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@WesleyDavid duly noted :) I shall up my rep-whoring activities

@ChrisS those are the tough ones, when you can post a comment that you think will lead them to it, or, post an answer that makes assumptions.

@ShaneMadden But the "NO! You're hosed. lols" answers are the funnest!

@WesleyDavid Then get on it! ;)

@pfo When I see your username I think "Pimply Faced Thing-that-starts-with-O"

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7:02 PM

@WesleyDavid you could put a better answer than mine extolling the virtues of out-of-band management. I bet people would upvote it :)

@MichaelLowman People upvote accurate verbosity and cruelty. Bonus points for a combination of the two

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If only we could interbreed Evan Anderson and @voretaq7.

@WesleyDavid lol

@WesleyDavid sad but true, well researched and presented answers usually go un-noticed and unloved, I guess it's a snarky sysadmin thing

@Iain Obscure stuff usually moreso than the more popular products etc

All over really a snarky answer will always do better than the same thing without the snark.

7:10 PM

And with that as motivation, I depart to do things that I can charge for.

ARRGH! <peeve> A switch with all 1Gb ports except for a 10Gb uplink is NOT A 10Gb SWITCH! </peeve>

@Chopper3 serverfault.com/questions/300565/… only 1 VM mentioned

Q: locked out of SSH due to iptables

Haven't we seen this like once a day recently?

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TL:DR I made changes to my iptables config and now SSH is refusing all connections. Can I fix this without contacting my hosting company? Long Version Ok, this is most likely 100% my own fault... In preparation of moving a website to a dedicated server, we got a new hosted machine running C...

Chopper3

balls, misread it soz

If we have we just need to close it as a dupe

7:17 PM

I get more rep from the really easy/dumb questions than anything else :(

@MichaelLowman Welcome to the club.

@MichaelLowman see above well researched ...

I need more snark. Also pictures of cats.

Noooo less snark is required

careers.stackoverflow resources slugging up anyone else's page loads today?

7:22 PM

abp - never see them or teh codez

@Iain Clearly, you do not haz teh codez.

@ChrisS corollary to Iain's Rule: post captioned photo on chat, get a star

@ShaneMadden clearly we're on the same wavelength serverfault.com/questions/300559/…

@Iain Yeah, seriously. That's my upvote on yours :)

7:30 PM

and mine on yours

Looks uneven to me.

I just got another bump

@ChrisS Do we need to modify the answers so they have the same character count?

@ShaneMadden Sorry, meant that one had 2 votes, the other had 1 vote when I looked last. Even though they say almost the same thing.

@ChrisS And the comments pretty well mirror, too

7:33 PM

Equal character counts would be a nice touch.

@ChrisS what criteria do you have (if you bother) for protecting questions ?

Fist time I see a "thank you" or "mee too" answer I protect a Q.

It's only locks out the <15 rep users, so it ain't keeping hardly anyone out.

Ok, that's would work for me. I protected one earlier with a 'me too' and 4 or 5 previously deleted 'me toos'

A: How can I start an X11 session on my headless Fedora 13 server?

Seeing a correct answer below an inferior one is disheartening ;(

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Another option is running GDM over VNC, which will give you a GDM login window over VNC. See Vnc & Gdm

A: How to delete empty subfolders with PowerShell

7:57 PM

Does anyone know what the single quote mark is in this powershell script:

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I would do this in two passes - deleting the old files first and then the empty dirs: Get-ChildItem -recurse | Where {!$_.PSIsContainer -and ` $_.LastWriteTime -lt (get-date).AddDays(-31)} | Remove-Item -whatif Get-ChildItem -recurse | Where {$_.PSIsContainer -and ` @(Get-ChildItem -Lit $_.Full...

{!$_.PSIsContainer -and $_.LastWriteTime -lt (get-date).AddDays(-31)} `

Not showing up in chat because of markdown. >:-(

It's after the -and operator

@MikeyB Eww, xorg hax. Ugly.

@WesleyDavid both occurances too

@WesleyDavid back-tick ("`")= line continuation in PS

@WesleyDavid new line avoidance

2wires1punchdown

Ahh, okay. I was wondering if it was something like that.

Q: cat6 wall connector. 2 wires 1 connector?

8:01 PM

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Do you guys know the best connectors to get for a cat6 configuration? The total cable length is 100FT so its not huge but I have it going strait through with 4 total connectors. I want to wire the middle ones so that they not only give the wall jack to plug into but they also connect the 2 wires ...

cat6 wired

@ShaneMadden I don't understand the question

oh god

he's doing it wrong

he is running the wire isn series

and putting wall plates at certain points

instead of home runs for each jack

He's running two sets of wires back to a single jack too... Dude does not know what's he's doing....

Best advice is to stop now; call a professional; before it gets any worse.

8:19 PM

@ShaneMadden It's not so much a hax... there are X servers out there with the explicit purpose in life of being a VNC target.

wfaulk

Yep. Ran them extensively at my last job

@Zypher 'Oh god' is right. The sudden realization, "No, he couldn't possibly be doing… OH DEAR LORD"

httpː//www.twowiresoneconnector.com/

^ to subvert a meme.

