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KronoS
KronoS
00:00
l8rs @Linker3000
Linker3000
Linker3000
Gnite!
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
00:29
@SimonSheehan: dog. ;p the little golden haired scoundrel is mine. ;p
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
@JourneymanGeek ah okay, saw some other dogs in there and thought they were yours too ;p
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@SimonSheehan: oh, its at the dog park. we bring him every week ;p
globalnerdy.com/2011/07/20/… chuckles
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Haha, funny.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
01:17
holy crap
arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/07/… SSD.. RAID 0?
on one hand, FAST. on the other, living dangerously much? ;p
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
01:55
@JourneymanGeek VERY fast o.o but i feel like the failure rate just increased.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
lol
if either drive goes, everything goes ;p
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
02:13
Not the greatest idea. Fast but...
Keep it to the OS only ;)
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
eh
and backup regularly ;)
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
@JourneymanGeek more like tape backup all day ;)
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
lol
well, i tend to favour weekly or monthly right now ;p
unless i could get my zfs storage pod snuck in ;p
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
I only backup the essentials - large game files, documents that are needed. Except my external HDD is dying a bit.
Might be time for something nice and new. Before it does finally choke and die
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
The unfortunate thing about backups is that most people don't do them (even when they've been told that they should, and they understand the risks [of full data loss] of not having any backups at all).
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
02:23
Im horrible for updating and backing up :/
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
i backup everything ;p
my external drive died tho
and i tend to have stuff like movies and audio on external or backup drives anyway, so its only the system
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
I like to make snapshot image backups of my hard drives. I use this tool, which is great for this: drivesnapshot.de
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
I have a seagate external drive - i cringe every time i plug it in, living in fear of it dying and losing a LOT of video and files.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@SimonSheehan: everyone is, until crap happens
@SimonSheehan: i have two copies of my music, for starters ;p
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
Simon: Does that hard drive contain your only copies of certain data?
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
02:25
@JourneymanGeek Yes but i NEED to keep these things - redownloading is NOT an option. I have 3 copies of my music - desktop, laptop, external. I have a 60GB download cap each month so i CANNOT lose things
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@SimonSheehan: but imaging those things with the system drive is wasteful
so, i image the system drive, and keep a simple backup up those files in multiple locations
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
@JourneymanGeek Well i access them on both PC's, so i need multiple copies. The backup is from me transferring betwen PCs.
ah.
I see what you mean
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
for example, the 'master' copy of my music is on the drive i use to backup my laptop
the backup is on the drive i use to backup the desktop
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
I see. Serious backup
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
eh, redownloading is a pain. Reripping is a pain and half
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
02:27
(I find this chat confusing because names seem to keep changing; sometimes it reads "Simon" and other times it's Simon Sheehan;" also, there's "Journeyma" vs. "Journeyman Geek.")
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
well, there's also the non flac copy of my music ;p
@RandolfRichardson: i use the autocomplete ;p
also, the proper way to refer to me is 'geek'. journeyman is a description, not a name XD
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
@JourneymanGeek I've gone over my limit every month for 2 years - upgrading to a 125GB limit soon shall be nice :D
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
we don't have limits here
thank god for civilised internet ;p
how much is your limit?
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Lucky you. Theres nothing unmetered in my area, sadly, so were all forced into this :P
60GB per month
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
there's nothing metered in my area ;p
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
02:29
the company that offers unlimited is in the next town...but not mine D:
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
or country (other than PAYG)
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
@SimonSheehan I hosted a web site temporarily at my home once, and it got slash-dotted during that time. I bought a second cable modem account to keep my ISP happy. Everything's at co-location centres normally.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
but i think 'redownloading' lost data is.. inefficient ;p
XDXD
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Heh. In canada the current government wants to start usage-based-billing, which means we pay for what we download. Theres a HUGE protest on it
