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2:23 AM
@cegaton You made a mistake
@cegaton The 6D isn't ASP-C (~25 mm across) Its fullframe (~36mm across)... much larger sensor! — GiantCowFilms 2 mins ago
Please fix :D
 
@GiantCowFilms indeed, for some reason I got confused with the 60d
 
@cegaton yah no worries
 
@GiantCowFilms I think we could make the popup a little smaller, and not display the url field (since its filled automaticallly)
 
:D all good
@gandalf3 That would be a pain to implement, but sure...
@gandalf3 it needs to refuse to upload on the new question page too
 
@GiantCowFilms Could just display: none; it in the css ;)
 
2:27 AM
since that URL is invalid
 
ah, I'll make it so the button isn't even there in such cases
 
@gandalf3 that means adding custom css to that page which is tricky since the head tags are applied globally
@gandalf3 :D
nip it in the bud!
@gandalf3 I'll see what I can cook up
 
@GiantCowFilms Could use a style attribute, it's already a hackish solution
A little more can't hurt :P
 
@gandalf3 I think I have a solution
 
Okay
 
2:29 AM
works only with HTML5 compatible browsers though :/
...I think we may need a little better support then that!
 
Oh, the hidden attribute?
 
the style can work, just harder to add....
since the upload box is also applied globally!
I'll add the feature when I have a moment, which isn't now....
just assume that its gone :D
 
Isn't the embed thing a separate php file?
 
I'll kill it today most likely or tommorw
 
okay
 
2:31 AM
@gandalf3 This is what it looks like:
<?php include("../parts/head.php"); ?>
<body style="width: 600px;">
<?php

$questionLink = $_GET["qurl"];
?><div style="margin-top: 20px;"></div><?php
include("../parts/uploadPage.php");

?>
<span>By using this service you agree to our <a href="/terms">terms of service</a></span>
<script src="/jquery.js"></script>
<script src="/dropzone.js"></script>
<script src="/upload.js"></script>
</body>
</html>
 
ahh
I see
I'll leave it to you then :P
 
I'll add a config option to fix it
 
/me *starts doing all the things he said he'd do*
 
@gandalf3 :D I'm getting there
@NoviceInDisguise @someonewithpc @cegaton @stacker @VinceScalia @VinceScalia @iKlsR @AWildRolandiXor @David @X-27 and everyone else Lookie! blend uploads are now a piece of cake!
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A: Announcing: Blend-exchange a new solution to .blend hosting

gandalf3Here is a userscript which allows for file to be uploaded from the editor on blender.stackexchange. Written by @GiantCowFilms and myself, and based on the kbd script. It's still in a bit of an alpha state, so come back for updates if you try it out now!

 
Awesome!
 
2:39 AM
@gandalf3 The updated dialog will have TOS link that needs to be visible.
 
Okay
 
I'll update it on the server now
 
3:15 AM
@GiantCowFilms BTW, is there any particular reason behind the name of the popup?
"1424873319323"?
 
@gandalf3 No... I was wondering what that was, I got the code from a webresource....
 
Oh
It's the name :P
 
Change it to somthing cool like blend-exchange portal
 
I'll change to something more like that
 
:D
Blend-exchange: Upload portal
@gandalf3 ^^ I think would be nice
 
3:17 AM
Sure
I guess we are going Blend-exchange and not BlendExchange? (More StackExchangy)
 
@gandalf3 Yes... I'm keeping dash so it isn't too stackexchangy, since this isn't officall... and I kind of like it
 
ok..
Blend-Exchange?
 
@gandalf3 update the tool tip to match the name
@gandalf3 Nope, one capital, just to be backwards!
 
Okay okay
:P
 
@gandalf3 lol, We've got to get our brand image consistent here.... :P
 
3:20 AM
<sub>I just like BlendExchange..</sub>
hm
 
consumers may be confused.... especially the ones who write duplicates of there own questions
 
lol
 
@gandalf3 Well if you really wan't to change ALOT of text the fine if you really really thinks it makes that much of a difference.... oh wait, the links will be bust....
This could be a very messy change
just to kill a dash and add a capital letter
 
I like Blend-Exchange too
That wouldn't be so bad, as the url and everything would stay the same
 
@gandalf3 just for a capital letter is beyond me...
But maybe... hmm... this is a community project...
If you really really really really really want to change it, I'll update the repo when I'm done tonight, you can fork it/branch it and make the change then ship it back, that includes the images, sigh
 
3:23 AM
@GiantCowFilms :P I just really like the way it came out here i.stack.imgur.com/gSS49.png
 
I'm not a fan of bold-thin logos....
 
