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5:49 PM
@Michael thats one thing I like about GRL. 2 weeks from submission to rejection. oh wait, thats one thing I dislike about GRL :/ No major revision, just reject w/ encouraged re-submission.
my paper in AMOJ was originally written for GRL, but a hard-nosed reviewer made it his mission to keep it out and they sent the re-submissions to same reviewers. A fun first experience submitting to a journal.
 
6:06 PM
@casey I don't think that REE patterns in epidote minerals is in the scope of GRL ;)
but I don't know what happened, last time they rejected an article of me in one month. Maybe the fact that they didn't reject it just yet is a good thing.
@casey My first one (also about undergrad research) was also rejected from the first journal, eventually got accepted to the second. It only took about 2 years :P
 
6:23 PM
@Michael wasn't suggesting it was, just contrasting the timeframes involved. GRL has a pretty wide scope though, if its current, breaking research in anything that touches geophysics and you can write it up in 4 pages (final formatted form) they'll look at it I think :)
> Geophysical Research Letters publishes high-impact, innovative, and timely research on major scientific advances in all the major geoscience disciplines. Papers are communications-length articles and should have broad and immediate implications in their discipline or across the geosciences. GRL maintains the fastest turn-around of all high-impact publications in the geosciences and works closely with authors to ensure broad visibility of top papers.
 
I want to run away whenever I hear the word "geophysics"
 
:)
that is what they wanted to call this site in the initial proposal
I'm happy it changed
 
I wouldn't sign up if it was :P
I don't remember how I found it actually
I think I was asking a question on SO and somehow ended up on the list of all sites
saw ES in there
@casey btw what's your aviation background?
 
@Michael a little over 3000 hrs logged. 300 or so as an instructor, mostly in light twins (piper seminoles) with most of the rest in the EMB-145 in part 121 scheduled airline service. Spent 4 years flying that jet with 1 year and ~500 hours as captain.
specifically, I flew for that airline in one of the 274 copies of that jet we had
 
6:38 PM
ok, that explains your 10k rep on aviation :D
 
all my experience is civil. no military background
 
I have some knowledge of this from my days back at the air force
I didn't fly anything though
 
aviation is a fun site. I found it right when it hit public beta (didn't really know about area 51 then)
and through A51 I found this site when it was in its commitment phase.
 
There seems to be a site about everything
even some overlaps
 
lots of overlaps really, but usually they make sense
 
6:41 PM
your profile pic is your air pin?
 
Most of our questions could probably find homes on various other sites, but this is the one place where they can all exist. It helps questioners and answerers to put them all in one place.
 
or however you call that in english
 
@Michael my captains uniform wings.
the first officer wings are the same but no star
 
I remember when the high ranking officers came hanging round our unit
so much metal on their clothes
 
thankfully those wings were the sole bit of metal I had to wear :)
 
6:44 PM
I had a tiny one that belongs to our entire department
my specific unit created one about a year after I was released, so I never got to wear it
and then I became a geologist
 
The recession in 2008 hit airlines hard, we downsized, I lost my seat (back to being a first officer). Company sympathizers (yay Houston, TX crews!) overwhelmingly voted in pay concessions "to help" the company and all told I took a mere 45% paycut. That and aviation being distinctly not family friendly led me to taking an interest in weather (teaching instrument flying, and directly observing the atmosphere all day) and becoming a meteorologist
 
So you don't fly anymore?
 
7:01 PM
I'm not current, but when I have the time and money I'll get back into recreational flying
 
7:34 PM
just got published in Radiation Protection Dosimetry
 
Neo
7:49 PM
@casey the basic rule of thumb with GRL is that if its too technical for nature submit it there.
thats where im going when the reviewers on my nature sub get their act together and reject me
 
:)
 
Neo
pulishers are dicks
publishers*
 
I see that nature has a similar page constraint, so at least it wont be a re-write to fit it into GRL
 
Hi all!
 
G'day
I am just celebrating my 8th publication
 
7:54 PM
that was one problem with our jerk reviewer. He wanted a whole suite of unnecessary analysis that we wouldnt have even had the space to include!
 
I have had my share of jerk reviewers.... one even tracked down where my and my coauthors were and demanded that my coauthor (my then supervisor) be fired and me to fail my Masters ...all over 1 little paragraph that he did not like
 
Neo
@casey thats why its common for nature rejects to be published in GRL. Personally, I hate reading both nature and GRL papers... waaaay to much in too little space. But you know, academia, the things we do to get in.
 