He's trying to wire a multi-drop bus; like a RS422 or RS485 bus. Or TwinAx!

I hate when companies don't have the master e-mail addresses; like webmaster, hostmaster, postmaster...

8:35 PM

i know but do you know how badly those get spammed

it's not even funny

they are easy spam targets though

@Zypher All the domains I operate have them and very rarely get spam...

lucky ... i was postmaster at my last company ... i got 100k spam emails a day

on that address

@ChrisS I have one domain that had it, I had to remove it

All my personal ones also have "abuse", "root", and "bit-bucket" (though the last one I wouldn't know if it got spammed)

99%+ of incoming mail is rejected immediately for the IP being listed in zen.spamhaus.com; that helps a bit.

8:45 PM

reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/jguhj/…

@WesleyDavid That is fairly incredible.

I'd say about 2 out of 3 of home computer "fixes" I do result in the person complaining about $MALWARE I removed.

wfaulk

goddammit!!!!

I keep asking our storage admins about the performance of our RAID and they keep giving me IOPS numbers on individual drives

that's great and all, but it's almost totally irrelevant

grrr

Close enough to 5 for a Friday!

@ChrisS have a good weekend

8:58 PM

Not being harsh here... right?

hiya - nope

That's cool. It did seem kinda... worthless

what's the max rep you can get from editing ?

Maybe 1k? scuffles around on MSO

@Iain I want to say it was 500, but I'm not sure where I saw that.

9:02 PM

It's just idle curiosity - I was way over the limit when they brought it in anyway

A: Edit a question (from other user) and get +2 rep?

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You can get a maximum of +1000 rep from edit suggestions. Each approved edit suggestion increases your reputation by +2. (There are other rules, such as, a given user can only approve so many edits by another user in a day, etc, but these are the important ones.)

I still think it's crazy I can "moderate" (approve/reject) the suggested edits, but only if I come across them when browsing questions. I'm worthy to moderate them, just not be told where they are (until 10k, anyway). Crazy I tell you. Crazy.

@BenPilbrow cheers - your mSO fu is strong

That and close votes too...

@BenPilbrow I believe that's because it's so easy to gain rep on SO that you may not have absorbed the culture before gaining the powers so they don't help you

wait, so I can just increment the number on the end of suggested-edits and approve them?

cool, I can

9:11 PM

@MichaelLowman sneaky

@MichaelLowman ?

@Iain you can just increment the number on suggested edits (i.e suggested-edits/[last one plus one])

ah - that's cool

Wait til you get a 404 and periodically refresh it

now to write an extension that polls for the last number that doesn't give a 404 and add links in a dropdown

9:13 PM

►

Have a kitten

I just find it stupid I can approve/reject it but can't see a list of pending stuff. I do quite a lot of editing, so definitely something that Server Fault (not just me) would benefit from

I have an extension that has stopped working that I'd like fixed, I can't figure out what's not working though :(

Crazy programmers.

@Iain github?

@MichaelLowman userscripts.org/scripts/show/79263

Q: How do 100Mbps, 1Gbps, 2Gbps or 10Gbps network ports affect Website/server performance?

9:19 PM

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(Sorry if this question looks silly.) I see that many popular hosting companies still offer (primarily) a 100mbps network switch - Hostgator and Rackspace are good examples. While very few exist that offer a gigabit uplink connection - mediatemple for example - large companies (like Softlayer, pr...

web-hosting

How come nobody else said "Why is your page 1.5MB" ?

@TomOConnor Efficient!

@TomOConnor I think that guy is having a pissing competition with someone - look at his other questions

he sounds like he wants to justify google sized infrastructure for his blog

Can we close his account as "Not a real account"?

speak nicely to @Chopper3 about that

@TomOConnor how did you find Liverpool last weekend ?

Bill Weiss

what's the term people use for that? roflscale?

9:26 PM

@Iain I had a lovely weekend :3

cool

@Iain Found one terrible restaurant, I was practically on a date, and they sat us at a table with a hen party.

so we left, and went to Jamie's Italian instead.

which was, predictably, amazing.

I can't decide whether London has given me expectations of service that no other city can meet, or this place was just Shite.

Unfortunately he's a tosser of the 1st order

which place ?

Bill Weiss

roflscale.com

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there you go

TessellatingHeckler

approaching 1 hr 40 on phonecall

makes this take the lead as "longest phonecall this week"

worst thing is, it took me 1 hr 30 to learn that the problem isn't even close to fixed and it's probably going to be 2+ hours more

9:34 PM

@TessellatingHeckler wow, who the hell are you on the phone to?

TessellatingHeckler

@BenPilbrow Microsoft support

Oh right. I've never actually experienced them

@WesleyDavid am I the verbose one or the cruel one?

9:50 PM

@voretaq7 You are verbosely cruel.

I'm having a low hanging fruit evening on SF.