No? I like them
 
@gandalf3 Yah, thats just me...
they aren't bad but they aren't amazing either... hmm...
 
Well, I'll leave it, since you are the manager, you ought to have it the way you like..
 
@gandalf3 fine, the dash has to stay but if you wan't we can add a capital, hopefully the world won't end!
 
3:25 AM
XD
Soo are we adding it or not?
 
@gandalf3 This is a community project and I need to listen to ya'lls I'm just hopelessly stubbern
@gandalf3 the capital?
 
Yes
Think of it as a theme thing
 
to the script if you wan't, but I'll give you the thumbs up when the repo is ready for abuse.
...which isn't now
 
all right
 
...I have to update the folder names... oh boy this will be quite something!
@gandalf3 leave the embed image to me though... much easier on this end
 
3:27 AM
Okay
I won't do anything to anything until you give the okay on the repo
 
Blend-Exchange....
 
Normally I'm all for sentence capitalization, but it just looks weird to me with the hyphen and the lower case letter
@GiantCowFilms Though I might do things to it when I get around to implementing the new theme and layout
 
@gandalf3 Wich are you going for, I'm rather fond of the embed image...
Theme wise... what are you working on....
 
Which?
There are two?
 
@gandalf3 Ah
So a dark theme and a light theme...
 
3:32 AM
:P
 
I think if you could make it so that a class gets added to the body for the dark theme that would be best
 
@GiantCowFilms Oh, with a user preference?
 
@gandalf3 Yup!
stored in a long term cookie, so hopefully you only have to set it once in a blue moon
 
Nice idea
 
@gandalf3 Yah, class can be called
darkTheme
 
3:33 AM
What about loading a different stylesheet, selected based on the cookie? Is a class easier?
 
@gandalf3 We'd have to have 3... one for the structure and 2 for the theme so one doesn't fall out of date
everything but the color needs to be in the same place
 
That seems reasonable.. Doesn't it?
 
But other then that the separate style sheets are fine, only a handful of lines of code
 
Actually sounds kind of nice having it organized that way
 
@gandalf3 Yah...
really easy to theme
I think the image should stay light theme... just to keep things somewhat simple, since the background is transparent
@gandalf3 the tooltip for the userscript needs to have the Alt-B shortcut in it!
 
3:36 AM
@GiantCowFilms ik
Already changed on my local copy here ;)
 
@gandalf3 :D
I'm working with adding admin tools to handle flags... I was thinking possible you the mods and 1-2 other people could have access..
But first I need to kill that pesky question input
 
?
 
@gandalf3 ? admin tools for Blend-Exchagne
people can flag stuff
 
No, the question input
question input?
What is question input??
:P
 
@gandalf3 the question link input in the embed
 
3:40 AM
ah
right
duh
 
@gandalf3 It is dead :D
 
Yay, that was fast
 
I push changes quickly...
update 2 files with 1 line of code each, save, drag from one window 2 anther... and done!
Of course I test....
but that adds only a handful more steps
 
4:13 AM
Yay it works
 
@gandalf3 :D
 
The Blend-Exchange wormhole portal vortex uploader thingyâ„¢ now appears in the middle of the browser window, regardless of size and/or position
 
@gandalf3 Okay, that is good
very good
nice touch... polish is very nice
 
Should I remove all the debugging prints?
 
@gandalf3 You mean the console stuff?
I wouldn't, or at least I'd have a config variable to turn it back on
 
4:16 AM
yes, all the console.log things
 
Nah...
or a config variable, they are very useful
 
@GiantCowFilms I was wondering how to do that
Do I have to have an if for every log?
 
@gandalf3 much easier, overwrite console.log
 
I saw something about re-defining console.log
XD
 
create console._log = console.log
 
4:18 AM
That won't affect other scripts?
 
and then set console.log to a function to check the config the console._log()
@gandalf3 try it and see... really easy to undo
 
true
 
4:30 AM
@gandalf3 You have go ahead on name changes, just be done before tommorrow morning or the merge could get messy :D
 
@GiantCowFilms Okay
@GiantCowFilms BTW why did you link to our meta users? Why not the main site?
(Just wondering)
 
4:43 AM
@gandalf3 Wait...?
oh right...
@gandalf3 That was a mistake
 
oh :P
 
fixed!
 
