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12:15 AM
"Does Micro USB carry enough juice to power Mini USB devices, with an adapter?" - What do you guys think, SU or EE?
 
@RoryAlsop That was very cool! Normally I hate politics, but that was a very pleasant forum.
 
 
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5:31 AM
@Iszi Micro USB and Mini USB are the connector shapes.
 
don't forget A B and C
also, micro has 5 pins for OTG
@Iszi: it isn't a great question IMO, its more chat material.
 
ah, THAT's what the 5th pin is for.
 
yeah
one of those pins and ground are shorted in OTG devices
 
and floating on standard devices?
no pull-up?
 
ya
if i recall correctly, that's the case
I might be wrong, I am in the middle of doing many unspeakable things to ESXi
 
5:35 AM
backwards compatibility, I guess. Still, the wire floats on the other end, right? there's no pin on the A connector
so it's effectively unused?
 
Even if you connect 2 OTG devices together... they're both grounding the pin, which makes it pointless
...so perhaps forward compatibility, not backward
 
@JourneymanGeek No offence to the SU mod but I think of SU as a dumping ground for not so great questions. :P
 
@TerryChia: I'd be happy to throw the crappy ones right back ;p
 
Hmm, perhaps "not so great" was the wrong term. A better one would be "don't fit anywhere else".
 
5:41 AM
@Adnan This message made my morning :* I still remember the first gift you gave me, and I still love it
 
5:52 AM
@Kisunminttu Really? You do?
I don't
Hmm.. was it this?
 
@Adnan Yes :)
 
@Kisunminttu Well, it was a suitable one since you introduced me to Portal
 
@Adnan I often have it next to me when I sleep when you're not next to me :)
@Adnan Which reminds me. I need to game moar.
 
@Adnan @Kisunminttu Get a room guys. Another room. :)
 
5:57 AM
@TerryChia You should get some peanut butter for that jelly
I hate motivational horoscope pictures
 
@Kisunminttu Why do you look at anything that has the word "horoscope" in it?
Unless it is "Scientists publish a peer-reviewed study indicating that horoscope do indeed affect our lives"
 
"A leo can adapt to any situation" "Virgos marry for life" "Don't piss off a libra"
@Adnan Actually, it's my own fault. It's a feed I've subscribed to that took a turn for the worst. Unsubscribing...
 
6:38 AM
@Kisu Ahhh.. so stupid! I just tried to copy a link from my computer and paste it on my mobile.
These things
 
@Adnan Thanks, I've seen those
 
@Kisunminttu Kato sun WhatsAppi
 
@Adnan Oota hetki
@Adnan :* :* :*
 
6:54 AM
Could somebody please disable the GTOTW event thing already?
CC: @RоryM @RoryA @Scott @AviD
 
7:51 AM
@Xander I'm not sure. Olaf (our stand in for Emmett who was away looking after his new baby) was the first to speak, and Erik spoke most. Apparently I'm the one who sounds like a frog on weed...which is disappointing :-(
@Xander It was really good fun - very chilled out. They had asked if we could be extra silly, and we said, "Sure - if you replace the water on our table with champagne or Jack Daniels" :-)
@Kisunminttu you'd like the companion cube ice cube trays I got...
@Adnan I am not sure how to. Will try and figure it out later...
 
@Adnan Had to think about it for a minute. Then realized you were stealing from me. Nice one.
@RoryAlsop I think @ScottPack might have to do it. He's the room owner, and the one who set them up.
 
@Iszi Stealing from you?
Was it originally coined by you?
I'm not aware of that, but if that's the case then all credit to you.
 
@RoryAlsop Totally! I'm all for nifty ice cube trays :)
 
8:08 AM
Any Skype on GNU/Linux users here?
Any version before 4.3 has be summarily deprecated with the nice Skype can't connect helpful notification. New version dropped Alsa, dropped notify-send for sni-qt.
Great! Fucking great!
No more Skype calls for me because PulseAudio doesn't like my laptop's sound hardware
 
@Adnan Can you use my netbook while you're figuring out a solution for that?
 
@Kisunminttu Guess what's the only operating system that can utilize your network card to connect to WiFi...
 
8:23 AM
@Adnan Eheheheh :D
 
@Kisunminttu ?
"Eheheheh :D" is not a guess
 
@Adnan Just that it's an unfortunate coincidence, but with some comedic value
Oh I though it was rhetorical since it didn't have a question mark at the end
 
@Kisunminttu Yeeeah?
 
