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rfusca
rfusca
1:38 AM
@Sobachatina awesome! the ozarks are gorgeous
@tastefive to say the ravioli turned out well is an understatement
one guy with a little old italian grandmother said he'd deny it later but they were better than hers lol
 
 
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tastefive
tastefive
1:47 PM
@rfusca awesome.
they sounded great, what did you do for sauce
 
Katey Ψ
Katey Ψ
We had a tomato sauce made from yellow tomatoes served with ravioli and while initially off-putting, once I tasted it I was sold. I want to make that for someone now.
 
tastefive
tastefive
@KateyΨ was it a classic style marinara sauce with yellow tomato, or a more rustic sauce were the tomato basically remains whole? I have done a more rustic pomodoro with some yellow tomato, but not a classic marinara style sauce. Could be interesting though.
 
Katey Ψ
Katey Ψ
Classic marinara! That's partly why it was so surprising, you don't expect a sauce that texture to be that color.
 
tastefive
tastefive
sounds interesting, we will be getting a fall harvest here of a bunch of yellow cherry tomatoes. Maybe I will give it a try. I would think it would be really sweet.
 
Katey Ψ
Katey Ψ
That was the other surprising thing, it was quite savory! I was surprised at every turn, basically.
 
tastefive
tastefive
2:00 PM
cool
 
rfusca
rfusca
2:19 PM
@tastefive I ended up just sauteing them with a lil' brown butter and garlic. A little shedded parm on top afterwards. No real 'sauce'. They were so rich and tasty alone that I wanted to really highlight the ravioli themselves and not a sauce
it turned out great
Strangest question...ever
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Q: What's the best way to punch a sandwich?

PhilI left my cheese/raisin/anchovy/pickle sandwich unattended in the school cafeteria for about ten minutes while I changed into my uniform for band practice. When I returned, I found my sandwich smashed and surrounded by the splattered remains of its former contents. I was so mad, I pounded my fist...

food-science sandwich
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
2:41 PM
It disappeared quickly.
The moderators are on top of things.
 
rfusca
rfusca
3:09 PM
@Sobachatina ya, that thing was closed and deleted quick - by rebecca chernoff actually
 
Mien
Mien
3:21 PM
yay, making scampi this weekend :)
 
rfusca
rfusca
cool
so, you still live at home right? so are you the chef in the house or do you parents cook as well?
 
Mien
Mien
Yes, still living at home
for the next two years I'm afraid
Usually, my mother makes dinner
but when she's working late, I make dinner
 
rfusca
rfusca
ic
 
Mien
Mien
and once every 2-4 weeks, I can make something 'special' :p
and in weekends, I make dinner for me and my bf
but he's an easy eater, luckily
 
rfusca
rfusca
thats lucky
my wife...is not
 
Mien
Mien
3:25 PM
argh, women!
:p
 
rfusca
rfusca
i know, right!?
;)
 
Mien
Mien
ooh, you winked at me!
do you see me blushing?
 
rfusca
rfusca
sigh women....
 
Mien
Mien
oh, you love women!
admit it!
 
tastefive
tastefive
@rfusca aren't you a little picky as well?
 
rfusca
rfusca
3:31 PM
@tastefive yes?
 
tastefive
tastefive
Seems like I remember no mushrooms or soothing like that :)
 
rfusca
rfusca
oh ya, no mushrooms :( yuck
 
Mien
Mien
:o
I love mushrooms
 
rfusca
rfusca
i'm much, much less picky than I was
 
tastefive
tastefive
We all have our dislikes I guess.
 
rfusca
rfusca
3:32 PM
indeed
 
tastefive
tastefive
I wish my wife was more into seafood.
She is coming around though.
 