BTW have you tested the userscript on chrome?
 
@gandalf3 I'm on chrome, always
 
I take it it works then?
 
4:44 AM
@gandalf3 Yup
 
Great :D
 
Now IE.....
....on the other hand
 
I can't test IE or safari (do they even have an extensions/addons framework?)
 
@gandalf3 Oh good point, besides, if someone is using IE they can do without nice things like userscripts.... serves 'em right for killing web devlopers
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Yep
 
4:47 AM
@gandalf3 ;D
 
5:02 AM
@gandalf3 Feel free to upload blends to test, just give them an obvious name, and flag them as abuse of service when you're done.
 
5:41 AM
@GiantCowFilms I did a few.. I found a bug in the embed code insertion, so there might be a lot while I test ;)
@GiantCowFilms BTW, why html for the embed code? did pure markdown not work?
 
 
2 hours later…
7:49 AM
@GiantCowFilms I got this warning, and the file is now empty: Warning: file_get_contents(): Filename cannot be empty in /var/www/blend-exchange/finish/index.php on line 46
 
 
1 hour later…
8:56 AM
@GiantCowFilms BTW the cancel button doesn't work in the popup (not that I expected it too, is it even possible to close a frame from the inside?), so it probably should be removed from the popup at least..
 
9:18 AM
@GiantCowFilms The bug I found is that double clicking on the icon adds multiple event handlers (sometimes it can open two windows too), which in turn wreaks havoc spam inserting embed code multiple times (it seems to get a bit jumbled too).

Also, the shortcut Alt+B is taken here on firefox (alt opens file, view, etc. menu and B goes to bookmarks). Even then FF blocks the popup when called from the shortcut (it also says it's blocking two popups, perhaps worth investigating that).
And error messages can sometimes utterly bork the css (probably will get fixed with new design):
 
 
3 hours later…
12:16 PM
@stacker PHP error looks like
 
 
2 hours later…
2:18 PM
@stacker Odd will look into it
@gandalf3 On my todo
@stacker But why would it be empty
looking into it
@gandalf3 not to worry, but abuse of service is the third flagging option, not other
@gandalf3 the new tagline doesn't work
@stacker @stacker try again, to you sill get the error, I can't reporduce it
@gandalf3 No, when that happens the page shouldn't even show
@gandalf3 Page now gives error
@stacker investigating possible causes
@stacker how big was the file to start
@stacker was the file over 8MB, if it was I know what caused the bug, it should be fixed
@stacker experment shows that if the file was over 8MB it would have cause the exact same error, now files can go upto 30MB and not break the system, I did bring it down from 50MB for now, unless it is needed.
@stacker good catch
 
3:08 PM
@GiantCowFilms It was the file I linked here: blender.stackexchange.com/questions/26273/…
 
@stacker Yah... it still doesn't like large files... looking into it
at least I know why its unhappy
@stacker You can no upload the file, I found the setting I forgot
@stacker that no was a now
The sytem no works with large fiels
(this is why it is still in alpha :P)
 
3:27 PM
@GiantCowFilms A file limit php or apache drupal.org/node/97193
 
@stacker Fixed it now, but it still cant do over 20 mb 'cuase of the google drive API, working to fix it
@stacker it should handle that file perfectly though.
 
@GiantCowFilms I would not have the image in each question that says "hosted by blend exchange", that is very close to spam in the eyes of SE. I understand you wanting to get your site out there, so you could use something like this [blend file][6] [6]: blend-exchange.giantcowfilms.com/b/16 "hosted on blend-exchange"
 
@David hmm good point... I may make the image more subtle I think, but I'm keeping it an image so I can change things later
(even make it look like text)
@David Yes I was thinking just a single piece of text saying .blend file.
 
@GiantCowFilms I would not use the image, it is not needed as it is just a link to the blend. Anything more then that and it does venture in to the spam territory.
 
@David But then I'm forever stuck with the wording I choose....
 
3:32 PM
@GiantCowFilms in markdown the quotes after the URL will be the tool tip, so if you really want to you could put blend exchange there.
@GiantCowFilms yep. Think of the "download this on mediafire" etc picture links, they really do not add anything to the post.
 