@Adnan @Kisunminttu should release a Linux distro called "Eheheheh :D" just to prove you wrong. ;)
 
@TerryChia Let's find her some LFS book in Finnish
@Kisu I'm still waiting...
 
8:29 AM
@Adnan Sorry, I was busy
 
mmhmm
 
@Adnan Crunchbang?
 
@Adnan Eh I was thinking more grabbing Debian and renaming it. :P
 
@Kisunminttu Wait wait.. Let's stop for a bit. By "Eheheheh" you indicated that you found what I said funny
I don't think it is funny
I think you just wrote that because you don't know what I'm talking about
@Kisu Which is a shitty thing to do. If you don't know, then ask.
and it is Lubuntu. I installed it while sitting next to you, and we laughed at the name.
 
@Adnan Yeah, I thought it was meant to be funny
@Adnan Yes I remember that
 
8:37 AM
@Adnan the things you crazy kids find funny :op
 
@RоryMcCune It sounds sort of French
 
@RоryMcCune I think kids is the key takeaway here. ;)
 
@RоryMcCune It's because of Lube.. you know
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When it comes to stuff like that, @Kisu and I behave like we're 13
 
@Adnan I don't think 13yo kids should be playing with lube.
4
 
@Adnan I C
@Kisunminttu yours was the far more innocent attempt at explaining it, before @Adnan ruined it all :op
 
8:41 AM
@RоryMcCune @Adnan the ruiner.
 
@TerryChia That's my middle name
It was Mikael, but I ruined it
 
9:02 AM
Apparently, not in Egypt, Syria, or Iraq.
 
@Adnan US?
@AviD roflmao.
 
@Kisunminttu Everything you've ever told me is a lie.
 
@AviD dude...
@AviD I have a medical condition
 
heh.
@Kisunminttu my guess is #Ferguson, US?
 
9:11 AM
@Kisunminttu @AviD Yup
I just hope these riots and chaos will spread across the states to other poor black area
Then there will a general case of disorder
and then.. Iraq will intervene for humanitarian causes, and Israel with the help of Mexico will broker peace between the blacks and the whites
 
hahaha
 
Anyway, I sincerely hope this spreads and lasts as long as possible. It would be interesting to see how the events would progress.
 
What's up with all the body slams?
 
 
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10:33 AM
g'day to all
as Cthulhu is my witness I sure need it, it's as moist here as in @Simon's wildest dreams
right, either I killed the chat or you're all busy ... time to find some book to read before I kill myself for its entertainment value
 
11:00 AM
@TildalWave did @kalina hack your account??
 
@Kisunminttu especially with a wee drop of food colouring. I now have multicoloured companion cubes for my drinks
 
@RoryAlsop Orange and blue?
 
and pink and green
Pic from the radio 4 thing :-)
 
11:23 AM
My eyes!!! :))
 
What? Too much pink green orange and blue?
 
Has "pink and green" any significance or just random?
@rory that background! Nothing against the foreground, but the background... Ouch!
 
12:07 PM
@TildalWave The background was nothing to do with us
@TildalWave And pink and green was actually unconnected with this image. I just had 4 colours of food dye in my ice cube tray
 
@RoryAlsop Ha ha ha, I've seen the video of your Securi-Tay talk, and that is not how I'd describe your voice. The Ewan McGregor impersonator was the second to speak, I believe, so Erik, I'm guessing.
 
@Xander yes - he's quite charismatic. Which is good for a front man in a band
 
12:25 PM
 
@TerryChia you're just trying to match my colour scheme...
 
1:00 PM
@TerryChia CVEs?
 
@Xander Yep.
 
1:14 PM
Heh. I've gotten some interesting responses from folks who have plagiarism in there answers, but I don't think I've ever been told to essentially "mind my own business" before.
Please mind your own answers. Thank you. We are all manufactures - making good, making bad or making excuses. You can't answer anything without learning anything. — Rohan Chaubey 3 mins ago
 
Why the hell does Outlook have a safe mode?
 
@Simon Because Outlook plugins are pure evil.
 
Nobody needs Outlook plugins.
Hell, nobody needs Outlook.
 
@Simon ... PGP?
@Simon possibly although try talking to an e-mail admin about some of the weird corporate meeting stuff that outlook supports and other clients struggle with...
 
Pretty Good Paranoia, right.
@RоryMcCune Yeah I guess.
 
1:21 PM
@Simon just 'cause you're paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you!
 
@RоryMcCune Haha.
There goes my peaceful morning, everybody's loud right now for some reason.
 
