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5:02 PM
I couldn't help myself.
@AbdennourTOUMI Caveat: Does not tell you if Windows is 32 or 64-bit. Only reports for Linux. ;) — Ben Richards 20 secs ago
 
Bob
>
The intervention on <redacted> has been completed.

This operation was closed at 2015-06-30 13:01:30

Here are the details of this operation:
USB key add
Date 2015-06-30 12:27:07, first.last made USB key add:
USB key 16go successfully connected to the server

Done
@allquixotic ^
 
@Bob Well aren't you special!!!
 
Bob
Took about 15 mins from scheduled start time.
 
enjoy your 16 "Giga-octets" of lovely USB flash memory.
 
Bob
@allquixotic Hey, you got a week free :P
Wait, did they bill you for that time?
 
5:03 PM
Aaahhh I dropped my sushi roll into a bucket of soy sauce SO SALTY
 
Bob
...bucket?
Bucket of soy sauce?
O_O
 
Well, it's a very tiny bucket. :P
 
Bob
Still...
 
Like those buckets of ketchup you get at fast food places :P
 
Bob
 
5:04 PM
lol
 
Bob
 
@Bob Yes. Yes, they did. The bastids. But at least the server was up for that time.
 
Bob
Where do you get buckets of soy sauce? :S
 
At the sushi place! It probably holds a few ounces :P
 
Bob
@allquixotic ...you gonna ask for a flash drive again?
@BenRichards We get either the fish containers or a bottle.
Bottle if sit-in. Fish if takeaway.
 
5:05 PM
@Bob Nah. wholedisk probably won't buy me much of anything on Hardware RAID.
 
Bob
@allquixotic Doesn't really do anything for ZoL either :P
I just didn't want to set up mdraid
 
Takeaway. They give us those little plastic cups that have lids.
That comment I made though. Had to respond. The question asked about Windows and he had to make a snarky comment saying how much easier it is on Linux to do this. :P
(Also, it isn't easier to do it on Linux, just a different command!)
 
Bob
@BenRichards Actually, I'm flagging his comment.
> Did u see how it is so simple with linux ? if so , delete windows and install linux.
Completely inappropriate.
 
It is
Though maybe I didn't feel like flagging because I saw this edit just now.
On a question I asked on a different SE
Of course it was rejected. :S
 
kids with nothing better to do, doing "research" at library computers at school, probably
 
5:09 PM
I still think my answer to that question about Windows 64/32 bit was the better one, even if it's a bit less "fancy". I wonder if it'll eventually overtake the accepted answer.
Yeah
I mean, Villari's doesn't have a particularly good reputation, because the quality control isn't terribly great. But Villari was a good martial artist. Just a shrewd businessman. And my first dojo was actually decent.
 
primary schools' IPs should all be banned from editing wikipedia :P
 
Bob
@BenRichards WMI is probably the better answer, actually.
 
Mine is better because of flexibility. You can use it anywhere. :P
 
Bob
Accessible remotely.
 
5:11 PM
WMI has the advantage of not being able to be changed by the user.
 
Bob
@BenRichards ...where can you use the envvar that you can't use WMI?
 
hmm, could cook up something in powershell using a .NET API too, probably
 
Bob
@allquixotic Most probably already are.
 
In the comments, apparently in places like the sql commandline shell.
 
Bob
@allquixotic Why would you do that when PS already has access to WMI? :P
 
5:12 PM
Also, WMI requires admin access, and my answer does not.
 
Bob
@BenRichards You sure about that?
 
That's what they say, @Bob.
 
Bob
Pretty sure I just did it on a non-elevated prompt.
> The first time you run Wmic after system installation, it must be run from an elevated command prompt. The elevated mode may not be required for subsequent executions of Wmic unless the WMI operations require administrator privilege.
Hm. Interesting.
That's actually... really weird.
 