@TomOConnor I think we all are. serverfault.com/questions/300619/…

I didn't wanna answer that.. Just wanted to comment snark :P

Q: Access Denied to Group Policy Objects

@TomOConnor Good comment, though :)

" creating an new account with every group membership in the company " /me recoils in horror

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So I've been trying to add a group policy to our servers for the last day or so. After installing the GPMC and creating an new account with every group membership in the company when I right click on any group policy folder and click New I get a group policy message that says Access is denied. ...

windows-server-2003 group-policy

@WesleyDavid excellent

that's what I go for

@TomOConnor yeah... I'm joining the snark patrol.

9:55 PM

I've had a couple of pints.. I can't resist.

@ShaneMadden dude sounds dangerous. "It wasn't working, so I poked the SYSVOL folder with a stick". Yeah... great idea there.

SF Comments are a hjuuuge outlet for my wanton sarcasm

@BenPilbrow "It wasn't working right so I brutally assaulted it with a screwdriver and a soldering iron. Now it's totally fucked. HALP?!"

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@voretaq7 pretty much :'(

I refuse to answer people who clearly have no idea what they're doing. They'll only take my correct advice, fuck it up in their own special way and blame me for the resulting flames.

I use keypairs to SSH into my boxen, but I don't use passwords on the keys.

Because @TomOConnor does not approve passwords, that's why.

9:59 PM

@WesleyDavid If I could flag that chat message as "doing it wrong," I would.

;)

I answer them the same way every time:
"It is clear you have no idea what you're doing, your idea is not merely Bad, it is also Wrong and Dangerous. Seek. Professional. Help."

@ShaneMadden I want to flag it as offensive!

It offends my delicate security sensibilities.

umm.. "our last IT guy was ...special, he created a sysvol folder within the sysvol folder and that folder is shared. Problem? should I unshare that folder?"

@ShaneMadden You should find your last IT guy and finish the lobotomy.

I don't even.. is that possible? The name should already be taken by the real share

@voretaq7 it's on that same question serverfault.com/questions/300623/…

@voretaq7 thenubbyadmin.com/2010/07/16/…

Oh and thenubbyadmin.com/2010/07/23/…

10:02 PM

You know, I wonder if their previous admin worked at my place. My predecessor was also.... special.

@WesleyDavid REMARKABLY secure. Nobody would ever guess that.

similarly I once watched a bunch of people try to guess an NT admin password for hours.
The password was blank.

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@BenPilbrow divine predecessor?

@voretaq7 The second article I linked to is that exact scenario

@WesleyDavid I decoded an md5 password from a legacy system( by googling the hash) and found the answer was 75

Just didn't have enough spirit to use 76, hmm?

heh ok, time to go for the night. Having answered no questions and accrued a whopping 35 rep today. Stupid job interfering with my rep-whoring

laterZ

10:05 PM

@WesleyDavid Even numbers are less secure, obviously

@voretaq7 see ya

Wow. Someone downvoted me. serverfault.com/questions/300606/…

Was it any of you?

Bill Weiss

ha

no, though that's a pretty hacky answer

(well, no, it wasn't me)

@BillWeiss Works, though.. and leaves me free to solve real problems.

Which is the important thing. nods

Meh, don't sweat it. People are dumb and downvote (and upvote for that matter) totally random stuff which probably doesn't deserve it

@BenPilbrow People are stupid. London has proven this very clearly.

10:08 PM

"Don't like Cheetahs. Downvote."

"Dude's name is Tom. Downvote."

@TomOConnor Not every solution needs to be elegant - you've got my upvote on there ;)

Maybe it was one of the Aussies - they're upside down... right? So what's an upvote for them is a downvote for us :-)

@TomOConnor and backhanded comments about network manager certainly don't hurt

@WesleyDavid Or Kittens. >.>

womble

@TomOConnor You mean apart from the fact that you're talking about a different file to the one the questioner was referring to?

10:12 PM

@womble Er.. Oops. Either way.. Same rules apply.

"TEH KITTEH!! UPBOATS!"

set it, make it immutable, and forget about it.

Does dnsmasq grab a copy of the real resolv.conf file before it's populated? Doesn't make a lot of sense chilling in /var/run if it's an actual config file

@ShaneMadden No, there's a whole bunch of config in /etc/resolvconf.d that contains the stuff to put in it

apparently so packages can insert shit into it

but i don't approve.

it's a fecking server.

leave my fucking configs alone, and don't second guess me.

lol

sounds like the resolvconf scripts aren't working right, in any case

Brokenhaze: There is No Such Thing as Too Complex

10:35 PM

@ShaneMadden they rarely do.

Stack Exchange

11:15 PM

posted on August 12, 2011 by George Beech

This is a crazy idea, but it’s true there really is no such thing as too complex in an IT environment. If you take a moment to think about it, everything we do is incredibly complex. Really, just take a moment to think about it. There is not one thing that you do as a [...]

womble

11:47 PM

@TomOConnor Yeah, well, you kinda lost the war on that one when you installed NetworkManager in the first place...

@Zypher The comment on your "About Me" page made me lul.

haha yea