Mien
Mien
I'm not sure if there is something that I find yucky
 
rfusca
rfusca
ya, i'm allergic to a lot of seafood
 
tastefive
tastefive
I am lucky that I have not found any food allergies yet.
 
rfusca
rfusca
ya, i didn't find that one till last christmas
 
tastefive
tastefive
3:35 PM
Christmas, seafood, was it perhaps a feast of the seven fishes?
 
rfusca
rfusca
lol, no, nothing that elaborate
just some crab that made me swell way up
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
I got to watch my dog fight it out with a raccoon at about 3 this morning.
I have to find out what the laws are for firing shotguns in my county now.
 
tastefive
tastefive
Ah, I did it last year it was so much fun. Have to start early trying to source thongs this year though.
 
rfusca
rfusca
@tastefive man, thats a lot of work!
 
tastefive
tastefive
@Sobachatina your in Texas right, isn't it simply shoot first, ask questions later. :)
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
3:40 PM
I'm new to this and kind of want to make sure before I get arrested.
 
rfusca
rfusca
in Texas, you get arrested if you don't shoot first
;)
 
tastefive
tastefive
@rfusca the work really is the timing. I tried to do courses. I think this time I will just have everything made and let people grab what they want.
 
rfusca
rfusca
@tastefive probably a better idea for what most american's are used to for family events
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
@Sobachatina even in Germany, there are no laws against emptying a bucket of water on a raccoon.
(I hope).
 
rfusca
rfusca
is 'emptying a bucket of water' some sort of german slang for unloading a shotgun on him?
 
Katey Ψ
Katey Ψ
3:42 PM
That Germany with its strong pro-Raccoon agenda!
 
tastefive
tastefive
Lol
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
No, I was suggesting that he doesn't need a shotgun to scare a raccoon away.
@Katey it wouldn't surprise me.
 
tastefive
tastefive
I don't think he wants to scare it.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
There aren't many wild animals left here, so we watch over them a bit.
 
rfusca
rfusca
@rumtscho well you keep dumping buckets of water on em, I'd leave too
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
3:44 PM
There is no shortage of raccoons.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
@tastefive Why dealing with a dead raccoon if a scared away raccoon lets him sleep through the night? Also, if his aim is somewhat off at 3 AM, it is safer for the dog.
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
I don't want to scare it. Ideally I would like to make a hat out of it.
 
rfusca
rfusca
hahaha
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
@Sobachatina Pics or it didn't happen!
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
Sleeping through the night, while desirable, is less important than protecting the chickens.
 
Katey Ψ
Katey Ψ
3:45 PM
Guys, I have a solution: Shotgun with water balloon shells
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
Oh believe me- I'd put up a pic if I did something that awesome.
 
rfusca
rfusca
lol
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
Preferably before Heloween, so it is hat AND mustache.
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
lol
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
@KateyΨ If only Agatha Christie lived today.
"He was shot, but we found no bullets in him or anywhere near him".
"If we found a bullet, we'd have the killer. Damn!"
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
3:47 PM
I'm going to try a live trap first but last night it was 3 feet away from me and I had nothing I could do about it. Very frustrating.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
Poirot comes and notices
 
Katey Ψ
Katey Ψ
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
The dog thoroughly mauled it but it still got away. Hopefully that will be enough to scare it off.
 
Katey Ψ
Katey Ψ
That is what you do with a Raccoon Hat.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
"The killer is Katey, she used her Reprap to make casts for bullets, filled them with water and froze them. Then she used them to shoot the victim".
@Sobachatina Whack it on the head with a stick?
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
3:50 PM
@KateyΨ That was hilarious.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
Why are you people starring my pseudo-agatha-christie citations? What's so special about them?
 