System.Environment.Is64BitOperatingSystem on .NET 4.0+
 
5:14 PM
Oh really, that is strange.
Maybe the first time it reads the system data, it caches it in userspace?
Then subsequent runs just read the cached data?
 
new Windows disk image to roll out to enterprise -> wise IT guy who loves his developers runs wmic as admin before finalizing image -> devs love IT guy
one can dream
 
Bob
@BenRichards Can't be.
Said data will change.
 
True.
Was assuming it was only hardware data that doesn't change, but I didn't think hard enough. I don't do wmic queries often.
 
Bob
Anyway, that's just for wmic
gwmi in PS will work regardless
 
You can use that env var though in batch script queries easily, etc. In some ways I find it simpler than going through wmic
wmic. "Wemic". The computer plays D&D!
 
5:19 PM
? :S
Wisdom endurance magic intelligence charisma?
 
In the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy roleplaying game, the wemic is a fantastical hybrid creature with the upper body of a human and the lower body of a lion. Like centaurs, they are considered "tauric" creatures. == Publication history == David C. Sutherland III created the modern-day wemic for a game product called Monster Cards Set 3, a first edition Advanced Dungeons and Dragons supplement released in 1982; with the artwork for the original depiction being undertaken by Jim Roslof. The wemic then appeared in first edition in the original Monster Manual II (1983). The wemic appeared in se...
 
it's missing Strength
 
Bob
I'm so confused now.
 
Hehe
 
speaking of D&D, a few friends and I are playing Baldur's Gate 2: Enhanced Edition multiplayer
 
5:20 PM
I never played D&D. I just remembered the term. I have friends that do. I've done other tabletop RPG games before but never really stuck long term.
Coolies.
 
old game, fun to play as a group
 
I'm actually getting back into video games pretty hard these days. Last night I found myself daydreaming about playing video games while laying in bed waiting to sleep. I can't remember doing that for probably 10 years, lol
 
I play SWTOR nightly since September
it's my social outlet
nobody likes a cat burrito IRL so that's all I can do
2
 
I'm almost done with Thief (2014) and am already on disc 2 of Shenmue, which I started soon after E3 ended, after having decided to finally start the game (my disc 1 was defective so I couldn't, so I ordered replacement discs)
Shenmue starts out slow, but it picks up and gets pretty interesting after the first few hours.
It really is a great game, despite the not-as-responsive controls (Dreamcast was great but the lack of dual joysticks really hampered it)
Or even the fact that there's no navigation control option for the right hand at all.
I was worried that it was going to be overrated, but starting today, from complete ignorance of the game, it aged very well.
Meeting...
I actually am probably gonna get back into Destiny. Also, just picked up Arkham Knight, which I'm gonna start after finishing Thief.
 
heh
you think you're going to start Arkham Knight :) if it's on PC, you probably won't be able to play it unless you have a Titan X and DDR4
 
5:39 PM
I got it for PS4 partially for that reason :P
Though I did get Witcher 3 on PC, haven't attempted to run it yet :P
 
Bob
Oh yea, @allquixotic, I owe you a !!foxno :P
whoops
shrug guess I'll do it tomorrow :P
 
@Bob why do you?
@Bob O_O is that my server?
 
Bob
@allquixotic yea
 
@Bob I'll fix it now.
is that win.smc ?
 
Bob
@allquixotic no hurry
@allquixotic yea
I still haven't figured out lxd yet, so at this point installing deb is more a curiosity than anything else
will probably do more on the weekend
maybe
oh, is java installed on that server?
I don't think the serial console would work with the deb installer
(not to mention getting the ISO to load)
 
5:51 PM
great, getting lag
@Bob yep, I used it to do this before
 
Bob
@allquixotic don't bother doing it now
 
why the fuck am I getting 56k speeds right now on my computer at work O_O
 
Bob
I should go to sleep anyway :P
@allquixotic someone's downloading 'linux'? :P
but, yea, I'm out. thanks for the help @allquixotic
 
you should be able to login now
 
Bob
@allquixotic thanks
yep
hmm... decisions... installation or sleep...
eh might as well download the images first
...classic start o.O
 
5:58 PM
hehe
classic start is cheaper than Start8 ($0 vs greater than $0) and has the same features, so I figured why not
 