@David I'm not worried about spreading the brand as much as changeability, I'd happliy make it look just like text, but I wan't to change it in the future I'd lie to...
 
@GiantCowFilms hmm, well then I'd be back to my no text in images point. If it is text, it should be text.
 
@David I'll think about this.... you can always not use the image if you want
 
@GiantCowFilms besides, if you have a simple "blend file" link there is no need to change the wording of it. It is only if you have some more elaborate (picture) that you would want to edit it later.
 
I think I'll leave it just for now so people see the name...
@David I don't think se would mind a decorative link... if it has 0 branding on it
They don't like stuff that looks like external advertising
 
3:39 PM
@GiantCowFilms I know, but if everybody starts it now then we find out that, say SE does not want links like that, we would have to go back and edit all the questions. I know if this was on a bigger site like SO, it definitely would be flagged as spam.
 
@David Lets re-frame this....
I'm a user, who cares about the way things look, so on my paste all links I use an image with a file icon....
...I don't think that would be marked as spam
 
@GiantCowFilms link to an example?
 
@David people are usually to lazy :D...
 
(I don't think I've ever seen one like that)
 
@David True true ture....
 
3:42 PM
Me neither
Good idea though, my OCD would be pleased
 
@NoviceInDisguise OCD?
 
@David fine :'( I'll :'( change :'( :''(
... snif snif
it
@NoviceInDisguise Yay I'm not the only OCD person here
:D
 
Things should be just so or trash, in between is annoying. I find myself putting shades at all the same heights . . .
Nothing bothers me more than going by a school with uneven window shades :(
 
@NoviceInDisguise can't say as that I have ever had that problem.
 
@GiantCowFilms :D
 
3:45 PM
@NoviceInDisguise Oh your lucky...
I sometimes actually twitch
:O
 
are you two really serious?
 
@David yup
 
(and that was a real question)
 
@David Lucky you . . . Bothers me like crazy. On my sister's violin case there are several little rings to attach straps to, they all have to point the same way or I get annoyed
@David Yes
I find if everything is a mess it is almost better, I can tune out to a degree . . . for a while at least
 
wow, I never would of guessed
 
3:47 PM
@David In a class or something, I'll drag a chair all the way across the room with everybody staring if the seat is to worn out or dirty
@NoviceInDisguise If everything is consistently bad it is fine....
 
Exactly
 
...its the inconsistency which kills me
 
@GiantCowFilms just choose a different spot
 
@GiantCowFilms Precisely
 
@David That wouldn't be an option either
I alwasy sit in the same place in every class every day
 
3:48 PM
you two should apply this song to your problem
 
THAT one?!
 
just let it go
 
@David @David could you ignore a thumtack if you were sitting on it
 
3:49 PM
@David that song alone is enough to make me twitch
 
^^ Especially the Indina Menzel version
(or whatever her name is)
 
@GiantCowFilms depends, outside when I'm all bundled up, defiantly (and it has happened)
 
@David No, if it penetrated your flesh
@VinceScalia more blood!
 
My little brother had an entire box of thumb-tacks in his bed once, he had been putting up posters and forgot to put them away. They went everywheres!
 
@NoviceInDisguise Yikes
 
3:52 PM
@GiantCowFilms no, I would pick it out and throw it in the trash. Not rearrange the entire room, look for any renegade tacks, change in to my favorite shirt, then take my seat.
 
I don't get how he didn't notice . . . what I really don't like is when they migrate to my part of the room . . .
 
@David What I'm saying is having certain things wrong is like sitting on a thumbtack, you would do something about it.
 
@GiantCowFilms found (kind of a) bug.
preg_match('/http:\/\/blender.stackexchange.com\/questions\/[0-9]+\/[a-z-#0-9\/‌​]+$/',$questionUrl
 
@David what?
@David yes...?
 
only http://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/24886/how-do-i-emit-light-from-insid‌​e-a-object matches
 
4:03 PM
@David what should match
 
http://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/24886 and http://blender.stackexchange.com/q/24886 are also valid urls for that question.
 
Hmmm
I'll have to fix that
 
I can write up a fix if you want
@GiantCowFilms why are you running the url check any way?
is it because you block uploads to question you already answered??
 