Katey Ψ
Katey Ψ
I was grading them but I ran out of A+'s
@Sobachatina So great, right? Parks and Recreation, the best comedy on television right now.
 
tastefive
tastefive
So what's for dinner tonight?
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
Oh, good thing you're mentioning it.
Maybe I should try to get out of here early enough to buy food and eat it.
 
tastefive
tastefive
Yes, you should definitly do that.
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
4:01 PM
So- I just got off the phone with an officer from the sheriff's office.
Turns out that you're pretty much right.
Whenever I talk to these country people I end up feeling like an idiot.
Him (with a thick drawl) "So... How can we help you sir?"
Me "I just move out on to 4 acres and want to know if I can fire a shotgun on my land."
Him "Yep"
Me "... So... what are the rules?"
Him "Don't shoot your neighbors."
Me "... oookay. And raccoons are ok?"
Him "Coons, skunks, whatever. Just don't shoot over a road or your neighbors house."
So- apparently raccoons are considered vermin and are free game at any time.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
And how do you dispose of the body?
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
@rumtscho Stew pot?
I didn't ask.
 
tastefive
tastefive
@rumtscho he could probably burn it.
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
Let the chickens have it. :)
Poetic justice that.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
@Sobachatina Ew. Ever heard of Echinococcosis?
And don't unleash the first prion-caused bird disease on the planet by feeding dead animals to your chickens, please.
In Germany, if your pet animal dies, you pay a service to dispose of it (vet usually acts as an intermediary). It is illegal to bury it in your yard, or throw it in the trash, or to burn it.
I suppose this applies to wild animals you killed, if it is legal to kill them at all.
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
4:08 PM
@rumtscho Come now. You have to beat the chickens off of dead animals.
I have had problems with the chickens eating their companions as I was in the process of slaughtering them.
People have romanticized perceptions of chickens.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
@Sobachatina Sure they eat worms and such, but not vertebratae.
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
They eat anything.
Oh mine happily catch lizards, snakes, and mice all the time.
 
Katey Ψ
Katey Ψ
All I can say is that I expect some excellent raccoon-dish preparation questions to come out of this series of events.
 
tastefive
tastefive
@rumtscho that it pretty much the same here. But in some areas you could definitely burn them.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
@Sobachatina Remind me to never come to Texas. I have always heard you are hardcore there, but if even the chickens eat snakes...
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
4:10 PM
@KateyΨ lol.
 
tastefive
tastefive
How do I remove the gameness from the raccoon a shoot on my backyard.
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
@rumtscho I won't remind you. And if you do come here I expect to hear about it.
@tastefive Can you make a turducken but with a raccoon that ate one of my chickens?
 
tastefive
tastefive
Lol
 
Katey Ψ
Katey Ψ
@Sobachatina We're really looking to drive up traffic from the rural parts of the world.
 
tastefive
tastefive
Now that is funny right there
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
4:14 PM
"We had a rat for dinner last Sunday. Mama caught it for us." "That's nothing, my dad caught us a rattlesnake for Christmas! He just fluffed his golden neck feathers and cooooooed, and it froze in panic. He got it with a single strike of the beak."
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
@KateyΨ That's where the good food comes from.
@rumtscho You seem to be really bothered by this. :) Rattlesnakes are too big for a chicken- people keep peacocks to control those.
 
tastefive
tastefive
So it would be a racchiken
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
I prefer the rural food too. Or sometimes the urban recipes, but made with rural produce.
@Sobachatina I wouldn't know. I never saw a snake in my life, outside of a zoo.
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
I've only seen a couple. They like to be left alone.
 
tastefive
tastefive
Has anybody eaten rattlesnake? They aren't to bad.
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
4:19 PM
I haven't but I would try it.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
I missed the chance while we were hiking. I was second in the group, and the leader suddenly made a vertical jump, landed and cried "Stop! A viper!". But I couldn't see it, he and the bush blocked my view.
I was extremely happy that I had been second and not first, I don't pay so much attention what I'm about to step on.
 
tastefive
tastefive
4:37 PM
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I can't believe people really ask these type questions here.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
I don't see the problem with that type questions.
Has any of you ever tried inserting a Greek letter in Notepad++?
 
tastefive
tastefive
Really I wouldnt think this site would be about were to source product.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
If it is a rare one, I don't see the problem. Plus, they also ask about alternatives.
 
