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radp
radp
3:00 PM
@balpha I guess Opera Mobile joins the IE7 club.
 
balpha
balpha
opera mini has never worked
because it doesn't do javascript
 
radp
radp
sorry, fixed.
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
Which meta backlog?
 
radp
radp
@MarcGravell the 39.5k messages here
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
Ouch; and you really truly need that? I can migrate it, but...
 
rchern
rchern
3:03 PM
<PSA> everyone breathe easy. stackflair.com/SEChatModifications.user.js now @includes chat.stackexchange. (uninstall and reinstall from the link since it is a metadata change </PSA>
>_>
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
Can someone pin that link for me ^^^ I'm on iPod...
 
radp
radp
@MarcGravell hey, I'm not the one who's moving chat sites around. We have 12k messages on chat.Gaming too.
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
@rchern Yes
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Problem with Chat: Blood coming out of my eyes every time someone @-mentions me.
5
 
rchern
rchern
Hmm, if I can pin a link to it, let's do this...
 
Piers Myers
Piers Myers
3:04 PM
@YiJiang :)
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
@YiJiang I think you already reported that :)
 
user30
@YiJiang What?
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
13 mins ago, by Yi Jiang
Holy! Feature Request: Change @-mention color from blood red NAO!!!
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Arrrgg!! The red shows up in the sidebars of other rooms too. There's no escape!!!
 
rchern
rchern
Keyboard shortcuts and /commands for chat: Install Link and Github site
6
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
3:06 PM
takes pen, digs eye out
 
balpha
balpha
the color is pretty, ain't it?
3
 
user30
@MichaelMrozek Yes, I was adding to the waterfall of cascading blood
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
Do we /blame @balpha or /blame @Jin here?
 
rchern
rchern
(is that ok to pin?)
 
radp
radp
unicorn blood
 
balpha
balpha
3:07 PM
blame jin; I just took the color from se.com
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
We've stopped blaming @rchern for everything? When did that happen?
Particularly everything chat-related -- she did write it after all
 
rchern
rchern
shrugs and assumes yes. somebody else can unpin if they feel strongly about it
@MichaelMrozek, pfft
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@balpha dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
radp
radp
hrm, btw now I can annoy much more people with futile flagging!!
(wishes he could watch the above message get futile flagged.)
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
I wonder if there's a rep penalty getting flagged here
 
radp
radp
3:08 PM
now I need to lose even more meta rep to get my badp identity here. :/
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
@radp If you go to your profile you can choose which identity shows up
 
rchern
rchern
You can select....dammit @MichaelMrozek type slower
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
@radp - see your profile page: you can choose
 
radp
radp
oh, that wasn't very obvious.
Thanks for that at any rate.
 
rchern
rchern
@MarcGravell, looked at your chat.SO notifications recently?
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
3:10 PM
No - I'm on ipod
If it was a reply to my invite, it was about chat.SE
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
I don't even know how it's possible to chat from an ipod, but hopefully it involves scrolling the selector wheel furiously, because imagining that is highly amusing
 
rchern
rchern
oh, right. just wondering what that invitation you sent me was for >_>
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Right, as a punishment for making the @-mention color red, I shall retaliate by posting THIS:
 
Piers Myers
Piers Myers
@MichaelMrozek I suspect it's one of those new fangled ipods with a touch screen he's got
 
badp
badp
@YiJiang not enough colours
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
3:13 PM
@PiersMyers Ah. I'm a bit behind on ipod advancements
So everyone has to refresh to see changed identities, it looks like. Is that intentional?
 
Piers Myers
Piers Myers
I like the salmon pink notify colour, it's not blood red at all - your monitor (or eyes) must be knackered @YiJiang
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@badp Stop @-mentioning me from another room!!! Large blotches of the sidebar turning blood red is not funny!!!
 
badp
badp
@YiJiang What other room?
The other rooms are a lie.
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@PiersMyers Your brightness is turned on too high
 
Piers Myers
Piers Myers
@YiJiang that red/yellow flashing image is hurting my eyes though
 
Brant
Brant
3:17 PM
We just have to keep talking until it scrolls off the screen, I guess.
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@PiersMyers There, feel my pain. Muhahahahahahahahaha..... ha.
 
user30
Alright, it's just gone off the screen on my Macbook, my eyes can return to normal
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
Can we request that rooms be imported from MSO chat, or should we just lose the chat histories there?
 