@GiantCowFilms did your lawyer write all those terms?
 
@VinceScalia No I found a site to generate them... they aren't great
 
4:12 PM
Looked fine to me. I'm impressed.
I was just wondering how you or your employees/shareholders could cause me death via that site.
 
@GiantCowFilms are you even selling stocks?
or are you a NPO?
 
@VinceScalia Oh right lol :P
 
@GiantCowFilms ?^^
What?
 
@VinceScalia By making you wait so long for the file you die of dehydration
 
4:20 PM
@GiantCowFilms LOL
 
@VinceScalia If I sold stocks I'd have to make not lose money
@VinceScalia I wonder if that would cause any blood to be visible :P
 
@GiantCowFilms Not from dehydration.
 
@VinceScalia rats...
I guess I'd need to figure out how to get the site to stab you
 
you'd just shrivel into a raisin.
 
@GiantCowFilms one the only good thing I found out by reading you long tos is where you live.
 
4:22 PM
window.knife.stab();
@David Where does it say, USA?
 
That's what my internet shields are for.
 
@GiantCowFilms do you want me to put it here?
 
@David Sure...
I didn't give it to 'em
 
@NoviceInDisguise you just gonna interject with "XD" every now and then?
XD
 
4:23 PM
XD
 
Law and jurisdiction NEVADA, USA
 
@David That is wrong!
 
Or yes.
 
It was raining yesterday
 
4:23 PM
@GiantCowFilms it was close enough for me
 
@David I should fix that
 
@GiantCowFilms it rained in texas yesterday.
 
it should just be the USA
@VinceScalia yah but it rains way way more then navada here
 
and take out the part about death.
@GiantCowFilms in texas?
 
@VinceScalia No just liablity protection, incase some sorry idiots manages to kill himself using my site
 
4:24 PM
it snow here in CO
 
@GiantCowFilms I dont know why you have to have such a long and lawyer ish type of tos.
 
@David It was auto generated!
it came out like that
I'm not going to write one, I'd totally mess it up
 
It's humorous at least. good literature if you're bored.
reaaally bored
 
why cant you just say, look the file you give to use can be used however anybody wants, it may be lost or deleted. If you do something dumb and loose your file dont come and sue us.
 
4:26 PM
XD
 
Just say. You can't sue us.
BOOM! I should be a lawyer.
 
Not . . .
 
@David I may rewrite it once I've gotten big file upload support and a few other things
 
@NoviceInDisguise Don't ruin my moment here.
 
@VinceScalia that line will be $32.50
 
4:27 PM
@David one more zero.
lawyers are expensive
 
@VinceScalia But they could take you to court for having an unreasonable TOS since you shake off any liability for your actions which makes you above the law
 
$32.500
@GiantCowFilms True
 
@NoviceInDisguise what'd I say about my moment?
 
@NoviceInDisguise That will be $500
 
4:28 PM
Wait, what? You are the guy writing the TOS . . .
 
later guys lawyers
 
@David Bye @David
 
there is only one of me
 
@David You never noticed the other one?
 
@David Bye @David
 
4:29 PM
@GiantCowFilms Don't sue us for anything that happens on this site, excepting murder, felony, theft, sudden loss of hair, dehydration, Yiddish writing, loss of consciousness.
4
 
@NoviceInDisguise Quick edit or the other one will be offended!
@VinceScalia XD
 
@David bye @David
 
Yiddish writing is so something to sue about.
 
@GiantCowFilms not above the law anymore, are we?
 
@GiantCowFilms like that
 
4:30 PM
@GiantCowFilms Just don't do any and you're Okay.
I was going to write fine but... yeahhhhh..
 
@GiantCowFilms , trying to be @NoviceInDisguise with that "XD"
 
@GiantCowFilms you made it a reply though.
2 mins ago, by GiantCowFilms
@VinceScalia XD
55 secs ago, by NoviceInDisguise
XD
See the difference?
 
@VinceScalia Nice attention to detail, you'd be good at impersonating others... ever been to my chatapp
 
4:33 PM
@someonewithpc @CharlesL and @gandalf3 remeber that well
 
?!?!?!
 
@VinceScalia Clearly not....
its not runn'n though
 
4:55 PM
@GiantCowFilms I do... Ever since then, I make sure to always have an helmet nearby, just in case :P
 
@someonewithpc :D
puts helmet on
 

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