Bob
I just closed it :P
(was going to try opening the start screen to check latency... seems good)
 
you can start the start screen from the start menu
 
Bob
holy...
500 MB in 30 secs
 
:)
same datacenter but that's an SP-128 running on top of KVM
 
Bob
@allquixotic that was the deb download speed (external)
haven't managed to launch the ipmi viewer yet
...huh
 
6:10 PM
?
!!foxno
 
Bob
interesting.
they only allow connections via the IP that requested IPMI access
 
a security measure of sorts, assuming they don't have a way to make your computer proxy the request to them
 
Bob
anyway, now booting the deb iso
...I think
actually I have no idea what it's booting :P
nope ended up in rescue mode -_-
oh bloody hell
I need to see if I can turn up the bios message time
Jun 9 at 0:56, by allquixotic
but the firmware dated January 2015 works fine
@allquixotic ^
looks like I got new hardware
or they did the firmware update
 
6:34 PM
Whee. I got a free MRI scanner.... :)
 
Bob
o.O
 
From my MRI colleagues whose configurations I did for them.
 
@Bob looks like the same hardware, but with the updated firmware
 
Bob
@allquixotic yea, I meant new hardware as in manufacturer-updated
 
ah
or maybe another customer did it :D
 
Bob
6:38 PM
heh, possibly
yay finally got into deb
dammit I can't paste into it
I am not retyping all this
 
Bob
6:56 PM
there we go, ssh access to the installer :)
 
@Hennes USB powered MRI! for when you need to image your cancerous tumor on the go!
 
Bob
lol mirror.us.leaseweb.net
Name:    mirror.wdc1.us.leaseweb.net
Addresses:  2604:9a00:2010:a001:1:face:bad:c0de
          108.59.10.97
that's a nice ipv6
 
7:27 PM
Three items: 1) Our security agency, 2) They main "battle system". and 3) Windows XP....
 
Bob
7:51 PM
> At this point, unfortunately, I'm convinced that ZFS as a Linux kernel module will become "stable" long before Btrfs will be stable in the mainline kernel.
@allquixotic ^
hehe
 
8:05 PM
@Bob that's definitely my perception
 
Bob
ok, deb installed with zfs. setting up the efi boot now
 
yay
 
Bob
got a zfs error in the chrooted env... hope everything works
 
2 hours ago, by Bob
but, yea, I'm out. thanks for the help @allquixotic
 
Bob
...yea
hope I don't fall asleep at work -_-
 
8:06 PM
2 hours ago, by Bob
hmm... decisions... installation or sleep...
1 min ago, by Bob
ok, deb installed with zfs. setting up the efi boot now
!!meme okay
 
Bob
8:20 PM
....
I am dumb.
Booted into the lubuntu live env in mbr mode, not efi mode... then tried to modify efi vars
 
Bob
8:42 PM
@allquixotic How did you get EFI boot working?
I can't even find my newly-added option :(
 
oh, the MRI-pendrive is 32GB. Not bad, given that I was expecting a 1GB or 2GB drive
 
@Bob efistub and manually having to enter it in EFI Shell o_O
 
Bob
uhh
@allquixotic Could you elaborate on that second part?
 
sure
 
Bob
for some reason the efibootmgr entry isn't appearing in the list
 
8:47 PM
somewhere in my EFI System Partition is an EFI Shell Script (basically like a batch file) that execs my kernel's efistub.
 