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
i've once downloaded 4gb of data off someone in aust tho
@SimonSheehan: its cause your ISPs don't want to invest in infrasctructure. they'd rather just charge more
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
02:30
@JourneymanGeek Welcome to Canada.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
here we have what.. three independant sets of infrasctructure owned by 3 different companies ;p
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
@SimonSheehan Yeah, I know. To me it's not a big deal at all because in dealing with co-location centres this has already been happening for ages. For home use, on the other hand, I'm only okay with it if they're charging for usage that goes above the existing limits (and the customer has explicitly concented to this prior to any such billing occurring).
I live in Canada.
I am Canadian.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
singtel has an ADSL network, Starhub has cable, and the fiber optics... is owned by someone else
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
@RandolfRichardson Where do you live?
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
Beautiful British Columbia.
Where are you?
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
02:31
@RandolfRichardson Ah, im in Ontario. The federal conservatives are supporting Usage based billing though :/
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
The general feeling here in the West is that the federal politicians rarely have any clue about what people need and want.
I suppose that's not much different from most countries.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@RandolfRichardson: eh, the colo we were looking at didn't
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Its unfortunate. I feel like the government in Canada is really falling apart though. The provincial conservatives of ontario are led by tim hudak, and his plan is to scrap all green energy projects and bring back "dollar beer days"
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
pity that project didn't work out ;p
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
@SimonSheehan Woah! He wants to scrap environmentally-friendly programs? That's definitely a "do or die move" for his career.
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
02:34
@RandolfRichardson The biggest concern for me is that hes currently winning in public opinion polls. Thats scary.
@RandolfRichardson have you heard about the scam with Bev Oda?
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
@SimonSheehan The public opinion polls are sometimes way WAY off though. To me, it's the actual plebiscite to complete the election that matters.
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
(I can't even vote and ive got such a big opinion)
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
@SimonSheehan No. What happened this time?
(Dinner's ready. I have to go very VERY soon.)
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
@RandolfRichardson she was found to have lied in parliament and sent us into an election. And then she got reelected and the conservatives got a majority. shes the rep for my riding.
ill be back momentarily also
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@SimonSheehan: we haven't had an election in my area in 20 years ;p
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
02:38
@SimonSheehan She lied? Ha. Don't they all? I can only remember Joe Clark not lying (and the liars all ran him out of office because they didn't want him to clean house).
@JourneymanGeek Well, don't get apathetic. Keep on voting for the ones who have never been elected because there's still hope for them not lying. =)
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
i'd vote if i coulf!
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
@JourneymanGeek Restricted by age?
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
i hope to get to vote for the president of singapore, assuming they don't disqualify everyone but the government supported candidate
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
@JourneymanGeek I wish our government would bring in caning, and start with using it on the Stanley Cup rioters.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@RandolfRichardson: walkover for the last 20 years. this year, opposition candidates were disallowed for being 30 seconds late for nomination - which happens over 2 hours
Randolf Richardson
Randolf Richardson
02:40
@JourneymanGeek Well, if those are the official rules, then those politicians need to make sure they're early. Otherwise if there really is an abuse of power going on, then that's a shame.
(I have to go for dinner. I'll try to come back later. Bye folks, it was nice chatting with you!)
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Cya later @Randolf!
@Journeyman ouch. Doesn't sound very good to me
They are considering changing the voting age to 16 here though
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
02:59
Night time and it's still feeling like 41 degrees. Thank goodness for AC
Linux kernel 3.0 was pushed 5 minutes ago
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
ooh
i should put off recompiling my gentoo kernel till its supported there then ;p
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
@Journeyman hehe. Linus posted before his sites even updates ><
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
;p
google plus? ;p
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Yep. Such a handy site!
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
04:00
Finally going to sleep early - night everyone
 