@Simon Probably just to annoy you. They're doing it on purpose. You know they are. They're trying to get into your head.
 
Yes, just like Amanda Bynes who got owned by Monarch Mind Control.
 
@RoryMcCune So when do you start the new gig?
 
Every time I look into your eyes I see donuts.
 
1:35 PM
@Xander 26th.. Got one more job to do next week then straight into the new stuff
 
@Simon Whose eyes? Mine? Thanks!
 
@Xander <3
 
@RоryMcCune Nice! Busy couple of weeks then. :-)
 
@RоryMcCune When you getting your shiny new corporate laptop? :)
 
@Xander yeah had a little bit of quieter time at the mo' which has been nice, but will be good to get back into stuff...
@TerryChia well likely I'll be down to head office on week one to get kitted out, laptop + phone etc
 
1:37 PM
@RоryMcCune Yeah, I know how that can be. Quiet is refreshing at first, then it turns into restlessness.
 
@RоryMcCune Cool. Any idea on the kit you will be getting?
 
@Xander yeah after a while I'm happier just getting stuck back into it, although been trying to work a bit on some of my scripts at the mo' useful prep.
@TerryChia well assuming it's common across the team @deed02392 said it's a high-end dell lattitude , Core i7 + 16GB +SSD so can't complain there
@TerryChia phone wise no idea but my guess is iPhone
 
in b4 BB
 
@RоryMcCune Ahh. Both good choices. :)
 
I'd lulz
 
1:40 PM
@TerryChia yeah laptop will be a bit heavier than my current one, but I'll live :)
 
You're gonna be all muscled up.
I lift... my laptop.
 
@RоryMcCune Oooh yeah. Get them to fund you a shiny home server instead of laptop. :P
 
Have you guys ever run into some people who thought the term is a "labtop"?
 
@Simon No.
 
1:41 PM
@TerryChia heh, actually planning to cut down on home servers, we have 3 already and one of them's a bit big
 
I correct them. Sadly, not always with much violence.
 
@RоryMcCune Pfft. Gut the insides and go for the rack form factor. ;)
 
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, violence is indeed the right response in this case.
 
@TerryChia ah rack-mount ain't great for home offices tend to be a bit noisy!
 
@RоryMcCune Can't you shove it in the basement or something?
 
1:43 PM
@TerryChia heh we have a bungalow so no basement... and the shed's probably a bit damp in the winter....
 
@RоryMcCune Ahh I see.
 
I hate ASP.NET 4 lyf3
@AviD How do you deal with this shit daily?
If you ever have suicidal tendencies, I might know why.
 
@Simon Still better than PHP.
 
@TerryChia Not if you're using a framework based on django.
 
@Simon No.
 
1:53 PM
My inner donut says yes.
 
@TerryChia Is that a euphemism?
 
@DavidFreitag I hope not.
 
Somehow BioWare got my email and I was "invited"
 
2:10 PM
Other than @Adnan do we have a consensus on removing the QotW events?
 
@ScottPack +0 on it. Don't really care either way.
 
What about the desire to annoy outsiders?
 
@ScottPack It's not as if it was hard to ignore.
 
back home
@ScottPack 22 yay, 0 nay
 
I'm the 1%.
 
2:50 PM
@ScottPack I don't particularly care one way or the other. So I'm fine with removing them if that's the general consensus.
 
ONE WAY
OR ANOTHER
 
@Simon You weren't born when that song was popular.
 
That's probably right.
 
@Simon It was released in 1979.
 
Jeeze.
I feel like I'd be living in a coffin if I was alive in 1979.
 
2:58 PM
Hey, that song even predates me!
 
Google's hold music is very annoying.
 
@DavidFreitag Huh?
 
@Simon I'm warranty replacing my nexus 5
 
What happened to it?
 
It's never had more than two bars of signal, even standing five feet from the AT&T signal booster yesterday.
 
3:02 PM
Ah that sucks.
 
Yeah kinda. So Tyrone is sending me a new one.
 
So, you don't have a phone right now?
 
I have it. I'm assuming they are going to send me a new one with a box to send the old one back
 
Probably, yeah.
I don't think they'll be like "Here's a spare phone!"
 
I'll have to revert to stock and lock the bootloader before I send it back though
I wouldn't mind a loaner.
 
3:07 PM
They still care about people rooting their device?
 
Nope
So the dude sent me an email and was like "It will take five minutes to get there" and I was like uhwat?
They are going to replace it with a refurbished model :[
 
+1 Can I get some moonglow? I need all the help I can get. My moonglow mojo is severely lacking. sad pandak1DBLITZ yesterday
should I tell them that "moonglow" is a euphemism....?
 
