Stefan KottwitzOn November 11th, the first birthday of TeX Stack Exchange is coming up. That's the date when the site has been publicly launched, ending its beta phase. Let's celebrate it! Do you have ideas for contests, rewards, or any other great activity? I know there already were contributions on Birthda...

So continue to work out the details for our birthday party ;-)
 
@StefanKottwitz Great news!
 
@AlanMunn Huh, interesting that you call LyX windows: I call it MacOS.
 
@Canageek As I noted in the second comment, Mac users generally understand how their files are organized in their computer; Windows users generally don't. This is a fundamental design difference in the MacOS and Windows: in windows, your main access to documents is intended to be via a specific application such as Office, rather than through the File Explorer. Because of this decision, Windows users tend to get lost if they need to use the same file with different applications. Mac users don't.
 
@AlanMunn You know very different Mac users then I do. I thought one of the guiding principles of MacOS was to hide things from the user, that everything should be automatic? At least that is what I've gotten from John Siracusa's writings.
 
5:53 PM
Hiding "things" isn't the same thing as hiding files. At the right level of abstraction, any user interface "hides" things; the shell itself hide things from you. And a GUI obviously hides things. What I've noticed over many years of dealing with students who use both systems is that generally, naive Mac users have a better understanding of their computer's organization than naive Windows users.
Since I have no reasons to believe that either set of users is smarter than the other, this observation must follow roughly from some property of the OS. I.e. in the normal course of using the MacOS you come to understand things differently than in the normal course of using Windows.
 
@AlanMunn Interesting- I think you might be right about file systems, but I'd wonder about understanding of the rest of the OS, how often users get away from the pre-installed programs, understand how email/web browsing works, etc
 
Joseph Wright has added an event to this room's schedule.
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We need some interviewees for our special TeX.sx 1st birthday special issue.
 
@AlanMunn On the other hand, I'm the crazy bastard who is taking a Computer Arcitecture class as he doesn't like computers being black boxes, so now I'm learning assembly and CPU diagrams.
 
@Canageek I guess that depends mainly on your needs. Most students have MSOffice; Safari is a pretty good browser, and almost everyone uses Gmail instead of a dedicated mail client these days. The kind of understanding I'm interested in is functional understanding: do I understand things enough to do the stuff I need to do. Most Mac users don't know anything about using the command line, but they don't need to.
 
6:01 PM
@AlanMunn Whereas I think everyone should understand the basics of how the computer does things (File types, URLS, how RAM and the hard disk work) to make them less vulnerable to phishing and trojans and such.
 
@Canageek Certainly some of that basic knowledge is useful; I haven't seen much of a difference in different OS users at that level. Some people understand it and some don't. What is interesting to me is how many of your generation don't really know very much about computers despite most having used them since they were kids.
 
 
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7:53 PM
Come on guys, help me out here, 40 more rep and I can finally edit stuff without it going in the queue :)
 
@wh1t3 Try now :-)
 
@wh1t3 But don't try to edit tag wikis. ;-)
 
8:14 PM
nice :D
 
For possible interviews, we could do something similar as the moderator ones. We invite our interviewee to chat and ask lotsa questions. :)
 
@wh1t3 Congrats for the first step to "trusted user"!
 
(save the "What editor do you use" question to me.)
 
@egreg: thanks, at this rate it'll only take like, 9 more months...
 
8:43 PM
If there was a badge for "Earned 200 daily reputation for 30 consecutive days", it could be called "Egregious".
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Gold?
 
Silver, perhaps? :)
 
Gold badges usually take much longer than 30 days to achieve
 
Not this one. ;-)
 
8:52 PM
;)
 
Silver now. :)
 
@Raphink can I bother you with two more translations?
 
sure @Patrick
(if my son lets me use the keyboard long enough :))
 
Nous avons donc, mémorisé avec chaque nœud, une représentation de sa couleur, sous la forme d’un entier représentant la chaîne de caractères utilisée pour nommer cette couleur dans le format de sortie.
 