Bob
I'm trying to find an efi shell guide... help is useless since it scrolls off the top of the screen
 
the name of the script is such that booting to EFI Shell makes it automatically execute it, like a DOS autoexec.bat.
one sec, I'll dredge up my script
 
Bob
I got clippied.
 
here we go; this is the file "startup.nsh" in the root of my EFI System Partition
fs0:
cd EFI\efistub
vmlinuz.efi root=/dev/sda2 initrd=/EFI/efistub/initrd
root@ns515301:/boot/efi# ls -la /boot/efi/EFI/efistub
total 25332
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root     4096 Jun 10 03:50 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root     4096 Jun 10 03:41 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 19575628 Jun 10 01:38 initrd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  6351952 Jun 10 00:16 vmlinuz.efi
root@ns515301:/boot/efi# file /boot/efi/EFI/efistub/vmlinuz.efi
/boot/efi/EFI/efistub/vmlinuz.efi: x86 boot sector
 
Bob
there is no fs0
probably need to map the flash drive first
 
8:51 PM
ahh
try fs1: ?
maybe vol command will help
 
Bob
...lemme just hop back into the efi-booted live env to make sure I didn't pull a stupid
> An error occurred on attempting to connect to the IPMI module using a Java applet (An intervention is being carried out on this server, at the moment you can't access to IPMI.)
O_O
O_O
just got an email... server check? wat
 
9:13 PM
oh, it's because you had monitoring on and they couldn't ping it for an extended time
put in a ticket telling them to turn monitoring off and release the intervention so you can keep working on your custom OS install
their monitoring system automatically tells them to take a peek if you have monitoring on and it becomes unpingable for a long time
should've mentioned that, sorry
 
Bob
@allquixotic Oh. They already said they turned it off.
 
ah, good
 
Bob
:O
:D
@allquixotic got it working with efibootmgr
note to self: do not create big ESPs
(I had it at 4 GB... reduced it to 400 MB, recreated boot entry, and it stuck :D)
 
@Bob yeah. have to make it tiny. :P
good job, tho'
 
Bob
just in time, too... leaving for work in half an hour
speaking of which, I'm gonna need lots of caffeine today
 
@Bob Terraria 1.3 released today. Just in case you wanted an excuse to not think about work all day. :P
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank ...yea, I know, my friend's been bugging me about it all week
 
9:46 PM
@Bob holy crap
at that rate I'd call in sick
(not that I ever do, but if I stayed up that late, I probably would!)
 
Bob
@allquixotic at this point, it's not late... it's early
just got kinda caught up in "almost... almost"
 
if I'd had just refused to give you access over the night, you would have been able to get some hours of sleep
sorry for that
 
Bob
LOL
@allquixotic just a quick note if you ever try to get efi stub booting (probably not, but meh)
efibootmgr -d /dev/sdb -c -g -L "Debian (EFI stub)" -l '\EFI\debian\vmlinuz' -u "add_efi_memmap boot=zfs rpool=tank bootfs=tank/ROOT/debian-8 root=ZFS=tank/ROOT/debian-8 initrd=\\EFI\\debian\\initrd.img ro vmwgfx.enable_fbdev=1"
I'll write this whole thing up properly into a blog post or something at some point... already have it documented thanks to JMG :P
 
Haha, yea.. I logged in before work to see what all the fuss would be about. Found a giant tree, checked out the chest and it had a leaf wand, wood wand, and a living loom.

Went to shift-click when all into my inventory and they disappeared.
Turns out I've been playing too much Minecraft recently and deleted them all by accident. -_-
 
Bob
heh
@allquixotic I've also cleaned up stray files on your server (~1.5 GB)... probably won't need it from here. Thanks again.
 
10:42 PM
So we had our first Antenatal class last night. Except the instructor never turned up... Imagine 8 pregnant ladies all pissed off together in the same room .__.
 
11:27 PM
@Bob my server boots off of EFI Stub now.
but not using efibootmgr.
and / is XFS.
@Bob K. No problem!
Got reliable SSH access now?
 
11:53 PM
ugh. Backups are broken again :/
@Bob: What did I do?
@Hennes that's adorable.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Got me to document it :P
@allquixotic Yep. At least, I think so.
But I can always use IPMI locally. As long as I don't need to upload 500 MB.
Hmm... but even if I manage to boot it I won't be able to mount the ZFS...
Maybe boot the BSD rescue image? :\
@allquixotic Feel like changing things around? :P
efibootmgr doesn't actually do anything at boot time. it just changes some vars in the firmware nvram
the firmware itself handles the boot
 
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