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Clippy
Clippy
05:10
Super User Blog: A Super User’s Complete Guide to Building an HTPC: Planning and Purchasing
Posted by KronoS on July 22nd, 2011

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HTPC’s can take care of ALL you media needs which can even ultimately either replace or add to your current media experiences:

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Sathya
Sathya
07:19
hi @ThomasMcDonald
user30
mornin'
Sathya
Sathya
how's Lion
 
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user30
08:52
@Sathya It's pretty good, a bit disappointed with Chrome not fully working without me changing stuff, full screen terminal is surprisingly useful
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
10:33
Morning everyone
 
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bckbck
bckbck
11:56
@SimonSheehan morning
it's the evening over here
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
12:37
lo
 
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DMA57361
DMA57361
13:47
afternoon all
admintech
admintech
13:59
Afternoon
Linker3000
Linker3000
14:13
I'M CALM..I'M CALM..I'M CALM..I'M CALM.. Honest...!
DMA57361
DMA57361
@Linker3000 ?
Linker3000
Linker3000
Just picking up the pieces of a major service outage on our core VMware server!!!
DMA57361
DMA57361
ah :/
Linker3000
Linker3000
The disk controller's flash backed cache failed and took our storage array offline!
DMA57361
DMA57361
oh lovely
Linker3000
Linker3000
14:14
I replaced the cache module (everyone keeps a spare, don't they!!), but it's a bit unnerving when the array controller then says "erm, what array?"
DMA57361
DMA57361
only a bit unnerving?
Linker3000
Linker3000
Kinda working now - all VMs running but the big one managing all our data has spent the last 2 hours in chkdsk and it's still going....
@DMA57361 yeah, man of steel!!!
Well, we DO have backups...
DMA57361
DMA57361
@Linker3000 I'd hope so, still it's never fun having to use them
Linker3000
Linker3000
@DMA57361 Agreed.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
14:28
@Linker3000: if you didn't i'd suggest checking into the nice hotel with padded rooms.
Linker3000
Linker3000
15:09
@JourneymanGeek I'd be down the pub, on the phone looking for a new job
Sathya
Sathya
15:33
@Linker3000 you're a pure Windows guy?
from your profile I see not
HackToHell
HackToHell
15:45
Hello guys .. Can i prevent my xp password from being removed/changed by another Administrator account ?
Sathya
Sathya
no
HackToHell
HackToHell
so what is the account types can change passwords ?
Sathya
Sathya
all accounts with Admin privs
HackToHell
HackToHell
so less than Admin privs like Backup Operators means they can't change password ?
Darth Android
Darth Android
16:00
If they can back up the entire system (or otherwise get access to the system password files), it would be trivial for them to find your password hash and crack it.
In fact, anyone that can boot the system off of a CD drive can reset your password, or crack it.
usually in less than 5 minutes for either scenario, including the time it takes to boot the CD.
HackToHell
HackToHell
@DarthAndroid they are not gonna do that :) and I do know how easy it is to do it via OphCrack
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Sounds very secure
Darth Android
Darth Android
Welcome to unsalted passwords.
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Indeed. Where is my hashing!
Darth Android
Darth Android
(which if you know the salts for a linux system, you can build up a rainbow table and just as easily crack linux passwords )
so, yes, computers without BIOS passwords or with user-inserted boot media available are very secure :)
</sarcasm>
HackToHell
HackToHell
16:05
@DarthAndroid i will remove the HDD !!!
the BEST way is to TrueCrypt it
Darth Android
Darth Android
@HackToHell The simple matter is if you don't trust someone not to reset your password, then they should not be anything above a standard user, and should not be able to physically access the system.
DMA57361
DMA57361
@SimonSheehan the problem here is the pw's are hashed unsalted, so you do get hashing just the type that there's handy tables for
HackToHell
HackToHell
@DarthAndroid that's kinda impossible (physical access)
Darth Android
Darth Android
Otherwise it's a moot point.
Then it doesn't matter what you set in the system.
Anyone that has physical access to the system and wants to be an administrator can (quite easily) make themselves an administrator.
You have a people issue, not a computer issue, and computers can't really solve people issues.
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
@DMA I'm not much of a programmer or administrator, so it makes little sense to me ;)
Darth Android
Darth Android
16:10
@SimonSheehan Since all the hashes are the same for all windows computers (I.e., the hash for "password" on my computer is the same as the hash for "password" on your computer), I can simply build up a massive table of every possible hash and then look up your hash to find a password that will work for your user.
"Salting" is a method that makes the hash for "password" on my system different from the hash for "password" on your system
And properly blocks that type of attack (a Rainbow Table attack. )
Linux uses salted passwords, but windows does not.
HackToHell
HackToHell
16:25
Antone here good at video effects ? How can I do this to my video ? youtube.com/watch?v=C9JIEVzsK-s
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
@Darth Typical windows :p
Sathya
Sathya
stupid question: If I need my Linux box to receive files via ftp, I don't need to run a ftp daemon on it, do I?
HackToHell
HackToHell
@Sathya no .. ff will do it
or wget
DMA57361
DMA57361
@Sathya receive implies you want to send files to it from elsewhere?
Sathya
Sathya
@DMA57361 yes.
DMA57361
DMA57361
16:36
if so I think you probably will need the server up and running because it handles comms in both directions
Sathya
Sathya
@HackToHell I don't think you understood my point, or I wasn't clear enough
HackToHell
HackToHell
@Sathya i did not understand you .. and do not yet
Sathya
Sathya
@DMA57361 Hmmm
worth asking a question, eh?
DMA57361
DMA57361
sure, why not
but if the server isn't up and listening for FTP connections, how are you going to connect to then send a file?
not counting doing anything interesting with SSH or whatever
Sathya
Sathya
that's what has me wondering.
@DMA57361 ftr, I do have a ssh connection
DMA57361
DMA57361
16:39
well then you could use that, but then you're not really sending files by FTP
well, it's called SFTP isn't it, so maybe that counts?
:)
Sathya
Sathya
perspective/background: I'm in the middle of a transition from a fully managed shared webhost to unmanaged VPS
so everything is being configured by me
DMA57361
DMA57361
ah, fun times
Sathya
Sathya
my Linux desktop skills are on par with Windows desktop skills, but my server skills are an absolute zero
so I've got nginx, mysql, php, wordpress installed
next step would be configuring wordpress
first step is plugin install
wordpress has a really neat search-click-install feature, where it'll do the installation
previously, my webhost had provided me all the details that I need - ftp username, password & port.
DMA57361
DMA57361
ah right
Sathya
Sathya
now when it comes to the VPS - I'm confused - I presumed that ftp daemon is responsible for ftp comms, directory management & transferring files - I have no clue whether it accepts file-receive requests
I'm not really sure what to Google either :|
DMA57361
DMA57361
16:45
shrug
my experience is pretty limited; mostly using WinSCP to send/pull files via SSH to the Linux cluster at Uni and local VMs
Sathya
Sathya
ok, thanks @DMA
@DMA
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Q: Do I need a ftp server daemon to be running on my Linux system to receive files via FTP?