Piers Myers
Piers Myers
do we need to supply our own packing boxes and bubble wrap?
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
@Michael - I moved the obvious SE ones; did I miss your room?
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
3:20 PM
Unless it's here already and I totally missed it, but I didn't see it in the list
I created a new room here with the same title/description, but you can delete it
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
Importing now. Give it a minute.
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
@MarcGravell Great! Thanks
Into a new room, or is it just replacing the existing one?
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
Take a look in the existing room here .
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@MarcGravell Where?
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
@MarcGravell Ah, I had to refresh. Thanks again
 
Piers Myers
Piers Myers
3:27 PM
the avatars from imported messages in other rooms don't seem to have worked
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
I @MichaelMrozek wonder @MarcGravell how @mbq how @rchern many @RowlandShaw @-mentions @CRoss can @PiersMyers I @Brant stuff @badp into @balpha a @BryanDenny single @Iszi message @ThomasMcDonald
 
Brant
Brant
Aah, my eyes! The blood!
 
user30
I get the unicorn blood highlighting, but I'm pretty sure I didn't get a notification
 
C. Ross
C. Ross
It got to me ... don't do that again pelase
 
balpha
balpha
I think it's capped at 10
 
badp
badp
3:28 PM
@YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang @YiJiang
Count the ones that are highlighted :P
 
rchern
rchern
are you tempting me to add a setTimeout to notify you over and over and over @YiJiang?
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
There is a limit. Anyone trying to find the limit is likely to get a temp gagging order ;)
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@badp All of them.... my eyes... ze goggles... zey do nothing!
 
badp
badp
inb4gaggingorder.
 
rchern
rchern
@MarcGravell, @MichaelMrozek was trying. get rid of him!
hides
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
3:29 PM
@rchern I'm not that foolish -- I just try and trick other people into breaking the rules instead
high-fives @YiJiang
 
C. Ross
C. Ross
remember @YiJiang half the room has the ability to mute you :-)
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
Serious note;
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
Speaking of which, there's no way to have a separate active profile for each room we're in, is there?
I'd like to use my Unix profile in the Unix room, and my SO or MSO profile everywhere else
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
Sandbox for testing, general for general.
 
rchern
rchern
all in favor of @MarcGravell not making serious notes, say aye...
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
3:31 PM
Guess what should be in "chat feedback"?
 
badp
badp
Talking about the chat
Not talking about what should be discussed in chat feedback
That's for meta chat feedback
please get back on topic :P
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@MarcGravell Annoying-devs into implementing our feature requests
 
mbq
mbq
From where is reputation in the general SE rooms?
 
badp
badp
Half the room can migrate messages, the fact they don't means it's not required.
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
Are you calling us "annoying devs" ;)
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
3:32 PM
@mbq If you go to your profile you can choose which SE site is your "active" one; that's the one your gravatar, display name and rep come from in every room
I was just asking if it's possible to change that per-room, but I imagine the implementation of that would be painful
 
user30
@MarcGravell I think he is, yes
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
Excruciating
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@MarcGravell There, it's now clear :)
 
rchern
rchern
i think that is strike 2 against @YiJiang (;
 
mbq
mbq
@MichaelMrozek certainly; thanks for answer. I think it is better this way, your privileges propagate.
 
badp
badp
3:33 PM
@rchern you're at strike 8,613 with your unholy smilies :P
 
rchern
rchern
(:
8614!
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
 
badp
badp
@rchern -- raising the bar since 2001
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Should we make them blink too, so that they really get your attention?
 
badp
badp
@YiJiang did you mean... bouce?
 
Brant
Brant
3:35 PM
It'd be nice if you could show your combined network rep in your profile instead of just one of the sites, like on Area 51
2
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
@badp I hate you
 
badp
badp
@MichaelMrozek I'm sorry, I just can't forget bouncy
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
in The Tavern (General) on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, Oct 20 at 2:26, by Yi Jiang 
$.getScript('http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jqueryui/1.8.3/jquery-ui.min.js', function(){
    $('#present-user-150097 .user-gravatar32').effect('bounce', {
        distance: 20,
        times: 100
    }, 5000);
});
 
badp
badp
Oh          ow          ss
   Bo      h   do     mi   th
     u   ,       s           o
      n y         t I         u
       c                       ?
 
Brant
Brant
starts working on a greasemonkey script to add /figlet support
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
3:38 PM
@badp That was quite unintelligible in the right-panel
 
rchern
rchern

The SE Tavern

I'll bet you all pretend drinking fruity drinks with foreign n...
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
@rchern That doesn't sound like chat feedback -- maybe you should leave it in the General room
 
rchern
rchern
glares
 
badp
badp
@rchern you have mod rights, just migrate
 
rchern
rchern
moving old messages doesn't help much if people keep talking in here (;
@Brant, not that /figlet would be a great addition, but check out the pinned message (;
 
badp
badp
3:41 PM
@rchern did you not know? a complimentary invite to the target room is sent along with the migration.
It's quite effective really.
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@rchern Your lopsided glare doesn't work on us! Ha!
 