tastefive
tastefive
Ok, then maybe I am wrong and its ok.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
4:53 PM
It would be too localized if they asked "is there a shop in my town, I live in SmallVillage, Hinterlands". But the way they ask, it can be answered with a type of store and I find this OK:
For example, I didn't know that you can find cilantro in Thai groceries in Germany. I thought you can't get it at all here.
Such knowledge can be helpful (in case I need cilantro).
 
tastefive
tastefive
I get that, I just wouldn't call it cooking advice. The part about alternatives is though.
Its all good.
@rumtscho cilantro/coriander isn't a normal ingredient in your markets?
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
@tastefive Not at all. I don't think that there are any German recipes which use them.
You can get the dried seeds easily, the big spice brands have their complete sortiment on show in bigger supermarkets.
 
tastefive
tastefive
Interesting.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
But the leaves are practically unattainable.
 
tastefive
tastefive
Can I ask, do the majority of germans tend to not branch out to cooking other cuisines?
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
5:01 PM
Somebody recently mentioned that Thai groceries here sell them, and I found the info interesting. I thought of cilantro as a Latin American herb.
@tastefive I have no idea what the majority of Germans cook at home.
 
tastefive
tastefive
Probably to broad a question to really answer.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
OK, noodles are very popular, but this is because they are cheap and easy to make. People interested in food probably cook them less frequently than the general population.
There are certainly foreign-cuisine-restaurants.
Again, I don't know how popular they are vs. German traditional restaurants.
There is actually a Spanish restaurant two houses from mine, I plan to try it some day.
Döner is very popular in Germany, not only with Turkish people. But it is seen as a kind of fast food.
And of course, nobody makes it at home.
 
rfusca
rfusca
wow, this doesn't sound remotely good to me lol cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/18351/…
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
What is "not good", the fit of the question to the site, or the recipe?
 
rfusca
rfusca
it doesn't sound tasty to me
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
5:06 PM
Probably a regional thing.
 
rfusca
rfusca
but I mean just to me, i'm not saying its like 'ew yuck, why would somebody do that'
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
I don't like deep fried fish.
But I have had similar salads (without the fish), they are not bad.
 
tastefive
tastefive
Sounded om till refridgerated 2 days, and served cold on salad.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
Not "on salad" in the sense of adding lettuce.
It is served as a salad itself.
 
rfusca
rfusca
fried fish with a thich tomato paste just doesn't sound good
 
tastefive
tastefive
5:08 PM
Like a salad. Cold fried fish doesn't sound apitizing.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
Actually, in the Western way of thinking, this course is probably an antipasti and not a salad. We just call the type of dish "salad".
 
rfusca
rfusca
i've never had Döner ..but it looks rather close to gyros
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
Cold fish isn't a problem to me.
@rfusca Tastes very different.
 
rfusca
rfusca
@rumtscho in terms of spices, texture, or both?
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
Actually, I prefer gyros, despite it being rather fat.
 
tastefive
tastefive
5:10 PM
It isn't so me either in general but fried and sitting in a paste cold. I dont know. I would definitely give it a try though
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
@rfusca The spices are very different, and the whole flavor. Actually, gyros is mostly pork, and döner is never pork - it should be lamb, but normally it is turkey today.
And gyros is fat meat fried in a pan with onions and spices.
Eaten with tzatziki.
A döner is a sandwich.
The döner meat is grilled on this special kind of rotisserie
 
rfusca
rfusca
the gyros I've eaten are lamb on a rotisserie
 
tastefive
tastefive
I am used to gyros being lamb
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
then there is a piece of flat round bread, very hydrated.
 
rfusca
rfusca
and its typicaly in a pita as almost a sandwhich
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
5:13 PM
The bread gets filled with the döner meat, some fresh veggies, and a yogurt sauce which is very different from a tzatziki.
Also, there is never summer savory in döner. And never spearmint.
I have never had a gyros sandwich.
 
rfusca
rfusca
according to wikipedia, gyros derived from döner
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
And maybe the original was lamb, but today nobody goes to the expense.
 