SathyaDo I need to have a ftp server / daemon on my Linux box so that I can receive files? A use case of a system "receiving" files over FTP would be, for example, the way WordPress plugins are installed via 1-click where it transfers the files from the WordPress plugin repository to my local Linux bo...

linux debian ftp
(cc: @Linker3000 @JourneymanGeek too :p )
whattay suggested edit
DMA57361
DMA57361
@Sathya O_o oh dear
Sathya
Sathya
17:00
man, JohnT answered it in a minute T_T
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
That's the first time I've ever seen JohnT :o
DMA57361
DMA57361
@Sathya well, he has that much rep for a reason...
Sathya
Sathya
heh, true
@SimonSheehan :O
DMA57361
DMA57361
although he's not been around this week it seems, looking at his activity
Sathya
Sathya
(btw, he's a fellow Canadian, say Hi! :P ) @SimonSheehan
yeah, he's been off the site for a bit
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
17:02
Haha. Neat. I seem to only really know the people in chat, others just sort of slip by me
DMA57361
DMA57361
@SimonSheehan I know the feeling, chat really helps make people memorable
@Sathya uuhhhh, and just deleted his answer, and undeleted it again O_o
Sathya
Sathya
say wha.
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
@DMA indeed it does. Let's you really get involved more outside of just answering questions
Sathya
Sathya
help me, I'm confused :\
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A: Do I need a ftp server daemon to be running on my Linux system to receive files via FTP?

Jukka HaavNo. But you need to have some sort of FTP server running if you wish to receive files via FTP, without initiating the FTP connection yourself.

Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
I'm getting more confused too...
DMA57361
DMA57361
17:05
I think the point is, if you want to send a file to the machine from afair it'll need an FTP server running, but if you log into the box directly you could tell it to download it itself (and so, aren't really "sending" anything)
Sathya
Sathya
seems more people are confused ;p
(hi @KronoS! how's holidays?)
. or the heatwave for that matter
KronoS
KronoS
@Sathya Hey! Well actually it's cooling down where I'm at.. Monsoons!
Sathya
Sathya
@KronoS ORLY? Nice!
KronoS
KronoS
Ya it has been... only prob is that these storms can be pretty nasty at times...
But it's great to watch at times as well
@Sathya that answer is just plain confusing
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Be back in a bit, my mom made a good smelling sandwich for lunch
Sathya
Sathya
17:13
sweet
it's monsoons in my hometown as well
KronoS
KronoS
I love monsoons...
esp in an area where there is so little rain/moisture
Sathya
Sathya
:)
KronoS
KronoS
Really looking forward to this:
tucson.startupweekend.org
BTW @Sathya I was able to get the data 'dump' pulled up into a MYSQL server... but I can't navigate the data very easiliy
DMA57361
DMA57361
@KronoS what you using to navigate it?.
KronoS
KronoS
@DMA57361 MySQL workbench
DMA57361
DMA57361
17:27
ah ok, not sure if there's anything much better that's free
(or not free, for that matter...)
(because I don't know, rather than one not actually existing, I should point out)
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
So @Sathya you want to write a wordpress plugin? Is that the starting point?
Sathya
Sathya
@jcolebrand the starting point is I'm about to shift from a shared host to a VPS
49 mins ago, by Sathya
perspective/background: I'm in the middle of a transition from a fully managed shared webhost to unmanaged VPS
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
So what is the use case of FTP in this instance?
KronoS
KronoS
@DMA57361 ya I didn't think so... and the prob is more likely my super noobiness in this area
Sathya
Sathya
47 mins ago, by Sathya
wordpress has a really neat search-click-install feature, where it'll do the installation
KronoS
KronoS
17:30
But there's supposed to be some documents in the database that I can't seem to find....
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
@Sathya yeah, hence my confusion about the role WP plays here
Sathya
Sathya
user image
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
Are you focusing on documents or wordpress?
Sathya
Sathya
WordPress.
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
Are you using wordpress or authoring plugins for wordpress?
Sathya
Sathya
17:31
end user, not a developer
you have published a plugin on wordpress' plugins repo
I want to install it
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
And was that page above on the wordpress master server or on your local installed copy of wordpress?
Sathya
Sathya
@jcolebrand local install.
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
That's why I'm confused. The local server doesn't need an FTP connection to retrieve files
Sathya
Sathya
which is my confusion as well, and hence the question.
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
If that were being run from a central wordpress repo, then I would understand it
because then they would be pushing to you (odd but works)
Sathya
Sathya
17:34
JohnT says otherwise:
> Yes, there needs to be some type of server-side software listening on port 21 to accept the inbound connection and process the data. Not necessarily a daemon, but there must be some type of software to accept the connection.
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
Yes, but why
that makes me nervous
any plugins installed locally from the internet do not need you to have a local FTP server running
I presume you never got a chance to use FTP before the advent of Web2.0 then?
Sathya
Sathya
nope, never.
(I started using the Internet regularly only in 2007)
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
So the FTP server is an app, much like a HTTP server, that listens for incoming requests on a given port (nominally 21) and is one of the "core" web services that most people associate with servers
the others besides FTP being HTTP and SSH
So you have FTP on 21, SSH on 22, HTTP on 80
In every case you have a daemon of some sort listening on that port
the HTTP daemon is usually Apache ;)
early incarnations had FTPd but more advanced packages came up. As someone said, check the repos for what you want to use.
FTP is usually configured (much like HTTP) to have a certain directory tree that is able to be written/read to/from, but anything not in that "sandbox" cannot be seen or accessed.
So it has to be configured beforehand. You have to specify "where" (the folders/directories/paths), "who" (usually local user accounts, sometimes driven off a database so as not to "poison" the local user db), "when" (all good servers have the ability to restrict access), and sometimes "what" but not usually. Also which paths have read and which are read-write
So this isn't as simple as installing apache2, where you can pretty much install it, start the service and look to /var/http/www for the path to put files
Has that been too basic or has it given you a grasp of the underlying bits?
Also, consider this:
putty is a SSHd client
Chrome is an HTTPd client
Sathya
Sathya
oh I'm aware of the ones you mentioned above
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
so you need an FTP client to access the FTPd service
I just wanted to make sure you understood all the basics.
Sathya
Sathya
17:40
(I do appreciate the explanation though :))
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
That screenshot above indicates that you need to install a FTPd on your box of some variety.
And that you most likely need to setup a FTP user, to sanitize who does what
Sathya
Sathya
indeed.
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
It just doesn't make any sense to me
So you need: FTPd software, FTP user, FTP paths
Sathya
Sathya
which is what's screwing my understanding - I thought WordPress would act as a FTP client because it is requesting a file? If so why would it need the ftp details of the webserver?
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
Yeah, but that's not how I read your question
Because that's specific to the WordPress app
Sathya
Sathya
17:43
@jcolebrand what was your interpretation?
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
the answer to the question "do I need an FTPd to use an ftp client" is no. Just like you don't have to host HTTPd (apache, IIS) to use Chrome (or mobile safari?)
Sathya
Sathya
Right, though I can see why you (and others) interpreted it that way
thanks, @jcole
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
Aye. Lemme know what you do find in the end
I'm curious if this would be well placed to be asked at WP.se
Sathya
Sathya
Yep, I will.
Hmm,
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
wordpress.stackexchange.com/faq ->
> WordPress - Stack Exchange is for WordPress developers and administrators.
Sathya
Sathya
17:48
wonder if the ideal question for WP.se would like Why does WP require a ftp server to be running to transfer files?
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
Because the page you showed me above is for the administration of wordpress, I think the question is valid there
@Sathya aye, that
And show the screenshot and indicate that you're confused on the topic
woohoo collaboration for answers ;)
Sathya
Sathya
hehe :) Love Stack Exchange for this.
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Oh wow we've got an entire wordpress site. Very cool!
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
lol, welcome to the fold ;)
Ooooh @Sathya so the other day @jzy was asking Brent Ozar and some others about how to style for a database site ... :D
We're up to three excellents on A51
Sathya
Sathya
oh my, that's awesome. Seems like DBA's getting ready
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
17:55
I hope so
we are still a little low on asking new Qs, but that's gone up too
Brent Ozar found out I was one of the mods on dba and followed me on twitter ;)
Sathya
Sathya
sweet.
I dropped by DBA /users page the other
and I saw a "new" user is on the runaway in terms of rep
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
ok, closing this chat and going back to the tav ;) ttyl
Sathya
Sathya
ttyl, @jcolebrand.
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Well that was interesting.
@Sathya DBA?
Sathya
Sathya
@SimonSheehan dba.stackexchange.com
'was a SE that I was really interested in, but then lost interest mainly because of change in scope
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
18:11
Ah okay.
Sathya
Sathya
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Q: Why is Area 51 proposal for Database renamed to Database Administrators ?