@casey ah yes, have had that too
 
@SabreTooth grats.
 
8:15 PM
thank you muchly
I hav submitted 2 more... so fingers crossed
hi @JonEricson
 
@SabreTooth Ahoy there, @SabreTooth.
 
how you be?
 
Neo
stupid dark magmas
2
 
Hey @JonEricson I think this site is progressing nicely - still a bit to go, but growing
@Neo for some reason, I lol'ed at that
 
@SabreTooth Yep. Good to see.
 
8:20 PM
@SabreTooth Yeah I'm sure he didn't notice. :P
 
@JonEricson and I just went past 3K! Loving the mental challenge here
 
Neo
@SabreTooth I have to present the dark magma paper tomorrow for my geophysics group
Why is there an earth science paper published in nature communications ????
 
@Neo now, that is not a lol-ing matter
 
Neo
it is, thats how i got into graduate school. I loled all the time
 
@SabreTooth Congrats!
 
8:23 PM
@Neo how long to go?
@JonEricson nd in real life, this is my area of speciality - atmospheric scientist PhD graduate
 
Neo
@SabreTooth goal is to finish in 2.66 more years, but, have up to 4.66 more years of funding
 
@Neo among other things, I am impressed with the 2 decimal place accuracy
 
We should start a challenge, and see who can go the longest without bragging.
I wonder who would win.
 
Neo
@SabreTooth we are on the quarter system, and 3 quarters = 2 semesters (don't ask why its called quarter system, seeing as there are actually 5 quarters in a calendar year)
 
nothing wrong with bragging bout our achievements
 
8:26 PM
@SabreTooth No, but sometimes it's good to talk about other things too.
 
@Neo ah university administration, one of the only places that have a practical uses for 5 quarters
@J.Musser true... apologies then
 
@SabreTooth what was your thesis topic? atmospheric science is quite broad :)
 
@SabreTooth Not a huge deal, just good to stay on track.
I will often post an achievement, but yeah, I talk about other things too...
Speaking of which, I've been on GL for over 200 consecutive days now.
 
Neo
is there a way to track progress on certain badges btw ?
 
I also lost my 88 consecutive on MSE, so no badge for a while. I forgot to load the page on Thanksgiving day.
@Neo Yes, which?
 
Neo
8:34 PM
The electorate badge is one im currently targeting
 
look under votes in your profile. you voted on 527 questions, so you have 73 question votes to go.
@Neo Any others?
 
Neo
no not really... I didnt know that it broke it own like that
 
I'm working on 'great question' on GL.
just kidding
 
Neo
I've never seen a 'Great Question'
probably because i dont browse the more popular SEs
 
@Neo Look on SO.
 
Neo
8:38 PM
God this paper is bs
 
@Neo Haha!
@Neo Marshal is a good one.
 
Neo
9141
Q: Why is processing a sorted array faster than an unsorted array?

GManNickGHere is a piece of C++ code that seems very peculiar. For some strange reason, sorting the data miraculously makes the code almost six times faster: #include <algorithm> #include <ctime> #include <iostream> int main() { // Generate data const unsigned arraySize = 32768; int data[arr...

thats the highest upvoted question on SO
That's a crazy good question
 
there is another one i'm trying to find my link to as well
for different badge progress
 
Neo
interesting
 
95
A: Badge progress reports

Brad MaceNote: queries use data which may be several days old. Find out when the last update was here. Question Badges Asking Days: progress towards Curious, Inquisitive, Socratic Question Score: Nice Question, Good Question, Great Question: see Profile > questions > votes Question Views: progress towa...

 
Neo
Oh Se
you have everything
 
apologies for my exuberance before - I received word the paper was published only a couple of hours ago (it was rejected 3 times from other journals). @casey, the research was/is about using smartphones to measure UV AOD.
 
@Neo I love stats.
 
I think I self impose a chat ban, never intended to "brag"
 
Neo
@J.Musser I also love stats, but you know, whats not to love
besides a poke in the eye with a sharp stick
 
8:46 PM
@Neo or coming home to find your dog has diarrhea
sorry
 
Neo
poor doggy
i have a new highlighter, and its making this paper much more readable
because it looks great when highlighted
 
@Neo didn't actually happen, I was just sayin'...
@Neo Hahaha!
 
Neo
I have never felt so strongly about a paper should have never been published
But i'm not a geochemist
 
@Neo Neither am I.
 
