Good morning. Random bit: David you cheeky one. Ran texdoc lscape earlier and though Adobe Reader was broken (for a split second). :)

That was all.

@ChristianHupfer One briefing on wednesday, one final briefing on thursday just before the start.

@ChristianHupfer Left the location at 4.30 am, was at home at 5 am, went to bed around 5.20 am and was getting up again at 8.50 am. Mhhhhhhh, coffee.

@ChristianHupfer Thanks for taking care of the enumitem question over at LC

@Johannes_B: Good morning... and good morning to the others too ;-)

@Johannes_B: You're quite well this morning, after the Kneipenrallye? ;-)

@ChristianHupfer Jep, i am.

@Johannes_B: I posted a 'trial' solution, but I am not sure that this is what the OP wanted

@ChristianHupfer He replied that it looks ok and is going to test it.

@Johannes_B: Yes, I read that answer. Well, I learned something about enumitem ;-)

@ChristianHupfer I was more calm this year than last year.

@Johannes_B: You're getting old ;-)

@ChristianHupfer No, 2 teams Sanitäter, more security, better communication.

@Johannes_B: Sorry, I have to leave for an hour etc... we have to continue later on, ok?

@ChristianHupfer Sure, have fun. ;-)

@Johannes_B: Bye!

Good maen again

@percusse but now I'll pick up some tikz points with an answer that contains tikz code, shocking!

En route to SP, you guys behave! :)

@PauloCereda: ;-) I don't mind anyway :D

Hello

is there a command or is it even possible to have such a thing to remove a link/reference without redefinition (like \removelink{\url{http://www.google.com}})?

@Serthy: \nolinkurl{....} ?

uhm I ment to remove the internal links in a pdf document produced by hyperref, the url thing was abit misleading, sorry

@Serthy: Yes, it was misleading ;-)

@DavidCarlisle Well you have the badge. So I see no problem of credibility :)

@egreg "seems to work" don't sound so surprised:-)

Would appreciate feedback on this, especially from @cfr meta.tex.stackexchange.com/questions/4649/…

Maybe the meta questions itself is both too broad and too localized. Let me know if there's a better way to discuss this.

@AndrewCashner Users can add bounties to any open question: doesn't mean you have to anser them :-)

@AndrewCashner Discussion is what meta is for

@JosephWright I forgot to mention, the user has now given us a "grace period" to fix our answers to meet new demands. THis seems almost like bullying. I do wish I hadn't answered to begin with.

@AndrewCashner AFAIK the grace period is there for all bounties. It's to give the bounty-setter time to evaluate the answers before awarding the bounty.

@PaulGessler Indeed, this is just how the system works

@AndrewCashner That's a period set by the 'back end' to allow the OP to assign the bounty, otherwise it gets auto-assigned

@PaulGessler @JosephWright OP edits the post today to say "now we are closer to an answer", and meanwhile adds a new question which we are supposed to be answering.

@AndrewCashner Yes, but that's nothing to do with the bounty 'grace period'

@AndrewCashner nothing is forcing you to answer the new question or edit your answer. :-)

@JosephWright Okay, I understand. Not as nefarious as I thought.:)

@AndrewCashner I think what you've got is someone desperate for a solution to their issue. They've asked what they think is a clear question, it's not so they've added a bounty and only then begun to refine it to actually show the issue.

@AndrewCashner On other sites I think the attitude would be to have closed the question before the bounty was added and asked for clarification.

@JosephWright I think that's a fair reading of the situation. I don't know why I got drawn in; it was a small bounty anyway.

Bad day. Bad day. Bad day.

@PauloCereda ?

@JosephWright Bad day. I haz it.

:)

Insane traffic jam. Terrible weather. Greatly hungry. Very tired. For starters.

@PauloCereda Your terrific "helping others" answer certainly gave me a lift, if that helps.

@AndrewCashner Thank you. :) At least it shows how wacky I am. :)

@DavidCarlisle I used typical British understatement.

:)

@PauloCereda And shows how far TeX can be extended into all kinds of applications beyond just articles, CVs, and theses! Plus you combine the visible benefits of TeX (beautiful typography) with all the programming benefits which I actually think are what makes TeX really great. You can't script Word, let alone graphics programs, the way you have.