@AviD Perhaps he already knows.
 
3:39 PM
@RоryMcCune Apparently we're supposed to start geting iPhones but everyone has been getting BBs so far
some have windows phones
 
Called it.
 
@deed02392 oo hipster
 
Says the guy with the shiney mac
 
and the windows phone
 
@DavidFreitag Hipsters called other people hipsters before it was cool.
 
3:46 PM
I was doing things before they were cool, before anyone even made up the term "hipster".
 
Dude the team Win recovery is so badass.
It even has lock screens!
Always helps to clear the tamper flag when warranty comes into play ;]
 
4:06 PM
@AviD Are you sure about that?
 
4:28 PM
@FEichinger yeah, that spike in early 1700's was me.
 
@AviD You're not @RoryAlsop.
 
@Simon right, I was just a wee lad. I went to visit @RoryAlsop when he was granted his 3rd knighthood for seniority.
 
@AviD Do you know if he's the first human who got tattoo'd?
 
@Simon s/who got tatood/evar/
 
That's not gonna replace much.
 
4:34 PM
Nothing, in fact.
 
@FEichinger hmm?
 
Well done.
 
seriously? punctuation? ya damn fools
I recently watched hollywood's latest disaster blockbuster, Noah.
 
@AviD hmm?
 
There was a scene where the biblical Noah travels to visit his ancient grandfather, Methuselah. Damned if it wasnt @RoryAlsop in a wig.
oh lordy lordy lord.
this from a vendor response to a reported SQL injection in their product:
> One might be inclined to say this is not a security issue as it's likely to break during normal operation as soon as some string contains a single quote.
I hate trawling opensource archives.
 
4:43 PM
@deed02392 ah well windows phone's ok, I like windows phone :)
 
@AviD "It could happen all the time, so it's not really a security issue, just a plain old bug with no problems attached."
 
I don't think I handle bilingualism properly. My web pages are half in English and half in French.
 
@FEichinger too lazy, but I agree with @AJ.
 
@AviD Want me to kick it over?
 
meh, too busy to care
or type complete non-words, apparently
 
4:55 PM
<3 old school Trance
 
Here's a fun story:
Selling a couch on craigslist
Buyer wants to pay by PayPal. OK.
Buyer also wants to add an additional 450 to pay the movers because it's a "business account". OK.
Buyer says she sends payment. Not received.
"Check your email" she says.
"I checked the site, it's not there."
"Check your spam folder"
There's an email in spam. Gmail says **this is a scam**. Yep.
"Paypal" in the email says we need to go to walmart to get a money order and send it to florida
 
@tylerl Why would you check your email, and not paypal?
 
to unlock our paypal account. Riiight.
"Buyer" keeps texting wife saying, "did you check your email yet? Did you get the message?"
Wife says, "Yep. I forwarded it to the police. They said to stay where you are, and don't destroy this phone."
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Wife is awesome.
No more texts from buyer.
 
Re-mary her.
 
5:02 PM
@tylerl wait, so why is the reason it gives why the seller would have to send money?
I'm not even sure how that scam is supposed to make sense
 
@AJHenderson Since when do internet scams ever make sense?
 
@AJHenderson I'm pretty sure the scam relies on the hope that the person will be extremely greedy and will do anything to make the sale because it's moar money!
 
@AJHenderson the english in the email is nearly unintelligible. I'll screenshot the emails for your entertainment though.
 
@DavidFreitag most of them have some semblance of sense to them
such as sending a check that will bounce after you've already sent your good check
or downloading software because "you haz 1 billian viruzez"
@tylerl oh, I think I see now, so they claim that you can't receive payments because you need to send Paypal money and they give an address they can access as the address for PayPal?
 
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Q: Information Security and Financial Risks

user53852Recently, we've been asked by Audit Dpt. to have financial risks controls in our ERP.(fraud like incidents) Our question is if this request is covered by the scope of Information Security Dept? If so, i think a set of tests should be developed with IT and Finance Dpt. So, What are the competenci...

This is broad as nobs, right?
 
5:09 PM
@Simon not really, it isn't asking for how to do it, but rather if it is in the job description
 
There are 4 question marks in his "question".
 
@Xander thanks - I have had a word with him...
 
So apparently android has a "Safe Mode"
 
@AJHenderson First email (the set up):
And then the kicker:
 
Sweet email address.
 