rfusca
rfusca
and it makes sense to me, looking at prep and pictures of döner and what I know to be gyros here
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
@rfusca "derived" can be a very broad thing. I am sure that brioche derived from standard french bread.
 
tastefive
tastefive
According to wikipedia, traditionally a gyro would be pork or lamb. Now I want to try a pork one.
 
rfusca
rfusca
5:15 PM
well, they certainly look very similar to me - different spices and a different bread perhaps, but definitely close
@tastefive my wife would kill me. Lamb gyros are one of the only ways she ever gets lamb
 
tastefive
tastefive
I like the lamb don't get me wrong. I just wonder how the pork would taste though. Apparently they make them with chicken and veal as well, just not as popular.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
I had gyros for lunch yesterday. Our cafeteria has only two or three dishes to which they add summer savory, and gyros is one of them. I love them for that.
 
rfusca
rfusca
'summer savory' - i got to look that up
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
A very aromatic spice.
Sorry, herb.
 
rfusca
rfusca
hmm interesting. Hadn't heard of it. Its not something I see around here.
From wikipedia - "Instead of salt and pepper, a Bulgarian table will have three condiments: salt, paprika and savory."
interesting
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
5:24 PM
Not very usual around here either, but still known, unlike cilantro.
 
Katey Ψ
Katey Ψ
Ohh, that is fascinating.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
I don't use it that often, but I like it with some dishes.
I wouldn't make rice stuffed peppers without it.
And the nice thing is that it still tastes great when dried. Many other herbs lose a lot in the drying process.
For example, I find dried tarragon practically useless. Tastes like paper.
 
rfusca
rfusca
i don't care for tarragon in general
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
I don't like it much either. It has this heavy, musty taste. If paired with fat, it makes me gag. But in small quantities, it can balance a dish.
 
rfusca
rfusca
ya
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
6:01 PM
I like tarragon in small amounts with egg or cheese. Very anise-like.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
6:12 PM
You might just have stumbled upon the reason why I don't like it.
I hate anise, but never noticed a similarity with tarragon.
Now I'm ready with work and should go home.
I just wonder, should I buy groceries, cook them, download the new Ubuntu and update my computer.
 
rfusca
rfusca
how'd your big meeting go today btw
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
Or should I leave it be and go have a döner for dinner.
@rfusca OK, considering the circumstances.
Nobody had checked my Excel evaluations, and we just wrote the results into the paper we sent for peer review.
Afterwards, my coworker noticed a problem.
 
rfusca
rfusca
@rumtscho thats good...ouch thats not
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
Last night, I evaluated the correct data, and the results are very good with the correct evaluation.
But the problem is, why were they so good with the wrong evaluation?
The "wrong" evaluation isn't a wrong method here. The raw data came as integers in the range of 1 to 6, and I considered 6 to be best and 1 the worst.
Turns out 6 was worst and 1 best.
This means that my evaluation produced nice high correlations where one wouldn't expect to find any.
 
rfusca
rfusca
or your methodology in general for determining correlation is incorrect
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
6:20 PM
And we are afraid that the method I used is flawed and produces high correlation no matter what data it is fed.
I don't know if it is the methodology, or my hurried implementation of it.
 
rfusca
rfusca
ya, thats what i said lol
ah, ic
did you feed it random data as a test?
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
So today, I spent the day after the meeting specifying my method as pseudo code
(nobody on the team had been interested in seeing a specification before that)
And tomorrow, they will try to get an external specialist to look at it, while I try to reimplement in something completely different and see if it produces the same results as my Excel implementation.
Which means that I'll probably have to learn R tomorrow :(
 
rfusca
rfusca
nice
I've dabbled in R
PostgreSQL has PL/R for working with R inside of a database. Its nice.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
I haven't, ever. And I've never used a specialized statistics software before.
But at least I'm not afraid of a command line.
 