@PauloCereda Still bottled in traffic?

@AndrewCashner <3

@egreg Not anymore. :)

Just a quick remark: the songbook project inspired me to write arara. :)

@JosephWright @PaulGessler I'm still new here and I suspect the answer I gave to that question does not add real value to the site. I'll leave it up if those more experienced think it is worth it. It doesn't seem like it helped the OP much.

@PauloCereda The French use the word “bouchon” (cork).

Likewise with the meta question. I don't want to be criticizing another user in that public forum if it doesn't lead to anything productive for the site.

@egreg ah I was expecting Italian hyperbole:-)

@PaulGessler @JosephWright I will delete both my answer and the meta question. Questions of quality aside, it's giving me too much anxiety about the site. In the future I will think more carefully before posting! Thanks for your input.

Somehow that gave me the "disciplined" badge for deleting my own upvoted post. At least I get some trophy:>

My family needs me. A good day to all of you!

I've just earned my first lost a tick to @egreg badge, haha!

@PaulGessler AccuROAM? ;-)

@egreg yep. Because I assumed that the use of different typefaces was desired and deliberate. ;-)

@PaulGessler I have a very accurate crystal ball, you know.

@percusse this is more my kind of tikz answer tex.stackexchange.com/a/205522/1090

@DavidCarlisle :-)

@PeterGrill they all count towards my tikz badge

@DavidCarlisle Yep, they sure do. I still think your drawing of an airplane is the best.

@DavidCarlisle @JosephWright Is 'bespoke' really a word people use outside of tailoring? tex.stackexchange.com/q/205479/2693

@AlanMunn sometimes:-) mainly about "design" eg kitchens rather than latex class files

@DavidCarlisle It's a quintessential British word, for sure.

@DavidCarlisle Never neglect warnings in the .log file, such as Package caption Warning: Unsupported document class (or package) detected,

@PaulGessler Somebody has lots of them. :P Maybe another one, soon.

@AndrewCashner Unfortunately, people do sometimes do this. It is especially unfortunate since our answers no longer address the current question which makes the entire thread much less useful for future users. I'm not sure that this is particularly specific to people offering bounties, though. I've seen the same pattern for question-and-answers where no bounties were involved. I'm sorry that you felt you needed to delete your answer, and I'm sorry if I contributed to your frustration.

@egreg ieee class is warning enough;-)

@DavidCarlisle It's horribly written, by the way.

@egreg one of yours?

@egreg one day I'll learn some Italian

By the way, Italy beat Azerbaijan with a triumphant 2:1.

@egreg triumphant ????

while it can "in theory" be fun (well most of the time it is) the pointer mess is driving me crazy in luatex. Either I don't quite understand how commands like node.free work or it has bugs or at least non-intuitive features ... tex.stackexchange.com/q/205546/10109

@cfr Thanks - I appreciate your perspective. There's no hard feelings. I think your answer has plenty in it that will be helpful to future users. I will look for higher-quality questions from now on! :)

@FrankMittelbach Well, almost. ;-) Your countryman Vogts wasn't happy.

@FrankMittelbach any chance of getting Taco or Hans on the luatex list, not many here know the engine internals I suspect

@DavidCarlisle at the moment I more or less document findings and questions ... yeah eventually that may be the only answer, but some luatex binary source code could help already. my suspicion is that those links are relinked to a special node. There are some funny things in this respect. For example s=node.new("glue") generates a glue node, but if you look at s.spec it is not nil but already a glue spec node. So I thought good, then all i need to do is give s.spec.width a value ... bad idea

it seems to point to the "always zero" glue spec only that this way you can simply overwrite it ... with interesting consequences

this seems to be the source? foundry.supelec.fr/scm/?group_id=10

I wish I could help, but I am stuck with my own macro expander issues. :)

@PauloCereda :-)

@DavidCarlisle good enough for here but for an answer it needs a little more meat :-)

@PauloCereda Did you add \romannumeral with its fancy properties?

@egreg: I will add David as coauthor, so he could implement it for me. :)

@PauloCereda ^^^ @egreg's the nearest we have to a Roman, get him to do it

@DavidCarlisle What did the Romans do for us?