Brant
Brant
@rchern yeah, I'm using that now. It's nice.
 
badp
badp
Then again, the topic of the discussion has been the chat.
 
rchern
rchern
3:54 PM
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Q: Show only Web Application Chat rooms in the sidebar

chanchal1987I think it is better to show only Chat Rooms related to Web Application to the Web Application Chat Widget. Now it is showing all Chatrooms from http://chat.stackexchange.com/. Visitors may confused if all chatrooms are showing there.

discussion feature-request
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Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Hmmm... @Jin is online. I wonder if I should pull him into this room
 
rchern
rchern
I'd amend that to non-site-specific + that-specific-site but hrm
 
user30
4:11 PM
I love how the feeds user has an ID of -2
 
badp
badp
@ThomasMcDonald User IDs go all the way to -16 on MSO iirc
 
user30
mind = blown.
 
Rowland Shaw
Rowland Shaw
Reminds me of days doing data warehousing
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
Every time a new feeds-type user is made the ID is one less than the last
 
C. Ross
C. Ross
Presumably with everyone on the new site, the ids will go quiet low.
 
rchern
rchern
4:21 PM
Well, not all feeds that get added have their own user
 
badp
badp
@rchern Let me guess, that can't be migrated to MSO right?
 
rchern
rchern
ha
that would be asking far too much (;
 
C. Ross
C. Ross
ummm, the chat ads are useless now
why would RPG users care about "Photographic Memories"
 
user30
@CRoss See above
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
@rchern I need a change by @Kevin to fix that (ads). in a few hours it will e fixed.
 
Brant
Brant
4:28 PM
@CRoss Is this something I'd need to disable AdBlock to see? ;)
 
rchern
rchern
@MarcGravell, will rooms not associated with a site be included in the ads?
 
C. Ross
C. Ross
@Brant Not sure, disable it anyway ;-)
 
rchern
rchern
@CRoss, I think the correct answer here is that we need to go crash the party in the photo room.
 
Brant
Brant
Or wait, are you talking about the "Visit chat" links in the site sidebars... never mind.
 
rchern
rchern
@MarcGravell, while changes are being made...
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Q: "Sidebar Chat" needs to update

chanchal1987Chat is moved to the http://chat.stackexchange.com/. But still Sidebar Chat Widget showing links like http://chat.webapps.stackexchange.com/rooms/2. This links are redirects to the room correctly, but I think it is better to change the links.

discussion
 
C. Ross
C. Ross
4:30 PM
Does gaming (or any of the other SE sites) have actual ads yet?
 
user30
I've seen adverts for some of the *.se sites on SO
 
C. Ross
C. Ross
I meant actual paying advertisers pointing outside the network
I want SOIS to get (more?) profitable
 
user30
Aah, I believe not then
 
badp
badp
0
Q: Migration path from all metas to MSO

radpA migration path should be added from all metas to MSO so that engine related meta posts can be moved where they belong -- here. Examples: 1 2 3 4 5 6 ... Sure, some posts may need massaging before they can be made general enough for MSO to consume; that can be easily done before the migration ...

feature-request migration per-site-meta
 
rchern
rchern
@badp, dupe dupe dupe
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Q: Add a migration path from per-site meta sites to MSO to avoid dupes across sites

rchern Possible Duplicate: Migrate questions from meta stackexchange sites to meta.stackoverflow.com One issue that has come up with the new SE2.0 sites is where to post bug reports. We are seeing bug reports being posted both on Meta and per-site metas. Mods on these SE2.0 sites can genera...

feature-request migration per-site-meta
 
badp
badp
4:35 PM
@rchern voted
 
rchern
rchern
mine is closed, and the one mine got pointed to is pretty much status-denied even if the tag isn't officially there
 
C. Ross
C. Ross
what I like to call [status-wait-and-see]
 
rchern
rchern
[status-don't-hold-your-breath]
 
Rowland Shaw
Rowland Shaw
Isn't that [status-bydesign]?
 