rfusca
rfusca
@rumtscho oh, you may have a bit of a learning curve
well thats good
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
6:26 PM
Let's see. My test was rather easy, dividing the data in two sets, calculating average and variance for each, and plugging them into a test statistic formula from a testbook.
No need to find out how to calculate a covariance matrix which is robust agains multicollinearity or other such statistical tricks.
 
tastefive
tastefive
6:42 PM
What do you do rumtscho?
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
@tastefive Ph. D. student in software engineering. Job position is "researcher".
 
tastefive
tastefive
Ah, that makes sense now. Awesome. When do you finish the Ph.D
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
@tastefive That's the rudest question you can ever ask a grad student :)
But I hope that I'll be ready in about a year.
Or, I am supposed to be ready in a year and two weeks, because this is how long my contract goes.
 
tastefive
tastefive
Didnt realize it was rude sorry :)
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
6:58 PM
This was not very serious. I just haven't met a Ph.D. student who hadn't trouble to answer it. And nobody who made it in the given time.
OK, I met one who made it when he said it. But first, he only had 4 months left, and second, he is just too good. Writing the Ph.D was probably as easy for him as third grade for me.
A few universities and CERN fought over who'll get him as postdoc :)
 
rfusca
rfusca
lol
 
tastefive
tastefive
:)
 
rfusca
rfusca
i had a friend who graduated with his PhD from MIT by 22
i thought that was pretty nutz
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
OK, "fought" is exaggerating. But they would all have taken him if he'd wanted to go to them.
 
tastefive
tastefive
Nice
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
7:03 PM
@rfusca Yes, that's the category of people I'm talking about. My chance to say, in twenty or thirty years "what, this Nobel laureate guy? We used to drink beer together when he was at Heidelberg".
 
rfusca
rfusca
ya for me 'he was my best friend in kindergarten' :D
i'm a very intelligent guy by most standards, free rides through college, highly regarded, but I just never had that much drive to excel academically at the cost of everything else
my boss told me on my last evaluation that he's glad I won't move because he's afraid they'd lose me otherwise lol
people who are wicked smart like that and do well that early just have a drive
 
tastefive
tastefive
@rfusca that's always good to hear.
My boss is a jerk.
 
rfusca
rfusca
hmm?
my currently boss isn't 'nice' like my previous boss was. But he's come to respect the fact that I'm rarely wrong and give me the benefit of the doubt to start off with
 
tastefive
tastefive
@rfusca well that is at least something?
 
rfusca
rfusca
when he was first over me it was always like 'why would we do it like that!?!' and now its more like 'there's a reason I'm not seeing for what you're doing, can you explain it?'
@tastefive indeed
but he works like 600 miles from me. The boss over everybody else in this particular office except me is a total jerk.
I don't report to him but it doesn't mean he can't try to make my life hellish
 
tastefive
tastefive
7:12 PM
That isn't good. I am sure he treats you as if you are his report.
 
rfusca
rfusca
he does at times
he's been rather sheepish since I yelled at him last week in front of all of his reports lol
 
tastefive
tastefive
Awesome. Last time I did that I was laid off.
 
rfusca
rfusca
Ouch
Ya, you gotta pick your moments.
 
tastefive
tastefive
Not really, probably the best thing that could have happened to me.
But I do miss the income from that place.
 
rfusca
rfusca
He was already in hot water with his managers and I didn't say anything that was untrue. He had tried to frame me for something and then the next day tried to pawn a whole bunch of his work off on me - if he'd have gone to his management about it it would have opened a can of worms he didn't want open
ya
thats what i'm struggling with
i can't afford to not be here, but this place sucks
 
tastefive
tastefive
7:19 PM
Yeah similar situation here. Told the truth the Ceo and stakeholders about huge issues within the department and why werent hitting out measurable and had cause a few million in lost revenue. Needless to say, the boss didn't look good. I wasn't going to throw him under the bus but he tried to blame me, so I just told the complete truth about the situation.
 