@Neo I feel that way about the tornado wall paper
 
Neo
8:50 PM
Tornado wall paper ?
?????
sounds like something from scifi channel
 
particularly because he published it in a journal he edits and it is clear there is bias in how his response letters are published vs others peoples letters
 
Neo
is that a reputable journal ??
 
@Neo ^^ the published comments under the abstract are fun
Not to mention there is a paper out now completely refuting his work
and his responses are basically "I'm a physicist, and meteorologists don't know physics"
which says a lot about him as a physicist
 
Neo
oh man
 
in any case, he claims an east-west oriented wall a few hundred meters tall put up somewhere near TX/OK will stop tornados in tornado alley
the paper (looking for it now) says his wall wont do anything, but they go further and put a 2500 m tall wall into a sim and sure, it stops tornadoes, but turns OK into a desert :)
 
Neo
9:02 PM
@casey thats trolling
SERIOUS TROLLING
 
> Dahl and Markowski are wrong and misleading to claim that the major tornadoes in USA Tornado Alley are not related to the collisions between northbound warm air flow and southbound cold air flow. In addition, they use incompressible and inviscid fluid model for atmosphere in their simulations about the interaction between air wind and the wall. Such approach ignores the basic physics and thus cannot reach any meaningful results.
R. Tao (2014)
trololol
full disclosure: Markowski is my PhD advisor
 
Neo
hahaha
 
that is the paper that goes with that poster
 
Neo
@casey my conclusion is that atmospheric scientists are bored
 
@Neo if it were some crazy guy, sure
but R. Tao is the physics department chair at Temple University and he published in a peer-reviewed journal
If it were Mr. McGinn making these claims, no one would have spent any time on him
and I won't even link to his crap, as it is pure crazy and doesn't deserve hits
 
Neo
9:17 PM
lol
going to try and get geophysics group to read that paper
even though almost everything we read is supposed to deal with plate tectonics
 
The Tao and Coffer papers make nice companion articles
 
Neo
its too bad
he didnt suggest "Anthropogenic plate convergence as a method to stop tornado formation in central united states"
how about that for a a wall
 
well, you could argue that is what he really wants, as he is essentially building an artificial hill under the premise that hills stop tornadoes (flawed)
and he states as much, iirc
e.g. there are hills where tornado alley isnt, therefore hills stop tornadoes, so we need a hill to stop tornado alley, so lets build a wall, because it'll work as long as it is as tall as the hills.
 
Neo
9:33 PM
lol
Yep
 
and the Coffer paper is basically, "we stuck your wall in WRF and it made more tornadoes. So, under the premise you are right but didn't just think big enough, we build a wall with more concrete than the hoover dam. It made N TX a desert and yes, there are now no tornadoes there, but you just moved them to the east."
> The tornado-preventing walls, as proposed
(300 m), have no meaningful impact on
the simulation.
> Increasing the walls’ height to 2500 m
causes substantial displacement, not
elimination, of the convective storms and
tornado threat. The local climate impacts
could be substantial as well, even in these
63 h simulations. These impacts could
include desertification of much of Texas,
increased precipitation on the windward
side of the walls, and circulations induced
by the edges of the walls that could cause
an increase in non-supercellular
tornadoes.
 
Neo
i looked up the empire state building: its 381 m tall
soo... insane
 
2500 m tall is stupidly insane. it is basically what mythbusters would do
hmm, this firecracker didnt do anything, lets try 50 lbs of C4
 
Neo
lol
now i have to explain everything to my officemates, because i've been chuckling
.... grad students hard at work fwiw
hahah
"We added up all the wt %, and it didn't add up to 100, so we normalized it so its now 100%"
this is a nature paper
some people just know whose knob to turn
 
 
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11:33 PM
@casey: As a followup to the semi-odd upvoting patterns, I now have "access to moderator tools" which "collectively allow me to help the elected community moderators in monitoring the site and helping to clean up messes." Unless I'm missing something, most of the "tools" appear to just be reports, but figured I ask if someone familiar with these features and the moderators needs is aware of any gaps that need to be filled or how best to use these tools based on experience.
 
11:54 PM
@blunders those are the "10k tools", normally available at 10k rep but only 2k for beta. They aren't as useful as they used to be -- NAA and VLQ flags used to go there, not not anymore. Its mostly reports and probably not interesting things on a site this small.
Feel free to poke around and ask any questions you have.
 

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