 
1 hour later…
chanchal1987
chanchal1987
6:00 PM
Why StackOverflow Chat are not included here. StackOverflow is also a StackExchange website.
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
It's probably too late to fix it, but the imported rooms have reply posts that still use the old MSO chat post IDs
 
 
3 hours later…
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
8:51 PM
@chanchal1987 Actually, not strictly - it is part of the SE network, but it was never birthed through StackExchange. There is also an issue of scale.
@rchern no; site-targetted only
 
user30
9:07 PM
@MarcGravell The StackApps logo in chat is shown with beta underneath it, yet the logo on-site no longer has beta under it
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
investigating...
Have pinged internally; it will be fixed [when convenient]
 
rchern
rchern
@MarcGravell, ah, so General and such will never show on any of the house-chat-ads
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
Not as it stands, however, if we decide that would be desirable we can change it pretty easily
Do you think they should?
 
rchern
rchern
I'd think so. Isn't the purpose to show that there's activity in a room you may be interested in? And if the room isn't tied to a site, really it is tied to all sites.
 
badp
badp
Depends on how regularly per-site rooms are tagged as they are created
I guess seeing advertisements of unrelated rooms will bring moderators to tag rooms expeditiously, but who knows?
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
9:20 PM
Maybe, but I wonder if the current "chat feedback" and "general" topics aren't a bit unrelated to what most users want to see. Maybe we could add one in if there aren't enough busy site rooms, but I think the site's rooms should take precedence.
i.e. even if "general" is really active right now, most Q&A users would probably be more interested in the "flyfishing" rooms (if they are on flyfishing.SE)
and general is pretty much: "meta"
 
badp
badp
uh, 70% of our 60k messages are meta :P
 
C. Ross
C. Ross
but they're gaming meta (or OT really :-) ) not system meta
 
badp
badp
like game-rec flames, tagging flames, design flames, flames flames, ...
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
yes, but in the general rooms it is meta-meta ;p More "rampage" than "murder"
 
badp
badp
MULTI META!
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
9:24 PM
i.e. it isn't meta about flyfishing, it is meta about chat / SE
 
badp
badp
so this discussion is MEGA META!
 
rchern
rchern
I guess if I could individually pick I'd want the general room to show but not the chat feedback?
 
C. Ross
C. Ross
meta.chat.meta.stackexchange.com?
how deep does the rabbit hole go?
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
(goes for the guns)
 
badp
badp
the rabbit dug a kleiner bottle.
Keep digging.
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
9:25 PM
(but fumbles over a bracket, so is likely shot and bleeding by now)
 
C. Ross
C. Ross
speaking of guns
 
badp
badp
takes an ER Nanite Gun and repairs Marc
@MarcGravell Don't worry sir, I'm from Gaming.
 
C. Ross
C. Ross
 
badp
badp
now just walk over this med kit and you'll be fine.
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
hoorah! (and other gung-ho celebrations of my speedy recovery)
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
10:18 PM
@rchern - your request to make the host picker for rooms is going up now... not that you should need it often!
 
rchern
rchern
hehehe
but when I do need it, it will be fantabulous! (:
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
if nothing else, it stops me making typos
chat.gaimng.stackexchange.com, etc
 
rchern
rchern
oops
 
badp
badp
that's why you can use auto complete
 
rchern
rchern
that was my feature request (:
 
badp
badp
10:20 PM
so instead of typing chat.gaming.stackexchange.com you can type chat.gam
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
or you can if you hook it up
now instead, you just click on the right logo / name
 
badp
badp
oh, you thought you were talking about the browser :(
Now my comeback that instead of typing chat.stackexchange.com you can type chat.sta and end up on chat.stackoverflow.com instead is unusable.
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
ooh - that reminds me of the other change I wanted to make tonight; thanks!
hmm... actually, looks like I don't need it
 
badp
badp
Shutting down chat.SO? Good idea!
 
rchern
rchern
heh
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
10:23 PM
I wanted to make sure that "chat.doesntexist.stackexchange.com" still got me here, but it already does
 
rchern
rchern
@MarcGravell does that mean we need to give you more work?
 
badp
badp
There's still that Farmville regression.
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
yeah, right.
 
badp
badp
It started when chat went up, it just can't be a coincidence.
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
see, this is why you should stick to... brick-mining-thingy-island-dont-go-out-at-night
(it probably has a catchier name, but I don't get enough time for such niceties)
 
badp
badp
10:24 PM
Minecraft? I haven't touched it since it trashed my "awesome" save :(
er, the sanity feature kicked in and worked bydesign.
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
yeah, a real buzz-kill when it does that.
I've lost saves that were, like, 96% "everything of everything collected, won, explored, etc"
 
badp
badp
Actually I'd only found one diamond block yet.
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
and... sigh; no "closure"; damned if I'm doing that again
 
badp
badp
but...
 
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