rfusca
rfusca
ya, its pretty crazy living in corporate america
 
tastefive
tastefive
Yep, I just new I wasn't going to just let him push the fault on me. Ge got chewed out by everyone there. I was let ho very shortly after.
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
I feel very naive about such things. I still work for the same company that hired me out of college.
It makes me wonder, sometimes, what software development is like at other places.
Admittedly stories like these don't make me eager to switch jobs.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
aaaargh!
has any of you ever used ssh from Windows?
I installed PuTTY
and I am trying to do a scp
but have no idea whatsoever how to input the path
C:/Users/... results in "ssh: Could not resolve hostname C: Name or service not known"
 
tastefive
tastefive
@Sobachatina if you are happy were you are, no reason to switch to another.
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
7:34 PM
@tastefive I agree of course but when it's the only job I've had I have to wonder.
@rumtscho I use putty and ssh all the time but I've never had to do an scp.
 
tastefive
tastefive
@rumtscho so you are trying to do a secure copy to one of your own internal drives?
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
@tastefive I want to secure copy a file I developed locally to a web server
The file is on my internal drive
and the admin told me to access the server over ssh
so that's how I am doing it
 
tastefive
tastefive
K
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
Any direction of slashes results in the same problem.
 
tastefive
tastefive
@rumtscho I just use WinScp for that. It graphical and not commandline
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
7:40 PM
@tastefive Never knew about that one.
I think I figured out.
Turns out PuTTY has a special command line tool inaccesible from the GUI.
 
tastefive
tastefive
But for putting and pscp I think the patch need to be like user@server:this/path/to/file
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
yup, it functioned.
@tastefive It was pscp I didn't know about.
but yes, it works.
 
tastefive
tastefive
Cool
So do we thinks the rangers will win tonight:)
 
rfusca
rfusca
@Sobachatina i still work for the place that hired me while I was in college. I can only think..."it must be better elsewhere"
@tastefive truth be told, i don't follow much in the way of sports
consider it lucky that I know you're talking about baseball
 
tastefive
tastefive
@rfusca that's ok i'll just count that a yes.
TThat way we won't have to be enemies :)
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
7:53 PM
@tastefive A couple coworkers would say yes. I don't know if that counts for anything.
@rfusca I saw my first football game last month.
It was enlightening.
 
tastefive
tastefive
@Sobachatina it works for me.
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
I considered it sociological research.
I was surprised to find that it was actually entertaining.
 
tastefive
tastefive
Ha
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
It helped that I was at the game with a coworker who is very well versed on the subject.
So he was able to explain nuances of the game that would have otherwise left me clueless.
I supported my hypothesis that it is primarily interesting because of the group social aspect.
The second part of my experiment that I haven't been able to test yet is that it is impossible to start watching football by yourself on TV.
Now that I'm contaminated I need a new control group.
 
rumtscho
rumtscho
@sobachatina I am not able to watch soccer on TV with a group.
Soccer fills the same social niche here I think.
But maybe I am an outlier.
Concerning sports, I mean. I definitely like them less than the average person.
Now that I have extinguished that little fire too (the file I had to change and copy to the server), I am really going home this time.
What a week. Started with my computer not turning on Monday morning and went downhill from there.
And it isn't even finished yet.
So, good night all. And I promise not to look at my emails before I turn the PC off.
 
rfusca
rfusca
8:18 PM
@Sobachatina got my free samples of that temp sensor in. even free shipping. Only took 3 days even.
two, totally free sensors
 
rfusca
rfusca
8:30 PM
@Sobachatina my high school history teacher surmised that an African tribal would have no issue 'figuring out' american football. Its tribal war. You paint your face, run and try to get to the other teams 'alter' and then you desecrate it when you succeed .
 
tastefive
tastefive
@rfusca that's a great analogy
But the african tribal the same rules
 
Sobachatina
Sobachatina
@rfusca That is awesome. Samples always seem kind of like magic.
@rfusca I'm afraid I'm going to have to use "desecrate the enemy altar" the next time I'm talking about a touchdown.
That's perfect.
 
rfusca
rfusca
8:48 PM
:D
 

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