SathyaOne of the proposals I had committed to, Database is now known as Database Administrators. Why is this so ? Now I fear that the Stack Exchange site is catered more towards Database Administrators than Database Professionals as to which I had committed. (yes, there is a huge difference between da...

discussion area51 site-proposal
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Unfortunate, then. I should get more involved with Area 51
Sathya
Sathya
well after that I've stayed away
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Well, I just found out i have a fever. Lovely.
Sathya
Sathya
ouch.
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
18:23
Well i felt funny all morning, and checked my temperature earlier..only now its up. Odd.
oh well. Doesnt stop me from using a computer :D
@Sathya gotten that wordpress working yet?
Sathya
Sathya
yep
turns out permissions
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Great.
Sathya
Sathya
indeed :)
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
18:45
Hit a Flag weight 400, very proud of that.
Darth Android
Darth Android
18:55
Does FW just +1 for every valid flag?
DMA57361
DMA57361
@DarthAndroid you get +10 for a valid flag, -10 for an invalid
once you reach 500, the +'s reduce in value with 750 being the asymptotic target
Darth Android
Darth Android
Ah, cool.
DMA57361
DMA57361
you get the Deputy bagde at 500 as well
Darth Android
Darth Android
Aye, why I was interested. Wanting to know if that was 500 flags or some smaller value.
Now the question is figuring out what my flagweight is now
DMA57361
DMA57361
it's on your profile page
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
19:02
@DarthAndroid yours is 130 ;)
Darth Android
Darth Android
So it is on my profile page.
I wonder what else is here that I've missed.
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
@DMA57361 Asymptotic? I could not find a good definition of the word.
DMA57361
DMA57361
it means it'll never surpass 750
the value will tend to 750 with infinite valid flags
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Ah, I see.
DMA57361
DMA57361
it's a maths term
so if you have 500, you'll get 10 for a flag, but at 740 you'll get less than 1
Sathya
Sathya
19:13
forget 740, it took me 30 flags to reach from 680 to 687
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
19:33
@Sathya I suppose you don't need to flag things anymore though? Considering you are a moderator
Sathya
Sathya
@SimonSheehan yeah, I was talking about SO
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Ah okay
Sathya
Sathya
@SimonSheehan can you check kurast.sathyabh.at and see if there are major issues that you can see?
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
20:20
@Sathya sorry it took so long to respond, was asleep - looks good to me though!
Sathya
Sathya
@SimonSheehan no worries, thanks!
will finish off plugins installation and then switch to it
anyhowm i'm off. 2am here!
Simon Sheehan
Simon Sheehan
Cya later!
Sathya
Sathya
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Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
20:54
hm
my aircon froze up again

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