Thus we have, memorized with each node, a representation of its color as an integer representing the string used to name this color in the output format.
 
8:55 PM
Great! And the last one:
À titre anecdotique, signalons que la gestion des langues a connu, en passant de PDFTEX à LuaTEX, un glissement similaire à celui présenté ici pour les couleur, passant de l’usage de bidules au stockage individuel avec chaque nœud.
 
@Raphink Get another keyboard. :)
 
@egreg: not sure it will help, the problem is that he's in my arms ;-)
 
en passant I know! It's a chess move! :P
yay I'm helpful!
 
Thanks @PauloCereda :)
 
@Patrick ;-)
 
8:57 PM
@Patrick: As a note, let's note that language management, from PDFTEX to LuaTEX, has overcome a similar change to that of colors, going from using whatsits to individual storage within each node.
 
(Now I need @Raphink to confirm :))
 
@PauloCereda: you're right, it means "as you pass", thus the chess move name
 
@Raphink Wouldn't "stored" be better than "memorized"?
 
@Raphink If you ever need a german translation (to english, not french :) let me know
 
thanks
 
8:58 PM
@Raphink Ah makes sense! Thanks. :)
 
I've studied German for 9 years
but it's a bit rusted
@egreg: yes it would. Actually, I'd say "stored within each node"
 
I had french in school for several years (but I had to repeat because of french and others) but it's so long ago
 
like I translated the second time
 
9:26 PM
I resist answering the newest question by just one character ;-)
 
@StefanKottwitz I had to warn against using px, if you're referring to the \vspace question.
 
Yes I did. Btw. you meant CSS, basictips.com/which-font-size-px-pt-em.shtml voted for px
Pixels on paper are odd though
 
If I'm not mistaken, px depends on the resolution of the device.
 
9:43 PM
@PauloCereda Not for pdftex; it's a fixed length that can be changed by the user. The default value is 1px = 1pt.
 
I guess if you can set the document resolution, 1px will be 1/n of a resolution n.
 
@PauloCereda px depends on \pdfpxdimen
 
@egreg, @StefanKottwitz: Ah I see. :)
 
@egreg 1px defaults to 1bp
 
@StefanKottwitz Yes, I misread the doc.
Fixed
 
9:50 PM
@egreg Great! So I upvoted yours to get your useful additions higher thus more visible.
 
@StefanKottwitz Rep cap already reached; but thanks anyway. :)
 
Boris' reputation page confirms that the +2 reputation from editing is not exempt from the rep cap.
 
@egreg it's a vote for the content, not a favor ;-)
@lockstep +6, interesting to see
 
Am I the only one who runs out of votes? :|
 
@PauloCereda No, happens to me all of the time
 
9:53 PM
@PauloCereda Not today.
@egreg There are always tag badges. But I don't need to tell that to you (2 silver, 21 bronze tag badges, another bronze tag badge scheduled for tomorrow).
 
@PauloCereda Not yet! If you saw any great contribution which might have been overlooked, let us know ;)
 
@lockstep There's only one badge! And Martin's going to get it before me. :( ;-)
 
We could interview egreg or lockstep. :)
 
@PauloCereda I'd be honored.
 
@egreg Great!
 
10:07 PM
@PauloCereda I'd be honoured, too -- but maybe you'd be disappointed.
 
@lockstep Nah, it will be great! After all:
Sep 30 at 20:41, by Joseph Wright
(Context for @HedgeMage and @GraceNote: lockstep is a one-man flag machine)
What document class could we use? papertex perhaps?
 
11:08 PM
@AlanMunn: any sign of the biblatex tag for this week? :)
 
11:49 PM
@lockstep It turned out that in some sense it's possible to "undeclare" a global option.
 
@egreg Indeed? Then I'm even more interested in your answer.
@egreg I'm out of votes for today, though.
 
@lockstep The list of global options is saved in \@classoptionslist: it's sufficient to massage it a bit.
 

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