5:14 PM
@tylerl Wait - $1600 for a couch???
 
@RoryAlsop Thank you.
 
@RoryAlsop Shouldn't you protect this question? security.stackexchange.com/questions/4704/…
 
@DavidFreitag 2 sofa beds, and then the $480 "pick up fee"
 
@Simon ah, yeah, that does make it a bit broad
 
@tylerl Oh, I was going to say.
 
5:17 PM
@Simon good call
thanks
 
My pleasure.
 
@Simon Giggity.
 
@DavidFreitag is that you @ScottPack? :-)
 
@RoryAlsop Certainly not
Unless I suddenly sprouted facial hair and an intense love of beer.
 
Don't forget to rock a sweet hat.
 
5:22 PM
@tylerl That's brilliant.
 
@Simon I don't really do hats.
 
@tylerl wow, they didn't even fake the header...
 
the blackberry bold isn't so bad either tbh
battery lasts forever
 
@AJHenderson I doubt this person even knows what that is.
 
@AJHenderson Amazing isn't it - you'd think they would at least try... although there is good intel that it is deliberate, to weed out the vaguely intelligent at an early stage: anyone who continues can probably be bilked :-)
 
5:23 PM
from
Why Nigerian scam emails are so poorly written. http://t.co/yYFCmWN2uX
 
@AviD NB4Me. :-(
Was just writing a message about that study.
 
@RoryAlsop OHAI GUISE
 
@RoryAlsop interesting thought
 
@AJHenderson @RoryAlsop Yeah, the bit AviD linked to was from a Microsoft study, where they determined that was the case. They make them intentionally bad to weed out anyone who has any sense at all. They only want the most gullible and greedy to respond.
 
@RoryAlsop @Xander yeah it is an interesting study in the economics of it, not so intuitive at first.
 
5:27 PM
@Xander I'll be kalina: "mmmm weed".
3
 
@Simon lol
@ScottPack OHAI
 
5:43 PM
@RoryAlsop I want MOAR ink but it's gonna cost MOAR money
 
@Simon You should come to Edinburgh - I can get you a good discount :-)
 
@RoryAlsop It sounds like the trip wouldn't save me much :p
It'd be great to get tattoo'd in a different country though, memories!
 
@Simon But the perks: being in Scotland; potentially meeting more Rories than any normal human can cope with; meeting whiskies at source; etc
 
@RoryAlsop Yeah I know! Also, I'd be near every single country that has epic music festivals.
 
"being in Scotland; potentially meeting more Rories than any normal human can cope with; meeting whiskies at source;" you just repeated yourself 3 times.
 
5:50 PM
rainbowtech.net/products/docs/c51ce4107047eb1b2dc/… <-- adds a whole new meaning to "routing bugs"
 
@RоryMcCune or renewing the original one
 
@AviD pfffft
 
@RоryMcCune Jesus that's crazy.
 
@RоryMcCune Yikes.
 
@RоryMcCune he
 
5:53 PM
EW
 
seriously? that gets me a "pfffft", but this one didn't? ;-)
 
I must say that I love winter when I see those bugs.
 
@Simon Remind me later and I'll see if i can dig up the pictures of the time I melted a 4' tall ant hill with thermite...
 
"dig up" no thanks
 
@DavidFreitag Haha, nice.
 
5:57 PM
@AviD I meant find which drive they are on :b
 
@AviD Are you trying to steal my role of annoying the hell out of people?
 
nevar
 
@Simon there's always enough to share
 
Summary: a large particle accelerator (it would have been an 87.1 km ring, much larger than the LHC) ran into trouble because local ants were munching at the cables.
The SSC was never finished; it was cancelled due to budget pressures. It is not known whether the ants were the main culprits.
 
I bet you feel like a compete donut if your project was cancelled because of ants.
3
 
6:06 PM
@ThomasPornin I remember hearing about that.
There was a lot of "Is some stupid ring purely for science really the single most important thing in society today?"
 
6:22 PM
@DavidFreitag I recall it being something closer to "Yeah, science is nice, but not billions of dollars worth of nice."
 
@Xander They glossed over the issues with the SSC in one of the LHC documentaries. I think it was called Particle Fever. It was very good.
 
@DavidFreitag Interesting. I'll have to look for it.
 
@Xander It's on Netflix. It sheds light into all the issues they had during the first emission tests.
Including the massive blow out.
 
6:55 PM
@ThomasPornin ouch, that's an expensive bug right there!
 
7:13 PM
Huehuehue.
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